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GUILLEN CLASS BATTLESHIP
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OVERVIEW: This is IDF's 1st super battleship. It is primarily designed for roles in bombardment of ground targets. It is the 1st IDF trimarian hulled ship to be commissioned for combat, 1st ship with guns more than 20 inches, and 1st to have electro thermal naval rail-guns. It has a good sized hangar that has quad elevators in it leading to a hangar deck with helos and VTOL fighters. It can fight other superbattleships and crush opposition on the ground. THis is a cheaper version of the Doujin. It is slightly less capable, it does lack ASW capabilities, but that is because Battleships aren't meant for it and that is why you have escorts, that's because at IDF shipyards we provide what you need, not the pricey extras that line our pockets like Doujin does.

main stats
length: 2,756 feet
max beam: 212 feet on main hull, total with trimarian hull is 512 feet
draught: 82 feet
displacement: 1,059,500 tons
powerplant: 7 shafts, 12 GE B5Y/B4J nuclear pressurized water reactors; 1,415,500 shp.
speed: 27.3 knots (upgrades being researched)
range: 24 years fuel for reactors
steering: 2 rudders and 4 of 7 screws are azipod; 2 sets of bow and aft thrusters
complement: 6,191 men plus 1,000 marines

Armaments

GUNS
18 x 30 in electro-thermal Naval (on 2 penta-turrets forward and 2 aft quad turrets
16 x 5 in rail guns guns on 8 double-turrets
38x 20mm Vulcan phalanx II CIWS

MISSILES
342 VLS cells in 2 aft groups (put what you want in)
4 ESSMs can be put in a single cell, all other missiles need their own cell
12 RAM (rolling-airframe missile) boxes with 10 SAM missiles each

ARMOR

Main side belt: 22.5 inches at 17 degree incline
Main deck armor: 5.25 inches
2nd deck armor: 11,5 inches
splinter deck armor 3.75 inches
turret faceplate 32.25 inches
turret side 18.75 inches
superstructure 26.75 inches

Survivability is improved with the major components are in the main hull and protected by the secondary hulls and at least 45 feet away from a contact area on the main hull, but the secondary hull must be taken out 1st to get there. There are layers of armor provided by the 3 hulls. This ship can take a pounding and live. The crew quarters and storage areas (minus magazines) are more exposed in the secondary hulls along with other less important parts.

AIRCRAFT
4 elevators under deck hangar structure lead to spacious hangar deck where 52 helos or VTOL planes such as harriers or F-35C JSFs are stored.

PRICE = $120 BILLION
build time is 14 NS years. We have set up over 100 slips over the last 3 decades while this ship was being designed (check in my main IDF shipyard thread to see the expansion notes made in early June). They are build on the Sinai Penninsula yards (there is one in the NOrth on the Med and a Southern one on the Red Sea). This ship will be the life of the IDF economy as they are sold.

I hope this is more acceptable to the critics, I see a Trimarian adds stability to the ship when the guns are fired and added it, excuse the MS Paint as my skills are limited

I would like to purchase one for the Armed Republic of Scoyle

-----Money Wired Upon Confirmation-----

More then 500 billion has been saved up

I would like to purchase one for the Armed Republic of Scoyle

-----Money Wired Upon Confirmation-----

More then 500 billion has been saved up
confirmed, it will take a while to build though, but is worth it

eeet goes too fast! (for being screw driven at least) Also, I would like to note that nothing comes near the Doujin in regards to survivability, useability, offensive capabilities, and completeness/quality.

eeet goes too fast! (for being screw driven at least) Also, I would like to note that nothing comes near the Doujin in regards to survivability, useability, offensive capabilities, and completeness/quality.
it isn't a godmodd, the speed is OK since this is trimarian. If you wish I may cut it down a few knots. The capability is down as I have something like 2 less guns, big deal, it may have less planes and secondary weapons, but it is half the price. With 2 of these you can do in the Doujin. My ship is quality. The capabilities it lacks are ASW, but you added that to make it look better, no one buys a BB for that, they buy it for guns. that is why you have escort DDGs and FFGs, they do the ASW work. Besides, the choppers can do ASW work if needed. I know it isn't as good as a Doujin, but it is cheaper and does the job for less.

Hmm... I have been approved to spend 425 Billion, Which is 25 Billion less than required to buy 3, but maybe a discount is in order if 3 were to be bought? :cool: :rolleyes: :p

I was half expecting Doujin to tell me it was a godmodd, but I guess there was no reason to fear.

