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CM calls for international conference to divide up Africa

Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:35
CM Premier Curtis Fabus and CM Minister of Foreign Affairs Paul Stahlecker have issued calls for the world community to come to a conference in CM, to be hosted at the "Stalingrad" Estate of Premier Fabus, the estate is in Neshoba county and has its own airfield so planes can land.


As you all know CM owns the following in Africa.


Libya (All of it, except for a narrow strip near the Algerian border stretching to the Mediterranean that Chellis owns)

4 new cities were built. All of the cities are on the coast.
"New Jerusalem" which is approximately 25 miles west of Tobruk.
"Fabus City" which is approximately 12 miles east of Tripoli.
"Christus Rex" which is approximately 5 miles east and slightly south of Surt.
"New Jackson City" which is approximately 12 miles north-east of Benghazi

Mississippian Egypt (Parts of Egypt, that include the cities of Alexandria, Damietta, Marsa Matruh, Tanta, and Siwah, and the lands up to the Libyan border west of the cities named)

And as you know, CM needs living space, our lands are overcrowded. We have too many citizens and we need colonies to dump them in.



CM will call the conference the "2004 Neshoba Conference" Our goals are to get Guiena, Senegal, Gambia, and Mauritania. (They will be formed into a union called "Mississippian West Africa" and administered by CM authorities)

CM would also like to look into acquiring Sudan and Uganda.


IDF, Parthia, and other key CM allies are urged to attend the conference and stake their claims in Africa.



Occ- I realize some people might have these lands claimed, but you don't have to recognize my claims (or anybody's claims for that matter), and I don't have to recognize yours.

However if I RP with you regularly I will obviously have to recognize your claims. So if you're a regular with me and you have one of the lands I am looking to get, tell me so I know to go elsewhere. But if you're some obscure nation I've never heard of, don't bother screaming "I own that nation."

Also these are the RL nations I'm going for, not the NS nations. So if your nation is named Sudan Rules, but you're really Peru, don't complain to me.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:36
You can call this "The Scramble For Africa" if you so choose to.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:40
Premier Curtis Fabus has denied accusations that the scramble for Africa is just an attempt to distract people from domestic problems and problems in Tennessee. Thus far over 40,000 CM soldiers have died in clashes with insurgents in Tennessee. Less than 2,000 CM soldiers died in the 24 hour campaign to capture Tennessee, and the Tennessee army was thoroughly smashed by the campaign. But now there are mobile units of guerillas moving swiftly through the woods and mountain regions of TN that are causing major headaches for the occupying army. Thus far over 40,000 CM soldiers and 450,000 insurgents have died.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2004, 22:44
ViZion is outraged over these actions over dividing up Africa. This is a cruel thing to do. ViZion demands this cease, and will impose an embargo on CM and other nations who are involved in gobbling up land not even yours, land that you took from the native people of this land. ViZion urges all other nations to do the same.

This must not stand.
Chellis
20-07-2004, 22:45
Chellis deplores the mindless taking of african nations for no purpose but to have more land.
Jarridia
20-07-2004, 22:48
Jarridia must agree with its good friend ViZion on this situation. We request politely that you return these lands to the natives who live there. Imperialism does not sit well with the Jarridian people, and is not supported by the WWA. Cease your "invasion of Africa, or you will face an embargo from us as well.

President Branam of Jarridia
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:48
ViZion is outraged over these actions over dividing up Africa. This is a cruel thing to do. ViZion demands this cease, and will impose an embargo on CM and other nations who are involved in gobbling up land not even yours, land that you took from the native people of this land. ViZion urges all other nations to do the same.

This must not stand.


Paul Stahlecker speaking via the Mississippian Government News Channel replied with a loud yawn. He was seen to put his hand over his mouth while he yawned, his face revealed his utter lack of concern and his total apathy about the "economic embargo" and he said nothing.

Finally the journalist nudged him and he said, "Oh yes of course" as he sat up in his seat.

He stated, "Our lands are overcrowded, vast tracts of the lands we seek to enter into are uninhabited as the natives don't understand how to make the lands arable. We intend to turn the vast tracts of barren desert into lush green paradises. There are literally millions of africans immigrating into Europe under the guise of refugees, and the governments say it is good for diversity. Well we are going to send a few million whites to West Africa to increase their diversity. They can thank us later."
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:50
Jarridia must agree with its good friend ViZion on this situation. We request politely that you return these lands to the natives who live there. Imperialism does not sit well with the Jarridian people, and is not supported by the WWA. Cease your "invasion of Africa, or you will face an embargo from us as well.

