NationStates Jolt Archive

ooc: I'm founding this because I am so damn tired of n00bz stinking up the forum with their useless "I kill off the athiests" or "Selling slaves," or my favorite, "n00kz 4 sal3! n00kz 4 sal3! g3t ch3p3 n00kz!

ic: By decree of Harald, son of Gustav, lord of all Bonstocknians, the Federal Republic is contributing to form a new alliance, the Global Human Rights Initiative Alliance, or GHRIA for short.

The stated purpose of the alliance will be to end and prevent human rights abuses so prevelant in this world today, including genocide, slavery, child exploitation, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation.

The GHRIA will be open to any nation, capitalist or communist, dictatorship or democracy, so long as they have a reasonable human rights record and are willing to sacrifice for the better of the world.

Our hopes are that through the efforts of this alliance, a new era of peace and goodwill will occur in the world.

Members, so far:

Bonstock (founder)
Brydog
New Kingman
Morathania

I will join, About time somebody cared about human rights.

Official statement from Red Tide
Why dont you mind your own damn buisness for once!

Official statement from Red Tide
Why dont you mind your own damn buisness for once!

Because of you, all our hopes for a Japanese empire were destroyed! Had you not gassed the Asian Resistance confrence, we would have been well on our way to our goals before the AR could eve do anything about it!

The Republic of New Kingman would be honored to join this alliance, as the preservation of human rights is one of our foremost concerns.

Brydog and New Kingman, you are accepted.

MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
(OOC:Oh damn with it)
For your information Anthrax Gamma isnt gas! It is a Biological Weapon. Secondly... You planned to set up a "democracy", Democracies are weak, very instable... we wanted too use Japan as a forward launching platforms for our missiles!

The Federation of Morathania would like to join this Human Rights Alliance. We are happy that finally someone on nationstates is actually caring about Human Rights.

Chellis is saddened to see another group based on imposing their beliefs on other sovereign nations. Nuclear proliferation is one thing, what a nation does in its own country is another. Chellis will enact the horatio doctrine if this pact threatens the sovereignty of a nation for what it does only in its own country.

MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
(OOC:Oh damn with it)
For your information Anthrax Gamma isnt gas! It is a Biological Weapon. Secondly... You planned to set up a "democracy", Democracies are weak, very instable... we wanted too use Japan as a forward launching platforms for our missiles!

Yes, but with a Bonstocknian style guided democracy, Japann would be assimilated, and we could have actually realized our goals of a new Pacific empire. Thanks to your biological attack, the Azn resistance declared war on us, which has been the one thing that got in the way of our take-over.

A Mekantan Replicant seems troubled as it sends a message.

"Now, when you say 'Human' does that only apply to Earth Humans? And what about people that are just Human-like...?"

A Mekantan Replicant seems troubled as it sends a message.

"Now, when you say 'Human' does that only apply to Earth Humans? And what about people that are just Human-like...?"

Humans, elves, orcs, little green dudes, anyone sapient.

The Federation of Morathania would like to join this Human Rights Alliance. We are happy that finally someone on nationstates is actually caring about Human Rights.

You are welcome to our great alliance.

-OOC-

I take it a "They Effing Started It" arguement won't work. LoL


-IC-

"What if slavery was the most humane method of dealing with prisoners?"

"We have no prisons. Those who commit crimes against the Steel Imperium are either sold, or exterminated. Mekanta has always operated so."

The Mekantan AI fails to mention that torture is always an option... Especially when dealing with rebels against the Steel Empire...

After my discussion with El Presidente Horatio Sanz II, we, the newly formed nation of San Fierro, have decided that we wish to join this Alliance. We wish the best for our people, and belief this would be of great benefit to the People's Republic.

"Somos los mejores!"

I would join....wait....no, nevermind, Brydog is in the alliance. I'm with Chellis on this one. You have no right to say what is "right" and what is "wrong" in a foreign country, in which you do not understand their customs and beliefs. This alliance had better keep its distance from Euroslavia.

What's wrong with me, Euroslavia

What's wrong with me, Euroslavia



Does the nation Power and War ring a bell?

Oh, ya War and power, mmm So we were allies whats that got to do with this

I will gladly join.

Our representative to this conference deal will be Minister of Foreign Affairs Paul Stahlecker.


"The stated purpose of the alliance will be to end and prevent human rights abuses so prevelant in this world today, including genocide, slavery, child exploitation, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation."

