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GUILLEN CLASS BATTLESHIP

CLICK HERE TO SEE A FULL SIZE PIC (http://img32.exs.cx/img32/5874/BBGNII.jpg)


OVERVIEW: This is IDF's 1st super battleship. It is primarily designed for roles in bombardment of ground targets. It is the 1st IDF ship to have a rail gun or 30 inch main guns. It will be able to conduct long range attacks on other superships like the famed Doujin with the railgun. This battleship is also a good missile platform for ground strikes.

main stats
length: 2,256 feet
max beam: 212 feet
draught: 42 feet
displacement: 455,000 tons
powerplant: 5 shafts, 4 GE B5Y/B4J nuclear pressurized water reactors; 915,500 shp.
speed: 28.9 knots (upgrades being researched)
range: 24 years fuel for reactors
steering: 2 rudders and 4 of 5 screws are azipod; 2 sets of bow and aft thrusters
complement: 4,491 men

Armaments

GUNS
6 x 30 in main guns on 2 tri-turrets forward
6 x 200mm rail guns on individual mounts aft
16 x 5 in guns on 8 double-turrets
34 x 20mm Vulcan phalanx II CIWS

MISSILES
342 VLS cells in 2 aft groups (put what you want in)
4 ESSMs can be put in a single cell, all other missiles need their own cell

ARMOR

Main side belt: 20.5 inches at 17 degree incline
Main deck armor: 4.25 inches
2nd deck armor: 9 inches
splinter deck armor 1.75 inches
turret faceplate 28.25 inches
turret side 17.75 inches
superstructure 25.75 inches

AIRCRAFT
4 SH-60F LAMPS III ASW (you can put any type on)

PRICE = $55 BILLION

I'd like to purchase 4 please.


220 billion wired upon confirmation.

I'd like to purchase 4 please.


220 billion wired upon confirmation.
confirmed, ready in 3 NS years.

I would to offer you this.I would like lease a ship.How much will it be?

*jaw drops* Dang nice ship. I'll like to buy one for testing

I would to offer you this.I would like lease a ship.How much will it be?
I can lease one for 750 million a year for x number of years. I will only lease to trusted allies and you qualify as that.

I can lease one for 750 million a year for x number of years. I will only lease to trusted allies and you qualify as that.
Deal I'll lease it for One year.The 750 million is on the way.

*jaw drops* Dang nice ship. I'll like to buy one for testing
confirmed for delivery in 3 years.

Deal I'll lease it for One year.The 750 million is on the way.
confirmed, I will then offer it to you to buy at regular price minus money spent on lease or I will integrate it in my fleet. I have the ship insured and will need $25 million to pay the deductable if it is sunk or severely damaged

confirmed, I will then offer it to you to buy at regular price minus money spent on lease or I will integrate it in my fleet. I have the ship insured and will need $25 million to pay the deductable if it is sunk or severely damaged
its ok i don't want a Big ship in the fleet.I just want to test it out for one year.and 25 million is on the way.

its ok i don't want a Big ship in the fleet.I just want to test it out for one year.and 25 million is on the way.
$25 million is only needed if damaged. Since it is still owned by me I pay the premiums, you only pay if something happens to it.

Constructive Critizism

1. Battleship gun saturation of coastlines are no longer common sense because this battleship is toast if a missile with a range of, even, two hundred kilometers (most missiles go over this range) hits it.

2. You are much better served taking out the helo pad - keeping helos strictly to Destroyers and Carriers - as well as the rail gun, and anything else you have on there, and making a big missile boat; give it fifty SAM batteries, each being able to fire four S-400s, and there goes your anti-missile needs (two hundred S-400s each reload). Then add some one hundred cruise missile, or anti-ship batteries, and you give yourself a perfect big ass, armored, missile boat...of course, with the size of this baby you can add way more of what I described, making it even better. (Remember that a SAM can't hit a sea-skimmer, unless you target it before the attack phase.)

3. Battleships, especially big ass battleships, cost a TON to maintaine..you're much better served using submarines...I use them because I'm too lazy to decommission any battleships.