*waits for bashing of shitty MS Paint job*

Hmm... I have been approved to spend 425 Billion, Which is 25 Billion less than required to buy 3, but maybe a discount is in order if 3 were to be bought? :cool: :rolleyes: :p
Here is the beauty, I can have you pay in installments over the 14 years it takes to build. That way you can spread it over as your budget increases and not go bankrupt.

it isn't a godmodd, the speed is OK since this is trimarian. If you wish I may cut it down a few knots. The capability is down as I have something like 2 less guns, big deal, it may have less planes and secondary weapons, but it is half the price. With 2 of these you can do in the Doujin. My ship is quality. The capabilities it lacks are ASW, but you added that to make it look better, no one buys a BB for that, they buy it for guns. that is why you have escort DDGs and FFGs, they do the ASW work. Besides, the choppers can do ASW work if needed. I know it isn't as good as a Doujin, but it is cheaper and does the job for less.

Sorry, but I can honestly say one Doujin can take on two of your Guillens, and I'll wager 500 billion dollars on that ;) Trimaran cuts drag down, yes, but your propulsion system slows it significantly. Screws? Please.

Sorry, but I can honestly say one Doujin can take on two of your Guillens, and I'll wager 500 billion dollars on that ;)
I would love to see this wager come out. Maybe we can test this one day in a simulated battle (don't want any of us to damage our ships for real here). Up for it another time? When you want just ask. Don't think I've come up with tactics or trained my crews enough yet at this point though.

If we do the attack, I need some escort ships as they are my main radar screen ships and ASW

I would love to see this wager come out. Maybe we can test this one day in a simulated battle (don't want any of us to damage our ships for real here). Up for it another time? When you want just ask. Don't think I've come up with tactics or trained my crews enough yet at this point though.

If we do the attack, I need some escort ships as they are my main radar screen ships and ASW

Why not just a full fleet battle? ;)

It'll put a dent in my economy, but I'll buy it anyway. Please telegram me to confirm order.
----money wired----

tokugawa

Why not just a full fleet battle? ;)
because your escort ships would cream mine, I don't match you there, but I claim that this ship can match your if I have 2 of them (same price for 2 of mine as 1 of yours). If I had your escort ships I would say I would win. My escort ships are **** compared to yours. I mean, I've got Burke class DDGs

It'll put a dent in my economy, but I'll buy it anyway. Please telegram me to confirm order.
----money wired----

tokugawa
confirmed

please contact me if possible

want 2 buy a whole fleet to help take over futer regions

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More then 500,000 billion has been saved up

please contact me if possible

want 2 buy a whole fleet to help take over futer regions

-----Money Wired Upon Confirmation-----

More then 500,000 billion has been saved up
confirmed

So, does this take the place of your earlier Guillen?

So, does this take the place of your earlier Guillen?
It's a redesign of the ship. Better and larger

We can do a duke out, my Doujin versus two of your Guillen - however, you get no escort ships period :) Only what you have on the Average Guillen :)

which is better?

I'm up to it, tonight I'm too tired, tomorrow I'm going to the Cell to see Buehrle(mon) kill Brad Radke and the Twins with a Sox offense minus Maggs :( and Frank. The Sox will still win as Buehrle can shut the twinkies down and el Caballo will single handedly beat them with the longball along with Paulie and Jose.

How about a duel Tuesday?

which is better?
doujin is better, but mine is half the price and with 2 of them will outgun the Doujin

-----------------Wire Of 100 Billion Has Been Made-----------------

When can I Expect To Recieve The 1st Ship? They Will Accompany my 30 Izrains Very Well... Also, Is It already crewed?

doujin is better, but mine is half the price and with 2 of them will outgun the Doujin

Also, Accompanied With Smaller Ships, Like My Izrain, They Could Very Well Take Out A Fleet of Doujins.

OOc: Sorry For Double Post, hah

-----------------Wire Of 100 Billion Has Been Made-----------------

When can I Expect To Recieve The 1st Ship? They Will Accompany my 30 Izrains Very Well... Also, Is It already crewed?
it will take 14 ns years to build. You have to get a crew for it, but we can help in training

That was our main worry, a man could get lost in that behemoth...

That was our main worry, a man could get lost in that behemoth...
It isn't easy to get lost once you're trained. It will also familiarize them with the heavy rail guns. the VTOL planes like the F-35 JSFs add good capabilities here

Aegir Fleet (Go me for copying a name!)
5 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub[In actuality, there are more than 15 submarines:this is OOC though])
10 Tigershark Class AOE
10 River CLass AOE
10 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
25 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
30 Broadsword Class Frigates
14 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship

Aegir Fleet (Go me for copying a name!)
5 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub[In actuality, there are more than 15 submarines:this is OOC though])
10 Tigershark Class AOE
10 River CLass AOE
10 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
25 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
30 Broadsword Class Frigates
14 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship
I could never afford that without giving up my land forces which are necessary, you gave them up though.

