NationStates Jolt Archive


Soviet Arms Dealer Needed

Barretta
25-07-2004, 21:22
The Grand Duchy of Barretta is looking to expand its military to defend its borders, and we wish to continue to buy Eastern-bloc weapons systems. We would like a dealer in ex-Soviet arms to produce enough equipment to arm three full Motorized Rifle Divisions. We will pay handsomely for this service, and future contracts may be in order.

Dmitri Mann
Minister of Defense

(OOC: If the dealer needs the exact equipment requirements, I can provide them.)
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 21:33
At your service. What precise systems are you after? We can replace many of the original systems; for instance equipment such as the T-72 with the T-94B, BMPs with the BMP-3D, and so on. Or we can supply you with the original stuff.
Barretta
25-07-2004, 23:02
We are interested in the most advanced Soviet tech equipment you can provide, excepting the T-94. We would prefer that the T-90 be used instead, as we have found that our crews are more used to the controls. Other than that though, we are after the best we can get.
Chellis
25-07-2004, 23:19
We are interested in the most advanced Soviet tech equipment you can provide, excepting the T-94. We would prefer that the T-90 be used instead, as we have found that our crews are more used to the controls. Other than that though, we are after the best we can get.

We will sell you T-90's for 2.6 million dollars, T-95's for 4.9 million, Black eagles for 4.5 million, T-80UM's for 3.1 million, BMP-3's for $900,000, 2S19's for 2.4 million, An-94's for $1,700, and will get you prices on anything else you are interested in, we just need to know what you are looking for.
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 23:25
A full Soviet divisional set of equipment, drawn from our stocks, with the best kit available, will set you back 1,050,000,000 dollars. That's for:

220 T-90M MBT
324 BMP-3M IFV
18 2S19 SPG
36 2S1 SPG
72 D-30 Towed Gun
12 T-24AG 125mm Towed Anti-Tank Gun
18 BM-21U MRLS
54 2S9 120mm SPM
4 SS-26 SSMs
6 Mi-24VMU Helicopters
20 SA-19 SAMs
Communist Mississippi
25-07-2004, 23:29
If you allow us to help guide your domestic and foreign policies, I can provide you with


500 T-98 MBTs
1,500 BMP-3s
500 G-6 155mm SPA
1,000 G-5 155mm towed
50,000 AKM rifles
100,000 M-14B rifles
200 MiG-31s
100 MiG-29s
200 Su-25s


All I ask is you join "The Leauge of Empire Loyalists" and establish some right wing policies to favor the white peoples of your land over the other peoples. I also ask that you either pursue a policy of imperialism or isolationism, none of this "world police, save the heathens from colonization, crap"

The weapons and equipment along with 10,000 advisors to train you how to use them will be sent if you agree to my terms.
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 23:47
Or you could not, and we would be willing to do the same for you, except that we don't ask that you follow anybody's Party line. Also, we can refit your Air Forces and Navy if you wish. Your choice of course, but if you wish to turn into a Nazi state then on your own head/s be it.
Communist Mississippi
25-07-2004, 23:48
I will make you a client state of CM. That means you can receive all the benefits of CM protection. We will even man your AA and SAM sites if your crews cannot pass our training programs (USSR did this for Egypt when Egypt proved incapable of doing it themselves)


I'm willing to erect a massive SAM system in your nation. We can get over 10,000 SAMs and dozens of radar sites. It'll be great.
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 23:50
It'll also be a loss of sovreignty for you, and a transition into Nazism. We have greater resources than CM and can fulfil his purpose nicely, with one small difference: you get the choice as to what you do with your country.
Communist Mississippi
25-07-2004, 23:53
I'll allow you to join "The League of Empire Loyalists" and I'll even help you gain your first colony in Africa. (Any ideas what you'd want)

Also I'll help you start a C&B program (Chemical and Biological Weapons Program)

I'll also help you start work on 50-100 missile siloes for ICBMs.
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 23:56
Again, we could also do that. Hell and damnation, we have old Delta-IV SSBNs available if you want them, not to mention SS-17, -19 and -27 ICBMs. Then again, if you want to lose your sovreignty and become a totalitarian Nazi state that's your business. I unlike some round here allow people the choice.
Chellis
25-07-2004, 23:57
Barretta, we advise you ignore communist mississippi's offer. Gaining a few tanks and losing your sovereignty is a huge blow, and you will be under a very bad nation.
DontPissUsOff
25-07-2004, 23:58
Agreed. An arms deal should be an arms deal, not a take-over. By all means look for someone other than us, but we beg of you, don't turn into another semi-autonomous Nazi colony.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:01
Occ- I will guarantee you will maintain full sovereignty. I just want more allies, we will be equal partners in the grand alliance and the grand plan for Africa.