Constructive Critizism

1. Battleship gun saturation of coastlines are no longer common sense because this battleship is toast if a missile with a range of, even, two hundred kilometers (most missiles go over this range) hits it.

true of old battleships, but the rail gun technology allows 245 nautical mile bombardments of the coast and that is far greater than 200 km. It also will be with escorts with AEGIS systems

2. You are much better served taking out the helo pad - keeping helos strictly to Destroyers and Carriers - as well as the rail gun, and anything else you have on there, and making a big missile boat; give it fifty SAM batteries, each being able to fire four S-400s, and there goes your anti-missile needs (two hundred S-400s each reload). Then add some one hundred cruise missile, or anti-ship batteries, and you give yourself a perfect big ass, armored, missile boat...of course, with the size of this baby you can add way more of what I described, making it even better. (Remember that a SAM can't hit a sea-skimmer, unless you target it before the attack phase.)

this ship's anti-missile capabilities mainly arise from AEGIS escots, but with ESSMs it can hold its own. The choppers take up little space on this design and are important for SAR and were even used on US Iowas. The rail gun is my secondary armament and my favorite addition, that is what gives this ship it's attack power

3. Battleships, especially big ass battleships, cost a TON to maintaine..you're much better served using submarines...I use them because I'm too lazy to decommission any battleships.

a sub can't have the railguns or my 30 in guns. Besides I need something to compete with other superships like Doujin

Thanks for the criticism, I may incorporate some of #2 and add RAMs

OOC: I never bothered with battleships. I find that a fleet of fast-moving Fenrir-class Ekranoplans (300 NM/hour) armed with six AS launchers can ream any large target.

After all, it's kinda dumb to waste your cash on a slow-moving behemoth when I can spend less cash on faster and more numerous vessels.

I'll buy 4.
220 Billion wired on confirmation.

OOC: I never bothered with battleships. I find that a fleet of fast-moving Fenrir-class Ekranoplans (300 NM/hour) armed with six AS launchers can ream any large target.

After all, it's kinda dumb to waste your cash on a slow-moving behemoth when I can spend less cash on faster and more numerous vessels.

OOC: Ekranoplanes have their own problems, and don't really fill the same role as the battleship.

We'd suggest better point defense, as a matter of fact, and perhaps more dedicated AA fire systems.

Cool that reminds us of the Last Type of ECF Class BattleShips. Used in the Wars Between the Right Winged Nazi Like Goverment Rebels aND THE Liberal Goverment we have today.
Only ours were slightly more powerful.
Looks Kinda Cool. Though lacking in style

I'll buy 4.
220 Billion wired on confirmation.
confirmed

OOC: Uh, the ETA for the building of these is complete godmodding. How are you going to be building dozens of 2,000+ long battleships in THREE YEARS? The Yamato, which was only 860 ft long, took FIVE years to build, and they were only building one.

OOC: Uh, the ETA for the building of these is complete godmodding. How are you going to be building dozens of 2,000+ long battleships in THREE YEARS? The Yamato, which was only 860 ft long, took FIVE years to build, and they were only building one.

OOC: Which mostly has to do with Japanese WWII-era construction capacity. The USA built hulls much, much, faster, and if he has multiple slips, he can construct multiple ships at once... and the Japanese, for your information, built three Yamato class vessels (Musashi, Shinano), completing the last one as an aircraft carrier. As you might know if you'd taken the battleship quiz (
http://quizilla.com/users/TJHairball/quizzes/Battleship%20Quiz) enough times to get the Yamato class.

The United Empire of Migaria will like to buy one...used either for a temporary flagship...or to be later deconstructed for parts

*money wired upon confirmation*

OOC: Which mostly has to do with Japanese WWII-era construction capacity. The USA built hulls much, much, faster, and if he has multiple slips, he can construct multiple ships at once... and the Japanese, for your information, built three Yamato class vessels (Musashi, Shinano), completing the last one as an aircraft carrier. As you might know if you'd taken the battleship quiz enough times to get the Yamato class.

