NationStates Jolt Archive

RULES:
Listen to each other unless you what to start a war.
NO STARTING A WAR HERE Please this is a no WAR ZONE
No COMMIE OR WHAT EVER WE CALL CAPALIST
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please post if you are COMMUNIST OR CAPALIST and what you hate or don't like about the other side and what you would not like to see on a form a from the other side has made.

And I want to make a some Allys with CAPALIST Nation
i have crated alliance called: UCCA (United Communist Capalist Alliance)
i am the leader but need 3 for each side will become the leaders/reps but the member only have to fit with the discripsion you are COMMUNIST OR CAPALIST (I will pick the frist 24 post)

Rules:
1. you don't sart a war with other members
2. you will stop killing the CAPALIST/COMMUNIST

Whats a "Capalist"?

a capalist is like US and Communist is like the USSR

You mean "Capitalist" and "Socialist"? Communism is simply Socialism + Fascism.

Its capitalism.
Soviet Leaders, do you even know the theories of each side?

Yes i do, in Communism every one gets payed the same and no insurience the goverment owns every thing in capitalism you get payed all differently and there are insurience companys that charge different rates oh did I say that they all so let the rich get richer.

Well i see myself as a capitalist.
Communism makes perfect sense IF IT COULD WORK!
But it doesn't time and time again it has failed. Thru money and rebelions.
However mankinds nature is to be better than other humans. And thus communism interfeers with it, I also stick to the routes of capitalism as I am british and Our bacon was saved by the biggest capitalist power on earth.
Plus winston churchill said it would not succeed and it didn't.
So im a capitalist. :sniper: (To anyone who is a RED!)

:roll:

I get a mental picture of the guy who rules "Soviet leaders" as one of those punks you see every once in awhile scrawling an anarchy symbol over everything.

You sir, are a moron. I wish you would move to Cuba and rot in disease, squalor and filth like all the other dirty communists.

Oh, and insurance companies sell policies based on something called "risk". It's the same principle as trading stocks.

By the way, let's see what communism has done for the world...

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB16A.1.GIF

This is also why an alliance of this kind between morons posting on here can not even be taken into reality.

Soviet: Go to a nation like The Federal Union, IDF, or Northrop-Grumman. Their the only capitalist nations I know who will work with communist or socialist. These capitalist nations who posted here are apart of the uneducated capitalist.

They think that communist want a war against capitalist. Even though we know this is not true b/c a majority of communist nations worry more about their nations people, their civilrights, and thier our own alliances and allies.

The capitalist that is a disease to NS thinks that we want to attack them when their not paying attention. They think that we are all Stalinist. What is really sad is when you take their civil rights and political rights and compair them to a nation like Hattia ,Communist Rule ,or The Island Rose. These communist nations have better levels then the capitalist nations.

If their are any capitalist nations who are NOT parinoid(sp?) and would like to start talking about alliances and trade then by all means please do so b/c I respect you more then a majority here.

Premir Bobby Jindal

This is also why an alliance of this kind between morons posting on here can not even be taken into reality.

Soviet: Go to a nation like The Federal Union, IDF, or Northrop-Grumman. Their the only capitalist nations I know who will work with communist or socialist. These capitalist nations who posted here are apart of the uneducated capitalist.

They think that communist want a war against capitalist. Even though we know this is not true b/c a majority of communist nations worry more about their nations people, their civilrights, and thier our own alliances and allies.

The capitalist that is a disease to NS thinks that we want to attack them when their not paying attention. They think that we are all Stalinist. What is really sad is when you take their civil rights and political rights and compair them to a nation like Hattia ,Communist Rule ,or The Island Rose. These communist nations have better levels then the capitalist nations.

If their are any capitalist nations who are NOT parinoid(sp?) and would like to start talking about alliances and trade then by all means please do so b/c I respect you more then a majority here.

