NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This is a continuation of this thread:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338108&page=1&pp=15

all the war part of the conflict can be done here.

IC: Throughout Hallad Reserves and Conscripts were called up. The navy was out on high alert as was the air-defence network. The Halladi Regulars were mobilized throughout Hallad and its commonwealths.

BUMP

OOC: C'mon you Communists know you want to put Communism in Hallad again. And you Fascists. And Conservatives. Whatever. Want to keep capitalism in Hallad. So lets have a nice RP with lots-o-people.

BUMP

OOC: C'mon you Communists know you want to put Communism in Hallad again. And you Fascists. And Conservatives. Whatever. Want to keep capitalism in Hallad. So lets have a nice RP with lots-o-people.

OOC: I'd join but that would be conflicting our neutrality pact :)

OOC: I'm coming!!
IC: Ralaad is joining the war, calling up reserves and conscripts, and it's tank army in mobilising.

BUMP

OOC: C'mon you Communists know you want to put Communism in Hallad again.

Actually, I want elections in Hallad, not to install a government.

OOC: SHH! I'm trying to get people to join the RP!

OOC: I'm coming!!
IC: Ralaad is joining the war, calling up reserves and conscripts, and it's tank army in mobilising.

OOC: You should really state to the world what side your on. Even though I already know.

Count me in. I'll throw my forces behind Hallad, and help crush the dirty commie bastards :D

The LRRA will commit 1 tank division to the Hattian side.

PRSS Nemo, Nemo class SSK(FC)

"Captain, we've got a message coming in over the trailing antennae. We're to head to LRR immediatly. Further details to follow."
"Understood. Conn, set a course for LRR, best possible speed." ordered the Captain.
"Aye Cap'n. We'll be there in about 48 hours"
He then dialled the engineering department on the intercom, "What's the endurance on the cells?"
"About two and a half weeks Cap'n", replied the Chief Engineer.
"Understood. Start prepping them to be topped off tonight. That'll give us a good loiter ability"

Meanwhile at the Photo Interpretation Office (PIO), analysts were ordered to start looking for which port the tanks would be sailing out of.

Off the rocky coast of LRR, the crews of the coastal defense flotilla plow through the high waves and stormy seas, looking for submarines, ships, and aircraft.

The corvette Smokestack Lightnin', one of the 90-odd vessels tasked with the round-the-clock patrol and protection of LRR waters. The LRRN operates in two major areas; the sea of Okhotsk and the Bering Sea. The Smokestack Lightnin' was patrolling around the southern tip of the Kamchatka penninsula, not terribly far from the port at which a force of tanks was being loaded onto an Algol fast RO/RO ship for the trip to Hattia.

The captain of the smallish corvette looks out of the bridge at the whitecaps and grey sky. The outline of a pair of Quadrophenia class missile frigates- they always worked in pairs- was visible on the horizon several kilometers away. Judging by their radio chatter, they had found a U-214 and a Kilo in their cruise today, and were quite happy about it.

"Time?"
"Ten of five, sir."

Captain John Gradney wears a bright orange raincoat, over which is a large life jacket. His clothing consists of several layers of pants and shirts, and a fur cap.

"Its time to go in. Set a course for home."

Several hours later, the Smokestack Lightnin' reaches its home port, a inlet on the Bering side of kamchatka. Pulling up to the peir, the corvette is tied up, and the crew disembarked.

Operating from small, dispersed bases like that one means that if a special forces team blows one up, there's still 30 or so more to deal with. And they are certainly well defended too.

Each one of the 30 corvette stations is shared by two corvettes. The stations are well-dispersed, covering the entire stretch of LRR coastline.

The 5,000 Reservists from Maxentius have been removed from the desert. They were transported to New Dublin where they helped 800 Regulars prepare fortifications in the city.

Meanwhile Several Airfields are being constructed in the Desert where 500 local muslim Militia men are setting up defenses in the desert (AKA, minefields). Another 400 are posted as guards at the various airfields.

100,000 Republican Guardsmen were sent to prepare Erse (the only major city on the coast) to defend it for a possible invasion.

* * *

For sanitary reasons the bodies of the Hattian Commandos were taken down- along with the other Halladi-Hattians. The Halladi Government has allowed the return of their bodies to Hattia. In their place a large wall was erected with a mural of anti-Hattian posters.

Bump

The silence of night is broken by the whiring of helicopter blades as the AC-86 Fury lands on the New Dublin airfield. A platoon of green-clad spec-ops troopers step off. An officer steps forward to the base commander.

"Lt. Bedwyr, Sir, Cymry Brigade. Duke Gwalcavad noticed that you didn't seem to have and black ops troopers. You just point us at those Hattian insurgents and we'll do the rest."

I do think this can be done without conflict. I would also support new elections.






TO: Hattia
FROM: CL
We will support any actions of your nation comrade.

You know instead of typing all this bullshit about "I attacked your capital" i think you should guys should just duke it out on some online strategy game like starcraft or command and conquer OR SOMETHING. If you just have nations typing in "I attack this nation with my bombers" at total random, then there's no cause or effect. It's just really... dumb, sorry.

If you guys do duke it out on Online Starcraft or something, let me know. I'm in.

But on a political standpoint, I plege (should any ruled and controlled millitary action be committed), that i will stand beside the free democratic regime for I will not stand for Communist expansion, or any expansion for that matter. Marsaria supports the free choice of states of their socioeconomic direction, period and will not tolerate totalitarianism or millitaristic persuasion.

Concuring with the opinion of Communist Louisiana, I believe this also can be resolved without conflict... but it would be a lot of fun to kick your asses in a RTS game...

Marsaria, I would love to duke it out on Command and Conquer Generals. Let me and Hattia be on a team against some capitalist and we will show some military strenght.

The Humanist Republic of Grunge-France, always honoring its commiting to the causes of the humanity, is ready to fight back communism in any nation in any part of the world. We hope too that this will be fixed in a good way, and that reason will prevent weapons from firing and men from dying.

Because, that is what will happen if communism is instaured in Hallad: Communism in Hallad will mean a decisive Grunge-French intervention, we owe to the humanity the fight for liberty and fight for total freedom, which cannot happen under Communism.

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SUBURBIAN PALACE, HOUSE OF THE SECRETARIAT OF DEFENSE, MISTRAL CITY, GRUNGE-FRANCE:


Secretary of Defense, General Antonio Zavala: Yes, President?

President of the Republic, Monsieur Julius Randall: Commies again Zavala, I think this likely to happen crisis will help us calming down our people... bread and circus..

Gral. Zavala: Well Monsieur, you have the AoE2 Army at your dissposal: you tell me what to do.

President: Well, first of all, we need this to actually become a crisis...

Gral. Zavala: What do you propose?

President:Mmm... what is the quickest AoE2 Armada that we can send to the area?

Gral. Zavala: That would be... that would be the 15th AoE2 Armada. It is in port, in Quoz, but they are about to set sail to Kahla, to protect our ships from the blockade.

President: That blockade ain´t going to happen that fast, we will send other Armada. Well, order the 15th AoE2 Armada to prepare to set sail to Hallad.

Gral. Zavala: Only one Armada?

President: Yes. They are not going to fight, they are going to.. "difficult" the situation, put some pressure. Send the 15th Armada, but give orders to prepare the 16th, the 17th and the 18th Armadas so they can join the 15th if the situation requires it.

Gral. Zavala: Yes Monsieur. The order will be given in shortly, do you want us to ask Hallad for permission?

President: I will send a message about this later. Ha, permission, do not be ridiculous General, we need a conflict with the commies and we need it fast,right now is the only thing that avoids our citizens of jumping on us and overthrow or "Humanist" asses.

OOC: Yes, using a RTS game- unless you don't have any.

IC:

There will be no diplomacy for the following reasons:

1. They (Hattia) took it upon themselves to interfere with internal affairs.
2. They attempted to overthrow the Halladi Government because they believe in different ideologies than the People of Hallad.
3. Sent an Ultimatum demanding we change our entire government- a government which was elected.

OOC: That's wierd... should have been logged in as the motherland there...

Official Communicate from the President of The Humanist Republic of Grunge-France, his Excelence Monsieur Julius Randall:


We see, outraged, the development of situations that are avoiding people to be free, that are avoiding a nation to be sovereign, and that are avoiding the right protection of the human rights.
The threat of communism is a very important issue: the plague of communism must be prevented by effective actions, and with strong leadership.
Hallad people have the right to live free, the right to be democratic, and the right to have a government that respects the individuality. We will support that, we will defend that , and if needed, we will die for that.

What is important right now is to preserve peace and make a solid demonstration of force against communism. That is why the 15th AoE2 Armada has been ordered to set sail to Hallad´s waters. It has orders to have their weapons uncharged, and to only load them in face of flagrant danger. It only has orders to stay 7 kilometers away from Hallad´s coastland, as an important presence of support to their people.


The 15th AOE2 ARMADA:
Lead by: Comodore Johan Vikos (nationality: Quozian.)

Nuclear Battle Carrier "Ur Trade Pact"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Angelus"
15 Destroyers
2 "Etagelieux" Battleships
1 "Mistral" Battleship
13 Medium Frigates
4 Light Frigates
8 Anti-Air Cannoners
4 Cruisiers
5 "Ricochet" Missile Frigates
60 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
60 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers
10,000 marines



As you see, the Armada has no intention of doing anything, unless it is attacked first.

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Fine. Let us settle this matter using the finest game in existance: Space Invaders on the Jolt Arcade thing.


Yes, I'm that Shildonia.

I'd rather like to play a game of C&C against some of you guys, I'm not that great but anyway...

Hattia wonders why our terms were considered so unacceptable, all we would like is that Fenris' regimes, which by the way, is a dictatorship, hold elections at regular intervals. If a Hattian invasion occurs, we will not institute a government, but rather hold elections and leave. Otherwise, we are glad that the bodies of our slain comrades have been returned. They all will be buried with full military honors at the Heroes of Hattia cemetary.

Executive Building

"Mr. Andropov, it seems that the capitalists want a fight." Prime Minister Andropov tapped a finger on his desk. "Hmm, I don't see why our terms are so unreasonable, would they rather risk the lives of thousands of their people than hold election?" The Minister of War nodded, "Yes, I suggest we show them we mean business. Move the fleets into position." The Prime Minister nodded, "Yes, notify Admiral Brusilov, and send thanks to Communist Louisiana and LRR. And tell them not to fire at those damn Grunge-France ships, unless they are fired at."

Fleet en route to Hallad

Fleet Flagship: Leviathon class Battleship, Hammer of the Proletariat

2 Leviathon Class Battleships
4 Aleksandrov Class Battleships
6 Revolution class Aircraft Carriers
6 Kirov class Battlecruisers
12 Spear class Frigates
8 Bombardierclass Cruisers
5 Defender Class Anti Aircraft Cruisers
6 Sickle class Attack submarines

There was a second election, but the thread seems to have gotten lost during the transfer to the new forums. Not to mention that holding elections constantly is silly, because it would lead to changes of government every couple of weeks, which would leave little opportunity to RP with any degree of consistency.

The Second one was for Parliament. In that electiont the Communists got majority. But, because of Hattia's actions they have been arrested for Conspiracy to Overthrow the Government and replaced by Capitalism Now Party officials.

There was? Hmm, well, my memory isn't very good.

Anyway, I don't mean constantly or at any set interval, just whenever Hallad thinks is good, like I do would work. For IC reasons there should be a 'term limit' or whatever.

Bump

-AFTER HOURS OF TRAVELING, THE 15TH AOE2 ARMADA ARRIVED AT ITS DESTINY-


Comodore Johan Vikos: Open all the transmission channels, I want every person with a radio to be able to listen to my message.

Assitant1:Already done, Comodore.


Comodore Johan Vikos:

"Attention. This is Comodore Johan Vikos from the "Ur Trade Pact" Nuclear Battle Carrier. I am here with the 15th AoE2 Armada. I have served in many military campaigns, including the glorious defense of New Genoa, and I have been condecorated 4 times by Grunge-France. We are hear to give you protection from any attempt of establishing communism once again. We are friends and allies of the Halladian people, and we will fight for them if needed.

We are here to enforce the right of liberty that the Halladian people has. We are not seeking combat nor we will start combat, though we are ready to answer enemy fire if needed.
Halladian people: communism will not threat your lifes, I assure you that, and I promisse you that. If any communist group... or nation, is caught conducting any kind of suversive act, The 15th Armada will assume combat possitions and we will helpt he Halladians deal with the problem properly.
This is all, for the moment."


Assitant2: Well said, Comodore... The radar of one of our Cruisiers detects a formation of several vessels approaching to Halla, we don´t know their intentions nor their destination.

Comodore:Well well, I think that fleet´s real destination is our current possition... Let´s keep an eye on them... Order all our vessels to load weapons, and order to deploy 20 Golden Eagle Jets from this Carrier. I want them to establsih a security perimeter around us.

Assitant2:Yes Comodore. Which will be the lenght of that perimeter?

Comodore: 7 kilometers which is the distance betweeen us and Hallad´s coastland, and then 50 kilometersx50 kilometersx50 kilometers around us. That will be enough to cover all our ships and some space for manouvering.

Assitant2:Ok, the order has been given and the jets are leaving the carrier.

Comodore: Ok. Order them to attack anything that violates that perimeter. Anything. They will give 1 wanring, and if they insist trying to break the perimeter, destroy them.

Assitant2: Yes Comodore.

Comodore: Be careful though. We will NOT fire the first shoot.

OOC: Where is Halladi located?

Just a note, I'm going to be away until next Wed. starting on Friday, so I won't be able to post.

Hattian Battlecarrier Voice of the People

"Commodore, we have multiple radar contacts coming from the area of the fleet from Grunge-France." The Commodore tapped his foot on the deck. "I want a fighter umbrella over the fleet." The 1st mate nodded and sent out orders for the launching of the fighters.

Hattian Battleship Hammer of the Proletariat

Radio message to Grunge-France Fleet

This is People's Admiral Alexei Leningrad Brusilov of the Hattian People's Navy. We are here to provide the bastard Fenris reason to listen to our terms. If we are fired upon, we will be forced to destroy your fleet. Do not incur the wrath of Hattia, for none who have have survived.

OOC: Where is Halladi located?

In the New Roman Empire, of course.

IC:

Captain Hasan of the Akula-I Class Submarine Day's Night had been listening to the radio transmissions in the air for a while. One message from the Hattians to the Grunge-France Fleet near Hallad. He had his plan to get the two giants fighting. For now the submarine held tight.

CAER MYRRDIN; CAPITAL OF YR WIDDFA

"Lt. Bedwyr reports that most of the action has been at sea so far and even there no real fighting. His men are awaiting an assignment from the Halladi commanders but he says the defenses look well prepared. He will report should anything devolope." says Minister of War Duncan McConnal

Grand Duke Gwalcavad nodded as he looked over the reports, "Good, send my compliments to the Halladi government as well as to Lt. Bedwyr. Keep an eye on the situation and tell me the moment anythin occurs."

The silence of night is broken by the whiring of helicopter blades as the AC-86 Fury lands on the New Dublin airfield. A platoon of green-clad spec-ops troopers step off. An officer steps forward to the base commander.

"Lt. Bedwyr, Sir, Cymry Brigade. Duke Gwalcavad noticed that you didn't seem to have and black ops troopers. You just point us at those Hattian insurgents and we'll do the rest."

"Who the hell are you?" Says the man, looking clearly distinct from the native Halladi's. "Hattian insurgence? What are you talking about? If your here to help then help build machine gun nests or something."

It was night but stadium lights lit up parts of the city. The Halladi Regulars from Maxentius had been working all day, putting up bunkers, machine gun nests, protection of any kind for tanks and SAM's.

2nd Captain: Comodore, the enemy vessels have already identified themselves.They are the Hattian fleet, and we detect it now has some jets in the air, guarding the fleet.

Comodore:Yes I know they are Hattians, I heard their transmission. They seem determined to have a war, but they don´t want to start it either... Send other 20 jets to enforce our perimeter and issue a warning to the Hattian fleet. Tell them that if they cross that perimeter, they are dead.

2nd Captain: Trasmitting that to the Hattian fleet...Done.

****-**-*Message to Admiral Leningrad***--*-**
[ This is the 2nd Captain of the 15th AoE2 Armada. We ahve established a security perimeter around us, a perimeter of 7 kilometers direction to the coastland, and then 50 kilometers to the other directions. With angle fucntions, we have our orthocentre at coordenates 81´62´", that way you will now how to calculate our perimeter. There is another way to identify our perimeter: We have several jets protecting it. They have orders to take down anything that goes into our perimeter, anything. If the perimeter is violeted, it will be considered an inminent attack and we will respond. if the perimeter is violeted, a call for help will be issued to the Grunge-French Command Centre, so we will receive support from other AoE2 Armadas. This is a mission of Grunge-France using the regional army for Grunge-France dissolved its army a long time ago. If anyone attacks this AoE2 Armada, it will not only be an attack on Grunge-France, but on all the other AoE2 Nations. We suggest precaution and intelligence to Hattia]

End of Transmission.


1st Assistant: Comodore, there is an incoming message from General Antonio Zavala, Secretary of Defense:

General Zavala: Greetings Comodore Vikos. The situation in AoE2 Region is not good. Mexico has already sent a note of complain to Grunge-France, arguing that Grunge-France ahs no right to use the regional army in his own benefit and in its own "Crusade against Commies" as the Mexican message said. Kiwizeland also threatened with ordering its soldiers in the regional army to withdraw.