I've taken the battleship quiz and finished it the first time with Yamato. Perhaps you never even bothered to look up how long it took the Iowa-class to be built? Guess what! It took three years for the Iowa-class, which was around 50k tons displacement. If this thing is three times the length of the Yamato, thats maybe 10 years being extremely generous, considering its EIGHT TIMES the size of an Iowa-class.

The United Empire of Migaria will like to buy one...used either for a temporary flagship...or to be later deconstructed for parts

*money wired upon confirmation*
confirmed

I've taken the battleship quiz and finished it the first time with Yamato. Perhaps you never even bothered to look up how long it took the Iowa-class to be built? Guess what! It took three years for the Iowa-class, which was around 50k tons displacement. If this thing is three times the length of the Yamato, thats maybe 10 years being extremely generous.
if you checked my thread where I announced the secret plans and neared completion I said I can build 10 per year at initial capacity with a 5 NS year build time. I've been building for 5 years as the 1st year ships just finished.

I have multiple shipyards as my main business is shipbuilding. More slips will be built soon.

The United Empire of Migaria will like to buy one...used either for a temporary flagship...or to be later deconstructed for parts

*money wired upon confirmation*
you have confirmation

So you've got enough room in your nation to lay down over fifty 450k ton battleships in addition the many hundreds of other ships you have to be making? Much godmodding there.

So you've got enough room in your nation to lay down over fifty 450k ton battleships in addition the many hundreds of other ships you have to be making? Much godmodding there.
when your economy is based around ship building and that is your prime industry then you do have the room. I opened up a new facility on the Red Sea off Eastern Sinai penninsula just for these killers

OOC: How did you create the image IDF? MS Paint?

I've taken the battleship quiz and finished it the first time with Yamato. Perhaps you never even bothered to look up how long it took the Iowa-class to be built? Guess what! It took three years for the Iowa-class, which was around 50k tons displacement. If this thing is three times the length of the Yamato, thats maybe 10 years being extremely generous, considering its EIGHT TIMES the size of an Iowa-class.

For the Iowa itself, a bit less than three years; two and a half years to the launch, actually, at which point a hurried customer could take delivery.

Larger aircraft carriers have gone 3-4 years from being laid down to final commissioning. How fast it'll take this fellow to build this monstrosity depends largely on what his priorities are. For $55B, he can pay for a rush job, and if he's bright, he's already built the assorted slips and parts factories called for in the design before taking customers - for that matter, already started construction on the first few. The Jahre Viking actually displaces more tonnage. On average, the typical oil tanker - roughly 200-300,000 tons displacement - takes 25 months to build in the modern age.

If there is the impetus to build a truly massive ship in three years, it can be done.

OOC: my nation has done mass bulding of ships and it is our life-blood. While some nation's industries may be electronics or cars, ours is ship building. A yard was prepared and these are built with pre-fab parts (just like the Nimitz class).

My ships take 5 years to build, but I said 3 for delivery as some have been under construction for a few years

OOC: How did you create the image IDF? MS Paint?
yep, MS Paint, that's all I have on my comp for that sort of thing

IDF is also far more populated than Japan, and probably economically succesful. He should have the industrial base to produce these at the rate he has set.

IDF is also far more populated than Japan, and probably economically succesful. He should have the industrial base to produce these at the rate he has set.
my economy rating is frightening, I've RPed the building of my shipyards as I've added more and larger designs than my original Farragut DDGs

yep, MS Paint, that's all I have on my comp for that sort of thing
OOC: Thats all I have too. I'm not that good though...Doodled something earlier. Suits my purposes.

You cant build hundreds upon hundreds of massive ships with one port facility. The ETA for these things is way too low. Ask Doujin how long the ETA for making one of his ships is. If it took just 3 years to crank out a battleship and I could fifty in 5 years, I would rule the seas with ease. Its godmodding, IDF.

You cant build hundreds upon hundreds of massive ships with one port facility. The ETA for these things is way too low. Ask Doujin how long the ETA for making one of his ships is. If it took just 3 years to crank out a battleship and I could fifty in 5 years, I would rule the seas with ease. Its godmodding, IDF.
you would rule the seas with that many, but no nation can support 50 and I'm not building 50 for myself, I'll only have a little more than 5 at the time being and I can't afford to maintain more.