Occ- Our nation knows a great deal about such issues as genocide, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation, as we've been a major force behind many of those issues at various times.

Oh, ya War and power, mmm So we were allies whats that got to do with this

The two wars between me and Power and War? He threatened to get you involved because you were allies. Power and War has some of the worst RP'ing skills ever and refused to accept any sort of attack of mine, that was made, although he somehow dropped nuclear weapons in my capital, which is in the center of my nation, and heavily patrolled.



OOC: My apologies to Bonstock on hi-jacking the thread.

Official statement from Red Tide
Why dont you mind your own damn buisness for once!

You play b'duz* with me, I play b'duz with you. Got it?

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The Kingdom of Weyr applauds this decision. However, we have found that such organizations either collapse under their own weight, or get involved in every petty conflict. As such, we will not be joining this organization at the moment

Sincerely,
Consul-General J. W. Gibbs

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*b'duz -- a game involving two persons standing roughly five feet apart and throwing large boulders at each other]]

#tagged...

I will gladly join.

Our representative to this conference deal will be Minister of Foreign Affairs Paul Stahlecker.


"The stated purpose of the alliance will be to end and prevent human rights abuses so prevelant in this world today, including genocide, slavery, child exploitation, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation."

Occ- Our nation knows a great deal about such issues as genocide, terrorism, and nuclear proliferation, as we've been a major force behind many of those issues at various times.

Communist Mississippi: We're not sure about this. Libya certainly is an example of your own human rights abuses. I'll accept you, in hopes that you can change.

Others who joined: accepted.

Communist Mississippi: We're not sure about this. Libya certainly is an example of your own human rights abuses. I'll accept you, in hopes that you can change.

Others who joined: accepted.


Don't forget what we did to our nation's blacks and jews (but it was all secret so nobody knew), also the secret indian wars, and what we did to the arabs in Mississippian Egypt.


Massacre of 4,000 Arabs in Egypt

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341002




Genocide and chemical weapons against our own people (rebels and guerillas though)

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=335848



Chemical Weapons used in Tennessee

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=340370



Interfering in elections of other nations

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339797



Calling for a conference to divide up Africa

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341249




Killing Indians on reservations to take their oil

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336291




Offering tainted water to the world for free

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341194



Making a butt ugly battleship that almost always capsizes when the main guns are all fired at the same time in the same direction.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=340990


Boy, that's a long list there, almost reads like an indictment. Oh well, we might change, maybe, possibly, who knows anything is possible.

We wish to participate in this Alliance.

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I would like to join!

This looks like a good alliance.

Main Ras Malik X of Mackia would like to join. I would like to extend my advice to the president of this alliance to not allow CM into this group for they will do more harm than good. I would also like to ask if the president could draw up a manifesto for the alliance.

Seryown will join, certainly - we will be happy to react with these nations against any national act of genocide, terrorism, or mass murder.

Do not let Communist Mississippi join this human rights alliance. He has been one of the worst nations when it comes to human rights abuses.

Do not let Communist Mississippi join this human rights alliance. He has been one of the worst nations when it comes to human rights abuses.


That was the old CM. Now that we have some colonies and we're a player on the world stage, you'll see how better CM is.

:)

How about you show us your better first and then we'll accept you.

How about you show us your better first and then we'll accept you.

How about you just save time and take my word for it.

Lets just say I'm not to trusting of others. You have to show that you will promote Human Rights Before you join this group. And to you changing I'll believe it when I see it.

Because you've got to earn our trust with such an appalling past record. El Presidente Horatio Sanz II doesn't like the idea of being in an organisation with you unless you prove somehow that you have changed for the better.

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Because you've got to earn our trust with such an appalling past record. El Presidente Horatio Sanz II doesn't like the idea of being in an organisation with you unless you prove somehow that you have changed for the better.


Official reply from Paul Stahlecker, Minister of foreign affairs, to your leader, "If you don't like CM, I suggest you stay on your side of the Rio Grande and keep out of CM. We don't have to prove anything to your kind."

Foreign minister Ricardo Chavez: As a compassionate nation, San Fierro has decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, and hopes that you will change for the better.

Official reply from Paul Stahlecker, Minister of foreign affairs, to your leader, "If you don't like CM, I suggest you stay on your side of the Rio Grande and keep out of CM. We don't have to prove anything to your kind."