Oh they are rail guns? You do realize that rail guns fire slugs, and not shells? Rail guns for ships = bad idea :) And it wouldn't be "electro thermal rail gun" it would just be "rail gun".

Oh they are rail guns? You do realize that rail guns fire slugs, and not shells? Rail guns for ships = bad idea :) And it wouldn't be "electro thermal rail gun" it would just be "rail gun".
I'll change that to electro-thermal gun

I could never afford that without giving up my land forces which are necessary, you gave them up though.

This isn't total fleet, I hope you know that.

Aegir Fleet (Go me for copying a name!)
5 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub)
10 Tigershark Class AOE
10 River CLass AOE
10 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
25 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
30 Broadsword Class Frigates
14 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship

4x Assault Fleet
3 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub)
10 Tigershark Class AOE
7 River CLass AOE
7 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
20 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
20 Broadsword Class Frigates
7 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship

35 battlefleets, somewhere along 25 ships per battlefleet

And I only sacrificed my ground / air forces because I have nations who are doing land and air for me.

This isn't total fleet, I hope you know that.

Aegir Fleet (Go me for copying a name!)
5 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub)
10 Tigershark Class AOE
10 River CLass AOE
10 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
25 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
30 Broadsword Class Frigates
14 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship

4x Assault Fleet
Aegir Fleet (Go me for copying a name!)
3 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
1 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
4 Leviathon Class Battleships
5 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
5 Warspite Class SSGN
15 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub)
10 Tigershark Class AOE
7 River CLass AOE
7 Clan Grant Class AOE
10 Norasia Class AOE
20 Centaur Class DDG
10 Meteora Class DDG
10 Mackensen Class BBs
20 Broadsword Class Frigates
7 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
7 Saviour Class Medical Ship

35 battlefleets, somewhere along 25 ships per battlefleet

I want to see your budget and how you afford it.

No one seems to be worried about small landing rubber crafts, there should be thermal tracking anti-personel computerized guns, like the Izrain. :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:

I want to see your budget and how you afford it.

Ok :) Give it to you tomorrow, I need sleep. Also, you do realize that my defense budget is, depending on the calculator, 3.5-4 trillion? (Thirdgeek = 3.5, Pipian = 4) And remember, I gave up land forces so it's all going towards Navy.

i can barely afford 3 of these cheapies

i can barely afford 3 of these cheapies
then you can't afford 2 of the Doujins

Hmpf.

A Doujin is no problem a suborbital trajectory hypervelocity antifortress missile can fix.

Axis Nova

wow, if ever a mouthful! :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :mp5:

Read your Heinlein.

Don't shoot at a Doujin.

Just throw rocks. 100% kill rate, guaranteed.

IDF - how much to "upgrade" the four Guillen's I bought before to the new builds?

IDF - how much to "upgrade" the four Guillen's I bought before to the new builds?
I'm nice to my customers so I do upgrades for free.

I do have a way to kill a Doujin, or any target for that matter.

Parthia has a system of Anti-Ballistic missile systems which utilize a particle accelerator to speed up a stream of atoms to high speeds. The atoms are then directed against earth or missiles and released in a high energy beam. The resulting kinetic energy is so great that it can burn crewmen to ash and combust ammunition.

The USSCR has several satellites which hold as their payload four 20 ton titanium beams, 40 feet long.

Its purpose?

To release the beams on a ballistic trajectory at a target.

The advantages?

Whether the glass hits the stone or the stone hits the glass, the stone isn't going to be hurt.

The effects?

Heavy shrapnel from anything it hits. Pointed versions can penetrate very deeply.

bump

IDF, I've been thinking about this, and I believe since you and Whittier are allies, as are he and I, you and I should also become allies with each other.

IDF, I've been thinking about this, and I believe since you and Whittier are allies, as are he and I, you and I should also become allies with each other.
sounds good ally

bump

I think $120,000,000,000 is a little much to ask. US Aircraft Carriers go for a mere $4,500,000,000. I think $50,000,000,000 would be a reasonable price at the most.

I think $120,000,000,000 is a little much to ask. US Aircraft Carriers go for a mere $4,500,000,000. I think $50,000,000,000 would be a reasonable price at the most.
I make little profit given the large build time. Other BBs are costing a lot more this is a cheap one

I'll take five if you'll be willing to bump it down to $119,999,999,999.99.

I'll take five if you'll be willing to bump it down to $119,999,999,999.99.
per ship I can do that

Sold.

I'll also be willing to invest in speed upgrades. Sorry for questioning cost. I just compared it to United States's last battleship and this one blows it away. However, United States's is much faster. Again, let me know how I can help with upgrades.