Comodore Vikos: So then I have to leave?

General Zavala: Hell no!... President Randall can deal with the other nations, but he can´t deal with a civil uprising in Grunge-France. As the anger of the other nations in AoE2 growths, so it decreases the civil turmoil in Grunge-France, and the people stop critising and noticing how stupid is to call ourselves "A Republic" when we have no congress and we have no elections. Comodore, this message is to DEMAND you a war. Only a war will unite Grunge-France and only a war against commies will allow President Randall to keep ruling. You give us a war, and we will deal with the other AoE2 nations.

Comodore Vikos:You will have your war... these Hattians are going to make a mistake sooner or later, and then they will start the war. By the way, prepare other AoE2 Armadas to set sail to Hallad, I think we will need them.

General Zavala: I´m on it... Well Comodore, I wish you success on this. Remember: the future of President Randall lies within your hands.

The commandoes went to work alongside the Halladi regulars in preparing the city's defenses. The men complained bitterly about doing grunt work but Bedwyr just smiled, "If there's ground action, boys, I'd bet my bottom dollar that it'll be here." He walked off to find the garrison commander.
He was shown into the commander's office and seated. "Sorry about the rather sudden appearance there. Guess maybe you could've used some more advanced warning. Anyway you need us to do anything just let us know. Seems quiet for now, though."

OOC: Map of Hallad (not including Maxentius, Northlands, or Island States):

http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Belovia/hallad_copy.jpg

It's about (give or take) the size of Saudi Arabia.

IC:

"No, we could use the help, so it's no problem." The Captain looked through a pile of papers and maps. Taking two out, he placed them on the desk.

"New Dublin is great city, may be the last attacked. We've been told that a paradrop is likely to take place in our around the city." He said, pointing to stratigic spots on one of the maps, which is of the local area.

"So, we are preparing many anti-air batteries. Flak and SAM's and we've brought up many Vulture SAM Tanks. We hope that if they do what we anticipate they will be taken out ebfore they land. However if they land around the city, we have plan too.

"Around the city it is desert, like all of northern Hallad with the exception of here. As the area around the city is more fertile it has attracted many of the Muslims in the area. And as such we will use them- most are conscripts anyway.

He brought the map of Hallad on top.

"The Hattians have a fleet heading to blockade Hallad near Erse. It makes sense, that's the only coastline in Hallad. Our fleet shall do all it canto stop a sea born invasion. But sooner or later they will break through, unless Allah is helping us. Well, that doesn't matter right now." He paused. "I'm sorry, I haven't intrduced myself. I'm Captain John Kronner, commander of this Corps. Battalion, whatever. And What's your name then?"

"Lt. Caedmon Bedwyr, sir. Isn't the Grunge-French fleet also off the coast of Erse? When I left they were there at least, just sitting their staring at the Hattians. Is there no way you can convince them to become more active in your defense? So is there no threat of a ground invasion then. I can see how the desert is your ally in that. One that size could swallow an army, but might they come from the South? As for a paradrop, from what I've seen of your defenses, they'd lose 75% of their men before any of them got out of the planes.... But maybe their willing to risk that... I've not dealt with Hattia before."

"Hattians... they're all bastards!" Said a voice from behind Bedwyr.

"Ah, General, I wasn't expecting you until tomarrow." John said as he stood up and saluted. "This is Lt. Caedmon Bedwyr, they've arrived to aid the war effort. Lt. Bedwyr, this is General Abdul, he commands the Northern Army."

"Yes. There's is a French fleet. And, these Hattians will fight them. But as for fighting Hattians ourselves, well, that's another story." He took a seat. Two Guards armed with M41A1 Pulse Rifles took places outside the tent. "We will have complete ground superiority over these Hattians."

Reply to 2nd Captain

We have no intentions of starting this war, however, you are within our blockade. Any ships, or aircraft violating the blockade will be destroyed immediately, we however, will grant you passage if you wish to return home and never return. And do not think this is the only fleet that the Republic can muster, you are fighting for a lost cause. Fenris' regime will be destroyed, and there is nothing you can do about it.

2nd Captain: Have you read the Hattian repsonse, Comodore?

Comodore: Indeed...

2nd Captain: Do we have a change of plans then? They are ready to blockade Hallad, and they will lock down us. We are 7 kilometers away from Erse. They do not need to violate the security perimeter to sorround us Comodore.

Comodore: I have never ran away from a battle. We will stay here, and we will let them sorround us. They can sorround us, but as long as they do not violate the security perimeter, we will not attack.

2nd Captain: All due respect Comodore, If we had dealed with the Hattian fleet since we noticed them approaching, we would have had the upper hand, but you seem quite reluctant to attack them, and they are being agressive Comodore, they are cornering us.

Comodore:What are you insinuating? I know my business and...

2nd Captain:They are winning time Comodore, and as long as we keep this defensive attitude, Hallad is in danger of suffering a massive offensive.

Comodore: Captain, shut up! I do not need your advise. I am aware of that situation, but just look this map: You see? the coastline is a gulf. That is soemthing that right now will benefit Hattia, for blockading a Gulf is very easy, as well as cornering an enemy fleet, as it has happened with us. But, Captain, we can use the same tactice...... The 16th AoE2 Armada and the 17th Armada are secretly en route. They are still far,far away from here, but they are en route already. They will not support our deffensive actions however, they have an entire different mission.

2nd Captain: I don´t get it...

Comodore: You don´t need to. 2nd Captain, look at this paper, read it, and then, trasmit it to the Hattian Admiral.

2nd Captain: ....what? this can´t be real! which side are you in?!

Comodore: Obey and do it! I have already given the new orders to the jets to obey this new disposal..


*****Message from the 2nd Captain to the Hattian Admiral*****
"We are here to protect the Halladian territory, to prevent any attack to its integrity. Now that we know your intentions are not to seize any territory or to occupy any city, but to blockade as a legitim weapon of pressure, there is no point in keeping with our hostil attitude. The Security perimeter has been reduced to 7x50x50x50 to 7x20x20x20, as a sign that we are not seeking any confrontation. Now that we have reduced our perimeter and you can advance more, you will have no problem is consolidating your blockade in this gulf. We are not here to fight against your blockade, unless it enters into our new security perimeter. We have acted to benefit you, we ask you, to prevent any problem from happening, to tell us how far away from our fleet you will stablish the blockade. Otherwise we will not respect that blockade.

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----Secret Message to Lt. Bedwyr:

This is Comodore Johan Vikos, Supreme Commander of the 15th AoE2 Regional Army. We have reduced our perimeter of security so the Hattian fleet can consolidate its blockade. While this might be seen as a bad movement, have trust in my good judgement. We have 10,000 of marines, ready to support your forces in case an in-land invasion happened. Lt. Bedwyr, transmit to the Halladian forces that we are on your side no matter what, just please, have faith on my good judgement and don´t be scared when I say that I want the Hattians to establish their blockade and corner my fleet.

We will stand by. If the Halladi people want capitalism, then however much we dislike it they will have capitalism. However, we must stress that any direct attack on an International member not conducting offensive operations will force us to commit forces to aid that nation.

Shessaran troops, led by our highest general Braedd Laeryn, along with 200 knights in Shessaran powered suits, have entered Hallad to reinforce those already there. They are marching for the capital, to reinforce the defenses there.

NEW DUBLIN OPS CENTER:
Lt. Bedwyr shook his head as he laid the Grunge-French transmission on Captain Kronner's desk, "I can't make sense of it. He says he has ten thousand marines but if he gets surrounded a lot of good they'll do us... I must admit they are buying us time though. I doubt the Hattians will try to land as long as a viable threat remains behind them and with troops arriving from Shessara, your position grows stronger every day. I suppose all we can do is wait and see."

If i ever got the Hallad capital, i'd just humiliate them for stating that it's a new roman empire as an insult to my ancestry. I'd demodernize the whole country and every Hallad citizen will all have their turns in a also a new coliseum against my gladiators with new weaponry. I loathe those who insult our ancestry just to look significant. But i apologize that Hallad barbarians, just like the the anglo-saxons and the vikings, cannot be any roman than the barbarian goths were.

I am not joining any war, just was making a simple speech. I guess you could call it a goodluck speech, haha.

The Hattian government is already engaged in an offensive operation by blockading a sovereign nation, not to mention their previous invasion of Hallad (which was thankfully routed by the Halladi security services), and their attempted air raids, and the bombardment of coastal cities.
Any one of those acts is act of war, and every single one of them is illegal under the United Nations Resolution Rights and Duties of UN States, passed on 24th February 2004. Should you attempt to assist your criminal friends in Hattia, you too would be in violation of this resolution. If anything the International should be seeking to distance itself from Hattia, lest you become tarred with the same brush as these war-criminals.

The Hattian government is already engaged in an offensive operation by blockading a sovereign nation, not to mention their previous invasion of Hallad (which was thankfully routed by the Halladi security services), and their attempted air raids, and the bombardment of coastal cities.
Any one of those acts is act of war, and every single one of them is illegal under the United Nations Resolution Rights and Duties of UN States, passed on 24th February 2004. Should you attempt to assist your criminal friends in Hattia, you too would be in violation of this resolution. If anything the International should be seeking to distance itself from Hattia, lest you become tarred with the same brush as these war-criminals.

except those not under thumb of the united nations, such as Dakara, who finds the UN oppressive, ineffective, etc. , they cannot be held to UN laws and treaties, as they have not signed in. therefore, they would not be criminals, as nothing is "illegal"

to Hattia: Comrades, we pledge our support to you, and will involve ourselves militarily soon.
-Premier Zukhov

OOC: IIRRAAQQII, was that IC or OOC? Because it made no sense either way.

IC:

New Dublin

"Hmm... Oh well, our navy has it's ways..."

"Worry not, Kronner, we shall prevail against this threat. The Empire shall not let us down." The general remarked. There was a silence that resided in the tent.

Erse

Several massive planes landed in the Airport- C-130's. Together they held a precious cargo, Storm Troopers from Heimlichsburg (you can check my regions messages board if you want proof that they're under my command). The 1000 men were soon put to work with the rest of the men, fortifications were nearly complete.

Near the Hattian Fleet

The Akula-I Day's Night had since been trailing the Hattian fleet as it got closer. With the boat now was it's sister ship, Night's Day. They were stalking the fleet, waiting for the right moment.

Refusal to acknowledge the law will be no more a defence against war-crimes than "I was only following orders".

Dakara's threats are idle. They're economy is weak and they're troops weaker.

OOC: Just so you know Dakara, your economy sucks. You only have $175,749,993,972.00 to spend on your military (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Dakara), meaning that Hallad can crush you with over seventeen times more cash.

On the other hand, Hattia has a bit more $$$ than Hallad, meaning that any war between those two would be well-matched.

Offical Statement from the Technocracian Communist Party:

We of Technocracia have long been observing the goings on in the troubled land of Hallad. However, now we feel it is time to speak.
It is time the current Halladi government steps down, in favour of the socialists who rightfully belong in power. We support Hattia's call for free elections in Hallad, as we feel the people must govern the country again. For this reason, if no action towards our wishes are taken, and the government of Hallad keeps fighting our comrades of Dakara and Hattia, we will join this conflict on the side of our socialist brothers and sisters. We will supply arms, aircraft, tanks and money to the forces already present.
However, if elections ARE held, and the people do decide without being intimidated or without any election corruption, we will accept the peoples decision. The Halladi government has 24 hours to begin making steps towards democratic reform, or else Technocracia will become involved in the interests of democracy, peace and socialism.

President Albert Brezny
Technocracian Communist-Liberal Party
President of Technocracia

[--tag--]

Wow, ta Tyrandis! How I missed this I don't know! *Trundles off, comparing nations*

Shildonia: Regardless of your view of the actions of Hattia, we are bound by a commitment equally valid as the UN resolution to which you refer. In addition, we argue that while the Hattian action may have been unpleasant, it was no more illegal than ythat pursued by your alliance of capitalist nations.

****************************Eldidd News***********************

Aderyn Brythonwen here for Eldidd News. Today Eldidd troops under the leadership of 'n dal cadridoc Braedd Laeryn entered Erse and began to fortify the city and the surrounding areas, erecting walls of sandbags, barbed wire, tank destroyers, and trenches. The massive Knights have imposed martial law on the outermost districts of the city, and it remains to be seen whether the Halladi government will object. Cadridoc Laeryn will meet with a war council and with Premier Fenris later today.

For Eldidd News, this is Aderyn Brythonwen.

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To: All commanders allied to the Halladi government
From: Braedd Laeryn, N' Dal Cadridoc of Shessara and Martial Militaris of the New Roman Empire.

I invite you all to meet with me in a War Council, as this campaign has long suffered from inadequate leadership and ability. Therefore, we need to meet to discuss our position and possibilities, preferably soon.

Hurry up, these bastards are angry.

Laeryn.

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OOC: I will make a closed RP if all of you allied commanders agree to participate.

Transmission to Shessaran commander:
I agree that a War Council is needed, though I am not entirely sure about the lack of leadership you speak of. We have so man generals and admirals from so many nations that a unified stance is difficult. I am not, however sure that Erse is the best place, being on the coast. Should the Hattian navy get wind of this they might bombard the city in the hopes of knocking out the allied leadership.

-Lt. Caedmon Bedwyr, Commander, Second Platoon, 408th Regiment, Cymry Brigade.

From: N' Dal Cavridoc Braedd Laeryn
To: Yr Widdfa Cavridoc
CC: All other Halladi allied commanders
Subject: Different Meeting Point

After considering your message, we conclude that perhaps New Dublin in Tier-Nano might be a better option for our meeting location.

Laeryn.

(. The 16th and the 17th AOE2 Armadas continue, as stated yesterday, their secret "trip", that´s all, till Hattia comes back.)

Message sent by Halladi High Command to N' Dal Cavridoc Braedd Laeryn :

We in the Halladi High Command agree to this meeting. We suggest a bunker complex in the Halladi Desert in Ryydra.

* * *

Halladi Rebuttle to Technocracian Statement

Hallad will not hold elections. It is our chosen government and we see no reason to mold it into something different. We do not object to your government, why must you object to ours?

Secret IC Transmission to Halladi Government

Tyrandis will provide all support that we can afford.

The 11th and 101st Airborne Divisions have been set on standby for deployment to Hallad. If necessary, we will launch a counter-invasion of Hattia should the situation become that dire.

The objections are raised because there is evidence to suggest that there was tampering of the elections to allow you to seize power. Whether you deny this or not, the suspicions exist, which is why your Government is viewed with equal distrust and disdain.

Message to Tyrandis:

We thank you for your support. We could use all the help we can get.

BUMP

"They're getting aggressive."
"You don't need to tell me that, Comrade Colonel." The Defence Minister took a drag from the coarse cigarette that hung from his lips, as it had done his every waking moment for the last two days. "They want a war. Stupid, but logical. They think they know they will win."
"We aren't going to intervene in Hallad, are we?" asked the Colonel pensively.
"No, we aren't. The elections may have been rigged, and the supporters of that Fenris may be a load of scum, but that doesn't mean we'll invade. But if they get too cocky around Hattia...well that's a different matter."
"We aren't bound to intervene, if they counter-invade Hattia."
"No, but we are bound to assist Hattia if they're invaded by a third party when they are not conducting offensive actions against that party or an ally of that party. I don't think the current Hallad...government" - he paused as if he had just felt a maggot wriggle in his mouth - "know or care."
"Well, we could show the flag," chipped in a Grand Admiral. "Send a few SAGs. Give them some surprises. They've not met the Yak-41M yet." He laughed grimly. "The free-range missile turret. And I'd like to give them a taste of the new Falanga systems."
"Let's hope that doesn't become necessary. There have been enough wars for the time being." He inhaled the smoke again. He had once been a healthy, happy man. Now he was dying, and he knew it, albeit slowly. But he would leave a land for his children to grow in. He sighed. "Sortie the Third Northern Fleet. Full warloads. And get our missile submarines to sea. Make sure nobody launches anything unless fired upon."
"Yes, comrade," replied the Grand Admiral. The Minister turned to the Colonel. "Make sure our satellite coverage is good over the area. And I want constanct checks on the OTH and OTH-B radars. If they launch a missile, I want to know about it."

N' Dal Cavridoc Braedd Laeryn was a fearsome figure, even without his mighty horned helm. Standing eight point five feet in his massive ceramic-plated armor, with smoke belching out from the twin exhaust pipes on his back, he looked truly invincible, a warrior out of myth. His genetically-engineered body allowed him to manipulate the armor with much more ability than most other Knights of Shessara, and it enabled him to carry the massive diamond-edged chain-pike that was his trademark. His rough-cropped brown hair and beard blew in the wind of Halladi's capital as he turned to enter the transport that awaited to take him to the Council, an APC with two heavy machineguns mounted on the front. A cloaked figure left the APC as he approached, and a frown crossed his face. "Prince, please return to the vehicle. They could strike at any minute. Besides, they don't know you're here."

Lt. Bedwyr poked his head into Kronner's tent, "You coming to the council, Captain? I've got a chopper ready. We ought to get going while we have the night."

"Yes, I'll be there in a second." He was putting papers, maps, battle plans into a breifcase. "There." He walked over to Bedwyr.

"Where's the choper?"

* * *

An Mi-8 Hip made it's way through the desert. It came close the ground and hovered. The side doors opened and several soldiers jumped out. Then Officers.