Occ- Remember, the meek will inherit the Earth. But that's after we're all dead, the here and now belongs to those who dare to take it. Join the Leauge of Empire Loyalists and you can stake your claim in Africa or Asia and become an empire.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 00:03
And also lose your sovreignty, since you have to adopt racist, Nazi policies in order to get the weapons. Again, if you fancy being dictated to by Nazis, fine. If not, then also fine. We have what it takes to do what you ask, but it's up to you to decide whether you will be one of those who will inherit the earth - not the meek, but the intelligent, the wise, the cautious, and the tolerant - or one of those who will eventually be destroyed.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:04
Stop thinking and follow me, and together with the rest of the alliance we shall one day rule the world.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:06
Remember, when you're tolerant you have to be universally tolerant, accept muslims fanatics, marxists, anarchists. Those who will fight each other and cause anarchy. It's far better to have homogenity and unity, rather than to become a Somalia, Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, or dozens others far too numerous to name.

Stop thinking and follow us, and together we shall rule the world.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 00:06
Stop thinking and follow, he says. Sound appealing? How are you going to inherit the world, rule it, when you cannot think, when your every instruction comes from a Nazi dictator who will brook no argument? And from a nation that has just suffered a disatrous defeat at the hands of the very people they so arrogantly attempted to conquer...
Chellis
26-07-2004, 00:07
Stop thinking is a term used when someone doesnt want you to find the truth.

Barretta, suicide(and by that i mean political suicide by joining CM) is a long-time solution to a short term problem.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 00:09
OOC: Um...is he even there? Hellooo?

IC: Stop thinking. How can the winner not think? Only those who think, who can tolerate criticism, and diversity, and will think outside of their oen pety prejudices and inane boxes can ever win.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:11
Trust me, Stop thinking and follow me and I shall guide you to greater victories and glory than you have ever dreamed possible.


Stop thinking and follow me, and I shall help you gain a great empire.

Occ- I can do enough thinking for the both of us.
Dream country
26-07-2004, 00:16
My country would officially like to warn you from buying weapons, and loosing the very purpose for witch you need the weapons. free will for youre nation.

Respectfully, Dream country.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:18
My country would officially like to warn you from buying weapons, and loosing the very purpose for witch you need the weapons. free will for youre nation.

Respectfully, Dream country.



"See, the only people who don't like CM are semiliterate boobs. Trust me, my nation can help you become a grand power."


Paul Stahlecker, minister of foreign affairs.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 00:23
Here is the list of equipment I need. The nation that offers me the best deal will get the contract.

266 T-90's
213 BRDM-2 (or most modern variant)
7 BRDM-rkh
316 BMP-3
30 BTR-90
50 Tunguska AA units
22 Shilka AA units
141 SA-18 SAMs
6 SA-6 SAMs (or most modern variant)
16 SA-19 SAMs
18 T-12 AT guns (or most modern variant)
324 RPG-7V (or most modern variant)
27 AT-15 ATGM
36 AT-13 ATGM
10300 AKS-74s
500 AK-74s
90 SVD Dragunovs
540 PKM LMGs
270 PKT LMGs
1150 Makarov pistols
7 MT-55 Tank-Launched Bridges
4 TMM Tank-Launched Bridges
12 GSP Tracked Ferries
1 PMP Pontoon Bridges
24 PTS-M Tracked Amphibians
3 T-54-T Armored Recovery Vehicles
3 Armored Tracked Minelayers
3 D-598 Graders
3 RAT-M Dozers
4 MDK_2 Ditching Machines
16 ARS-14 Decon. Vehicles
6 DDA-53 Decon. Vehicles
5 TMS-65 " "
300 KrAZ-255B trucks

My country builds our own artillery, so there is no need to include any in your offers.

The least-expensive and most modern (extra research will be rewarded) deal will win this contract and more in the future. I will need the amount of equipment above DOUBLED, as this is for 2 Motorized Rifle Divisions. Thank you.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:24
Here is the list of equipment I need. The nation that offers me the best deal will get the contract.

266 T-90's
213 BRDM-2 (or most modern variant)
7 BRDM-rkh
316 BMP-3
30 BTR-90
50 Tunguska AA units
22 Shilka AA units
141 SA-18 SAMs
6 SA-6 SAMs (or most modern variant)
16 SA-19 SAMs
18 T-12 AT guns (or most modern variant)
324 RPG-7V (or most modern variant)
27 AT-15 ATGM
36 AT-13 ATGM
10300 AKS-74s
500 AK-74s
90 SVD Dragunovs
540 PKM LMGs
270 PKT LMGs
1150 Makarov pistols
7 MT-55 Tank-Launched Bridges
4 TMM Tank-Launched Bridges
12 GSP Tracked Ferries
1 PMP Pontoon Bridges
24 PTS-M Tracked Amphibians
3 T-54-T Armored Recovery Vehicles
3 Armored Tracked Minelayers
3 D-598 Graders
3 RAT-M Dozers
4 MDK_2 Ditching Machines
16 ARS-14 Decon. Vehicles
6 DDA-53 Decon. Vehicles
5 TMS-65 " "
300 KrAZ-255B trucks

The least-expensive and most modern (extra research will be rewarded) deal will win this contract and more in the future. I will need the amount of equipment above DOUBLED, as this is for 2 Motorized Rifle Divisions. Thank you.