I am doing it in 5 years not 3, read before you post. Doujin never mass produced his supership as he only needed about 5 and never sold them.

Can I have it for a week for free, for educational purposes only?

I will purchase one of these battleships for our navy. They really took their budget with this one, haha! OOC: First time i have ever bought a created ship!

$50,000,000,000 wired to your account.

Can I have it for a week for free, for educational purposes only?
I can loan you one from my navy as none are doing anything, the USS Magglio Ordonez 2nd ship of class, but you must guess where I got the name for this ship and the overall class.

I will purchase one of these battleships for our navy. They really took their budget with this one, haha! OOC: First time i have ever bought a created ship!

$50,000,000,000 wired to your account.
confirmed

bump

The Navy of Antarctica123 shall order one of these fine ships.
.:money is to be wired upon confirmation:.

The Navy of Antarctica123 shall order one of these fine ships.
.:money is to be wired upon confirmation:.
confirmed

My challenge, someone guess where I got the name for the class and the 1st person to be correct will get 10% off of one of these ships

Ill take 1.

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Money Wired on Confirmation
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From the Office of Military affairs, Big Jim P:

If this vessel can be suitably modified. We will take two, One to be built as a carrier.

Payment transferred over the waiting period for delivery.

Ill take 1.

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Money Wired on Confirmation
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confirmed

From the Office of Military affairs, Big Jim P:

If this vessel can be suitably modified. We will take two, One to be built as a carrier.

Payment transferred over the waiting period for delivery.
confirmed, the large hull will allow hundreds of planes to be based on her

bump

Ok, my answer to someone comparing this monstrosity of a ship to an Oil Tanker, yes Oil Tankers are produced in massive numbers, yes they displace a lot (when loaded). But, and its a big one, Oil tankers do not have weapons systems, and the actual ship design itself Tankers are far less complex than this massive monstrosity. Who really needs a ship that big, granted under my other nations name I'm in the business of Building Battleships, yes there can be an arguement for using such ships. But an Iowa Gun(my favorite to use) hurls a 2700lb shell for miles, What do you need with a 30" battery, what target is so larget that 16-18" Shell can't destroy? actually for that matter there are few targets you need more than an 8" for. There is no precision in this vessel, just massive destruction. Accuracy is the key, its like the difference between a Samurai with a Katana and big viking or german with a Battleaxe, in almost all cases the katana is fine for everything, fast, accurate, sharp and Strong. While the BattleAxe is more for smashing. Gargantuan Battleships are here more or less for National Leaders(and their players) to show of the size of their C*cks. When I left for Basic Training in February I heard talk of 21" gunnery on this site, and now we are up to 30+ inches. Railguns nonetheless. While certanily its feasible, why bother. Yes the Germans had a battleship program almost as massive as this, but that was because Hitler was a Meglomaniac and probly had a small penis. Now what missions could these monstrosities that are far to expensive to man and mantain to bother getting do that my 60-70,000 ton Battleships and Assault Battleships or my 28,000 ton Assault Cruisers can't? This is the problem with NS no one thinks about the real world BIGGER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER!!!!


I'll give you an Example, I'm a Military Police Soldier in the United States Army

I've Fired a MK 19 Grenade Machinegun (40mm Belt fed, fully Auto, 2,212 meter range) and the M-249 Squad Automatic Weapon (5.56mm, Fully Auto, 850rpm, 400 Meter range)

I liked the SAW better, you may ask why? well the MK 19 becomes less usefull if you enter an enviroment with lots of civilians because you have to be carefull where you shoot, while the SAW rounds don't explode on impact and have a 15 meter wound radius (5 meter Death). Either way your causing mass casaulties amongst the enemy by putting a lot of steel on target but your causing less Civilian Casualties.


This is my rant and I apologize for it, but i keep seeing these enourmous unfeasible ships created by people with less than a clue.

