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Archduke Rufai Introduces Ban On Religions

Rufai
22-07-2004, 00:33
Today The Archduke has issued a new law in The IFR, where all known religions have been outlawed and a new religion, known as Rufaiism, has been made compulsory for everyone.

This country hereby denies knowledge of any other religions, and the official religion is now Rufaiism. All of the major religious leaders within the country have been rounded up and exiled from the country, and all worshippers of Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and any other religions have been contained in "re-education" camps in the north of the IFR. Judaism has already been outlawed in the IFR and all Jews have been dispensed with.

All religious buildings, for example mosques, temples, churches, have been torn down by the Labour Corps of the IFR, and they are now beginning work on the Houses Of Rufai. ANy religious artefacts have been destroyed.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 00:36
Premier Fabus is calling on all right-wing white Christians to flee your land and come to CM. We will pay $200,000 per person + travelling expenses and we will also get them a house and a job.

We are opening our colony in Libya to right-wing white Christian refugees from any nation in the world. They can move alongside the already 50 million CM whites living in Libya.
Arx Angelus
22-07-2004, 00:37
ooc: Please, could you tell me of some of the basic beliefs of the Rufaii Faith?
Rufai
22-07-2004, 00:41
We regret to inform Communist Mississippi that we wish to keep our right wing whites, despite their religion, as we want to re-educate them to the Rufaiist way.

The Rufai religion believes in no God, but a saviour for the world to bring the Earth back to the people who hold the power to run it. This person is Archduke Rufai, aka Rufai The Great or The Messiah.

OOC: Basically it's not really religion, just a bunch of fanatical followers supporting a figure. Wait a minute...That is religion!
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 00:49
We regret to inform Communist Mississippi that we wish to keep our right wing whites, despite their religion, as we want to re-educate them to the Rufaiist way.

The Rufai religion believes in no God, but a saviour for the world to bring the Earth back to the people who hold the power to run it. This person is Archduke Rufai, aka Rufai The Great or The Messiah.

OOC: Basically it's not really religion, just a bunch of fanatical followers supporting a figure. Wait a minute...That is religion!


Unacceptable. We demand you immediately allow every right wing white that wants to leave to do so. We will consider possible action against you if you persist in treating your right-wing whites worse than dogs.

Churches around CM are taking up collections to help settle right-wing whites from around the world. Pope Pius XIII has said, "In these times that try men's souls, we must stand firmly with our brethren against the dark races and against the eternal jew. We must stand firm against the rising tide of color that threaten to consume us all. All the true faithful of God will open their arms to their white racial kinsmen that are yearning to breathe free from jewish mind poison."

Occ- let them flee to CM or face the consequences.


Ic- We are currently trying to find somewhere for the 10 million blacks in our nation to go. What's say we trade?
Rufai
22-07-2004, 00:54
We will not exchange whites for blacks. Our nation is pure white and will remain so.

We will, however, be willing to send any right-wing whites which will not be re-educated successfully. We hope this is a compromise.

By the way...So far we have had no complaints from ANY white Christians.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 00:58
We will not exchange whites for blacks. Our nation is pure white and will remain so.

We will, however, be willing to send any right-wing whites which will not be re-educated successfully. We hope this is a compromise.

By the way...So far we have had no complaints from ANY white Christians.


We don't believe what you're saying. We want to send inspection teams to the camps to see what is really going on.

We'll accept the 2nd part of what you said about sending us some of the people.


We'll make you a deal, you let 30 million right-wing whites avoid "re-education" and move to Mississippian Egypt, and we'll give you 500 billion dollars. Hold a lottery to see which ones get to go. Keep families together though. Do that and we'll forget about anything else with you and let you go about your business. But we will also be willing to pay for any who are sent to, but fail to pass your "re-education" camps.


Occ- There are currently 30 million arabs and only 10 million whites in Mississippian Egypt. We need to get it to a white majority, that is why we want 30 million whites to move there. So there can be a majority of whites (although it will only be 57%). Eventually we plan to move more and more whites there until they get to about 90% of the population.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:04
We do not allow inspectors to check out the camps. This is the primary rule.

You may check with the Christians BEFORE they go to the camps.

We will consider your lottery idea. 30 million seems far too many however. We need our population for the growth of the economy and the country, and the furthering of the white race.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 01:07
We do not allow inspectors to check out the camps. This is the primary rule.