President Branam of Jarridia


"That was your 666th post, you must be satan, because only satan opposes whites colonizing africa." That was the official reply of Pope Pius XIII of the CM catholic church.


On another note. I don't care if people with whom I've never traded before place embargoes on me. It's your right. It will just force domestic industry to build more factories thus creating more domestic jobs. You're actually doing my domestic industry a favor.

I'll wait to see what my allies and others who want in on the dividing of Africa have to say. You'll get my official reply in a while.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 22:56
Jarridia must agree with its good friend ViZion on this situation. We request politely that you return these lands to the natives who live there. Imperialism does not sit well with the Jarridian people, and is not supported by the WWA. Cease your "invasion of Africa, or you will face an embargo from us as well.

President Branam of Jarridia


Oh yeah, the natives in Libya were forcibly deported to Turkey, so they cannot get the land back. It now belongs to 50 million white Mississippians. Similar things may happen to the 40 million arabs in Mississippian Egypt, but only if the 10 million white colonists there want them deported.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2004, 22:57
They will not thank you for this. You will destroy the ecosystem, destroy the culture! This is completely immoral. Cease this action immediately
imported_ViZion
20-07-2004, 23:00
Oh yeah, the natives in Libya were forcibly deported to Turkey, so they cannot get the land back. It now belongs to 50 million white Mississippians. Similar things may happen to the 40 million arabs in Mississippian Egypt, but only if the 10 million white colonists there want them deported.
WHAT? This is insane! Do not forcefully deport them. If they refuse to leave, and you attack them, we will be forced to mobilize, as we view it as genocide, and a ruthless attack on natives.

We also demand that the natives already deported sent back to their native land, or send them where they wish.
Malatose
20-07-2004, 23:06
Communist Mississippi will have there day.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:09
WHAT? This is insane! Do not forcefully deport them. If they refuse to leave, and you attack them, we will be forced to mobilize, as we view it as genocide, and a ruthless attack on natives.

We also demand that the natives already deported sent back to their native land, or send them where they wish.

They are happy in Turkey, we've given them lots of money.
Tyrandis
20-07-2004, 23:10
Official Response from the Office of the Executor:

"Go ahead and have your conference.

We'll be laughing at you when Credonia and his allies rape your houses and burn your women for violating the Sutton Doctrine."
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:10
Communist Mississippi will have there day.

I don't want any trouble because I'm going to be busy for a few days. So I tell you what. I'll keep my current territorial gains, and I'll pledge to make no further claims on Africa. I'll be happy with Libya and Mississippian Egypt. In exchange, I want you to stop mobilizing for a possible war against me.

Well what say you?
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:12
Official Response from the Office of the Executor:

"Go ahead and have your conference.

We'll be laughing at you when Credonia and his allies rape your houses and burn your women for violating the Sutton Doctrine."


I've never heard of the Sutton doctrine. I cannot abide by something I've never heard of.
Tyrandis
20-07-2004, 23:16
If I recall correctly, Credonia promised humanitarian aid to the African nations and defense against any acts of imperialist aggression. Basically, you're messing with a 1.611 bn pop nation that beat the crap out of more nations than I can remember.

Only nation that is more violent than Creddy is probably AMF.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:19
If I recall correctly, Credonia promised humanitarian aid to the African nations and defense against any acts of imperialist aggression. Basically, you're messing with a 1.611 bn pop nation that beat the crap out of more nations than I can remember.

Only nation that is more violent than Creddy is probably AMF.


Well we stamped out civil war, slave trade, and a whole host of other evils in the territories we've taken.

Occ- What I don't get is how you all can think you're the only ones entitled to have an empire. I don't want anything too large, just enough to wet my beak a little.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2004, 23:21
Well we stamped out civil war, slave trade, and a whole host of other evils in the territories we've taken.

Occ- What I don't get is how you all can think you're the only ones entitled to have an empire. I don't want anything too large, just enough to wet my beak a little.
OOC: All I have is my native land, S. Italy, for over 2.3 billion, so don't complain to me.
Chellis
20-07-2004, 23:24
If I recall correctly, Credonia promised humanitarian aid to the African nations and defense against any acts of imperialist aggression. Basically, you're messing with a 1.611 bn pop nation that beat the crap out of more nations than I can remember.

Only nation that is more violent than Creddy is probably AMF.

Creddy isnt that scary. Im one of the biggest land-holders of africa, and he hasnt done anything. I havnt kicked any africans out of their native lands, but still.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:27
OOC: All I have is my native land, S. Italy, for over 2.3 billion, so don't complain to me.