GUILLEN CLASS BATTLESHIP

CLICK HERE TO SEE A FULL SIZE PIC (http://img32.exs.cx/img32/5874/BBGNII.jpg)


OVERVIEW: This is IDF's 1st super battleship. It is primarily designed for roles in bombardment of ground targets. It is the 1st IDF ship to have a rail gun or 30 inch main guns. It will be able to conduct long range attacks on other superships like the famed Doujin with the railgun. This battleship is also a good missile platform for ground strikes.

main stats
length: 2,256 feet
max beam: 212 feet
draught: 42 feet
displacement: 455,000 tons
powerplant: 5 shafts, 4 GE B5Y/B4J nuclear pressurized water reactors; 915,500 shp.
speed: 28.9 knots (upgrades being researched)
range: 24 years fuel for reactors
steering: 2 rudders and 4 of 5 screws are azipod; 2 sets of bow and aft thrusters
complement: 4,491 men

Armaments

GUNS
6 x 30 in main guns on 2 tri-turrets forward
6 x 200mm rail guns on individual mounts aft
16 x 5 in guns on 8 double-turrets
34 x 20mm Vulcan phalanx II CIWS

MISSILES
342 VLS cells in 2 aft groups (put what you want in)
4 ESSMs can be put in a single cell, all other missiles need their own cell

ARMOR

Main side belt: 20.5 inches at 17 degree incline
Main deck armor: 4.25 inches
2nd deck armor: 9 inches
splinter deck armor 1.75 inches
turret faceplate 28.25 inches
turret side 17.75 inches
superstructure 25.75 inches

AIRCRAFT
4 SH-60F LAMPS III ASW (you can put any type on)

PRICE = $55 BILLION

*Sighs* WHEN WILL THE GODMODDING END!?

[OOC: Is this Trimarian hulled or mono-hulled?]

My challenge, someone guess where I got the name for the class and the 1st person to be correct will get 10% off of one of these ships

[OOC: May be unfair since I read the thread in General, but it's named after Ozzie Guillen, manager and former shortstop for the Chicago White Sox.]

The Federation of Ynys will purchase one of these ships for our naval forces, payment will be made upon delivery

John Every
Ministry of Defence

Could we purchase 5 of this grand ships? 275 billion will be wired upon confirmation.

[OOC: Is this Trimarian hulled or mono-hulled?]
mono hulled

[OOC: May be unfair since I read the thread in General, but it's named after Ozzie Guillen, manager and former shortstop for the Chicago White Sox.]
correct

The Federation of Ynys will purchase one of these ships for our naval forces, payment will be made upon delivery

John Every
Ministry of Defence
confirmed

Could we purchase 5 of this grand ships? 275 billion will be wired upon confirmation.

confirmed

*Sighs* WHEN WILL THE GODMODDING END!?
everyother nation sees this as OK, including Doujin who is the God of building and designing ships on NS and studies shipbuilding and designs. You're just mad I got 2 of your nations Deleted

nice Ship

I have a a Question thow

Is it posible to convert some of the wepond turents to Rador domes?

If so the TBAaliance wil purchance 2 of these great ships For survailance use in our War on the Terrorist group Red Dragons

I'd like another 2.
Money Wired on Confirmation

nice Ship

I have a a Question thow

Is it posible to convert some of the wepond turents to Rador domes?

If so the TBAaliance wil purchance 2 of these great ships For survailance use in our War on the Terrorist group Red Dragons
confirmed, it is possible to turn them into radar domes, but I think you are better off inserting a large radar dome atop the superstructure or the helo pad and keeping all your weapons to bombard the Red Dragons

I'd like another 2.
Money Wired on Confirmation
This order is confirmed, thanks for the business

People build Super Battleships, Carriers, or whatever then sell them to the world :headbang:

Hell people should keep them secret then kick their enemy's ass with it.
:mp5: :mp5:

you have tg.

People build Super Battleships, Carriers, or whatever then sell them to the world :headbang:

Hell people should keep them secret then kick their enemy's ass with it.
:mp5: :mp5:
Only Doujin has a good one out and he won't sell it so I'm giving people the ability to remove Doujin's supremacy or at least chalenge him

People build Super Battleships, Carriers, or whatever then sell them to the world :headbang:

Hell people should keep them secret then kick their enemy's ass with it.
:mp5: :mp5:


Well generally it is difficult to hide extremely large things like this, so its best that they're out in the open than introduced halfway through an RP as "OMG LOOK THIS IS MY AMAZING!OMG WARSHIP!!!!". Tends not to do the RP too much good.