General Abdel-Alim and Admiril Hasan Ameen stpepd out and were shuttled to a mostly-underground bunker.

So the Alliance of Capitalist States has committed illegal acts has it? What would those be exactly? Piracy? Making aggressive war? Intentional targetting of civillian populations? Multiple violations of international law?
No. Wait. We didn't do any of that. It was Hattia who committed those acts. Last I checked Hattia was one of those peaceful law-abiding Communists we hear so much about in the propaganda leaflets.
The ACS is a peaceful body dedicated to mutual defence against foreign aggression and towards facilitating free trade between the member states. These are all legitimate goals dedicated towards peaceful coexistance. We do not murder civillians. We do not threaten to invade sovereign nations simply because we disagree with their form of government. We do not threaten to commit piracy against nations offering military support to the victim of foreign aggression.
It is the International that commits such acts. In the face of such a belligerent group of thugs, is there little wonder we must band together for defence? We merely fear that it will be us that will be the next to face Communist aggression. Hallad is the Rheinland, and the International is Nazi Germany. Your imperialist ambitions must be stopped here and now, else there will soon be noone left to stand against you. We represent the forces of good, and the forces of good always triumph over the forces of darkness, and so it shall be.
Every weapon at our disposal shall be employed in our quest to preserve the Halladi people's government of choice against the marauding hordes of imperialists that seek to enslave her populace in the name of the "great" Marxist Empire.

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In Shildonia, a further two Light Infantry Brigades, and four Expeditionary Air Wings are preparing for deployment to Hallad. (on that note: Shessara, check your telegrams and RSVP)

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Brigadier General Hackworth will be attending the meeting of Allied Commanders, along with the senior officer from the Shildonian Flying Corps in Hallad.

You performed offensive actions against forces sent to support a legitimate Government. You also rigged elections.

There is no proof that there was tempering with the elections. In fact in recent polls it whos that only about 10% of the population suports the True Directorate.

Curious that they retaind power for so long then, is it not, Mr. Fenris? Curious also how these polls were being held right when a rather large capitalist war-fleet is sitting nearby.

Defensive actions against an enemy invasion fleet protected by Communist Godmodery. You never were able to explain how your SAMs were able to succesfully intercept missiles flying 10-20 meters beneath their lowest operating altitude, nor how your jamming, which should have made it easier for my missiles to hit due to their "home-on-jam" capability, had the opposite effect.
I suppose we're simply playing by the Communist rules of Nationstates, where the Communist always wins, irrespective of facts.

There were also equally large, if not larger Communist war-fleets loitering off the coast during the elections. Perhaps the continued swing towards Capitalism can be explained as the Halladi people showing defiance and rallying around their leader under the threat of war from foreign supporters of one of the main parties. Your hamfisted attitude towards this situation has doubtless won the Capitalism Now Party more votes than any amount of vote rigging would have.
Besides, it was almost inevitable that Capitalism Now would win an election sooner or later. They were the Official Opposition, so it's not like they came out of nowhere. Their winning was essentially guaranteed to happen.
Not to mention that the people with the most to gain from claiming the votes were rigged, the True Directorate, has made no such claims. They took their defeat in good grace, knowing that the swing to the Right would eventually reverse back to the Left, and that they would win again, though whether that will happen now is doubtfull.

OOC: could you maybe make a OOC topic for this IC/OOC dribble? It makes the thread look bad.

They were travelling at Mach 3, which is the speed I actually stated originally. The only reason it seemed faster was because I made a slight mistake in my sums and forgot I was working in hours, not seconds. As a result the answer should have been 0.007 hours, not seconds. Mach 25 is possible however, as the Space Shuttle is living proof, or those rocket sleds used to test whatever it is they test.
The point still stands however, and I shall expand on why this is so.
It is unlikely that all your CIWS units would have been able to open fire, since escort ships are generally arranged in a circle to provide 360˚ of protection. If this was not the case, my aircraft would have simply flanked your escorts and sank your undefended carrier from behind. Hopefully this was the case.
Escorts also tend to be spread out over a wide area (perhaps 200square miles) so that the entire fleet is not wiped out in a single nuclear strike. This means not all ships would be able to fire continuously at the inbound missiles. Only the targetted ships would be able to do so, and once again we must draw the example from the Falklands War, where CIWS didn't intercept any Exocets (though I believe they were able to shoot down a couple of aircraft, which are larger, and probably slower). The Yakhont-3 is three times as fast as the Exocet, and is capable of manouvering to evade CIWS. This was stated in the link I provided with the missiles capabilities.
Also worth a mention is the Gulf War, where the USS Iowa was targetted by a Royal Navy vessel's CIWS. Luckily its armour was not breached.
The armour used is the same as is used on space craft, with two strips of metal with a gap in the middle. Spacecraft face impacts of a similar, if not greater force, yet they are able to survive. It is reasonable to believe the same would be true for my missiles, especially since not every bullet fired will hit.
CIWS is not guaranteed to hit, and if it does hit it is not guaranteed to do any damage, and if it does cause damage it is not guaranteed to be enough to destroy the missile. It's better than nothing, but not much better.

Since Hallad has requested that such discussion be stopped I am stopping it. Suffice to say I still do not accept that you would penetrate. It's over and done with.

Two T-4 transports and their escort of thre AC-86 Furies swept across the desert, below radar, with Lt. Bedwyr, Capt. Kronner and half of Bedwyr's platoon. He still didn't feel quite comfortable with this and wanted to make sure he knew it if something was about to go wrong.

As the choppers unloaded, Bedwyr ordered two squads to stay close to the bunker's defenses, but spread the others out a little ways out as a screen, just in case.

Bump

OOC: Hey Hallad, do you have a planned outcome for this or is it pretty well free-form?

OOC: No plan for the outcome.

As we, the Technocracian government, find Hallad's response to our ultimatum insufficient, Technocracia will now become involved in the conflict. We will therefore soon be in contact with the other socialist powers involved in this conflict in order to discuss aid and equipment we shall send to them. If necessary, we shall also send large numbers of troops to re-instate the True Directorate.

It is still not too late for the government of Hallad. If you agree to fair elections, monitored by a third party, then Technocracia will leave you alone. It is still not too late to prevent further loss of life. However, if you persist in forcing your dictatorship on the people, then we shall send troops.

Grunge-France regrets Technocracia´s will to interfeer in Hallad.
It is not still too late for Technocracia to stop making that kind of thrreats or to stop his plans of interfeering, so he can prevent his soldiers from having to face the Grunge-French 15th Armada that is guarding Hallad, and that will cause the death of thousands of Technocracians, provided they dared to set foot in Hallad.

I believe free and fair elections should be held in Hallad. I seek to avoid war but if it comes down to it I will back the position of Hattian and provide them with military and economic aid. If the nation of Hatti is invded they can rely on my full suport in repelling that invasion and defending the legitimate government. I am senting a small fleet of 2 destroyers and 4 frieghters to join the Hattian navy as a symbol of my solidarity with them. I am placing them under Hattain command.

OOC: This is a continuation of this thread:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338108&page=1&pp=15

all the war part of the conflict can be done here.

IC: Throughout Hallad Reserves and Conscripts were called up. The navy was out on high alert as was the air-defence network. The Halladi Regulars were mobilized throughout Hallad and its commonwealths.

Well, for calling me a fascist in the General forum, I'm declaring war on you!

The Island States is redeploying it's Doujin-class ship, the Freeport II, and her escorts to the Hattian lines:

1 Doujin-class vessel (carrying 132 F/A-18F Superhornets, 8 E-2C Hawkeyes, 8 EA-6B Prowlers, 12 S-3B Vikings, 12 SH-60R Seahawks, 4 CH-60 Seahawks, 4 C-2 Greyhounds).
6 Leviathan BBs
8 Ticonderoga CGs
12 Arleigh-Burke DDGs
8 Los Angeles-class Attack Submarines

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Speech by President Newman of The Island States:

"Hattia, our comrades in the United Socialist Republics (USR), are currently engaging in military action. As our countries are combined within the USR into one whole nation, we will assist them in their fight by sending a carrier group and mobilizing the First Combined Arms Army (1st CAA) under the command of General Robert Johnson for possible deployment. We have no intentions of violating UN law, so we will assist Hattia in possible combat against their enemies. If need be, we will land troops alongside our Hattian comrades and made our enemies pay in blood for trying to outmatch the USR's might. Good night, Island States."

Sgt. Cai MacAndrews looked at the latest reports and shook his head. He had increase helicopter patrols and watched radar constantly as he sat in New Dublin, temporarily in command of the Yr Widdfa forces there. Things were heating up, war looked pretty certain and unless Grunge-France had one good trick up their sleeve, the ground troops would find themselves cut off.

(Port of Freeport)

The Freeport II and her escorts left port, bound for the Hattian fleet instead of their new Shenzhou base. Fighter aircraft flew frequent Combat Air Patrols, searching for enemy aircraft and ships. Helicopters performed random ASW searches throughout the day, and the destroyers kept watch over the perimeter. As she began to disappear over the horizon, a dummy shell was loaded into the Freeport II's 30" guns and fired, creating a deafening boom that echoed over the water, signalling that she was going off to war.

OOC:

Well, for calling me a fascist in the General forum, I'm declaring war on you!

Please tell me your kidding... and you are a fascist! You want to ban all communist parties, repeal several civil rights bills and you think Martin Luther King Jr. is a traitor to America!?

at any rate, if you are serious then a large I.G.N.O.R.E. canon will fire at you. I don't RP with people who declare war for OOC reasons.

BTW, there's a map of my region attached.
Red: Hallad
Dark Red: Heimlichsburg
Green: Shessara
Gray: Ralaad
Peach: The Island of Rose

IC:

Announcement from President Fenris to Hattia and Hattian Allies:

"This is sickening. You have taken it upon yourselves to break UN Resolutions and interfere with Hallad's internal affairs. You using Imperialism to get your own way, but you have no right to even attempt it. Many of you are fighting to put the old government into power again. However they lost an election which you suspect was rigged. Unfortunatly there is actual evidence of this. The members of the True Directorate party are, however, terrorists. Trying to work with Hattian Special Forces as they break more international laws. Several weeks ago they were arrested. Several were killed. But let it be known that for those of you who will invade Hallad, that your attempt will be pointless. You cannot put into power what doesn't exist. As such, for each foreign soldier who steps onto Halladi soil, two True Directorate Party members will be shot."


* * *

As the Hattian fleet gets closer Hallad begins to react. From port the following ships left port:
6 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier (65 Yak-141 Freestyle, 30 S-3B Viking each)
6 Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyer
9 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser
6 Spruance Class Destroyer
6 Bainbridge Class Frigate
2 Iowa Class Battleship
6 Akula-I Class Hunter Killer Submarine
6 Seawolf Class Submarine
6 Los Angelis Class Submarines
6 Sacramento Class Fast Combat Support Ship

(Port of Freeport)

The Freeport II and her escorts left port, bound for the Hattian fleet instead of their new Shenzhou base. Fighter aircraft flew frequent Combat Air Patrols, searching for enemy aircraft and ships. Helicopters performed random ASW searches throughout the day, and the destroyers kept watch over the perimeter. As she began to disappear over the horizon, a dummy shell was loaded into the Freeport II's 30" guns and fired, creating a deafening boom that echoed over the water, signalling that she was going off to war.


You really should have mentioned your ships were still in port. You made it seem like they were already at sea. If I'd known they were in port I would have simply sunk your little battleship.

OOC: it surprising so many nations are willing to pull a Bush and invade a nation because they don't like the government...

OOC: I know, it's sad. It's also why I'm not getting involved. DOn't much like the results of the "elections" - and incidentally, were they rigged or not? - but that's not sufficient reason to go in all guns blazing.

IC: Again, we urge all parties to back down, and for independent third parties to be sought to oversee elections. If the Halladis want capitalism, then disgusting as that system is, they shall have it, for it is their right.

OOC: nope they weren't rigged. Shildonia merely got alot of his allies to vote. Then made an OOC comment about it. that's the evidence everyone keeps talking about. But it was an OOC comment...`

As mentioned in the other thread 'Plea for aid...'. Huahin will be despatching a squadron of D-71 unmanned suveilance drones. These drones are capable of speeds in excess of Mach 4 and send back information to assist Hallad to gain air supremacy. A squadron of fighters is also on its way.

Technocracia will not be frightened by Grunge France's meddling in the affairs of the proletariat of Hallad, who, as everyone knows, voted en masse for the True Directorate, who should be in power.

As of yet, we have not announced our own military operation, though if hostilities continue then we shall indeed mobilise our SUBSTANTIAL armed forces, and defeat the fascists.

The latest threat of the renegade rogue government of Hallad is alarming, however, let it be known we will not let this happen. We find it unacceptable that innocent people, with different political beliefs to your own, will be executed if we move troops onto your soil. Therefore, if you carry out your threats, be prepared to accept the GRAVEST RETALIATION, as we will not tolerate the acts which you threaten.

We offer our sincerest apologies and best wishes to the working classes of Hallad, our brothers and sisters, who voted for the True Directorate, the party which has brought their country prosperity and socialism, only to have this freedom snatched away by the evils of fascism. Rest assured, we will not allow the government of Hallad to continue the stranglehold on it's people.

Fascists? Where?
It is somewhat ironic that where the US once accused people of being "Reds under the bed", the Communists now accuse people of being "Nazis under the something that rhymes with Nazi".

Hey look, I'm back early...

The Prime Minister thanks our allies and responds to the Shildonians by stating, "Of course, the Shildonian government doesn't notice that the Halladi government has authorized the murder of Halladi's of Hattian ancestry, which is reason enough to invade, as we have stated via telegram to the Shildonian government. I however, state again that if fair elections overseen by reputable third parties were held in Hallad, we would leave, no matter the outcome. And to those who accuse us of imperialism, we have stated time and time again that we have no intent to annex Hallad, or replace their government. We only wish for democracy."

HNS Hammer of the Proletariat

"Admiral, it seems the Grunge-France fleet is withdrawing further into the gulf." The Admiral nodded, "Hmm, it must be a trick, why would they box themselves in like that. It could be to lure us into range of land based weaponry." Admiral Brusilov shuddered, remembering back to when his fleet got into a slugging match with land based artillery and took horrible losses and the desperate battle with fleets from Phyrric when he was pinned in between 2 fleets. "Hold the current position, we aren't going to fall for their tricks."

Nice to see you back Hattia ;)

-Please check the movements of my Armada so you can catch up.

Yeah, I got the shit sunburned out of me, anyway...

EDIT!

2nd Captain: Commodore, The Hattians are in the same possition, they are not acting accordingly to our movements.

Commodore Vikos (from the meeting in Hallad): They must suspect something... well, The other Armadas are in possition. It seems the moment has come. You are at charge, be careful. I will be back as soon as posible.





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After leaving port, the slow-advancing secretly dispatched Armadas decided to hurry up and group, instead of ther scattered possition that avoided them from being detected.
Now, only 42 kilometers away from the Hattian fleet, the 16th and the 17th Armadas blew away its disguise and secret mission to caught the Hattian fleet.

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2n Captain: hmmm... Now I can detect our Armadas, that means the Hattian can too. No need to retreat anymore. All vessels, start to advance towards the Hattian fleet! Do not fire until they have shoot first!

-And the 15TH armada started to advance and left its cornered possition. The plan to block the Hattian fleet with three fleets was on the road...



*16th Armanda
Lead by: Admiral Bernard Dou
Location: 42 kilometers away from the Hattian fleet
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Haltom City"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Kandarin"
16 Destroyers
1 "Etagelieux" Battleships
3 "Mistral" Battleship
15 Medium Frigates
6 Light Frigates
5 Anti-Air Cannoners
3 Cruisiers
6 "Ricochet" Missile Frigates
60 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
60 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers
10,000 marines
1 Transport with an Artillery Division
4 Supplies Vessels
2 Oil Supply Vessels


*17th Armada
Lead by: Admiral Gustav Vitrovski
Location: 42 kilometers away from the Hattian fleet
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Capitalism"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "New Genoa Defense"
15 Destroyers
2 "Etagelieux" Battleships
1 "Mistral" Battleship
13 Medium Frigates
4 Light Frigates
8 Anti-Air Cannoners
4 Cruisiers
7 "Palmer" Missile Frigates
80 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
50 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers
10,000 marines
3 Transports with 200 “Loter” Heavy Tanks

"Admiral, we've picked up sizeable formations of ships moving quickly toward us, and the Grunge-France fleet is moving toward us." Admiral Brusilov stamped his foot on the deck. "Damn, I knew this was a trick. Get the carriers to form up and surround them with the battleships. Get all of our planes in the air." Brusilov then went to the radio. After securing a encrypted connection to the Prime Minister, he said, "Alexei, we are going to be hemmed in, we need reinforcements." A sigh was heard over the radio, "Damnit, alright. The fleet from our comrades in TIS is on the way, I will also get Admiral Kirov's fleet on the way. And whatever you do, DO NOT FIRE FIRST!"

The Admiral hung up the radio. He looked out over the fleet. He heard the buzzing of huge flights of aircraft covering them.

Near approaching fleet

"Grunge-France ships, you are nearing water under control of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Hattia. You are not authorized to be in this area. You may pass peacefully but maintain at least 10 kilometers from our fleet. If you attempt to violate the blockade, you will be turned away, with force if necessary."

The flight of HASF-5s began to circle over the area, awaiting a response.

Vladivostock: Hattia

The 11th and 3rd Battle Fleets, under command of Admiral Kirov mustered their crews as quickly as possible. They began to make their way towards Hallad.