You may check with the Christians BEFORE they go to the camps.

We will consider your lottery idea. 30 million seems far too many however. We need our population for the growth of the economy and the country, and the furthering of the white race.

20 million then? That way the colony of Mississippian Egypt can be 50% white.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:09
Why not deport the 50% non-white persons and then send some setters from your own country?

Archduke Rufai shall consider this offer...
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 01:15
Why not deport the 50% non-white persons and then send some setters from your own country?

Archduke Rufai shall consider this offer...


The world has suddenly gotten on the kick where it's "Wrong and evil" to deport "natives" from their "rightful land". Bah! Libya and Mississippian Egypt are for whites now.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:16
We must colonise the impure parts of the world so that the white man may continue forth on the road to supremacy. Every colony the IFR owns is 100% white.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
22-07-2004, 01:24
The Emperor of ITD has already enacted a ban on all religions within the confines of ITD. Religion has been shown to be harmful to economies worldwide. ITD cannot allow any diety to take loyalty away from the state.

We are adding this religion to those banned from the nation. Send no missionary here.

-ITD Empire
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:31
Our religion is tied to the state. The Head Of State is the Leader of Rufaiism. We wish to send no missionary to you.

The IFR keeps clear of countries of questionable nature.
Josh Dollins
22-07-2004, 01:32
We are against anyone being forced into anything such as this, we demand that this action cease!
The Parthians
22-07-2004, 01:33
If you had any Persians we would have asked for them.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:33
It is not your place to tell me how to govern my country.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:34
We do not have any Persians. We have only whites.
The Parthians
22-07-2004, 01:36
We do not have any Persians. We have only whites.


Then send the Whites to Communist Mississippi.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:37
The Archduke is considering the offer.

You must understand why we are reluctant.
Chellis
22-07-2004, 01:42
Chellis asks Rufai not cave in to political pressure.

A nation have sovereignty, and chellis will defend this(according to the horatio doctrine).

Chellis also congradulates Rufai on getting rid of religions, and while it wish they became atheist, its choice is much better than any religion.

*secret to rufai*

We are willing to send you equipment and advisors to teach your men how to use it. We are very strongly against other nations trying to influence the internal policies of a nation, and we only wait for your acceptance of our offer.

*to CM*

You do know that transfering Mississippians to Libya is against the geneva convention, article 49? Im not sure if you are a signatory, but many are, just so you can understand why so many are against your actions.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 01:47
*to CM*

You do know that transfering Mississippians to Libya is against the geneva convention, article 49? Im not sure if you are a signatory, but many are, just so you can understand why so many are against your actions.


How so? Since Libya is part of Mississippi now, Mississippians are free to move to Libya since Mississippian citizenship allows free movement between the territories of the empire.

Also, we didn't sign the geneva convention, we don't even recognize it exists.


Also, we need to transport whites to Mississippian Egypt right now. We have enough whites in Libya, for now.

There are 21 million arabs in Libya and 50 million whites.

There are 30 million arabs in Mississippian Egypt but only 10 million whites.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:47
Secret to CHellis

What type of equipment do you speak of? We thank you for your support.
The Parthians
22-07-2004, 01:48
Rufai, would you be interested in attacking The Holy See ofCatholicism?
Chellis
22-07-2004, 01:49
How so? Since Libya is part of Mississippi now, Mississippians are free to move to Libya since Mississippian citizenship allows free movement between the territories of the empire.

Also, we didn't sign the geneva convention, we don't even recognize it exists.


Also, we need to transport whites to Mississippian Egypt right now. We have enough whites in Libya, for now.

There are 21 million arabs in Libya and 50 million whites.

There are 30 million arabs in Mississippian Egypt but only 10 million whites.

As I said, you may not be a signatory, but many are. Also, Article 49 says the occupier of a nation may not legally transfer or deport citizens from their home to the occupied land. Thats why its against it.

*to Rufai, Secretly*

Any real life equipment you would like, from russian or american, german or french, etc. If you dont have anything specific you want, we could make you a nice order of russian afv's and aircraft.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:50
OOC: I have seen the thread...I really do hate Catholic people coming on and preaching.