Perhaps a move to show how CM has changed might be the restoration of colonies in africa to their own soveriegnty.

You can't just shrug things off like that, CM. You have a bad record and unless you seriously start making up for your previous wrongs, people aren't going to be very happy with you.

Perhaps a move to show how CM has changed might be the restoration of colonies in africa to their own soveriegnty.

You can't just shrug things off like that, CM. You have a bad record and unless you seriously start making up for your previous wrongs, people aren't going to be very happy with you.


Oh how convenient, we leave Libya and then the colonists get slaughtered and some other nation moves in and takes over. We won't betray our people like the UK betrayed her people in Africa in the 60s-70s.

CM will never abandon her kith and kin in Libya and Mississippian Egypt. We will keep our soldiers there and we will keep arming the armies of white colonists.

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OOC: Come on, we need more people for this thing!!

You don't have to abandon them, but you can always leave. Untill something good comes out of CM if they are allowed to join this alliace we will not join.

Having Communist Mississippi in this alliance would be as detrimental to human rights as having Libya being the head of the United Nations Human Rights Commitee. Which really happened mind you.

All member nations please read

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6599498&posted=1

Whitter is banning athiesm, and murdering people for their beliefs. We must act in the face of this. All members will give a warning to Whitter. If these actions do not stop, we declare war.

Human rights are illogical.
It is an inevitable fact that some humans are superior to others, whether that be physically or mentally. In nature, only the strongest survive and the weak who wish to survive must depend on the strong. A harsh reality I am afraid.
Human rights seeks to give equality to all but in truth; equality does not exist and cannot exist.
Why do you suppose to perpetuate the impossible, is it not foolish?

Spokesperson Surrok
The Intellectual Oligarchy of Think-Tank
"Solving problems is what we do."

Chellis is saddened to see another group based on imposing their beliefs on other sovereign nations. Nuclear proliferation is one thing, what a nation does in its own country is another. Chellis will enact the horatio doctrine if this pact threatens the sovereignty of a nation for what it does only in its own country.

I fully agree with this statement.

The Federation of Nataal, although a small nation, would be honoured to join this most noble cause.

All member nations please read

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6599498&posted=1

Whitter is banning athiesm, and murdering people for their beliefs. We must act in the face of this. All members will give a warning to Whitter. If these actions do not stop, we declare war.
You need to mind your own business and stay out of other countries' internal affairs.

Official statement by El Presidente Horatio Sanz II:

There has been a misunderstanding on our part about the purpose of this alliance. We thought that by joining we simply declared that we would not violate human rights in our country, we had no intention of attacking other nations who did. We have neither the political or military strength to do this and therefore kindly ask to be withdrawn before any harm is done.

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However, this violation of civil liberties is different. The religious freedom enjoyed in the nation of San Fierro would, I believe, in a perfect world be enjoyed by all. What Whittier is doing is a disgrace, and a dearly wish that San Fierro had a military force with which to drop this fool.

Official statement by El Presidente Horatio Sanz II:

There has been a misunderstanding on our part about the purpose of this alliance. We thought that by joining we simply declared that we would not violate human rights in our country, we had no intention of attacking other nations who did. We have neither the political or military strength to do this and therefore kindly ask to be withdrawn before any harm is done.

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However, this violation of civil liberties is different. The religious freedom enjoyed in the nation of San Fierro would, I believe, in a perfect world be enjoyed by all. What Whittier is doing is a disgrace, and a dearly wish that San Fierro had a military force with which to drop this fool.
Perhaps I should invade your nation. WHere are you located.

Despite the fact that we just left the alliance, El Presidente Sanz II instructed me to bring this to your attention:

This was found on the forum thread Whittier is using to declare it's mass genocide:

Communist Mississippi
Premier Fabus, Foreign Minister Paul Stahlecker, and Pope Pius XIII all applaud this effort to save Christianity from the threat of the ignorant heathen. We congratulate for doing what we did decades ago. (Christianity has been mandatory in my nation for almost 20 years. We allow people to pick the specific denomination. Most are Roman Catholic, Congregationalist, Christian Identity, or Southern Baptist.

We suggest that you kick their asses out, as they obviously have no concern for human rights of any kind.

Oh how convenient, we leave Libya and then the colonists get slaughtered and some other nation moves in and takes over. We won't betray our people like the UK betrayed her people in Africa in the 60s-70s.