Meanwhile

Hattian spy satellites began to watch every movement of the fleet from Grunge France extremely closely.

The war is against who?

IN THE 15TH AoE2 ARMADA:

2nd Captain: Well Amdirals of the other Armadas, you know the plan. I am 23 kilometers away from the Hattian fleet, I have ordered 30 Jet Fighters to leave the Carriers and escort us and the Missile Frigates have the Hattian vessels at range, though they are not going to attack unless fired upn. We will stop 9 kilometers away from the Hattians.




IN THE 16TH AoE2 ARMADA:


Sailor1: Admiral! They are sending their planes out from the carriers!

Admiral Dou:Well, we will not. We have enough anti-air weaponry to face them, we do not need to risk our pilots, not yet.

Sailior1: Do we keep advancing?

Admiral Dou: Yes. we will stablish 9 kilometers away from the Hattian Armada, we will block them, that´s the plan. We are right now 19 kilometers away, so it is not such a big trip. Continue and stop 9 kilometers away, no matter what. Do not fire unless we get fired first.


IN THE 17TH AoE2 ARMADA:

Admiral Vitrovsky:

""Hattians, this is Admiral Vitrovksy. You have just been sorrounded by the AoE2 Navy, the strongest in the NS world. We are here to breake this blockade. We cannot let you go, for you will come back with reinforcements, and you can´t stay... Depose your ships, rise the white flags and surrender the Hattian Fleet. Otherwise, we will take it by force.""

WE will continue to support the Hattian position as a response to the genocidial acts of Hallad by first murdering Hattians and next killing Socialists. We, the Dublin Commune, are willing to accept any political refugees from Hallad in solidarity with the oppressed people of that nation.

"Apparently, you've never dealt with Hattians before. We will never surrender, if you wish to come and take our ships, I invite you to try. We fight for the world proletariat, and we will never surrender."

With that, all of the ships ran up their colors...

The ships formed up into a diamond formation, with the battleships on the outside and the carriers on the inside, along with the Bombardiers. The Bombardiers and Kirovs began to target the largest Grunge-France ships in anticipation of a battle.

Key
(F) Fully involved, militarily and otherwise
(M) Military support given
(S) Support either politically or economically given.
Italic Members of the New Roman Empire

Hallad and Allies
Hallad (F)
Heimlichsburg (F)
Shessara (F)
Ralaad (F)
Grunge-France (F)
Tyrandis (M)
Yr Widdfa (F)
DontPissUsOff (M)
Shildonia (M)
Huahin(S)


Hattia and Allies
Hattia (F)
Lunatic Retard Robots (S)
Communist Louisiana (M)
Dakara (F)
Technocracia (F)
Dublin Commune (S)

Just thought this might help, things can get confusing.

Wow, Hattia is outgunned...

OOC: You mistake me. I'm not getting involved unless somebody launches an attack on Hattia directly, at which point I am legally bound to aid him.

IC: Have none of you been following world events? A disastrous war has only recently almost erupted in Sevaris, a war that would have costs hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of lives, and here you all stand, bandying threats of annihilation around as though war is something to be entered into lightly. For shame, all of you.

-2nd Captain communication with Commodore Vikos, who was in the meeting in Hallad-

2nd Captain: -Commodore, the Hattians refuse to depose the arms, their ships are targeting just as we are doing... I have no doubt reinforcements are on the road...

Commodore Vikos: Mmmm... God bless us all... Authorise everyone to start offensive actions. We cannot lose this oportunity, we have them sorrounded… Ahh… God… starting a war is not easy… but…but…but the sooner it starts, the sooner it gets over.

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2nd Captain: All Armadas... start offensive opperations.
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THE 15TH AoE2 ARMADA

""Fire!!!!""

The Huge Etagelieux Battleships, speciallized in fighting against other vessels and escorting Carriers as they were doing in that moment, protecting the two carriers, opened fire against the enemy batleships. their 55 centimeters iron/enriched uranium munition was focused on the deck of the battleships.
The carriers were given the orders to release the 60 Jet Fighters, and as they were leaving, they had orders not to attack, but to defend the fleet from possible aircrafts. The Bombers were not released yet.

The orders to hit on the enemy battleships were also given to the Medium and Light frigates that were in a "V" formation at the right side of the Carriers. The medium Frigates launched three in a row ballistic attacks -for a total of 290 "Tar-980" Missiles fired upon the enemy battleships. The orders was tot totally decimate the enemy battleships. The destroyers also started hitting the Battleships and other outsider vessels with their medium sized balistic weaponry.

The "Ricochet" Missile Frigates, older than the new "Palmer" Missile Frigates present in the other Armadas, due to their incapability to target the well protected enemy carriers, launched a total of 50 High Tech "Tar-1000" Missiles targeting the Bombardiers inside the formation. The design of high-speed manouverin that the missiles had made difficult for the enemy to stop them. However, this was compensated by their lack of extensive damage. Their attack was supported by the launching of 35 "King" Missiles that the Cruisiers made, also targeting the Bombardiers. The King missiles were meant to cause a huge explosive damage, capable of melting strong materials, however, they were easier to stop than the Tar-1000 missiles by oportune intercepting enemy missiles.

The Anti-Air Cannoners were given orders to target the not too far away Enemy Aircraft on the air, and, along with the deployed Jets, they were ready to counter any air-attack
The Mistral City Battleship was ordered to leave the formation to a sector 4 kilometers away from the formation, no reasons of why were given.



THE 16TH ARMADA

Unlike the 15th Armada, the 16th ordered its deployed jets (35 of 60) to enter into the Hattian fleet and attack the enemy deployed jets. As they were entering, they were being hit by the enemy´anti-air weapons, but indeed find the enemy jets and a fight was started.


The "Ricochet" Missile frigates were ordered to launch a total of 66 "Tar-1000" to the vessels located inside the enemy formation.

The Destroyers, attacking with their medium balistic weaponry the outside vessels of the formation, targeted the Kirovs and launched 15 (one per Destroyer) "Tiran" missiles, who had the high manouvering of the Tar-1000, but were more damaging.

The anti-air weaponry in the Cruisiers and in the Cannoners were given orders to prepare to attack any incoming aircraft.

The medium and light frigates launched an attack of 300 "Tar-980" Missiles, who were less effective than the Tar-1000, though more numerous.

The 2 Etagelieux Battleships were given orders to hit on the outside vessels.

No bombers were released.


THE 17TH ARMADA

The 17th armada, unlike the 15th or the 16th, had the brand new "Palmer" Frigates that were given the order to target the HNS "Hammer of The Proletariat". the Palmer Frigates launched over 40 "Tar-1000 missiles" and 30 "King" missiles at the HNS.

The other ships in the Armada were ordered to launch their arsenal agaisnt inside- formation vessels, and so did all the destroyers, frigates and light frigates. The Etagelieux Battleships however were given orders to attack the vessels that were in the outside of the formation, and so did they.

The Cruisiers launched 40 "King" missiles at the enemy Carriers.
No bombers were deployed.
No jets were deployed.

The Mistral Battleship was given the order to meet the other Mistral Battleship from the 15th Armada, no explanations yet.


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A mesage arrived, via the "Hotline" secure fax, at DPUO's Defence Ministry.

"HATTIAN FORCES ENGAGED BY GRUNGE-FRANCE. POSSIBLE INFRINGEMENT REQUIRING ACTIVATION OF MPT."

The Defence Minister, the newly-appointed Igor Kazakov, look in dumbfounded shock at the message. It could not be. I just couldn't! And after we did so well with Sevaris! But they had no choice. Kazakov sent an aide to find the document detailing the MPT, praying it would not require them to commit forces. Regardless of his confidence in the newest weapons at his disposal, he did not want another war.

OOC: Wow. Grunge-France is kicking ass here...

Premier Jindal walks in front of the video cameras with his wife and his daughter on his side. He looks into the camera and speaks in his native french tounge.

Nos camarades de Hattia ont été attaqués par un mal facist le gouvernement de Grunge-France. Cet acte de guerre ne sera pas pris légèrement et sera vu comme un acte de guerre sur l'état de Louisiane. Aujourd'hui, la paix de 60 année qui a Louisiane graced est partie. Aujourd'hui, Louisiane est à la guerre.

(TRANSLATED)
Our comrades of Hattia have been attacked by a evil facist government of Grunge-France. This act of war will not be taken lightly and will be seen as an act of war upon the state of Louisiana. Today, the 60 year peace that has graced Louisiana is gone. Today, Louisiana is at war.

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Activation of all Louisianaian military forces and a declaration of war against Grunge-France have been approved by Louisianas Peoples Congress.

TO: Hattia
FROM: Premier Jindal
Activation of our armed forces begining comrade. We will aid you till the end.

TRANSMISSION TO HALLADI PRESIDENT FENRIS:

Because confrontation now seems certain, I am augmenting my forces already deployed in your area by deploying the 19th division (10,000 men) which includes the rest of the Cymry Brigade. The division contains one brigade of cavalry (light armor, basically Bradlys) and an entire wing of Attack Helicopters (300 AC-86s, armed with hellfire missiles and .50 chainguns). Simply transmit to General Elphin O'Neil the location at which you would like them to deploy.

Regards,
Grand Duke Gwalcavad, Yr Widdfa

"INCOMING!!!"

The Admiral saw the light from the launching missiles. "So it begins... Full retaliatory strike, we must break out. All ships, make for open sea, keep formation!"

The Etagelieux battleships may have been large, but the Leviathons were huge ships also. As soon as the enemy began to fire, they released a volley with their huge 22"/60 “Peacemaker” Guns, along with their missiles and smaller guns, while the smaller Battleships fired off their missiles towards the largest enemy ships, putting thousands of missiles into the air. Once their ammo was fired off, the crews of the Bombardiers quickly abandoned ship and quickly boarded the nearest other ships.

The Battleship HNS Freedom foundered in the water, her midsection ripped open by multiple enemy missiles. Her pilots, seeing that they wouldn't be able to land, turned and slammed themselves into the enemy battleships and carriers at full speed, sacrificing themselves for the sake of their comrades. While their wingmates either attacked aircraft on deck of the carriers, or attempted to torpedo the battleships. The Hammer's countermeasures, along with that of the other ships in the fleet managed to down most of the missiles coming towards the Flagship, though a few impacted over her thick side armor.

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Offcial Statement from the Prime Minister

I am confused at how our simple requests for elections in Hallad escalate into full blown war, however, war is forced upon us once again. As the forces of Grunge-rance fired upon our fleet without provocation, I am forced to acknowledge a state of war between the SSRH and Grunge-France. I will give them one chance to stand down, or we will be forced to destroy them totally.

Now, instead of war and the deaths of thousands, if not more. How about we settle this the old Hattian way. A duel to the death, 1 shot each. Now, I doubt the coward Fenris will accept this, as his honor is already non-existant. If I win, elections are held and we leave, if I lose, we leave. Either way, we will leave.

Prime Minister Alexei Haton Andropov
Prime Minister of Hattia
Protector of the World Proletariat


Note: The missiles that you launched, do they explode on impact? And HNS is a designation meaning 'Hattian Naval Ship'

Halladi Official Statement

The reason that this is all out war is because you have decided our government is not suitable for your needs. However, you did not object when the True Directorate did not have elections for over 30 years. Admit it- this is no war to put democracy in affect. This is to bring back Communism. Communism which the people of Hallad do not want.

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"Sir?" Asked a officer.

"Hmm?" The Captain of Day's Night responded.

"They have begun to exchange missilses on the surface."

"Excellent. Contact Night's Day. We shall attack the Hattian Flag Ship. Lets try to get the under belly, shall we?"

"Yes sir."

* * *

The two submarines pulled into range of the Hammer of the Proletariat, each readying Four torpedos. When they were ready they fired and the torpedos shot at the Hattian ship.

* * *

A message was relayed to the Grunge-France fleet about the arrival of a Halladi fleet. It had now arrived.

From a little behind the fighting the many ship approached. The Nimitz Carriers launcher 100 Yak-141 Freestyles to help defend the French fleet. 20 S-3B Vikings to patrol the area around the Halladi Fleet, making sure there were no enemy Submarines.

Parliament House, DPUO, the Prime Minsiter's Private Office, 14:35

"Terrible though it is, comrade, we are bound by the MPT. We must intervene to aid Hattia." Kazakov's shoulders sagged as he finished reading. Jones heard these words, feeling a ball of lead materialise in his stomach.
"So we must go to war again. So many wars. What posesses men to make so many wars?" he asked tiredly.
"No telling. All we know is that we have to intervene, and soon. Hattia's navy's going to take a pounding."
"I can't ask the Navy to fight yet another battle; it's being worked harder than any other arms of the forces. I know it receives the highest of all the budgets allotted to the forces, too, but we cannot keep telling our personnel to go off and intervene in foreign wars, especially not after we've just nearly lost 150,000 men in Sevaris."
"But you brokered the peace agreement there, didn't you?"
"No, I had a part in making it happen. That's not the point. The point is that the Navy will not accept this. They will ask questions. Am I supposed to send my men and women off o die, for the sake of a piece of paper?"
"We have no choice," pointed out the Foreign Minister, Schützer. "We're treaty-bound to send aid to Hattia, even if they did dig himself into this bloody hole of theirs. No choice in the matter."
"We cannot tell our men to go off and die for the sake of Hattia's unwillingness to compromise!" exclaimed Jones, causing Kazakov to grimace.
"We can't not send them off to die, unless we wish to be known as a country one cannot trust."
"So you propose death before dishonour, eh?" asked Jones scathingly. He turned to the window. "But the maddening thing is you're right. Order AV-MF South regiments to be ready for action. Ready Southern Fleet. I need a TF similar to the one we sent to Sevaris ready to sail within 3 days, maximum. IULLDES on all the ships if possible. We're going up against Shildonia again, after all, and this time I want to show them how a proper air defence system works."

The orders were relayed quickly via satellites and land-lines to Southern Fleet Headquarters at Kotin, and to AV-MF HQ at Rozhansk. Around the southern coastline of DPUO, Tu-22M7 and Tu-160B bombers were pulled from their hangars, their engines tested, anti-ship missiles loaded. AV-MF MiG-31MUs were given warm-up flights and any necessary maintenance. The pilots began to mutter to themselves about yet another action, but took it stoically, like they were paid to. Tu-142M2s cranked their great turboprops and lumbered off into the night, loaded with electronic warfare equipment, listening for the enemy's radar signals and feeding what they found via satellite link back to the AV-MF's jammer aircraft, whose computers then worked on jamming the new radars.

At Southern Fleet Naval bases, surface ships began to start up their engines. The whine of gas-turbines, accompanied by the heavier thrum of diesels, filled the once-quiet air as ships made ready for sea and trucks rumbled through in an endless procession, dropping supplies alongside each vessel. The submarines were the first to leave. They quietly slipped their moorings and moved out into the great open waters of the Southern Sea, keeping in touch by sonar telephones, and then diving for the journey to the area of Hallad.

And at the Plesetskevich Space Centre, a pair of large F-series boosters, formerly carriers for the SS-9 ICBM, were prepared for launch, to put a pair of setellites into an orbit that would take them over the Halladi/French fleets within 12 hours. One was a RORSAT, the other an EORSAT.


Southern Fleet Force "P"

Standard Anti-surface submarine Group (6)

10 Akula-III SSN
4 Sierra-III SSN
10 Oscar-III SSGN

Standard SAG: (5)

2 Kirov-class CGN
1 Kiev-class helicopter & V/STOL carrier
8 Sovremmennyy-II-class CG
4 Udaloy-II-class CG
4 Neustrashimiy-class FF
6 Supply vessels


Standard CVBG: (5)

2 Kuznetsov/Orel-class CVN
1 Moskva-II CVH (claos useable by Yak-141M)
1 Kirov-class CGN
5 Sovremmennyy-II-class CG
3 Udaloy-class CG
4 Neustrashimiy-class FF
10 supply vessels


SSBN group: (2)
6 Akula-II SSN
2 Oscar-III SSGN
3 Delta-IV/Typhoon SSBN

ETA: 24 (RL) hours.

Technocracia asks all nations to calm down. Becuase shots have been fired does not mean we must all resort to war. We can still resolve this dispute peacefully, without the use of weapons of war. We must not let the warmongers destroy any hopes of peace, which still exist. Technocracia is confident that we can still bring about peace without any further bloodshed, and we ask all nations to restrain their armed forces. We can end this without more death and destruction. It is time to put aside nations imperialistic aims and instead make peace. While there is still hope....

And what does Technocracia propose? A Peace Conferance?

And what does Technocracia propose? A Peace Conferance?


Well a peace conference would be a very good idea. However, some sort of cease fire agreement would probably be best first.

We are all for peace. We just finished, if you remember, negotiating a peace with Sevaris, where another immensely destructive war was about to occur. Indeed, if Grunge-France would be so kind, perhaps he could vouch for my wish to make peace in these situations. But unless we can agree upon it rapidly, we are bound by a legal document to aid Hattia. To show our willingness to pursue some kind of peace we will halt Force P before it sets sail, and will similarly halt our submarines. Our aircraft will not take off from their bases, except Tu-142s, whcih we will use to monitor the action.

Shessaran Official Statement
By declaring war against one of Hallad's allies, you declare war upon us all. We have no choice, then, but to declare war on Hattia. We call upon the New Roman Empire, using the title of Proconsul Militaris, to aid us, with the sole exception of the Island of Rose. Another hundred knights and accompanying retinues are on their way across the border, and we are fortifying the Halladi mainland against your horrible aggression.