Premir Bobby Jindal

I'm a capitalist and I'm not paranoid, I also work with communists/socialist who I have good ties with, get your facts straight. Also, look at my nation, its INTENTIONALLY evil, us capitalists like to be the bad guys! Its our role (well for me anyway :)) in NS, just like its your job to rant about how amazing communism is, we all fit together in the eco-structure of NS. :P

No i am not one of those. and i know that Communism has not worked in the past Russia was the brith place of Communism. But both are vary bad
Capitalism the pure form of it the rich can become vary RICH and powerful also the poor stay poor. and in communism in its pure form you can't own anything because everyone owns it. and the only rich people are goverment leaders and are in the soviet party. And the there are no rich (in pure form) This is what happen But russia made it work the USA made it go bank rupted in the cold war
becuase if it didn't work why would they have the bigest navy and i think that in WWII Russia came into the war becaues hittler invated russia and russia KICK them out and in that russia had alot of industery and the power to make the T-34 which could of beat the Panzer divisoin and also had so much power that the US was scared of it. But so was Russia never wanted to attack US they were scared that we were going to invaded

sorce historychannel and books!!!

OOC:

Firstly, this is in the wrong forum really. Discussions like this should be held in General. This thread should be about recruiting, not bitching about who's right or wrong.

But while i'm here:

Communism doesn't work for one simple reason. Human nature. People are too greedy, and there are always going to be those who want more than someone else. Its essentially all about jealousy. In NS, yes, communism works, but in RL, it doesn't stand a chance. Not saying it's wrong, just that it will never work amongst humans.

No i am not one of those. and i know that Communism has not worked in the past Russia was the brith place of Communism. But both are vary bad
Capitalism the pure form of it the rich can become vary RICH and powerful also the poor stay poor. and in communism in its pure form you can't own anything because everyone owns it. and the only rich people are goverment leaders and are in the soviet party. And the there are no rich (in pure form) This is what happen But russia made it work the USA made it go bank rupted in the cold war
becuase if it didn't work why would they have the bigest navy and i think that in WWII Russia came into the war becaues hittler invated russia and russia KICK them out and in that russia had alot of industery and the power to make the T-34 which could of beat the Panzer divisoin and also had so much power that the US was scared of it. But so was Russia never wanted to attack US they were scared that we were going to invaded

sorce historychannel and books!!!


Actually, it was the Russian weather and poor logistical support of the German army that led to the defeat of the Germans in the east. Had they been properly supplied with cold weather equipment, and not been fighting on two fronts, you'd be speaking German today. And the T-43 was good, but nto good enough. The Luftwaffe ruled the skies over Russia, and had the later German tanks, specifically the Tiger, been deployed against the Russian army in numbers, it would have been the end, and Moscow would have fallen.


Edit: Oh, and while Russia was the birthplace of communism, Marxism, the "purist" form of Communism, was the birthchild of Karl Marx, who i believe was in fact German. Communism was drawn from his writings, and his influence on Lenin's brother, whose name I can't remember.

Capitalist here. I don't hate communists, I just think that their system is flawed in that it has no effective mechanism for resource allocation.

OK I GET THE POINT!!!!!! I DON'T NEED 400 NATIONS TO GET THE POINT
FRIST I THINK THAT THIS IS MET TO JOIN THE ALLIANCE AND I THINK THAT IF THE TWO SIDE WOULD JOIN!!!!!!!!it would be a vary strong alliance










DO YOU GUYS LIKE NAZIS!!!????

DO YOU GUYS LIKE NAZIS!!!????

Depends if you mean the Hitler style Nazis, or whether you mean Fascism. I think they worked wonders for some aspects of Germany, especially their military and economic strength, but Hitler himself caused their downfall. I'm not for a moment suggesting that we should forget the holocaust, but if we look at the other aspects of the Nazi reign, there isn't much wrong with them.

As for Fascism, its no more radical than communism, just at the other end of the politcal spectrum. And it works.

are you capitalist if you are or aren't i would not mind being any ones ally













I DON'T LIKE NAZIS

No Soviet Leaders, I don't either. One thing you must remember, is:
Nazi = National Socialist

Capitalism isn't evil - it is just a system that is led by a free market economy. It has nothing to do with corporations taking power and controlling nations, or being opressive etc etc.

Actually, Communism wasn't born in Russia. Socialism, the stepping stone of Communism, was born in the French Revolution.

Actually Tyrandis, you can go to hell. The only reason Cuba is now a bad place to live is because of the US Sanctions placed on it. Otherwise, Cuba had a better Healthcare, Social Welfare, Education, programes than the UK and The US. Also, it had a higher life expectancy.

There are more doctors per person in North Korea than in South Korea. (Just a little fact about our favourite facscicommunist nations.)