CM will never abandon her kith and kin in Libya and Mississippian Egypt. We will keep our soldiers there and we will keep arming the armies of white colonists.

Well my nation takes up a large part of North Africa, and much of Libya. Be careful of what you do around there and make sure not to cross my borders.

http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/namenotneeded/newmed.jpg

Perhaps I should invade your nation. WHere are you located.


More Communist Imperialism? What a surprise...

Well my nation takes up a large part of North Africa, and much of Libya. Be careful of what you do around there and make sure not to cross my borders.

http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/namenotneeded/newmed.jpg



Guess what. Thousands of people have thousands of claims that others claim.

I swear to God, I am sick of people saying, "You can't own that. I do."

Well news flash, the Earth is limited in size. In the CM Universe this is what I own.



CM Possessions:

Mississippi (Which is 2,000 miles long by 3,000 miles wide)

Tennessee (All of it, but a nationalist and Anti-Mississippi insurgency is going on)

Libya (All of it, except for a narrow strip near the Algerian border stretching to the Mediterranean that Chellis owns)
4 new cities were built. All of the cities are on the coast.
"New Jerusalem" which is approximately 25 miles west of Tobruk.
"Fabus City" which is approximately 12 miles east of Tripoli.
"Christus Rex" which is approximately 5 miles east and slightly south of Surt.
"New Jackson City" which is approximately 12 miles north-east of Benghazi

Mississippian Egypt (Parts of Egypt, that include the cities of Alexandria, Damietta, Marsa Matruh, Tanta, and Siwah, and the lands up to the Libyan border west of the cities named)

We suggest that you kick their asses out, as they obviously have no concern for human rights of any kind.


I am investigating the matter and I will make my suggestions to the committee when I am done gathering facts.

I am investigating the matter and I will make my suggestions to the committee when I am done gathering facts.

OOC: Hang on, someone's got confused here, you're going to investigate your own statement about how killing atheists is good, and then maybe recommend to the committee that you're kicked out? Please explain

OOC: Hang on, someone's got confused here, you're going to investigate your own statement about how killing atheists is good, and then maybe recommend to the committee that you're kicked out? Please explain


Occ- I'm going to investigate the matter, determine that the media blew it out of proportion and that Whittier is a fine nation and no action is warranted.

OOC: Sorry, spose I gave away my noobishness a bit but I hope I didn't piss you off. Just thought I'd let you explain yourself before I said something stupid IC. I'll try not to interrupt with OOC stuff anymore ;) . Carry on

Chellis will not make actions against what whittier does in its own country, but if it touches an atheist in another one, there will be hell to pay.

By the way, CM, they mean give the nations back their sovereignty and pull out the settlers. Jeez.

By the way, CM, they mean give the nations back their sovereignty and pull out the settlers. Jeez.

The settlers cannot leave the promised land. They believe that Libya is the land God promised them. And they believe that the fact that every ship and every plane of colonists made it to Libya safely without incident is proof enough that God wants them to be in Libya.

Perhaps I should invade your nation. WHere are you located.

Your hollow threats do not scare us one bit.

Oh how convenient, we leave Libya and then the colonists get slaughtered and some other nation moves in and takes over. We won't betray our people like the UK betrayed her people in Africa in the 60s-70s.

CM will never abandon her kith and kin in Libya and Mississippian Egypt. We will keep our soldiers there and we will keep arming the armies of white colonists.

CM, face it! You messed the goddamn place up and now you have to deal with it!

This alliance will be nothing more than a joke if CM is allowed to join.

The People's Republic of Sevaris wishes to sign on to this agreement. We feel it benefits man as a whole.

For the People's Republic of Sevaris,
Yuna (Spiritual Advisor to Premier Mannerheim).

The settlers cannot leave the promised land. They believe that Libya is the land God promised them. And they believe that the fact that every ship and every plane of colonists made it to Libya safely without incident is proof enough that God wants them to be in Libya.

They can leave, you packed up the muslims, you can pack up your settlers. You just dont want too.

Bonstock, you say that this alliance is against nuclear proliferation as well - do you intend to go after every storefront that sells nuclear missiles, then?

They can leave, you packed up the muslims, you can pack up your settlers. You just dont want too.


"The whites cannot leave Libya, it would bring God's wrath down on us all!"

-Pope Pius XIII of CM Roman Catholic Church.

"The whites cannot leave Libya, it would bring God's wrath down on us all!"

-Pope Pius XIII of CM Roman Catholic Church.