Yes but many of people are peasant farmers and as such they need large amounts of land to work on the collective farms. We don't live in massive housing projects, we're rural dwellers for a most part. Rural people need land.

You have my word we are done with our territorial expansion, we have enough land, finally.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:29
I'll be quite honest with you all. I hate doing unplanned wars because they inevitably degenerate into a flurry of godmodding. That is why I'd rather RP peace talks. :)
Tyrandis
20-07-2004, 23:30
OOC: Feh. I control the coastline of Yemen and Oman and the Laccadive Islands, but I've got a 900-ish million pop. You don't see me trying to annex nations and kick out the natives, do you?
Brydog
20-07-2004, 23:31
I think that I should go for Liberia again.
Communist Mississippi
20-07-2004, 23:34
OOC: Feh. I control the coastline of Yemen and Oman and the Laccadive Islands, but I've got a 900-ish million pop. You don't see me trying to annex nations and kick out the natives, do you?


We only kicked the natives out when they wouldn't stop their insurgencies. We were willing to let them live in Libya and share in all the improvements we were making.

Perhaps we were too hasty in kicking them out. If you agree to talks to avert war, we'll agree to discuss the possibility of allowing them to return.
The Parthians
20-07-2004, 23:46
Parthia wiould like Nigeria and a few middle estern provinces (the UAE, Quatar)

We still have control over a slice of Egypt and Iraq.
Unified West Africa
21-07-2004, 07:00
OOC: Guinea is part of the Federation. Not claimed by, but physically a part of, as in Guinea's land area and people encompass the country's main makeup. So any attempt on Guinea, so long as the two of us operate in the same universe, would have to recognize that doing so would constitute a full invasion of the UWA mainland.
Fascist Afrikanerdom
21-07-2004, 07:02
Could we take Namibia? I want to free the German Settlers there.
Communist Mississippi
21-07-2004, 07:03
I motion this thread be let to die.


I have no further claims to make in Africa. I'm happy with Libya and Mississippian Egypt. My people just needed that little extra bit of living space.

I make no further claim on any African nation.
Chellis
21-07-2004, 07:15
Chellis warns that any parthian movements into CHELLIAN Nigeria will result into the destruction of the country, Parthia that is.
Western Asia
21-07-2004, 07:27
OOC: Ummm, okay...lemme just say some things. Arabs from northern africa would not be happy in turkey...no matter what your deus ex machina federal treasury paid them. Turkey is Turkic...not Arabic.

2nd WA controls Turkey, according to many threads listing such info.

WA claims in the ME extend right to the cusp of africa, including the Sinai Peninsula.

Last I checked, the powerful elvish controlled the UAE and Oman, specifically menelmacar. WA has alliances with Free Kenya and Sniper Country Ethiopia, Tanzania, and South Africa. WA also is closely allied with the government of Madagascar and controls about half of the Canary Islands.

Several powerful nations control great portions of Africa...it's not completely open and a quick check of the territorial claims thread could do you all some good.

Okay, I'm done.
The Parthians
21-07-2004, 07:31
Chellis warns that any parthian movements into CHELLIAN Nigeria will result into the destruction of the country, Parthia that is.


Well Chellis, we mean no harm to you. Do you own all of Nigeria or just part?
Communist Mississippi
21-07-2004, 07:40
OOC: Ummm, okay...lemme just say some things. Arabs from northern africa would not be happy in turkey...no matter what your deus ex machina federal treasury paid them. Turkey is Turkic...not Arabic.



Okay, I'm done.


Which is why we brought all the native Libyans back to Libya. And we even compensated them for their ordeal.

I'm quite certain Sniper Country was deleted. He isn't showing up on the NS search function and I heard he was deleted.
Western Asia
21-07-2004, 07:53
Which is why we brought all the native Libyans back to Libya. And we even compensated them for their ordeal.

I'm quite certain Sniper Country was deleted. He isn't showing up on the NS search function and I heard he was deleted.

That's right...lapsed. Just an existing claim that I'm aware of. As far as WA is concerned, SC either exists and WA has bases there or it doesn't and...well...it's of little matter, 'cept for other claims to those lands won't be recognized (oocly or icly, for simplicity).
Der Angst
21-07-2004, 07:55
I suggest talking with them. (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=africa)

Or are they too big for you guys?

For the record: A couple of them do RP in the NS forums. And a fuckton of them RPs in their own forums.

And before I forget it: Making RL landclaims of (apparently) suddenly uninhabited territories in a neocolonialist manner, rather than, say, trying to RP some such with other NS nations does not increase the size of your procreational organs.