I'll give you the stuff for free. All you have to do is join "The League of Empire Loyalists", it's easy, just stop thinking and follow me. There is nothing to think about, it's an easy choice. Join me.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 00:28
CM, while we respect you as a nation, we cannot accept your offer. While your generosity is great, the Barrettans value their freedom more than anything else, and to submit to the rule of an even more right-wing government than our own would crush us as a people. We thank you for your offer though.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:28
CM, while we respect you as a nation, we cannot accept your offer. While your generosity is great, the Barrettans value their freedom more than anything else, and to submit to the rule of an even more right-wing government than our own would crush us as a people. We thank you for your offer though.


You don't have to do anything you don't want. There would be no "submitting" just join us as a partner, an ally.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 00:32
You don't have to do anything you don't want. There would be no "submitting" just join us as a partner, an ally.
We must respectfully decline. However, we wish to enquire as to how the shipping of water from Barretta to your colony in Libya is going. We have not really studied the results, and we wish to know that your colonists are thriving.
Communist Mississippi
26-07-2004, 00:36
We must respectfully decline. However, we wish to enquire as to how the shipping of water from Barretta to your colony in Libya is going. We have not really studied the results, and we wish to know that your colonists are thriving.

Colonists are fine.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 01:01
We will supply all the needed equipment if you wish. Also if you request we can supply advisors. Such a quantity of equipment will be costly, but since it is being drawn from army stocks, the total price will be approximately 1,050,000,000 dollars. The cost includes two basic ammunition loads for each weapon/vehicle. The following replacements will be performed to your lift:

RPG-7V replaced with RPG-27;
SA-6 replaced with SA-19 in 2S6M "Tunguska" AD system;
T-12 ATG replaced by 2A45M ATG;
SA-19s will be supplied separately, as you requested, in addition to those in the 2S6Ms.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 01:05
We will supply all the needed equipment if you wish. Also if you request we can supply advisors. Such a quantity of equipment will be costly, but since it is being drawn from army stocks, the total price will be approximately 1,050,000,000 dollars. The cost includes two basic ammunition loads for each weapon/vehicle. The following replacements will be performed to your lift:

RPG-7V replaced with RPG-27;
SA-6 replaced with SA-19 in 2S6M "Tunguska" AD system;
T-12 ATG replaced by 2A45M ATG;
SA-19s will be supplied separately, as you requested, in addition to those in the 2S6Ms.

You have my attention. I will wait for 1 (RL) hour, and if there are no other better offers, you will win the contract.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 01:08
We are hopeful. Would you be interested in some flamethrower tanks for urban combat, while I'm here?
Barretta
26-07-2004, 01:17
What kind of chassis are they mounted on?
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 01:19
Pretty much any, from the T-54 to the T-90. All we do is replace the machine-gun with a long-barreled ATO-200 automatic flamethrower. It costs a mere 37,000 dollars to convert the system, and it's highly effective against urban positions.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 01:35
We'll take 100 of these systems mounted on T-55 chassis
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 01:37
Done and dusted. Should arrive within the next 6 (NS) days.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 01:58
Any bidders, you have 5 (RL) minutes to get in an offer.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 02:11
Does this mean I got it?
Barretta
26-07-2004, 02:18
You sure did. Congratulations. We will purchase 2 Soviet Motorized Rifle Divisions from you for 1.05 billion dollars, and an additional 100 T-55-mounted flamethrowers. As soon as you have your order ready, we will wire the payment. We will contact you if we wish to make another purchase (consider it extremely likely) Thank you.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 02:20
Preparing your order will take approximately 7 days, and shipping another 10 days. We recommend you send payment only upon the arrival of all your systems, which will allow you to make some examination of them and attest to their quality (or lack of same). Any faulty or otherwise unsatisfactory systems will be replaced free of charge.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 02:26
Preparing your order will take approximately 7 days, and shipping another 10 days. We recommend you send payment only upon the arrival of all your systems, which will allow you to make some examination of them and attest to their quality (or lack of same). Any faulty or otherwise unsatisfactory systems will be replaced free of charge.

We await your delivery, and thank you for allowing us to test these new systems.
Malatose
26-07-2004, 02:31
The Soviet Communist Republics of Malatose will donate the equippment for 9 Motorized Divisions.

Motorized Rifle Division stats.
12 Sprut-SD Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Gun
12 GRAD-MLRS
100 Gaz-Humvees
12 152mm MSTA-B Self-Propelled Howitzer
23 Nona-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortor
265 BMP-3 Fighing Vehicles
10 152mm MSTA-B Howitzer
9 Mobile S-500 SAMs
Barretta
26-07-2004, 02:43
We must ask, Malatose, why would you donate such a large amount of equipment to us? Do you want us to do something for you in return? Are there conditions to this? We do not mean to probe, but this kind of charity rarely happens without demands. We thank you though for your kindness.
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 02:45
Also, that doesn't even fulfil one MRD...odd. :/
Malatose
26-07-2004, 02:46
We ask that our two nations sign a treaty of friendship.We will support you anytime you might need it and we ask you to support us.
Barretta
26-07-2004, 02:50
We accept your mutual defense pact, Malatose, and we thank you for your gift.
Malatose
26-07-2004, 02:51
You are welcome.