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woman for sale!!

Walrica
19-07-2004, 18:55
would you like a new wife? can't be bothered to go out and find one? well here's the revolutionary service mail order wives .Prices starting at £1500 we have a wide range of wives in differant shapes and sizes. A pretty wife for a ugly man well you have come to the right place, no obligation to buy and guarranted to be discrete
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 19:00
You'd sell a live for a thousand dollars? Desist, immediately, or you will be dealt with.
Bonstock
19-07-2004, 19:01
The Federal Republic is appauled by this sale of women

Secret: Lord Harald wishes to purchase 200 women for use as sex slaves. We want them tall, skinny, half of them Scandinavian, half East Asian. If a word about this is spoken, your blood will fill a new ocean, and your corpses will make a new continent.
Icara
19-07-2004, 19:03
Get me Jennifer Connely for $5 and I'll believe you.
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 19:03
Walrica; we told you to stop. You have thirty minutes.
Bonstock
19-07-2004, 19:07
Walrica; we told you to stop. You have thirty minutes.

Yeah, stop or we'll blow you to bits!

Secret message: Send the order quickly. An un marked 747 will soon touch down. Load the missies on the plane, and make sure no one sees. The pilot will have the 300,000 pounds you want.
Tralalalaland
19-07-2004, 19:08
We the people of Tralalalalaland are deeply disturbed and appalled at the concept of exchanging currency for a significant other from another country. However, our prison inmates are rather lonely, so maybe we could get a discount...?

Or how bout no?
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 19:23
"SatOne, SatOne this is Sierra Alpha Foxtrot Niner, we are in approach," the voice on the radio said. "We are in approach of the airfield, and... we got the pictures. Full turn, full turn, we're headin' home."
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 19:23
Ten Minutes.
Walrica
19-07-2004, 19:43
Yeah, stop or we'll blow you to bits!

Secret message: Send the order quickly. An un marked 747 will soon touch down. Load the missies on the plane, and make sure no one sees. The pilot will have the 300,000 pounds you want.


the missies are on the airfield as you requested they will be accompaned by 10 armed gaured incase you pull a fast one, we have cleared the airfield and it's surronding of the genaral public it's good doing business with you
Communist Louisiana
19-07-2004, 19:44
We will buy all the women you wish to sell. Name the price and before TBD gets you.
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 19:52
Your time is up. Last chance to shut down or we will do it for you.
Arx Angelus
19-07-2004, 20:10
The People of Arx Angelus, speaking through their governing councils, request that you desist in this horrible practice of selling human beings. We believe it is wrong, and a mjor human-rights violation.

However, we also condemn the Burnsian Desert's threat of warfare against Walrica, especially withought any attempts at dimplomatic resolution.
Sarzonia
19-07-2004, 20:28
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia condemns the offer of selling women by Walrica. We call upon them to cease this barbaric practice and we call upon the nations of the world to ignore their illicit sale.

We would prefer to see a diplomatic solution to this situation and would hope that the Burnsian Desert does not resort to widespread violence.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Chardonay
19-07-2004, 20:40
The Socialist Principality of Chardonay condemns this thinly veiled attempt to resurect legalized slave trading, and will impose economic sanctions on any nations found to be participating in this insult to human dignaty. We call on all nations to join us in condemning this repugnant decision.
Communist Mississippi
19-07-2004, 20:47
You'd sell a live for a thousand dollars? Desist, immediately, or you will be dealt with.

Actually at the exchange rates today, the 1,500 pounds is almost $3,000 US dollars
Bostopia
19-07-2004, 21:16
The Confederacy of Bostopia condemns the the sale of human beings for any use, and fully supports The Burnsian Desert in any military action it takes. We are sending diplomats to The Burnsian Desert, please liase with these men, and inform myself of any support you will need, as we will be glad to aid in stopping this barbaric trade.

ooc: thanks for notification of the mistake
Communist Mississippi
19-07-2004, 21:19
The Confederacy of Bostopia condones the the sale of human beings for any use, and fully supports The Burnsian Desert in any military action it takes. We are sending diplomats to The Burnsian Desert, please liase with these men, and inform myself of any support you will need, as we will be glad to aid in stopping this barbaric trade.


How can you condone (Support) the sale of slaves yet support TBD who wants to stop the sale. You obviously don't know what condone means. :)
Arx Angelus
19-07-2004, 21:21
The Holy Republic of Arx Angelus condemns Bostopia's support of rash military action. We ask that both the Burnsian Desert and Bostopia desist any actions of a hostile nature towards the slave-states of the world.

We pray that you reconsider your actions, and instead attempt economic embargos, and dimplomatic meetings.
Sarzonia
19-07-2004, 21:21
How can you condone (Support) the sale of slaves yet support TBD who wants to stop the sale. You obviously don't know what condone means. :)

[OOC: Sounds like somebody meant "condemn."]

Sarzonia would like to point out to Arx Angelus that if a country does not have diplomatic relations with a country or conduct trade with them, diplomatic or economic pressures amount to little more than symbolic gestures.

We stand by our previous condemnations of slavery.
Central Facehuggeria
19-07-2004, 21:22
IC: We fully condone the selling and trading of slaves. Any attempt to infringe on the soverignty of Walrica will be met with economic and diplomatic sanctions from our nation.