I shall consider an attack, I need to read all of it!
Seryown
22-07-2004, 01:52
Any forced movement of any people from their homes is a sign of tyranny that violates a person's basic right to privacy. Any outlawing of religion, no matter whether that religion has merits or not, solely on the basis of it being religion, is a sign of tyranny that violates a person's basic right to free thought. As such, Seryown is cutting off any trade between our two countries and urges all other nations to do so - if it isn't our business, then you don't get our business.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:52
***SECRET TO CHELLIS***

The Russian AFVs and aircraft would be welcome...All vehicles will of course be repainted in Rufai colours.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 01:54
Seryown, we do not need your trade. We have strong trade links with hundreds of other nations.
Chellis
22-07-2004, 02:01
***SECRET TO CHELLIS***

The Russian AFVs and aircraft would be welcome...All vehicles will of course be repainted in Rufai colours.

IC:Chellis will fully trade with rufai, and chellis is one of the largest manufacturing nations in the world. We are happy to gain new markets.

*Secret to Rufai*

We would like to send you 1,000 BMP-3's, 1,200 T-80UM's, 1,200 2S19 MSTA-S 152-mm Artillery pieces, 400 Mi-28's, 400 Su-30MK's, 350 Su-39's, and 2,400 An-94's. We are also sending 1,500 advisors, and 500 trainer aircraft based off of the Su-25, which can be used as light attack craft as well.

If you are interested in larger numbers, we are open to that too. We are also sending lots of ammunition. If you need anything else, just ask. Of course, the equipment is free, though maintainance costs will be up to you.

We do ask you keep the chellian F(Slanted 45 degrees right), as we like to show we are a large export nation. Thousands of nations sport the F on their vehicles, and we view it as a sign of pride.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
22-07-2004, 02:03
Note that we are not discouraging or working against the politics of Rufai. We appreciate the assurance that Rufai will not send missionaries or religious individuals. Thank you for your cooperation and good luck.
Belem
22-07-2004, 05:12
OOC: tag for IC response. Rufai what tech level are you?
Nianacio
22-07-2004, 05:22
Nianacio condemns these actions of the government of Rufai. Please consider giving the people the choice to move to Nianacio.
We must colonise the impure parts of the world so that the white man may continue forth on the road to supremacy.Are you one day going to try to colonize Nianacio?
OOC: This post was based on the assumption that Rufai is a modern-tech nation. If this is not so, please inform me and proceed to ignore this post.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 11:13
***SECRET TO CHELLIS***

We will of course keep the Chellian F on the vehicles you give us, and we are proud to accept your advisors. We thank you for your support and we await delivery. How do you wish to send them?

If you need any sort of supplies at all from the IFR, we would be glad to help.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 11:17
Ninancio, we are not an agressive nation. We are not warmongers and we will not attack any other nation without a reason to.

OOC: We are a modern-tech nation.
Holy panooly
22-07-2004, 11:20
We applaud this action. Religion is only poison for today's society.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 11:21
We thank you for your support Holy panooly.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 17:52
So how many people can you send to Mississippian Egypt?
Rufai
22-07-2004, 17:58
Hmmmm....I shall give you an answer by the end of the day. We need to consider how much damage would be done to the economy by the large exportation of the Christians. Some of them hold high positions within corporations etc, and we must consider the needs of The Imperial Fatherlands.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 19:36
Bump.
Chellis
22-07-2004, 21:11
*To rufai*

Chellis advises not giving any citizens to CM, you are not being forced to, we will make sure of that. We are sending the equipment and advisors navally, through the merchant marine.
Rufai
22-07-2004, 21:27
After careful consideration, we have decided not to export our citizens to Communist Mississippi. Our citizens are not cattle to be bartered, they are the people of Rufai.

***To Chellis***

We thank you for your support. Any port along the IFR coastline has been alerted and is ready to safely guide your equipment to shore where it will be unloaded and then sent to various training facilities and military bases. Others will be sent into combat fighting the guerrillas in the north, in the Mountains of Ash. Are there any particular vehicles that are more capable in fighting in mountainous areas and harsh winter climates?
Rufai
23-07-2004, 11:29
Bump.
Communist Mississippi
23-07-2004, 15:34
Occ- We still need somewhere to put our blacks. Right now the only other suggestion I have is that of Minister of Interior Arthur Frick, who suggests we put them in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, after weighing them down with cinder blocks.


