NationStates Jolt Archive

What do you think?

No. CM is better of with libya under CM rule, but other than that... ^_^

Well since the Libyan people are now all white (All 50 million of them), since the arabs were chased out. And since we are lavishly spending money (To the tune of 2.5 trillion dollars) on the whites in Libya and Mississippian Egypt, I'd say they're better off. And since they are now Libya, Libya is better off.

But they arent really libya if they are just Mississippians.

They are Libyan citizens now. They are the only people in Libya. If they left Libya would be empty, deserted, nobody would be there.

Also this isn't a poll where I do what the people vote, this is an opinion poll to see how many support my land grab... Er I mean my efforts to carry Civilization to Libya.

OOC: A few pointers here again.. I severely doubt Libya can support 50 million people in addition to the Arab population. There just isn't enough arable land.. supporting Libyan colonists would be like an albatross around the neck of the CM economy. Simply put, Libya is big on paper, but a big chunk of the land like in much of the Sahara is useless desert.

Also.. where did those 5 million arabs go? Were they all killed? If not, where are they and why are you RPing out the effects of indiginous insurgents?

OOC: A few pointers here again.. I severely doubt Libya can support 50 million people in addition to the Arab population. There just isn't enough arable land.. supporting Libyan colonists would be like an albatross around the neck of the CM economy. Simply put, Libya is big on paper, but a big chunk of the land like in much of the Sahara is useless desert.

Also.. where did those 5 million arabs go? Were they all killed? If not, where are they and why are you RPing out the effects of indiginous insurgents?


There are a few who didn't leave, they're in the remote regions, also we've spent 1 trillion dollars to irrigate massive amounts of land. There were approximately 10 million arabs there are we simply told them to pack up and leave, we gave them 12 hours to be out of the country or else. They all made fled to ottoman lands.


Read in the earlier posts, I'm spending a lot to turn Libya from a desert into a paradise.

OOC: If the technological means to turn the Sahara into arable land existed, it would have been done already. The problem isn't necessarily irrigation, it's that no matter what you do you'll never ever ever be able to grow corn in a sand dune.

OOC: If the technological means to turn the Sahara into arable land existed, it would have been done already. The problem isn't necessarily irrigation, it's that no matter what you do you'll never ever ever be able to grow corn in a sand dune.

Well we are going to make artificial lakes, rivers, creeks, streams, and canals to make the land arable.


The means exist, the will is what is lacking. Also the means are not in the hands of the Libyans who are basically in abject poverty. The means are in the hands of the rich nations.

I guess desalanization and irrigation could do that.

occ: Is it really credible that so many millions of people can be killed or expelled (both in Libya and in the Kingdom of Mississippi). What are the precedents and what is the time scale?

occ: also no doubt this making the desert bloom rubbish is based on Israel's agricultural miracle? Because you should be aware that Israel has sucked up so much groundwater that osmosis from the mediterranean is now salinating - and polluting - the land.
eg. http://israeleconomy.org/nbn/nbn126.htm

June 18 2000 Jerusalem Post editorial, "...by this time next year, there may be no choice but to ration water in the major cities...the verdant countryside-always the pride of the European minded Zionist enterprise-will fade into a more fittingly desolate regional look"

occ: Is it really credible that so many millions of people can be killed or expelled (both in Libya and in the Kingdom of Mississippi). What are the precedents and what is the time scale?


USSR, WW2 Germany, Rwanda (they killed 800,000 people in a few months with just knives, clubs, machettes, and a few pistols and rifles), Cambodia, Armenia under the Ottoman empire in ww1, Iraq and the Kurds, Yugoslavia.


You can expel anybody in Libya, just tell them "Get out or die."

In CM, we had tasked almost 1.1 million soldiers with carrying out the executions, we had 10 million soldiers and paramilitaries help rounding them up. We had built 200 massive camp facilities.

occ: also no doubt this making the desert bloom rubbish is based on Israel's agricultural miracle? Because you should be aware that Israel has sucked up so much groundwater that osmosis from the mediterranean is now salinating - and polluting - the land.
eg. http://israeleconomy.org/nbn/nbn126.htm

June 18 2000 Jerusalem Post editorial, "...by this time next year, there may be no choice but to ration water in the major cities...the verdant countryside-always the pride of the European minded Zionist enterprise-will fade into a more fittingly desolate regional look"

Kuwait and Saudi Arabia do something called "Desalination". They take the salt out of the salt water. We'll do the same. Anyway, this is a game, if you spend the money, the time, and the manpower, you can do about anything that you can properly explain and has some decent amount of basis in fact. What I'm doing has a fair amount of basis in fact, so I think it should be allowed.

We want permission from Uganda, Sudan, and Kenya to make a massive canal that can stretch from Lake Victoria through several nations to Libya (We will pay handsomely for permission to do this). We may also need Chad to jump on board. We'll pay top dollars though.

We're going to create about 1/2 dozen canals throughout Libya, we're going to make probably over 100 small lakes and 5-10 massive lakes. It will take time and money. We're deploying thousands of army engineers and we're looking to contract civilian engineers from around the world.

To the State Library of Mississippi

We were wondering if you could fill us in on some of the history of the Kingdom of Mississippi. We’ve heard that in 1984 Mississippi had 800million whites and 40-60 million blacks. When President Fabus came to power 10-20 million blacks reportedly fled Mississippi, about 30 million were killed as well as untold numbers of Jews (presumably Gypsies and gays as well). We understand that your government denies any such massacres, but we wonder whether you, as a reputable institution, also persist in blanket denials in the face of thousands of eyewitness testimony and photographic evidence.

We have also heard that CM claims to have over 1 billion whites and 10 million blacks. That’s equivalent to India or China, but with a hell of a lot less ethnic diversity. How many languages do you have? India has 24 official languages and hundreds of unofficial ones. China has at least two languages and thousands of dialects. How many armed separatist groups do you have?

Peace be with you

Brother Thomas Scepticus +
Political Studies department of Santa Sofia College


ooc: my problem is that you are stretching the limits of credibility constantly. The wilder your claims the more the world spreads out to the point of incoherence.

We have no separatists groups. There is also no photographic evidence of the camps, if you bothered to read the RP about operation purification, you'd know that.


We have basically people from all across Europe living in our nation.

ooc: my problem is that you are stretching the limits of credibility constantly. The wilder your claims the more the world spreads out to the point of incoherence.

How dare you tell me something like that when you haven't read the Operation Purification RP and you don't even have a nation, you're just a guest. How dare pass your insolent judgement against me before you've even read the RPs that will tell you all you need to know about my nation.

I suppose the question should be. Is CM better off now that it controls Libya?

I fully support it! Let the Earth nations help themselves. The question should be:

Is Kansas better off under Communist Mississippi?
or
Whatever happened to Communist Louisiana?

I fully support it! Let the Earth nations help themselves. The question should be:

Is Kansas better off under Communist Mississippi?
or
Whatever happened to Communist Louisiana?


I don't own Kansas. I don't want Kansas.