Also, Shessara would be pleased to answer any honor duel challenge, as we consider dueling an honorable way to settle disputes.

Hail Hattia, and good battle!

Shessaran Official Statement
By declaring war against one of Hallad's allies, you declare war upon us all. We have no choice, then, but to declare war on Hattia. We call upon the New Roman Empire, using the title of Proconsul Militaris, to aid us, with the sole exception of the Island of Rose. Another hundred knights and accompanying retinues are on their way across the border, and we are fortifying the Halladi mainland against your horrible aggression.

Also, Shessara would be pleased to answer any honor duel challenge, as we consider dueling an honorable way to settle disputes.

Hail Hattia, and good battle!


Perhaps it is irresponsible to make this post, when we are on the verge of attempting to negotiate some form of cease fire?

I see, and I care not. Until there is a negotiated cease-fire between Hallad and Hattia, I will pursue war. In the eyes of the Shessaran government, Hattia is merely trying to run away from a war it cannot win.

OOC: If we do have cease-fire and peace conference, we should wait for Grunge-France and Hattia to declare their losses.

IC:

We in Hallad, however, do not find Dueling to be anything more than primitive piece of the past. Unlike your nations we in Hallad are not of Europeon ancestry and never had your feudalism or knights. As such, President Fenris will not be dueling.

Shessara: Hattia will sit there and get beaten if he wants, because it's what he does. He is not running away from anything, and you are merely attempting to goad all parties into further offensive action. Therefre, we politely request that you either put up or shut up, for the sake of Halladis, Hattians, French, and everbody else's people involved.

OOC: Note I'm doing this in-character. I would like a cease-fire, but I'm just doing what Laeryn would do.

Shessara holds to its statements and concludes that a duel would still be most welcome.

OOC: So am I!

OOC: So....

The Federation of Autonomous City-states would be happy to deploy one of our carriers to international waters to serve as neutral ground for all interested parties to meet and reach an amicable cessation of hostilities.

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, GENERAL ANTONIO ZAVALA:

We have received formal war declarations from Hattia and from Communist Louissiana. They just cannot deal with a nation ready to defend the independence of the people of Hallad. Anyway, we are not declaring war on Hattia nor on Communist Louissiana: Declaring war on them would mean we are against the Hattian or the Communist Louissianan people, wheras the reality is that we are in favor of the Capitalist Government of Hallad, a government that was decided by themselves and that only can changed by themselves.

As we speak, there is a battle going on in the Halladian waters. We have technological advantage, experience advantage and we also have numeric advantage. The Hattian fleet has no other destinty but the bottom of the ocean, for it is fighting against 3 fleets, each of them bigger than Hattian one.

We will accept any decission our allies decide to settle down this. But, while a final decission it is reached, we will continue our fight. Let no Hattian alive, till a ceasefire is declared, a ceasefire that will, if may I add, only benefit the Hattians, who know they have no other option to survive.



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(all missiles are explosive. All ammo are NOT explosive but some fragmentation kind and other drilling-type. The only ammo that is explosive are battleships´enriched uranium ammo, which I mentioned in the other post).



The Hattian fleet, totally sorrounded and being attacked by 3 different fleets, still managed to conduct defensive actions: The Grunge-French 3 fleets indeed had their loses, though the most important one was the attack of a kamikaze jet that hit in the deck of an Oil Supply Vessel of the 16th Armada: this caused a huge explossion, who caused a considerable damage to the 16th Armada.

GRUNGE-FRENCH CASSUALITIES:

-15TH ARMADA
2 Jet Fighters destroyed
1 Destroyer destroyed
1 Destroyer with medium damage
4 Medium Frigates with medium damage
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Ur Trade Pact" with its radar functions disabled.
102 crewmean dead

-16TH ARMADA
1 Oil Supply Vessel destroyed
3 Destroyers destroyed due to the explosion of the Oil Supply vessel
2 Medium Frigates with medium damage
8 Jet Fighters (the ones who engaged against the enemy Jet Fighters)
530 crewmen dead.

-17TH ARMADA
1 Etagelieux Battleship with medium damage
1 Medium Frigate with serious damage
25 crewmen dead.



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The 4 Transports that the Armadas brought, had moved away and reached the security possition of the 2 Mistral Battleships who left their fleets. The 4 Transports, 3 of them with Tanks and 1 of them with an Artillery Division, directed to Hallad´s coast to unload there. They were being protected by the 2 Mistral Battleships with 20,000 marines also to unload.

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The 3 AoE2 Armadas continued their attacks on the previously specified targets, clearly overwhelming the Hattian fleet.

-"This is the 2nd Captain of the 15TH AoE2 Regional Armada, I am at charge of the entire force you are facing. Hattian vessels: You have been outpowered, outnumbered and sorrounded. Surrender and you will be taken as prissioners, and your ships will be sunken. I let you know that killing a prisioner eqquals 2 years of prission in Grunge-France, so we will not execute you, we will only take you into custody. If you do not agree with this last hope we are giving to you, if you are so stuborn to not value the effort we are making to preserve your lives, we will then sink your vessels with you guys in them. This is your last hope"

And the Grunge-French Armadas continued pounding the sorrounded Hattians.

Tu-142M2 "Scarab 3"

"Captain, getting some voice radio transmissions, IEF, high-power. Getting it down." The technician flipped on the recroders and sat back, bored, to wait until the message was completed as the Bear rumbled along in thhe upper atmosphere. The completed message was relayed to the MoD.

MoD, Krasniy Novgorod

"They won't hold their fire." Schützer cursed the Grunge-French, the Hattians, the Louisinianans, everybody. Why the hell won't they just leave it alone?! Regretfully, he telephoned the Prime Minister informing him of the situation. The PM ordered the Fleet to resume its' journey. They would arrive in 20 (RL) hours.

...Suddenly, the 2nd Captain, after overwhelming continous attack on the Hattian fleet, ordered to stop the attack.
The missile turrets stoped.
The sound of the destroyers and battleships firing dissapeared.

2nd Captain: "All right Hattians. Now you know this is a fight you cannot win. If we launch another attack, it will probably be the last one you will ever see. This is the chance to surrender. We will respect your lifes and your properties, and you will be handed in to the Hattian government, but ONLY if you surrender. If you do not surrender, you will not give us other option but to send you all to the bottom of the Ocean. You tell us what to do"

If the Hattians fired again, the attack was going to be continued... The 2nd Captain was hoping the Hattians would surrender and stop this ruthless carnage... only time would tell.

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The 2nd, 3rd and 4th Armadas, who were in the Kahtian conflict, have been ordered to leave that mission and to direct to Hallad, they are en route, though Sevaris, their current possition is far away from Hallad.

Scarab 3

"Captain. Voice transmission. GF forces have offered a surrender of Hattian vessels. Recording now."
"Good, keep me posted", replied their normally taciturn pilot. "I don't fancy taking a swim. Everybody watch your interferometers. Might be a trick. There's no knowing whether they know we're here. And let's pray the bloody Hattians accept."

Admiral Brusilov sighed, this would be unprecidented in Hattia's long history. "Send them a message, we will surrender as long as our ships are returned to Hattia..."

He then withdrew his .45 pistol from it's holster. He did it for the lives of his men, but now he could never return home...

At the Red Cross outpost on the Dublin Commune border the refugees continued to flow in. They were met by a Red Cross worker, who gave them blankets, food and water and a government official who took their applications for asylum.
Red Cross worker: “These poor devils just keep flowing in. Members of the Hattian Population in Hallad afraid for their life and many of our comrade socialists too. We have heard reports that Socialist activists have been rounded up and sent to camps. The Halladian government is threatening them with death. Many of their families have fled to our nation and many other socialists who managed to escape the country before being captured. I hope Hallad learns the error of their ways soon.”
“Or someone teachs them a lesson” Said the government offical grimly.


The Chairman of the Peoples Directorate paced the floor. So the Hattians had backed down. This was for the best, it would save pointless slagauther. Better peace than death he thought even if he didnt like the Halladian government. Hopefully a peace conferance can be held, which will allow for the safe return of the Halladian refugees.

Scarab 3

"They've done it. They've backed down." The technician wiped the sweat from his forehead.
"Relay back to command." It was done quickly. Half an hour later, the Fleet stoppd in mid-ocean.

TO:Hattia
FROM:CL

The following fleet has been ordered to engage the Grunge-France armada with your request comrade. We are here to help get you out and maybe destroy a few French ships if necessary.

1st Red Fleet

4 Infusion Class Carriers
x100 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel's
x100 F-5 Tiger II
x75 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter's
x75 F-22 Raptor's
x25 S-3B Viking's
x25 F-117A Nighthawk's

2 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier's
x80 F-77's
x75 A-10 Thunderbolt's
x2 E-2C Hawkeye's

10 Silencer Class Submarine's
5 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
2 Los Angeles Class Submarine's(SLBM capable)

10 Inchon Class Mine Countermeasures Support Ship
5 Mercy Class Hospital Ship's
2 Emory S. Land Class Submarine Tender's
1 Observation Island Class Radar Ship

8 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's

7 Skjold Class Battleship
7 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleships
5 Leviathon Class Trimaran Battleship's

-Hattia, post your cassualities.



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Sailor3: Captain, the Hattians have surrendered, but they are not willing to let us sink their vessels.

2nd Captain: Ha! What kind of joke is that? They are in no position to negotiate... But ok, I don´t want to be accussed of warmonger... I know Grunge-France needs a war... well, President Julius Randall needs a war but... but I will not assasinate Hattian people if I can avoid it.
3rd Captain, open the communication channel to what it is left of the Hattian fleet.
-comm. channel opened-



" Hattian fleet, this is the 2nd Captain. You insist in letting the ships leaving to Hattia... that was not the conditions to surrender, however, I hav eno interest in being responsible of more Hattian deaths. Listen up, I will give you two options, now that you have surrendered: You allow our marines to board your ships and to take the survivors and all the Hattian personnel into our custody, and then we destroy the Hattian fleet. The second option is to sign this doccument that is being faxed to you right now:


Hattia recognises the superiority of enemy forces and recognises the need to solve this through peaceful methods, therefore, this will be solved through dialogue and not violence or unilateral decissions. The blockade will be over for no good can come from such an action. Hattia values the lifes of their men and will not risk then in such an operation. All the Hattian forces and its allies will leave the Halladian waters and will solve this through diplomatic means with Hallad and its allies. No hostile actions will be held against Hallad and its allies.


"If you sign it, you will be able to leave with your ships and no man will be taken as a prissioner. If there are Hattian soldiers in the need of urgent medical assistance, we will take care of them. If your fleet needs oil, fresh water or food, we will supply it to you. You will be able to leave with all the military honors that deserves a brave enemy"



"So there you got, these are your two options. We do not wish this carnage to continue, ut you will decide if this shall go on or we will solve things as reasonable governments that we represent, and we will sit to negotiate instead of killing each other. The ball is in your court, you decide what to do"

"Awaiting response"


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-The 2 Mistral Battleships arrived at the Halladian ports along with the transports: 1 Tank Division, 1 Artillery Division and 20,000 marines have been unloaded.


-The 2nd, 3rd and 4th AoE2 Armadas continue their trip to Hallad.

The hydrological research vessel Discovery begins heading in the general direction of Hallad, ostensibly to explore a nearby reef, which may be home to some kind of fish noone has seen before, like that really tiny one they just found.
It is an unarmed civillian vessel, owned by a company, which is owned by another company (repeat a couple of dozen times) owned by the Shildonian Navy, and is equipped for underwater exploration. Anyone attempting to wade through the paperwork and find out exactly who owns the ship will probably run into large amounts of creative incompetence on the part of the records people.

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With the blockade lifted, the PRSS Pogey and her escorts begin moving towards the Halladi coast to unload their accompanying ARG.

Grunge- France you are not totally superiour. Hatti has the backing of DPUO and CL. Even so I believe Hatti should try to find a reasnoble peaceful solution to this conflict.
If anyone attacks Hatti I will throw my full support behind Hatti. I am senting 3 infantry Divisions and an armoured Division to Hatti to help in its defence. In the case that they cannot take orders from me, I will place them under Hattian command if an emergecy arises. I hope Hatti excepts my offer. More military assitence can be granted if neccasary.

3 Infantry Divisions (Each 18,000 Heavy Infantry transported by trucks and light vehicles, 400 towed Howitzers and other artillery, and other assorted light artillery and support units)


1 Armored Divisions (Each 18,000 Red Troopers, 500 T-98 Tanks, 1,000 BMP-3s, 300 G-6 155mm SPA, 200 SA-19 Mobile SAM, and assorted reconnaissance vehicles)

This is not about power. If this was about power, Grunge-France would have mobilised the entire AoE2 Regional Army in a bigger operation than I did against Melkor&The Imperium and his Reich allies. THAT was a power-messuring situation.

We have offered Hattia two options after the surrender of his navy, and both options preserve the dignity and respect of its nation. Hattia is the one who will decide if we have to continue this carnage or not, depending in whether he signs the doccument or not.

We can use both force and diplomacy, and both in an EXTREMELY effective way. But we are reasonable, that is why we offer Hattia that option, and we are sure Hattia will not make any more actions that will jeopardise so many lives, both Hattian and AoE2 Regionals.

Dublin Commune, I would thank you not to shove me into a war. Hattia has the backing of me only because I am obliged to back him under the auspices of the MPT - and even that I'm not sure about. I don't actually support Hattia in his attempt to force the issue of Hallad's Government or elections at this point in time.

Furthermore, I have just managed to avoid a war which would doubtless have ripped out about 1/7-/16th of my Navy's striking ability, and have no intention of committing it to offensive or defensive operations so soon, with the exception of the CR situation, which, thankfully, is winding down.

I know capitalists often assume we want wars - something that is certainly not true of me - but for a Marxist to assume it too is saddening.

Added: And if this were about power I would have sent the entire of the Southern Fleet into battle with backup from something like 12 regiments of Naval Aviation bombers and another 5 regiments of support aircraft. This is not, as G-F has said, about power.

I as leader of the free peoples of scimara, declare our intent to aid our Halladi allies, whether through force of arms or through diplomacy. I belive we are better suited to the second role, but, if Hallad requests it, we will go to war.

-- This is a summary of the SDF force not dedicated to defense of Scimar --

25 elite snipers :sniper:
250 soldiers :mp5:
Assorted tanks, light mortars and light air support

-- One OOC note --
Before you say i am skimping on the forces i send to my allys, I will have you know this is a great portion of the SDF non-police forces.

OOC: Sorry, In my frantic reading I taught that Shildonia was transporting troops to Hatti in some kind of invasion plan. Re-reading what was written I do not believe my forces are necessary for Hatti anymore.

IC: Dublin Commune forces have been pulled back to bases in the homeland.

We thank Scimar for their support, but we will not need military support. While is greatly appreciated we do not wish to bring a young nation like yourself with much potential into the hazards of war. Thank you and may Allah be with you.

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How sad. We are trying to make peace and CL continues to show agression. We kindly as that the Louisian Fleet headed toward Hallad stop as we are trying to institute peace.

Understood Hallad, Good Hope to you in this war.

As a sign that Yr Widdfa is fully behind this peace process we will be withdrawing the additional troops recently sent and leaving only the original Special Operations force. The 19th division shall remain on high alert and ready to go into action at the first need should the peace talks fail.

Shessara will abide by the result of the conference, but only if Laeryn is included with the full dignity of the Shessaran-held office of Proconsul Militaris of the New Roman Empire. Otherwise they will merely hold on defense, and consider Hattia hostile.

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Our offer to provide neutral ground for a peace conference still stands.

If Communist Lousiana enters into Halladian waters, it will be considered a hostile actions and it will condemn the Hattian fleet we have sorrounded, fir it will be considered as breaking the neogtiations we are making with Hattia to solve this and save the lives of the Hattian soldiers.

So, Communist Louissiana, on behalf of the peace and of the Hattian survivors, please, do not enter into Halladian waters. We are trying to find a peaceful way to solve this and if you enter, you will spoil it.

-Awaiting yet for the Hattian response to see whether it takes the first option or the second option we offered them-

-The 2nd, 3rd and 4th AoE2 Armadas are still en route to Hallad-

Grunge-France, given the volume of naval power already present on your side in the vicinity of Hallad, we question whether this is wise. Further committing of forces will force upon us the resumption of the Force P's journey, purely because from our standpoint it appears you are committing ever heavier forces to finish Hattia and/or any other Communist forces in the area off.

Brusilov read over the document. Begrudgingly he signed it and faxed it back over. Below his signature, he added a note.


I, Supreme Commander of all forces of the Hattian People's Navy cannot guarantee that forces not under my command will not take action against the illegitimate regime of the bastard Fenris. If you must have that guarantee, you will have to wait for the Hattian people to ratify this document.


And over the radio, he said. "We will not bear the dishonor of accepting... charity, from our enemies. This will be our last communication."

And with that, he put his pistol to his head and said, "Daskov mas sonofal..." and pulled the trigger...

Message from the Prime Minister to Fenris

Ah, but do your people not have a sence of honor. It seems you are willing to sacrifice the lives of your children so you may maintain power. But, if you would please answer this question. If the people love you so much, why would you feel threatened by an election?

But I guarantee you, your allies will not be able to protect you forever. When the opportunity presents itself, we will pounce, like a wolf in the night.