What you also find is that the commercial versions of the vessels tend not to be as well equipped as the vessels you deploy yourself. For instance, the Centaur I sell on my storefront, although significantly more powerful than any real-life design, is still inferior to the Centaurs myself and my allies deploy.

Well generally it is difficult to hide extremely large things like this, so its best that they're out in the open than introduced halfway through an RP as "OMG LOOK THIS IS MY AMAZING!OMG WARSHIP!!!!". Tends not to do the RP too much good.

What you also find is that the commercial versions of the vessels tend not to be as well equipped as the vessels you deploy yourself. For instance, the Centaur I sell on my storefront, although significantly more powerful than any real-life design, is still inferior to the Centaurs myself and my allies deploy.

These are to be scarsely used and can't be hidden, they have heavy armor which is what they depend on for survival, a nuke can of course kill them, but if you nuke me you can expect similar done to you.

this is armored like a Doujin with the layers that will contain missile damage and makes rail guns the only way to do severe damage (which is why I designed it, to kill a Doujin and fortified places)

These are to be scarsely used and can't be hidden, they have heavy armor which is what they depend on for survival, a nuke can of course kill them, but if you nuke me you can expect similar done to you.

this is armored like a Doujin with the layers that will contain missile damage and makes rail guns the only way to do severe damage (which is why I designed it, to kill a Doujin and fortified places)

Ummm...I don't think so.

If you're going to armor this thing like a Doujin, then your construction times are far too low. If you're going to equip it like a Doujin, then your construction times are far too low. I'm not sure about this (Freethinkers?), but it takes 30 YEARS to construct a single Doujin. Ancient Terra maintains 7 Doujins. 30% of our economy is based around Shipbuilding (commercial and military), and we still had to construct seperate facilities to build the Doujins.

I suppose it all depends on what is going onto these ships. If you're just throwing slabs of steel on, then I suppose its possible to crank one of these out in 5 years, but don't expect it to have the survivability of a Doujin. You see, the Doujin's armor is not simply thick steel or titanium.

(ooc: And I apologize if this sounds harsh, it was not intended that way. :D)

Ummm...I don't think so.

If you're going to armor this thing like a Doujin, then your construction times are far too low. If you're going to equip it like a Doujin, then your construction times are far too low. I'm not sure about this (Freethinkers?), but it takes 30 YEARS to construct a single Doujin. Ancient Terra maintains 7 Doujins. 30% of our economy is based around Shipbuilding (commercial and military), and we still had to construct seperate facilities to build the Doujins.

I suppose it all depends on what is going onto these ships. If you're just throwing slabs of steel on, then I suppose its possible to crank one of these out in 5 years, but don't expect it to have the survivability of a Doujin. You see, the Doujin's armor is not simply thick steel or titanium.

(ooc: And I apologize if this sounds harsh, it was not intended that way. :D)

We RPed the building of yards for future superships in May, (that would be about 60 NS years ago) I'm too lazy to go that far, but you can if you'd like, it came when i got Sinai and Gaza when I built 2 yards on the new land. Theses ships are pre-fab and the 5 years is assembly. We have machine shops across IDF making parts as 25% of our nation's population is employed in an industy relating to shipbuilding or are building the ships.

Ab-shalom and fascinated greetings.

If it would not strain your yards, The Sultan would be pleased to see four of these within his navy.

Please deliver 2 to Port Karii, 2 to Sisu Vaari

198 billion wired on confirmation (220 billion - 10% discount)

Namaste,
Raahmid Javani
Grand Vizier,
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

1. Battleship gun saturation of coastlines are no longer common sense because this battleship is toast if a missile with a range of, even, two hundred kilometers (most missiles go over this range) hits it.