IC- CM suggests you take the blacks and give us the whites, if not for our benefit, then for our blacks benefit.
Rufai
23-07-2004, 15:49
What exactly would a society that is PURPOSEFULLY 100% white do with the blacks? The Archduke suggests that you deport the blacks...To the middle of the ocean.
Communist Mississippi
23-07-2004, 16:11
What exactly would a society that is PURPOSEFULLY 100% white do with the blacks? The Archduke suggests that you deport the blacks...To the middle of the ocean.


We're trying to get something though. If we can use our blacks to appeal to bleeding heart liberals, we might be able to get some right-wing whites.

Empty out your jails of right-wing white people and send them to us.

Our jails are empty of basically any white people. The jails were never more than 15-20% white, and we gave all whites in jail the option of moving to a CM colony in Africa in exchange for their release.
Rufai
23-07-2004, 16:17
We will keep the ex-Christians and re-educate them. Any that do not respond well to the re-education will be available for sale.

We have very little people in our prisons unfortunately. Our policy on crime is "Crime: Do It And Die".

Many have been shot. The rest are being detained until the chambers have been cleaned.
Kerla
23-07-2004, 16:38
The Socialist Union of Kerla condems the Rufai government. We believe in respecting all religions. Banning religions only limits the right and liberties of your citizens. That is not the best action to take.

Stephanie Rosen
Premier
Socialist Union of Kerla
Finnish Technocracy
23-07-2004, 17:39
Seeing an opportunity, Archbishop Aosar of the Machine cult, leader of the Theocracy that controls Finnish Technocracy, sends highly trained agents to infitrate the nation and to start secret societies revolving around the doctrine of the Machine cult.

After establishing necessary conspiracies in key govermental elements the agents shall leave the country and proceed to their next target the ITD Empire, where in, they shall repeat the process. The agents are trained to commit suicide upon capture and carry no evidence that ties them to the Finnish Technocracy or the Machine cult. Should evidence of their faith be found Finnish Technocracy will deny any ties to them and claim they are extreme splinter groups that have nothing to do with the Technocracy and that they don't have the support of the Machine cult...

The agents infiltrate their target country by going into a neutral country, assume a foreign identity and then move into the target country under a quise suitable to the occasion.
Rufai
23-07-2004, 17:51
OOC: Finnish, please do not verbally rape my thread by Godmodding your agents into my nation and setting up secret societies *shakes head*

IC: Kerla, we respect your opinion. But in the Imperial Fatherlands of Rufai, the rights and liberties of my people do not come first. We are a fascist nation.
Finnish Technocracy
23-07-2004, 18:27
OOC: Finnish, please do not verbally rape my thread by Godmodding your agents into my nation and setting up secret societies *shakes head*

Ok, shall I verbally rape your thread in some other way?

Seriously tho, don't think that's exactly godmoding, I mean, they should then be basically beamed in from a damn star trek spaceship, now, they are doing to attempt to walk trough the borders with rather well make fake passports.

Now in a rather... Hmm... Secure land like Rufai, it shouldn't be a problem to identify the agents. For instance admittance into Rufai could require a request for to be filled some time before one can enter Rufai, now sending that form - with all the necessary personal information on it - to the country whose citizens they pose as and only let people in if the infromation is valid.

Also, since your "citizens are encouraged to report friends, family members or co-workers who seem depressed to the government for 'counselling'," it shouldn't be hard to identify a secret society either.

Bottom line is, I don't think I was godmoding, but in the end, it's up to you to ignore or whatever...

Also, before you ask, no I didn't have anything better to do, than to bother you with that ;oP
Rufai
23-07-2004, 20:36
OOC: Maybe I was being a bit harsh, basically what I meant is that all of the citizens have unwavering loyalty to "the Archduke" and fear him. For any agents to come in and start sowing seeds of new ideas would really result in a public lynching. The immigration process into Rufai is very complicated as well, we don't have open borders. They are closed permanently except with the permission of the government.
Chellis
23-07-2004, 21:46
*To Rufai*

BMP's are particularly useful for fighting a mainly infantry, aka terrorist group. The Mi-28's should be able to take out large groups of them, and is armoured, so it can even take near hits by Smaller SAMs and I believe some have taken hits by RPGs and kept going.

The Artillery will also provide useful for taking out terrorist camps quickly, once found.
Rufai
23-07-2004, 21:48
Excellent. Once tested and crewed with IFR personnel, they will send straight to battle the rebels in the moutains.