Casualties:

All Bombardiers
2 Kirov Battlecrusiers
3 Aleksandrov class Battleships
1 Ice Storm class Battlecarrier: Heavily damaged
2 Leviathon class Heavy Battleships: Heavily Damaged
2 Freedom class Carriers
75 HASF-4As
37 Sea Snake Torpedo Bombers
3455 Sailors
863 Marines

I have no fear. When I was elected it was done with the knowledge that election would end. So, those who voted for me did so because they tired of the communist system. And now that that has happened Hallad's is growing ever-higher.

So, tell me, if the people of Hallad felt it was a good decision to elect me, and according to the press, which is no longer state owned, they still support me, why even bother?

If the press is no longer state-owned, it is owned, I presume, by corporations, who have a very obvious advantage to be gained by keeping you in power. Not only that, but you have still yet to account for the sudden upturn in your votes after you began to lose to the True Directorate. No, this does not mean we are going to undertake military action against you, contrary to what the capitalist propaganda machines will doubtless pour from their mouths, but nonetheless, certain questions surround your leadership.

The Press can easily be manipulated, for example. The Haton Chronicle sung the praises of our glorious Tsar, Yevgeny the Murderer, thanks to his thugs. While the Hattian people starved to death and were slaughtered by the millions. And why?

Why not? The Halladi people will win. We will leave and not trouble you again, but I forgot. You are willing to have your people die to defend your pathetic skin, when single combat would be much easier (And much cheaper, I know how you capitalists love money) You are quite obviously afraid of your death, I find that rather amusing.

The Dublin Commune hopes for peace in the world. We hope that Hatti diplomatically sorts out the conflict. We also hope for a free and democratic Hallad. We hope that some time in the near future Hallad holds elections, which could be supervised by neutral parties to make sure they are free and fair. We also wish that Hallad respects the human rights and freedoms of all its citizens and that Halladian refugees in the Dublin Commune can return home with their safety guaranteed.

DPUO, do not worry we will not pull you into a war if we can help it. We are not on a mission for death and glory but we do want to spread the principles of respect of life and democracy. We were momentarily worried that someone was about to invade Hatti and acted hastily but we returned our forces to our home when we realised there was no threat. Our nation is not interested in a vain show of power either.

The Press can easily be manipulated, for example. The Haton Chronicle sung the praises of our glorious Tsar, Yevgeny the Murderer, thanks to his thugs. While the Hattian people starved to death and were slaughtered by the millions. And why?

Why not? The Halladi people will win. We will leave and not trouble you again, but I forgot. You are willing to have your people die to defend your pathetic skin, when single combat would be much easier (And much cheaper, I know how you capitalists love money) You are quite obviously afraid of your death, I find that rather amusing.

The Halladi people do not defend me, they defend themselves from your Imperialism. From your Communism, which they don't want. And I still refuse to partake in your primitive and un civilised 'duel'.

The Dublin Commune hopes for peace in the world. We hope that Hatti diplomatically sorts out the conflict. We also hope for a free and democratic Hallad. We hope that some time in the near future Hallad holds elections, which could be supervised by neutral parties to make sure they are free and fair. We also wish that Hallad respects the human rights and freedoms of all its citizens and that Halladian refugees in the Dublin Commune can return home with their safety guaranteed.


OOC: since when were there Halladi Refugees in the Dublin Commune? Just 'cause you offered it, don't mean they're gonna leave.

"How many times do I have to say this? We have never had any intentions of setting up a leftist government. We only wanted elections to be held and for genocide to stop."

What genocide? The Halladi Government has never killed mass ammount of people for political reason. We have never done it with small ammount either. Your claims have no evidence to support them.

Also, you have no right to enforce your belief in democracy in our nation.

the Halladi parliament legalised the murder of any Halladi citizen of Hattian ethnicity

And, we did not attempt to enforce democracy, we attempted to persuade. And don't forget, it was your ally that started this war.

Hallad threatened to begin killing members of the True Directorate. This meant that many of them who were not imprisoned fled to the Dublin Commune along with families of those already imprisoned who also feared for their safety. Halladians and Hattian descent also fled to our country for fear of reprisal if war occurred.

OOC: I told in an earlier post how Halladian refugees were arriving in my nation.

OOC: You don't have control over the Halladi people. They're content with staying in Hallad. If you wanna object, then the I.G.N.O.R.E. will fire at you.

Oh, and in 'Breakdown in the Imperium' I said they were all arrested.

IC:

So the Dublin Commune does not believe in putting Terrorists in Prison? That's what the True Directorate is. A Terrorist Organization.

And, we did not attempt to enforce democracy, we attempted to persuade.

You attempted to 'persuade' us with a show of force.

Yes, common murders can kill Hattians in Hallad. Just like any Hattian Agencies are encouraged to attempt assasination on our elected leader. The only Hattians killed by the Halladi Government were terrorists.

Ah, so innocent civilians who migrated during our period of friendship are terrorists?

Would you like us to execute Halladi's found in Hattia.

And agencies being encouraged to kill our enemies is nothing special. I am sure if you got a chance, you'd kill our Prime Minister...

-Communication with Commodore Vikos, that is in the meeting-

2nd Captain: The Hattian fleet refuses to sign the document, shall we proceed to take the survivors as prissioners?

Commodore Vikos: Now that our president has got its victory over commies and now that the people in Grunge-France are cheering and not revolting against him... we have no other interest in the Hattians, as long as Hallad´s sovereignty is respected... Why...why the Hattians refuse to stop this? If they simply signed the document, we would all go home... but no... it is obvious Hattia still wants to interfeer in Hallad... ahh... well.... if they refused to sign the document, then we shall continue... God knows we have done what what we could to let go the Hattians of this problem, God knows it... Proceed to capture the enemy fleet.

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2nd Captain:

"This is the 2nd Captain. Hattian fleet, you were offered two options, one for a parcial peace, the other for a permanent peace. You decided the parcial peace. Letting you go right now will mean that you will be free to kill more Grunge-French soldiers. Killing you would be a crime that our country is not willing to enforce."

"You have declared your surrender. We have stoped the attack, and we also have discharged the weapons. We are men of honor, we ar sure you are too. Now, it is time to proceed. Our force of marines -[While saying this, hundreds of rafts started to pour into the ocean from the Grunge-French vessels. Fuel-powered rafts that were taking the force of 10,000 marines to what it was left of the Hattian fleet]- our force of marines will proceed to take control over your vessels, and will proceed to take under our control the survivors."

""You are now prisioners. We will feed you, we will take care of your wounds and we will protect you. -[While saying this, the rafts arrived to the diverse Hattian vessels and the marines started the manouvers to board all of them]-
I will tell you what is going to happen to you, if YOU DO NOT RESIST: You will be captured, you will be guided to our vessels and there you will be under vigilance. The injuries will go to our medical facilities in the ships. You WILL BE RETURNED TO HATTIA, and you will not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, be abused, torturated or even given bad food.

After we have evacuated all of you from the ships, the Hattian fleet will be sunken and will rest in the bottom of the ocean for the rest of the eternity.
That is if you do not resist. As we speak, the marines are starting to board all your ships. If you do resist, we will kill you, plain and simple. We value your lifes, but we will not put into risk the lifes of our Marines. The 10,000 marines have orders to shot at anyone carrying a weapon, so please, leave them behind. I repeat that if you do not resist, you will be returned to Hattia. I repeat also that if you resist, you will be killed, and the ships will be sunken anyway. But the most important thing is that if you resist and we are in the need of fighting you, you will destroy the hopes of peace... and then more Hattians and Aegian soldiers (from AoE2 Region) will be killed""



Message to DPUO:
We commited more forces because we were afraid that Hattia was not going to accept the PERMANENT offer of peace we offered him. We were correct. More Armadas are being sent, and their orders are only to protect Halladian waters -not to seek battle-. If Hattia and his allies had decided to evacuate, then we would not be in the need of more Armadas, ad we would not have had the need of taking the Hattian survivors as prisioners.


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(Now Hattia, you tell me if the people in your vessels will resist or not. The 10,000 marines are boarding your ships, they have not entered into contact with any of your people, to let you act according to your desire of resistance or acceptance. Any decision you make, please tell me how many people are in your vessels)

Begrudgingly he signed it and faxed it back over.

He did sign it. And if you did board, you wouldn't capture anyone alive.

A group of Choqulyan Snipers infiltrate the capital of Hallad and set of a defensive ring around important buildings

(OOC.: Ups..)

-Just when the marines were already bording, the order was given to abort: the doccument was signed.


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2nd Captain: Commodore Vikos, we were having problems with the transmissions, but we have received the document signed.

Commodore Vikos: Excellent... I will publish the document in case Hattia decided to dishonor it... the world will be witness whether the Hattians are men of honor of not. Order the marines to return to our ships. Order the 15th, the 16th and the 17th Armada to withdraw to Hallad´s coastline, take the Armadas insde the gulf. Order the upcoming Armadas NOT to enter into Halladian waters, that could be considered a hostile act. They shall stay outside the Halladian waters and will only enter if the document Hattia signed is not honored.

2nd Captain: Do we sink the enemy vessels? they don´t seem to be in good state, and there doesn´t seem to be anyone in them...

Commodore Vikos: No. You jus withdraw to the coastline. If there are survivors, they will take what it is left of the fleet and leave. If there are no survivors, then the fleet will stay there as a monument to the Hattian braveness. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE the Hattians can send a fleet to take their destroyed fleet to hom. Not because we don´t want to, but because the destroyed fleet is in Halladian waters, and doing so will break the agreement. After everything is solved, Hallad can decide whether to allow them to take the fleet or not, but I dont´t think it will be of any need to anyone...

2nd Captain: What do we do if we detect Commie Louisianans or more Hattians or any hostile force?

Commodore Vikos: Nothing. Nothing UNLESS they enter the Halladian national waters. I think this proves we are being serious when we say we will not allow a blockade. Besides, there are peace talkings going on, I don´t think they will dare to send another force into the regional waters to violate the document Hattia signed.



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Transmission to the World:

2nd Captain: "The document signed by Hattia will be enforced from now on by Grunge-France. If the document is violated it will hurt the honor of Hattia and will also authorise the use of force to enforce it. As declared in the document, no enemy vessels will be able to enter into Halladian waters. The 15th, 16th and 17th Armadas are withdrawing to the Halladian Coastline. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th Armadas WILL NOT enter the Halladian national waters, to avoid giving a hostile message."

A group of Choqulyan Snipers infiltrate the capital of Hallad and set of a defensive ring around important buildings

OOC: how'd you get in my country?

"This is Vice Admiral Aleksandrov, now in command of the fleet, remember this. We may have been bested, and we accept that. But we will remember this, and we will pay Grunge-France back ten-fold. But for now, you have nothing to fear from us, we are men of our words."


Aleksandrov patted the flag draped corpse and then said a few words in his native language. He then slid the corpse out from under the flag and into the water.

The marine band then struck up the Hattian anthem, while the guns of the ship sounded off to sea.

Once they were done, the fleet slid silently off into the distance...

As the Hattian fleet was leaving, and the Aegian Armadas were entering into the Gulf, this tansmission was send to the Hattian fleet:

2nd Captain:


""I´m sure this will not be the last time we will meet, Admiral Aleksandrov, just remember that if you have a great shining future is not because your abilities, but because we let you go. Every time you have a great achivement in your life, remember that it is because we allowed it.
Farewell, Admiral, may God assure eternal rest to the Hattian and the Aegian deads""

Our fleet is to support Hattia. Even, though we do see Grunge-France as a problum, we do not at this time plan to strike his fleet down.

TO: Grunge-France
FROM: Premier Jindal

You remember something, we have arrested your church official in Louisiana and he is being treated well and is safe... For now. If our ships or any of our allies come under fire from your ships starting an attack. We will "dispose" of your religious leader.

OCC: When you say Gulf, did you mean the Gulf of Mexico. B/c if your comming after my nation, you would have been pounded by our defenses on some of the barrier islands that you have to pass to get into the Gulf. Grunge-France, you need to respond to me arresting your official on the NS Catholic meeting. I am not going to be on much in the next coupple of weeks so please be patient.

The Island States fleet will remain in international waters while it refuels and awaits further orders (more than likely, a deployment to Shenzhou).

Aleksandrov picked up his shot glass and downed it in one gulp. He, along with the other captains of the fleet sat in the belly of the Hammer. The air was heavy with the smell of smoke and alcohol.

He leaned back in his chair. Chuckling to himself, "Those idiot capitalists, they should take the time to learn about their enemies." He poured himself another glass. "You know that document he signed?" The other captains nodded, "Well, it applies to the whole country, and it wasn't signed by the Minister of Diplomacy! Those bloody idiots let us get away with 2 fleets when they could've destroyed us!" Captain Zaitsev of the battleship Indefatiguable chuckled. "I knew the old guy had one last trick up his sleeve. Anyway, he told them that he couldn't control forces not under his command, and look, now the navy is under your command Vladimir!" Aleksandrov nodded, "I know, now, a toast to good ole' Brusilov."

A few hours later

As the ships passed by the ships from TIS on their way back home, the crewmen stood on the decks in neatly ordered lines and saluted their comrades. Out in the distance, Admiral Kirov's fleet could be seen fast approaching...

Note: That conversation is a secret IC...

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As the Hattian fleet passed, the Freeport II let off an incredible blast with it's 30 inch guns, saluting it's Hattian comrades with a bang. The smoke cloud drifted out and up, dissipating as it rose into the clear blue skies. The Freeport II's signal light flashed a fast message:

"Hattian comrades, we're sorry we could not make it in time. See you soon."

We are glad the situation has calmed down and we hope these peace negotiations do begin very soon. Once more, we urge all nations to use restraint and we hope that both Grunge-France and Communist Louisiana will keep to their words. If the bloodshed has stopped, there will be no need to harm the Catholic leader or for Grunge-France to begin another offensive.

Gentlemen and fellow nations, we are on the verge of solving this dispute peacefully, without further loss of life. Don't throw away that chance.

OOC:
-Sorry Commie Louisiana, I wasn´t even able to check that thing of my catholic leader being arrested in your nation, I lost the track of the meeting with all that things going on with Commie Missisipe, sorri-

-When I said the Gulf, I meant the Gulf of Hallad. My 3 fleets are there, getting fixed and unloading their soldiers. I have other 3 fleets staying outside of Hallad too. BTW, I only recognise one Gulf of Mexico: The one from The Kahaile Family (Which role plays as real life Mexico, and well, he was first in time and first in time is first in right, you know-


IC

OFFICIAL STATEMENT OF THE GRUNGE-FRENCH GOVERNMENT:


"We demand the inmediate liberation of Catholic Cardinal Leónidas. We have acted with honor and respect for the life with Hattia and its allies, and we expect the same from you. We DEMAND his liberation, otherwise, we will liberate him by force"

Chancellor Ferdinand D´Orange.

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Chancellor: Monsieur President, I have already issued the message for the liberation of Leonidas.

President J. Randall: Hmm... hehehehe, a little exagerated, don´t you think? We will not liberate him by force. I think we might just be about to be helped by the commies.

Chancellor: Do you belive in the reports that Cardinal Leónidas was conspirating against your government?

President J. Randall: I have evidence Cardinal Leónidas was contacting Communist Missisipe for some kind of intervention in Grunge-France... hahahahahahaha! That little prick. I think we can get a double hit here. If they do not liberate Cardinal Leonidas, our people will get mad at them and we will be able to continue with international support our fight against communism, accusing them of "oppresion" against religion. AND we will get rid of that damn Cardinal. He is way too intelligent to allow him to be conspirating against me....


--THAT WAS A SECRET IC, AND THE CARDINAL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE OTHER THREAD ABOUT THE CHURCH MEETING, WAS CONSPIRATING AGAINST GRUNGE-FRANCE--

With the area now calmed down, the Discovery leaves the reef it had been investigating, and begins heading towards towards the site of the battle between the French and Hattian fleets. It's first task is to deploy a set of acoustical transponders, used for precisely locate the Argo, and anything it may find.
Once they are in place, the Argo camera sled is lowered into the water from a crane. Inside the command centre, the scientists were reviewing the available imagery of the sunken Hattian ships so they would be able to recognise them if they were found. With a tow speed of only 4 kph it would take weeks to cover the search area. Long boring weeks of watching the monitors for signs of debris.
Still, the advantage of conducting a visual search was that there was a good chance of locating the debris trail, which would point straight towards the wrecks. And in the wrecks would be a veritable goldmine of intelligence...

Cardinal Leónidas will be held safely in an undisclosed location. Any action against CL or her allies will put Cardinal Leónidas life in jeopardy.

Premier Jindal

Hattia requests that Grunge-France's cardinal is released, as hostilities are currently ceased.


And Shildonia, I doubt you'd find much on those ships, other than the composition of the fleet and personal effects, maybe a few tactical notes and such but that is probably all. And I believe you guys are quite aware what is in that fleet and such. Most of the important stuff is kept in the flagship.

And one last note, Communist Mississippi is nothing more than a damn racist, genocidal maniac. He is no communst.

We in Hallad would like to come to a comprimise. As such, we invite Hattia and Hattian allies to a Peace Conference in Nova Roma, the New Roman Empires Capital. It is located in the middle of the Halladi Island States. However, it is not controlled by Hallad. We promise you no action against your nations or Diplomats willbe done. We invite all Halladi allies to join us as well. Hopefully you all will attend.

do you not see that all communist nations(in the first page) want democracy and voting, yet all capitalist nations want blood wasted?