2. You are much better served taking out the helo pad - keeping helos strictly to Destroyers and Carriers - as well as the rail gun, and anything else you have on there, and making a big missile boat; give it fifty SAM batteries, each being able to fire four S-400s, and there goes your anti-missile needs (two hundred S-400s each reload). Then add some one hundred cruise missile, or anti-ship batteries, and you give yourself a perfect big ass, armored, missile boat...of course, with the size of this baby you can add way more of what I described, making it even better. (Remember that a SAM can't hit a sea-skimmer, unless you target it before the attack phase.)

3. Battleships, especially big ass battleships, cost a TON to maintaine..you're much better served using submarines...I use them because I'm too lazy to decommission any battleships.

There is a niche that cannot be filled by Carriers or Cruisers/Destroyers/Missile Ships that Battleships fill. They provide presence, they are not easily destroyed(It took over 18 bombs, 11 torpedos and whatnot just to sink the Yamatto). It takes 10-15 missiles to sink one of my Battleships, and that's if those missiles are lucky. At 500,000 per missile (Just a general guideline, that's how much Tomahawk missiles cost[It cost over a million to launch one though]) it gets way to costly to destroy a ship when you can do it with a Battleship for much cheaper. And I'd like to see you destroy my Doujin Class without using a Nuclear Weapon.

IDF, Don't you EVER say that I "approved" of something, understood?

First off, this thing wuoldn't even hurt a Doujin Class Mk.II Refit, which is what me and my allies use. It wouldn't really even hurt a normal Doujin either, so my "supremacy" is still unmatched. And yes, I am selling normal Doujin's for the price of 300 billion per Doujin Class vesse - might lower it because it really only cost 225 billion I do believe. And yes, it took 30 years - that was the least amount of time it could take. 30 years 'rushing' it. (Using some pre-fab parts, etc etc)

We RPed the building of yards for future superships in May, (that would be about 60 NS years ago) I'm too lazy to go that far, but you can if you'd like, it came when i got Sinai and Gaza when I built 2 yards on the new land. Theses ships are pre-fab and the 5 years is assembly. We have machine shops across IDF making parts as 25% of our nation's population is employed in an industy relating to shipbuilding or are building the ships.

It would take 5 years alone to lay down the hull, then another 5-10 years + to do everything else... oh wait, no this is a crappy ship. Hell, you know what? Forget everything I said. I need target practice.

Doujin: Master of Subtlety :D

Very VERY impressive. It rivals the BioCannon Battleship Cruiser of Furor Atlantis. Although I am not looking to purchasing any (naval warfare is our supiriority) I very astonished of your knowledge in naval battles. Please, continue on studying, as 75% of our planet is ocean, more battles should be fought overseas.

http://www.gaizme.com/images/doujin12.png (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujinbb.html)

Click the above banner for stats, if you wish to order one - TG me :) Price is 250 billion per vessel.

IDF, Don't you EVER say that I "approved" of something, understood?


ROFL!!!!

IDF Just can't stop the lying.

Liar!

*laff*

confirmed, it is possible to turn them into radar domes, but I think you are better off inserting a large radar dome atop the superstructure or the helo pad and keeping all your weapons to bombard the Red Dragons
Good Idea The TBAalliance will purchase 2 of these great ships the 110 billion will be sent on confirmation of order

The Armed Republic would like to order 2 super battleships.

Total - 110 bn

-----Money Wired Upon Confirmation-----

Ab-shalom and fascinated greetings.

If it would not strain your yards, The Sultan would be pleased to see four of these within his navy.

Please deliver 2 to Port Karii, 2 to Sisu Vaari

198 billion wired on confirmation (220 billion - 10% discount)

Namaste,
Raahmid Javani
Grand Vizier,
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
confirmed, be advised that it will take a while to build

ROFL!!!!

IDF Just can't stop the lying.
Go use your Greece and Cyprus account Nazi

The Armed Republic would like to order 2 super battleships.

Total - 110 bn

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I confirm this order

Good Idea The TBAalliance will purchase 2 of these great ships the 110 billion will be sent on confirmation of order
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Nice job on MSPaint, I do all of my stuff on there too.