I believe god is quite angry with CM already.

I believe god is quite angry with CM already.


Well Pope Pius XIII has already established that God is a White Male and supports his people.

(Occ- Our "Catholic Church" is basically Christian Identity)

So your nation is run by a gang of extremist wackos?

We stand by our original statement -- this alliance will collapse under its own weight, or be nothing more than an impotent gesture. Although we hope that it will succeed, it appears that the chances of this are not very great at the moment.

Sincerely,
Consul-General J. W. Gibbs,

So your nation is run by a gang of extremist wackos?


Oh it's not just run by, the entire nation is fanatical. Imagine 1+ billion Ayatollah Khomeinis except they're white christians. That is how fanatical we are.

In that case, I join those who ask that Communist Mississippi not be admitted into the alliance. What you do in your own area is one thing, but overrunning other people by outpopulating them is still an invasion.

In that case, I join those who ask that Communist Mississippi not be admitted into the alliance. What you do in your own area is one thing, but overrunning other people by outpopulating them is still an invasion.


Well then in the RL we'd have to say China and India are invading the world wouldn't we?

It doesn't matter if Mississippian women have an average of 13-18 children. What does matter is our lands are overcrowded and we need new lands. Which is why we took Libya and what is now called Mississippian Egypt. We have the territory we needed and now we're happy.

(Occ- We're not happy though, there are arab terrorists in the lands we mentioned, making life tough for the whites)

Bonstock: Are we being allowed to join this alliance as requested?

OOC: Forgive me, I missed the word 'intentionally'.

But yes, there are ways of dealing with overpopulation aside from conquering other peoples.

Well then in the RL we'd have to say China and India are invading the world wouldn't we?

It doesn't matter if Mississippian women have an average of 13-18 children. What does matter is our lands are overcrowded and we need new lands. Which is why we took Libya and what is now called Mississippian Egypt. We have the territory we needed and now we're happy.

(Occ- We're not happy though, there are arab terrorists in the lands we mentioned, making life tough for the whites)

Yes, but China and India aren't sending their armies into the world. You are blatantly and militarily invading other nations, they are peacefully sending their people.

Yes, but China and India aren't sending their armies into the world. You are blatantly and militarily invading other nations, they are peacefully sending their people.

And there are no nations other than china or india with more chinese or indians than the nations population itself.

We would be honored if Bonstock would allow us to join this GHRIA, for a long time we have been arguing the true virtues of National Socialism are not racist and we wish to put this into effect by upholding human rights across the world.

Yes, but China and India aren't sending their armies into the world. You are blatantly and militarily invading other nations, they are peacefully sending their people.


It's a war of cultures, a war of ideas. An unarmed invasion is still an invasion.

It's a war of cultures, a war of ideas. An unarmed invasion is still an invasion.

I don't see the Chinese landing troops on Brighton Beach [[NYC]] or trying to shove their Maoism down my throat. Don't justify it -- you're an imperialist, militaristic, fundamentalist nation.

Chellis will not make actions against what whittier does in its own country, but if it touches an atheist in another one, there will be hell to pay.

By the way, CM, they mean give the nations back their sovereignty and pull out the settlers. Jeez.Whittier supports chellis on this.

Whittier calls for CM to hold referendum in Libya to let the people decide if it should be part of CM or be returned to independence.
And no one better send any more spies or terrorists to Whittier.

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Whittier calls for CM to hold referendum in Libya to let the people decide if it should be part of CM or be returned to independence.
And no one better send any more spies or terrorists to Whittier.

Chellis agrees with this, except to add that CM citizens shouldnt be allowed to vote. The natives should be the ones to decide if they prefer being under CM rule.

Chellis agrees with this, except to add that CM citizens shouldnt be allowed to vote. The natives should be the ones to decide if they prefer being under CM rule.


We're currently performing an overhaul with our voting system. We had butterfly ballots but our studies showed that the average arab is hardly literate, so they cannot operate a ballot so confusing. We've appointed the Libyan Realm of the White Knights of Mississippi to get the new voting machines ready "With all due speed".

This is wonderful I would love to join! This is one of the best intitives I have seen yet on this forum. By the way if there are any Christian nations looking to join an alliance of such that is truly religious please enter the T.C.A. You can look it up or TG me for more information.

Vistadin would like to join this alliance. We would be honored to help preserve human rights around the world.

- President Viktor E. Kroshnikev