And Shildonia, I doubt you'd find much on those ships, other than the composition of the fleet and personal effects, maybe a few tactical notes and such but that is probably all. And I believe you guys are quite aware what is in that fleet and such. Most of the important stuff is kept in the flagship.


There'll probably be some kind of encryption gear for talking to the flagship, which will come in handy, though it would have been destroyed if the crew had the chance. There's also the weapons systems, which will probably have technical manuals with them, which is a useful thing to have in determining your capabilities.
Even if we don't find anything, the footage of the wrecks can be sold to the Discovery Channel for use in some documentary :)

do you not see that all communist nations(in the first page) want democracy and voting, yet all capitalist nations want blood wasted?

They were going to enforce their beliefs of Democracy on us by force, yet we are the warmongers?

In the Halladian coastland, where the 3 Armadas were getting repaired and the sailors were resting after the combat with the Hattians, a breaking news was received: 2nd Captain Henry Baudelaire, the one who controlled tne entire operation while Commodore Vikos was attending to the meeting with the Halladian allies, was promoted to Admiral. Now Admiral Henry Baudelaire is at charge of the 15th Aegian Regional Armada, and Commodore Johan Vikos, who was at charge of that Armada, is now promoted to Chief of Operations.

As the Grunge-French Chief of Operations, Commodore Johan Vikos will attend to the meeting in Nova Roma. We advise to create a new thread for that and putting the "Hattian Declaration of Peaceful Means" as the chart that guarantees that we are still in a ceasefire and no military actions can be conducted against anyone.

The Island States Cabinet held a secret emergency meeting, calling together the Minister of War, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the President of The Island States/Chairman of the Island States Communist Party, and the General Secretary of the UnAPS (The Island States' Delegate).

"Welcome gentlemen," The President said as he entered the conference room on Asherton, far from the politics of Freeport. "Our comrades in Hattia have given us a rare opportunity. One of their admirals blundered and promised peace when he had no such authority. The 1st Carrier Group is within spitting distance of our enemies, what are our options?"

"We should ready our troops and invade in pure Island States fashion: an amphibious assault. We've learned much from our last war that we will push through their defenses in hours and be well-inland when the counterattack begins," Chairman of the Joint Chiefs suggested.

"I think we shouldn't push on this, this could lead the entire UnAPS into a war," The General Secretary said. "This could potentially fracture the alliance in ways we could not comprehend! Think of it, we are adovocating an imperialist action!"

"Imperialist? Are you daft?" The Chief of the Marine Corp. objected. "We are trying to get elections started in a country, not colonize it or permanently take it over! Sure, we want the communist party to win, but one of the goals of the UnAPS, in my humble opinion, is to promote democracy! If we didn't step up to this, we'd be letting it go!"

"Not to mention the fact they attacked Hattian ships, which is an attack on TIS ships," The Chief of the Navy reminded the group. "Seriously now, we should ready our coastal defense guns and mobilize the militias for war. Not to dictate what the Chief of the Marine Corp. should do, but I suggest we deploy the 2nd Combined Army Group to Hattia, with their permission ofcourse, and prepare defenses there, as well as here."

"I don't mind at all if you suggest something," The Chief of the Marine Corp. replied. "I'll get right on it."

"Good," The Chief of the Navy said. "In the meantime, I suggest we keep the Freeport II and her escorts where they are and get the 1st and 2nd Amphibious Assault Groups, all loaded with troops, out there as well."

"I'm inclined to agree with most of these suggestions," The President of The Island States said, cutting off his Minister of War before he could speak. "We will deploy the troops, and prepare defenses along the South Haven Strait. "We'll contact Hattia and Edolia immediately and see what their plans are, and get their go ahead for a joint USR operation. General Secretary, you will prepare our defense in the UnAPS. We're bound to meet some opposition there, but we're in the right here. However, if the Hattian government upholds this agreement, our hands are tied. This meeting is adjourned."

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OOC: *points*

Communist Imperialism!

All my forces commited to this operation (so no need to go back in the pages. BTW, I updated the 3 Armadas that engaged Hattia and lost some ships and jets)



CHIEF OF OPERATIONS: Commodore Johan Vikos

OUTSIDE HALLADIAN TERRITORIAL WATERS

2nd Aegian Regional Armada
Lead by: Admiral Marcel Guriot
"Tyendinaga" Nuclear Battle Carrier
"Aegian War" Nuclear Battle Carrier
16 Destroyers
3 "Mistral City" Battleships
1 "Etagelieux" Battleship
14 Medium Frigates
5 Anti-air cannoners
5 Cruisiers
7 Light Frigates
6 "Palmer" Missile Frigates
60 "Riga" Heavy Bombers
60 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
20,000 marines


*3rd Aegian Regional Armada
Lead by: Admiral Gillaume Duran
“Free Galdania” Nuclear Battle Carrier
“Pelagiad” Nuclear Battle Carrier
17 Destroyers
2 "Mistral City" Battleships
3 "Etagelieux" Battleship
12 Medium Frigates
7 Anti-air cannoners
6 Cruisiers
5 Light Frigates
7 "Palmer" Missile Frigates
60 "Riga" Heavy Bombers
60 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters (Captain Gondor)
10,000 marines



*4th Aegian Regional Armada
Lead by: Commodore Rupert Lion
“President Gallé” Nuclear Battle Carrier
“Admiral Treznev” Nuclear Battle Carrier
15 Destroyers
4 "Mistral City" Battleships
3 "Etagelieux" Battleship
15 Medium Frigates
7 Anti-air cannoners
4 Cruisiers
7 Light Frigates
7 "Palmer" Missile Frigates
80 "Riga" Heavy Bombers
80 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
50 Transport ships with: The New Volstik AoE2 Regional Battalion (40,000 soldiers, 350 “Loter” Heavy Tanks and 1 artillery division)
4 Supplies vessels
3 Oil suppliers






IN HALLADIAN COASTLAND

*15th Aegian Regional Armada
Lead by:Admiral Henry Baudelaire
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Ur Trade Pact"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Angelus"
14 Destroyers
2 "Etagelieux" Battleships
1 "Mistral" Battleship
13 Medium Frigates
4 Light Frigates
8 Anti-Air Cannoners
4 Cruisiers
5 "Ricochet" Missile Frigates
58 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
60 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers
10,000 marines


*16th Aegian Regional Armanda
Lead by: Admiral Bernard Dou
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Haltom City"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Kandarin"
13 Destroyers
1 "Etagelieux" Battleships
3 "Mistral" Battleship
15 Medium Frigates
6 Light Frigates
5 Anti-Air Cannoners
3 Cruisiers
6 "Ricochet" Missile Frigates
52 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
60 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers
1 Transport with an Artillery Division
4 Supplies Vessels
1 Oil Supply Vessel


*17th Aegian Regional Armada
Lead by: Admiral Gustav Vitrovski
Nuclear Battle Carrier "Capitalism"
Nuclear Battle Carrier "New Genoa Defense"
15 Destroyers
2 "Etagelieux" Battleships
1 "Mistral" Battleship
13 Medium Frigates
4 Light Frigates
8 Anti-Air Cannoners
4 Cruisiers
7 "Palmer" Missile Frigates
80 "Golden Eagle" Jet Fighters
50 "Heavy Eagle" Bombers






IN HALLADIAN TERRITORY

200 "Loter" Heavy Tanks
1 Artillery Division
20,000 marines

Secret IC:
The Shessaran princes met in Eldidd, and contemplated future action. While Braedd Laeryn pressed for war, the others maintain that they will hold to peace as long as the Hattian allies do.

Update Shessaran military to 2,000 Knights and 20,000 infantry.

NRE forces were pulled to the region, leaving only a small force for deployment from Nova Roma.

They consist of:
Nine million men from Hallad.
450 MiG-29s, from Hallad.
500,000 men from Ralaad.
50 heavy battle tanks, from Ralaad.
4 million Imperial troops from Heimlichsburg.
300 Jagdtiger Super-Heavy Tanks from Mein Gott.
5 Dora Artillery Pieces.
100,000 Teutonic Knights, from Heimlichsburg.
1000 SDF Soldiers, from Scimar.

Bedwyr returned to New Dublin only to prepare to travel to Nova Roma. He would leave his entire force behind this time except for one sergeant who served as his aid. He settled back into his camp to await the meeting. If things went well, he could be home within the month.

Admiral DuFour watches the 1st Red Fleet drop anchor less then 3 miles from the Grunge-France Fleets

Admiral DuFour- There fleet is larger then expected. Radio a request for additional ships to meet up with the 1st Red Fleet. Request the 7th Red Fleet.

7th Red Fleet (Morganza and Teche Armada's)

20 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's

10 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer

5 Infusion Class Carriers
x100 F-16 Fighting Falcon's
x100 F/A-18 Hornet's
x100 RAH-66 Comanche
x75 AC-130U Spooky
x100 F-111
x25 P-3 Orion

10 Iowa Class Battleship's
10 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleship's
10 Skjold Class Battleship's


Secret Transmission to Hattia

I wonder why we try to defend. Like I said, can we just kick Hallad out The International already. His nation is more trouble then its worth and I am not in the position to let Louisiana lose a small number of her ships to try to liberate a nation who is to stupied to realize their under dictatorship. If these people knew what true communism was, they would be on their knees, they would pray that someday all nations would be communist. This nation is not communist, and even if they wanted to be, the way these tyrants here act, they probably wouldnt allow it even if the people demanded it.

President Albert Brezny looked over the satellite and recon photos taken of the massing forces on both sides. He cursed, as he had hoped that the end of the Hattian/Grunge-France confrontation would spell an end for violence in this dispute.

"What's the situation?", he asked the Military officer in command of overseeing the operation.

"Very bad, in terms of the peace negotiations, comrade. Although Hallad seems to be willing to seek a "middle ground" and negotiate, other powers are moving troops."

The President stroked his chin in frustration before slamming his hands on his desk, shouting "THE PROBLEM IS, THEY'RE ON OUR SIDE, DAMNIT!" He then calmed down, before continuing: "How can they hope to be seen as liberators and bringers of peace when they're the ones moving in troops to the area. We must ask the Louisianan fleet to stop calling up more ships."

"Satellites also suggest that our enemies are calling up forces too", the General said.

"Hmmm....well there's not alot we can do about them apart from issue a call for restraint. Meanwhile, we must get these negotiations underway. Tell the Halladians we shall send a diplomat at once, hopefully this will make other nations do the same."

Offical Statement from the Technocracian Communist-Liberal Party:
We urge that all parties restrain their forces and be cautious in the actions that they take. It would be a crime if we were to resort to violence in a situation so close to being solved peacefully. Therefore, we will agree to Hallad's wishes and send a diplomatic team via jet to the location Hallad suggested the negotiations take place.
We also hope our allies Communist Louisiana will not undertake any hasty measures and we trust their fleet's advance is a controlled one, and will not provoke further violence? We also hope Hattia's allies will practice restraint, for we are on the verge of negotiations. We hope other governments will follow our example and send their diplomats to the location Hallad specified for negotiations.
All the best for the future
Albert Brezny
President of Technocracia

F-16s and F-111s aren't carrier capable. Not that I'm complaining or anything. If you want to fill your carriers with planes that can't take off from them that's your perogative.
Well, maybe they can take off if they aren't carrying much fuel and ordanace, but they can't land. The landing gear isn't strong enough.

We thank Yr Widdfa and Technocracia for aiding the path toward peace. We hope other nations will attend the peace conferance.

bump?!

Sorry for being so late, I've been rather busy recently.

Secret Communication to the Island States

Please halt your deployment of troops, we have an alternate plan that might save us thousands of lives if it goes through. All we have to do is get troops on the land and they've lost. After all, we are trained to inflict casualties at extremely long ranges and what better place to do that than a desert.

We, however would like to send representatives from the military to help smooth out any equipment or logistical problems that may arise from us fighting together.

Our Admiral did not blunder, he saw an opportunity to turn defeat into a semi victory and took it.

Public Statement from the Prime Minister

Even though we were the ones attacked in this conflict. We request that our allies cease deployment of troops. We will attend the peace conference, though we stand by our previously stated terms.

And a note for you people calling us imperialists. The Hattian Constitution, article III states. The government of Hattia may not subjugate lands through force of arms. Only annexation where the majority of the Hattian people and the people of the territory support it is legalized by this document.

We are glad to see that Hattia will attend. We hope other will stop their warmongering and come as well.

Technocracia commends Hattia's decision to attend the peace conference. We hope more nations will also follow this line to allow a peaceful solution to the problem.

Bump

Le Bump!

We would like to send a representative to the conference, with the permission of the Halladi Government.

All nations have permission to attend the conferance.

-Commodore Johan Vikos, Chief of Operations, while on his way to the Peace Conference, he recieves an incoming transmision from General John Masferrer, Chief at charge of the CINES (Centre of Intelligence and Espionage)-



Gral. Masferrer: Commodore Vikos, the satellites have reported an important Communist Louisianan fleet near to the Armadas that are outside the Halladian national waters. We also have knowledge that they have reinforcements en route.

Commodore Vikos: Are you sure? Things seem to be getting solved, I am on my way to attending to a peace meeting...

Gral. Masferrer: Well, the Communist Louisianans are increasing their presence there, and....and, according to the satellite pictures, their possition is excelent for attacking the transports that the Armadas brought.

Commodore Vikos: Do you think they will try to attack the transports?

Gral. Masferrer: You tell me, you´re the Commodore. All I know is that having more than 50,000 men in transports so near to hostile fleets is not a wise move.

Commodore Vikos: But I don´t want the transports to unload in Hallad, I mean, everything seems to be working nice, that could be a useless move.

Gral. Masferrer: If everything works just fine and you unload the troops, then you would have wasted your time. But if things get complicated and you did not unloaded the tranports, more than 50,000 men could be easily killed without the chance of defending themselves.

Commodre Vikos: All right then...

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Commodore Vikos issued the order that the 20,000 marines attached to the 2nd Aegian Armada, the 10,000 marines attached to the 3rd Aegian Armada and the "New Volstik" Aegian Battalion directed to Hallad. The 50 transports that carry all these soldiers are en route to the Halladian coastland to unload all the soldiers, leaving behind the Aegian Armadas.


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Commodore Vikos (to himself): I have a bad feeling about this... why the Communist Louisianans insist being so close to my Armadas? This damn commies... Well, let´s just hope the peace conference will work just fine... after all, President Randall has already got his victory over a commie army and his popularity has gone sky high, I don´t see what´s the point on staying here, Grunge-France has got what it wanted...

Grand Duke Gwalcavad skimmed through his daily reports, seeing if anything urgent had come up. Things were well, the economy was on the rise and his popularity was soaring due to the bloodlessness of the Halladi episode. Now Lt. Bedwyr would be on his way to the peace talks and within the month he'd be home with his platoon.
Duncan McConnal entered with his report from the War Department. He looked less than happy.
"What's the matter Duncan? Sorry there wasn't a war?" chuckled the Duke.
"There's time yet." replied McConnal, laying his report on the desk. "Satilite photos showed a Louisianan fleet moving nearer to the French armadas. The French just confirmed it. I just don't like it. I ask that the 19th Division remain on alert until we are sure that the talks are a success. I also want to attach the 8th Armor Division to them, just in case."
Gwalcavad studdied the reports, "Very well, but no more troops than those two divisions, and they must remain in our country until they're needed. The last thing the Halladis need is for us to go inflaming the situation."
McConnal nodded, saluted, and walked from the room.
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NEW DUBLIN, HALLAD

Lt. Bedwyr and two aids stepped aboard the transport helo in their dress uniforms. A few moments later the chopper, escorted by three attack helicopters were flying toward the peace conference.

OOC:

The Peace Confernace:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345156

A relatively unknown low level diplomat, Leonid Vlachko boarded the large transport helicopter along with his 2 guards. Once they were onboard, it lifted up and flew off towards the Peace conference.

Outside of Halladi waters, the Hattian fleet under Admiral Kirov approached the fleet out of Communist Louisiana and stopped. If one looked through some binoculars, he might be able to see the Grunge France fleet from the bridge of the flagship.

-The Transports arrived safe to Hallad and the soldiers were disembarked. The New Volstikian Battalion along with the 30,000 marines were at Hallad. Now there was a total of 50,000 marines, 1 Battalion of 40,000 soldiers an artillery division and a tank division, 1 aditional artillery division and 1 aditional tank division-

As soon as they arrived, the incoming forces and the forces that were already gathered there organised themselves in two forces:


-The GrungeFrench-Halladian Marine Corp.
Lead by: Commander Greg Bátante
200 "Loter" Heavy Tanks
1 Artillery Division
50,000 marines

-The New Volstik Aegian Regional Battalion
Lead by: Colonel William Fritz
40,000 soldiers
350 “Loter” Heavy Tanks
1 artillery division


"Good day Halladian Commanders. I am Colonel William Fritz. I am here to help you in the eventual defense against the commies. We have at your dispossal 2 Aegian Forces. Tell me which possition shall we prepare to defend. I await your response, Halladian Commanders"

The Imperium would like to register its support for the United Socialist Republic at this time. Also, we warn Grunge-France and its allies that should hostilities resume the Imperium will be compelled to act under the mutual defense clause in the United Alliance of Progressive States charter.