As for purchasing, just saying G/j, but I already have something that is about the same size (it will be sale for soon, so far, it is only for myself).

In response to International advise, mainly from Doujin, I will do some redesigns and maybe even make a new version or different ship which may be Trimarian. Battleships are important and must remain in Navys

I want 2 ships.

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I want 2 ships.

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OOC: Unzips his pants and urniates on the specs, then spits


Jesus christ where will be people go, this sure as shit is not modern tech.

OOC: Unzips his pants and urniates on the specs, then spits


Jesus christ where will be people go, this sure as shit is not modern tech.
It is considered modern tech as it is similar to others called modern tech

OOC: Unzips his pants and urniates on the specs, then spits


Jesus christ where will be people go, this sure as shit is not modern tech.


Ok, do point out where it is not "modern" as in "accomplishable within 10 years".

"Modern" doesn't mean "stagnant".

I will tweek with the design, enlarge it possibly and improve general areas, anyone want to suggest anything

I'd like 2 invest in 1 of ur ships.

Does anybody know where I could find out how much money I have?

The Most High, Holy and Rightful Lord of Spunjonia,

Spongebob B. Squarepants

Check this out

http://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v143/pwrhouseguitar/Battleship_Hornet.jpg


That is with photoshop, not ms paint, mind you :D

I dont like the guns, esspecially the ones at the back and the way the turrets are:

a) huge compared to the ship (even for 34" guns they wouldnt be that big)
b) the turrets seem to hover

but the hull is nice.

I was aiming more to give the entire ship some texture, as well as more light instead of editing the actual model.

I see

Ok, do point out where it is not "modern" as in "accomplishable within 10 years".

"Modern" doesn't mean "stagnant".


no, but please do realize that i doubt in the next ten years ship sizes would increase to that considering navies are realizing smaller and quicker is better not GARGANTUAN. and frickin 30+" naval rifles? c'mon, your almost doubling the size of current designs, now if they had gradually gotten bigger since world war II that might be a possiblity but i don't think they would have ever gotten that big. The whole rail gun thing, i'm not too up to date on it. But i doubt that the technology would progress as advanced as yours is within 10 years. So you have cannons that have to be firing shells that weigh close to 10,000lbs, explain to me what your loading mechanisms are, how much powder bags each shell takes, how they are stored, etc.

Second Explain why someone would want a ship with a beam that large?
You can't get through a LOT of waterways in the world thereby limiting the ships uses. Yes on open sea it doesn't matter but tell me what do the sailors think of the fact that they won't get shore leave in so many ports not built to hand something like that.


Explain the uses of this ship, yes you said to combat the other superbattleships but I don't get it, why bother with something that big, why build a ship that has to be a tremendous waste on resources when you can build say 10 Montana-Yamato Size Warships for the same price as one of yours and most missiles in mondern day warfare wouldn't do shit to them.

I am pleased to announce that if any country that buys these attempts to attack me or my allies I will sit in my computer chair laughing till i cry at the penis envy of someone that needs something that big. tell if it is accomplishable in the next 10 years, that would mean construction would start in 5 and that all that technology is here now.

lets remember the story of the Iowa, First 6 ordered in 1936, first one delivered in 1943-1944, and thats with a nation fully into shipbuilding as part of our war machine.

You simply have built something too big to believe feasible or sensible.

You my good friend are a........crap I can't call you anything because that is considered flaming.


And where is your degree in shipbuilding in the real world so that you can pretend that you know what you are talking about, I mean what enourmous shipbuilding firm do you work for?

The first Iowa took that long to be delivered because there wasn't much motivation to build new battleships, once the war came and the US' industrial base spooled up to full production, new battleships were being pumped out once every two to three weeks. However, I doubt this design is feasible because I can guarantee the draft calculations are totally wrong, if he even bothered with them in the first place.

The first Iowa took that long to be delivered because there wasn't much motivation to build new battleships, once the war came and the US' industrial base spooled up to full production, new battleships were being pumped out once every two to three weeks. However, I doubt this design is feasible because I can guarantee the draft calculations are totally wrong, if he even bothered with them in the first place.
I didn't calculate, that's why I'm revamping it