Asiya Saleh,
Duchess Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services

The mutual defense clause in the United Alliance of Progressive States charter only applies:


... so long as the member involved was not identified as the aggressor in the conflict

Tell me, do you consider blockading to be a peaceful act? How about threatening to commit piracy against vessels traversing international waters? Or an invasion, coupled with an attempt to murder the democratically elected leader of a sovereign country?
If you consider these to be non-aggressive acts, then surely you will not mind if we begin blockading and invading your own country. After all, it's apparantly a perfectly peaceful and lawful thing to do.

Acts of piracy? An invasion? Democratically elected leader? To the best of our knowledge none of these things exist, and in fact this war is over your ally's refusal to allow democratic elections. As it is, the United Socialist Republics, all of them, are the Imperium's closest allies and when it comes down to it the Imperium will support them in this matter. And it would be in your best interest to cease with your threats, otherwise there will be no quarter given to your troops when they surrender.

Asiya Saleh,
Duchess Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services

Scandinavian States? I have heard that name before... I´m sure we once were friends or something like that...

Nonetheless, our commitment to the defense of the Halladian sovereignty is above all.

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AT THE 3 ARMADAS OUTSIDE THE HALLADIAN WATERS

Early this morning, the 3rd and 4th Aegian Armadas left their position. They were not entering into Halladian territorial waters though, they were navigating even more far away from the Halladian territorial waters and the enemy fleets that had just been identified. The 2nd Aegian Armada stayed in its possition, having behind, a few kilometers away, the enemy fleets.

The 3rd Armada, noticing how the enemy fleet were just a few kilometers away exactly behind the possition of the Armadas, decided that the best way to evacuate the zone was to avoid encountering the enemy fleets and instead navigate to the left of the enemy fleets. As it navigates, it keeps a distance of 5 kilometers from the enemy fleets and it navigates and right now it is 4 kilometers away from the Halladian waters .

The 4th Armada, noticing how the enemy fleet were just a few kilometers away exactly behind the possition of the Armadas, decided that the best way to evacuate the zone was to avoid encountering the enemy fleets and instead navigate to the right of the enemy fleets. As it navigates, it keeps a distance of 5 kilometers from the enemy fleets and right now it is 4 kilometers away from the Halladian waters.


The 2nd Armada stayed at his central possition, .5 kilometers away from the Halladian waters.Due to its incapability to withdraw for it had the enemy fleet right behind it and the 3rd and 4th Armadas were leaving using the only available routes. So, the 2nd Armada stayed in possition.

This was a direct order from Commodore Johan Vikos, and while no explanatios has been given, it was probably the beggining of the Grunge-French withdrawing.

(To picture bettter this movement, imagine a triangle made by the 3 Armadas)

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Colonel William Fritz awaits orders from the Halladian Commanders.

[We've been at each other's threats before, I believe. However, I don't think our ground forces ever met, although if I remember correctly my carrier-based bombers dropped not a few bombs on a couple of your Corps.]

I recomend you read the other threads on this subject before stumbling in here and making statements without knowing what is going on. Particularly the bit where Hattia invaded and conducted airstrikes.
Oh, and your threats to mistreat PoWs are noted. Do unto others, etc.

Acts of piracy? An invasion? Democratically elected leader? To the best of our knowledge none of these things exist, and in fact this war is over your ally's refusal to allow democratic elections. As it is, the United Socialist Republics, all of them, are the Imperium's closest allies and when it comes down to it the Imperium will support them in this matter. And it would be in your best interest to cease with your threats, otherwise there will be no quarter given to your troops when they surrender.

Asiya Saleh,
Duchess Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services

The fleet that you spoke of before is an invasion fleet. If your government doesn't consider that acts of agression, than we in Hallad must send our condolenses to your people for having such a misguided government.

President Fenris was elected by the Halladi people with the knowledge that elections would cease after that. Now, foreign powers believe that they should undo the will of the Halladi poeople- that they know what's best for the Halladi people. Unless you wish to be seen as an imperialist to millions, we suggest you do not get involved in this matter.

[Who said anything about POWs? Giving no quarter simply means not taking POWs.]

An invasion fleet, you say. Yet there are no LCACs, landing ships, or anything else that would indicate the Hattians intend to land troops. Our position on this matter is known, we will do what the United Socialist Republics ask of the Imperium, and for now that means that there will be no invasion. For now.

Also, we are not much cowed by the idea that a few million people would view us as imperialists. After all, we are the Imperium of Scandavian States. Imperium, in case it is hard to guess, in Latin for "empire", and Scandavians are not in the habit of doing things for show.

Asiya Saleh,
Duchess Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services

Particularly the bit where Hattia invaded.

Hmm, when did I invade?

Lol, the only empire I was afraid of it was my own, the old Commonwealth of Grunge-French Independent Nations under the Grunge Emperor. And I recognise it, I was afraid of it, how to avoid it when it was an ACTUAL empire of 12 different nations and not just a single nation, all of them controlled by different people from all over the world? I was right to be afraid of it, it brought me to a collapse.

We can only laugh at the face of the empires, and we can only but remember good old times after hearing the word "Imperium" for the greatest of the Imperiums got his ass kicked by us. And it was a little bigger than yours we are afraid.


(All that is IC, the Grunge-French are just pedantic assholes for the moment).

Hmm, when did I invade?

The infiltration of special forces with the intention of murdering President Fenris. Special forces who you yourself identified as being Hattian by calling for their remains to be repatriated.
It may not be an invasion on the scale of Operation Overlord, but it's still technically an invasion. Plus there's the fighters you sent, which can be identified as being of Hattian origin from the wreckage, and as well as from the uniforms (and testimony, if they survived) of the pilots.
It's all public domain stuff.

International Waters - 1st Carrier Group

"Fleet Admiral," The Freeport II's radar operator called out. "'Enemy' vessels look as if they're organizing into a triangular shape around us. They might be pulling out, but this seriously looks wrong."

"What do you mean by 'wrong'?" Fleet Admiral Fischer asked as he looked at the display.

"Remember how our four carrier groups got slaughtered because they didn't take action against supposedly 'neutral' vessels?" The radar operator said, reminding the Fleet Admiral about the greatest TIS defeat of the Allanean War. The Fleet Admiral walked to the intercom and hailed the bridge.

"Change of plans, you will move the fleet out 50 nautical miles through potentially hostile ships and out to deeper international waters." After a quick 'aye sir', the Fleet Admiral turned to the radar operator. "If you see them maintain this formation around us as we pull back, I want to know about it. If they force our hand, we won't be the next dark page in the history books of The Island States Navy."

Well, I don't consider it an invasion unless the troops have the intention of capturing land. But that's my own opinion.

Admiral Kirov stood on the bridge of his flagship, The Avenger of the Proletariat. "Alexei, why are our Comrade's ships moving back?" The 1st mate turned from his work. "They believe that the Grunge-French are going to repeat their attacks under a flag of neutrality." Kirov nodded, "It wouldn't suprise me, keep in formation with them, we will be stronger with our comrades."

The tightbeam communications dish on the Freeport II swivveled into position to transmit directly to the Hattian flagship (one-time pad used):

"[FORM 2345K13]Comrades, we are noticing that 'enemy' ships are coming into formation around us. While we do not immediately believe that they are hostile, we are not going to wait around and find out. We're increasing our air support umbrella and sending out the Ticonderogas and Arleigh-Burkes to keep an eye on the waters around the Freeport II while our ASW helicopters patrol the water between our escort screen and the Freeport II."

"[FORM 8476B34]Be advised, we are preparing our weapons as a precautionary step. We want to move out to at least 15 nautical miles so our 30" guns have ample room to work in. We advise you do the same and follow us out, and notify any other friendly forces to follow us. If we run into their one of their task forces, we will hail them and tell them to get out of the way. If they suddenly become hostile, we'll engage at point-blank range. Copy?"

OOC: If you run into enemy battleships you'd be a damned sight better off engaging them at the longest range possible, so that you avoid pounding their strong side armour and instead attack the (usually) thinner deck armour, I'd have thought.

OOC: why do you think I'm trying to break out?

OOC: Nah, just making a general comment :)

-The 3rd Aegian Armada, now 58 kilometers away from the Halladian waters, noticed how the enemy forces were appearently "following" them.


Admiral Gillaume Duran: Why do the follow us?

Assitant1: No idea, but they have deployed aerial support.

Admiral Gillaume Duran: I do not like this. Let´s stop our travel. And charge all the weapons. Do not fire unless we are fired upon. Prepare the jets to send them out of the carriers.


- The 3rd Armada stopped, and it is now 58 kilometers away from the Halladian territorial waters, with the Island States´fleet near to it-


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The 4th Aegian Armada, also 58 kilometers away from the Halladian waters and separated by 52 kilometers from the 3rd Armada, also decided to stop its travel.

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The 2nd Aegian Armada, the one that stayed in its possition .5 kilometers away from the Halladian waters, has decided to advance 4 kilometers away from the Halladian waters, that means, approaching to the Hattian fleet.
The distane between the 2nd Aegian Armada and the 3rd and 4th Armadas is of 58 kilometers.

Secret IC:

12 Seawolf Class submarines were moved into Halladi waters (close to the boarder) along with 5 Iowa class battleships.

*After its travel of 4 kilometers, the 2nd Aegian Armada is now close to the Hattian fleet, it can be seen easily in the horizon*

IC:

"What do you mean they're stopping?" Fleet Admiral Fischer asked the radar operator.

"The fleet ahead of us just stopped. Satellite intelligence suggests 'enemy' carriers are preparing planes for launch."

"They're responding to our air support umbrella," Fischer said back silently. He snapped his fingers several times to call over his aide, a young Lieutentant. "Get to the intercom, tell the bridge to radio the fleet and get them to alter course and steer away from the main body of the fleets and to aim through either an empty space or area of least concentration. Tell them not to enter any territorial waters. Get them to radio the 'enemy' vessels and tell them to make a hole for us."

Admiral Kirov looked out at the French fleet. He then walked over to the radio.


You are approaching a Hattian Battlefleet under the command of Admiral Kirov. You are too close, please leave the area and do not come closer.

Admiral Marcel Guriot:

"Hattian fleet, I am sure you have detected that the other Armadas who were with us have withdrawn. My Armada is trying to do the same, but your fleet is in the middle, avoiding our withdrawing effort. You are in our exit way, Hattians"

[There's plenty of sea, why not go around?]

The Emperor was not entirely happy, Asiya had just read out the Hattian response to their inquiry about the Halladi situation. As a rule, third parties were a bad thing when there were several nations all prepared for war, a slip of the tongue or an outright breach of trust could cost more lives than just going after a target fangs bared. Alexander turned to Admiral Sven Jorgenssen, the Second Sea Lord, and asked, “So where do the fleets stand as of this moment?”

Sven adopted a slightly sour look, he liked the plan even less than the Emperor did, “They’re a little over a day’s travel from their hold point and once they get there the three expeditionary fleets will begin patrolling an exclusion zone. I doubt whatever commercial shipping comes through the area is going to like it, but that’s just too bad. But I digress, the problem is that if the Halladis have even decent intelligence they’re going to know the Imperial Navy doesn’t operate much in the way of monohulls, so over a hundred extra monohulls coming in tow with three Imperial Fleets is probably going to get some of their analysts a little worried. The only good thing about all this is that our assault ships and AOEs look alike, so satellites won’t do the job all that well and any aircraft trying to get a closer look is going to find out very quickly that the Imperial Navy doesn’t like snoopers.”

Emperor Alexander turned to Commandant Nastasha Kerensky and asked, “How do you think your Marines will do?”

Natasha sighed and replied bluntly, “I don’t know. We don’t have much intel on what the Halladis have, so we’ve been assuming that the primary resistance is going to come from the Grunge-France forces in the area. If we operate on that assumption, my Marines should do pretty well, especially given their limited objectives. The problem with the Grunge forces is that they have two or three divisions’ worth of men and only a divisions worth of tanks for every one of their so-called divisions. That can lead to a tactical nightmare, they lack the forces to fight a mechanized war and I somehow doubt their infantry has much in the way of mobility, which means they’re pretty much light infantry with tanks thrown in as an afterthought. The only real problem I can foresee is their artillery divisions, but that can be taken care of once we secure an air field and the Army starts flying in the St. Ives Guards.”

The first Alexander of the Larsen dynasty simply nodded and stood up, “Very well, I shall see you all first thing tomorrow morning.”

The Pogey carrier group is ordered to redeploy to whichever of the entrances to the gulf the Communist resupply ships are coming through.
An additional 6 Nemo-class SSK(FC)s and 4 Titan-class SSNs are ordered to transit to the region to take up positions just outside the other two entrances to the gulf. They should arrive over the course of the next two weeks.

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE SECRETARIAT OF DEFENSE

If The Scandinavian States joined this conflict, it will be considered as an action that will affect the peace talsk being held. Grunge-France is getting tired of fooling around with its tiny forces over there and it is ready to send a real force there.
Any other nation joining this conflict will cause Grunge-France to declare "state of war" (not against anyone, it is just a state for our own purposes) and as such, we will commence massive mobilisations.

Of course you don't care that your allies are sending forces...

[Dude, that was entirely secret IC, we've not announced our intention to join this conflict. Furthermore, my fleets are a little over 3,000 miles from your closest ship and won't get any closer than 2,000 miles until certain criteria are met. I ask you to edit this, otherwise my government will take your statement as a threat issued by overly paranoid and agressive fools.]

Acts of piracy? An invasion? Democratically elected leader? To the best of our knowledge none of these things exist, and in fact this war is over your ally's refusal to allow democratic elections. As it is, the United Socialist Republics, all of them, are the Imperium's closest allies and when it comes down to it the Imperium will support them in this matter. And it would be in your best interest to cease with your threats, otherwise there will be no quarter given to your troops when they surrender.

Asiya Saleh,
Duchess Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services




I will not edit because I never said "Scandinavian States is joining the conflict" but "IF the scandinavian states..." And that IF comes from that statement. The statement remains as it only considers Open IC information from you. We have no information tha tYOU ARE in the conflict, but that you MIGHT join the conflict.

To Hattia: Which ally is sending forces?

The Pogey carrier group is ordered to redeploy to whichever of the entrances to the gulf the Communist resupply ships are coming through.
An additional 6 Nemo-class SSK(FC)s and 4 Titan-class SSNs are ordered to transit to the region to take up positions just outside the other two entrances to the gulf. They should arrive over the course of the next two weeks.

...

[Ah, I had forgotten about that. Kinda late responding to that, no? And Hattia, I would prefer that you not admit IC that I will be participating, at least not yet, I'd like to have surprise on my side.]

Of course, suprise is always a good thing, except when it isn't... ;)

[/me reminds Hattia about marking OOC statement as such. It's a pain in the ass to decide if something is IC or OOC when the post isn't marked OOC when it should be. Sorry to be so picky, I'm just a stickler about that.]

OOC: Ah, no problem, I'll try to remember...

So? what do you want me to do Hattia? kick Shildonia out of INTERNATIONAL WATERS? who the hell am I?


Our statement remains.



(OOC.: Ah, the hypocrecy of politics...)


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OOC: No, I was just saying you are being a hypocrite. No offense meant though. And that previous statement was an OOC statement...

OOC.: No problem. Of course I´m being hypocrite, everything in a war is an hypocrecy, though some hypocrecies are more alarming than others, but that´s just my IC line. Remember -still OOC of course- That the President of Grunge-France REQUIRES a war, otherwise, people will remember the real problem and will depose him, so, my President will do everything that is possible to have a huge, massive war going on. Of course, you only know that OOC. Another solution could be the cardinal C. Louisiana is holding as a hostage, he had an offer to the C. Louisianans (the council topic) that was going to benefit everyone but my president, but C. Louisiana seems to have forgotten that whole thing.

Please explain how you were able to locate the submarines that are en route. Preferably using some kind of RPing, rather than simply copying and pasting a post, which wasn't, by the way, a press release. Do you think my Admirals post the locations and orders of every ship in the fleet on some website for anyone to find?

[He's made no IC comment as to the disposition of your subs, he made an OOC remark in reaction to what was taken as an off-the-cuff pronouncement by GF.]

STILL OOC:

"Please explain how you were able to locate the submarines that are en route. Preferably using some kind of RPing, rather than simply copying and pasting a post, which wasn't, by the way, a press release. Do you think my Admirals post the locations and orders of every ship in the fleet on some website for anyone to find?"

Scandinavian States is right, I have no IC knowledge of your ships OR, if you prefer, I know it because Hattia said THAT YOU WERE SENDING SHIPS and did not say it OOC. But I know it was a mistake and I will not be bitching about it. Hattia meant to say that OOC and I will assume it as such. So calm down and be sure next time you actually read the whole thing.

My question was aimed at Hattia. Complaining about the deployment OOCly is pointless, because OOC has no effect on IC, and complaining ICly is impossible because he has no knowledge of the submarines.
Either way it was a pointless statement to make, so I wanted to clarify the matter. As a rule, when I do deployments, it is done with as little pomp and fanfare as possible. Changing the assignment of a few submarines can be done without any pomp and fanfare, and with the knowledge of only a very small number of people.
Oh, and I like the way you know what Hattia meant to say before he has had the chance to clarify things. Very ESP of you.

OOC: Well, he hit it right on the head, that actually was what I was going to say. I don't know about your subs IC, and I don't act like I have.

"Oh, and I like the way you know what Hattia meant to say before he has had the chance to clarify things. Very ESP of you."

"OOC: Well, he hit it right on the head, that actually was what I was going to say."

:P


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Now can we move on with this? Well, actually, nothing new has come up, but I mean, I think all the OOC inquires have been clearified.