OOC: Not that I trade with too many people, but it's more of an "I disagree with what you people are saying, but I don't think it's worth going to war over it." After all, Slave trading will always have a home in the Nazi Utopia of Central Facehuggeria.
Arx Angelus
19-07-2004, 21:26
Sarzonia would like to point out to Arx Angelus that if a country does not have diplomatic relations with a country or conduct trade with them, diplomatic or economic pressures amount to little more than symbolic gestures.


ooc: I realize that. :) However, I'm really quite new to the RP on these boards, and thus, don't have much i can do to show extreme dissaproval IC. So, I just condemn, condemn, condemn!
Hawaiian Islands
19-07-2004, 21:30
This is a disgrace to me, Rachel Rains, and my hot human sisters.

Rachel Rains,
Royal Leader of Hawaiian Islands.
The Island of Rose
19-07-2004, 21:31
Personal Message:

If we all repressed our sexual fantasies, like me, we wouldn't have slave trade, or at least it'd lower...
-Sergei Ilyanov
Procco
19-07-2004, 21:32
Trade embargo sucessfully imposed with Walrica.
United Christiandom
19-07-2004, 21:33
I'm glad you're kidding.

*shivers*

-R. S.
The Island of Rose
19-07-2004, 21:35
I'm glad you're kidding.

*shivers*

-R. S.

No seriously, I have no sexual thoughts inside my mind anymore...
Boobkakistan
19-07-2004, 21:41
Walrica, as Czar of Boobkakistan I formally request you send a few catalogs to my country. If your goods are GOOD...so is my money.


Czar Ragnarr Von Venomish
Boobkakistan

P.S. Ever thought of designing a woman of the month club?? Just a thought.
Mirwa
19-07-2004, 21:49
We, the Queen of Mirwa, want it to be known that the Constitutional Monarchy of Mirwa condemns selling or trading of any living being.
We would, however, like to take use of this opportunity to offer all a complimentary tribble-burger.

(Those damn things multiply faster than we can eat them... o_O;; )
Crimmond
19-07-2004, 22:18
The world allready has a woman slave trade. Mail Order Russian Brides.
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 22:29
There is a full trade and economic embargo on Walrica. If this act continues, there will be fire raining down from the heavens.
Feminine Little Boys
19-07-2004, 22:30
FLB is suppling Walrica with a shipment of 5 tonnes of feminizing pills, to pepper and solt amongst their male population as they please.
Anglosaxton Peoples
19-07-2004, 22:31
Our population has recently lost 56% of the women due to a microbacterium that feeds off female hormones. We have finaly cut off the spread but we need women to make babies. We need 100,000 ladies of any shape and race . We will pay 1 billion pounds for this trade. If any country tries to interfere they will fealt he wrath of my army. Apoun aproval 300 heavy infintry will be sent to opent eh blockade.This can be dont the easy way or the fun way.

The forces are massing......
The Burnsian Desert
19-07-2004, 22:39
Walrica, if you complete these orders...
Anglosaxton Peoples
19-07-2004, 22:43
Walrica if you complete my order i will offer you free trade with my country and as many small arms as my country can build. Also i will stand by you in war as The Burnsian Desert and his buddies did not go through the UN before placing embargos, blockades, and sanctions on your country.
Jamoscomy
19-07-2004, 22:46
The Dominion of Jamoscomy agrees with many of the nations before, and condems the act of selling people as slaves. However, we do not think war is a good answer and we will make a trade embargo against Walrica and encourage others to do so.

We may be willing to take some measures to help out the Anglosaxton Peoples with their need in a more acceptable manner, as an atempt to calm down their army and think things through, logically and peacefully with the nations that disagree.

Advisor of National Affairs: Jamoso Getz
McGillicuttey
19-07-2004, 23:06
The Armed Republic of McGillicuttey announces it neither condemns nor condones the sale of women as wives for ugly men. However we are quite willing to supply the "fire" to "rain from the sky" or what ever other weapons you might wish to
a) Smite the evils of the horrific slave traders
or
b) Defend yourselves from the thugary of savage nationstates

reasonable prices

"Dinamite" Dave McGillicuttey
President of the Armed Republic of McGillicutty
Sarzonia
20-07-2004, 03:05
ooc: I realize that. :) However, I'm really quite new to the RP on these boards, and thus, don't have much i can do to show extreme dissaproval IC. So, I just condemn, condemn, condemn!

[OOC: You can still impose sanctions or an embargo or move to sever diplomatic ties, but that's if you're serious about showing the world you disapprove of slavery.

Then again, severing diplomatic ties can have an impact all its own, even if your entire navy numbers eight ships. LOL]
Generic empire
20-07-2004, 03:24
Official Imperial Statement-
Generia is outraged by this utter disrespect for free trade and national sovereignty. If military action ensues, we will stand by Walrica. We sincerely hope, however that it does not come to that. This is hardly a cause for bloodshed. We ask that the international community be reasonable about this.


Direct Communique to Walrica-
We sympathize with your unfortunate situation. Our trade routes and the gates of our cities are open to your merchants. If a blockade or quarantine begins, we will do what we can to bring you the goods your nation needs.
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 04:44
his buddies
Her.

did not go through the UN before placing embargos, blockades, and sanctions on your country.

I got kicked out of the UN for having more than one country in it. Of course, I didn't realize it at the time.
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 04:45
Walrica, do NOT complete these orders. I can munch these countries easily. Do not do it.
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 04:47
The Armed Republic of McGillicuttey announces it neither condemns nor condones the sale of women as wives for ugly men. However we are quite willing to supply the "fire" to "rain from the sky" or what ever other weapons you might wish to
a) Smite the evils of the horrific slave traders
or
b) Defend yourselves from the thugary of savage nationstates

reasonable prices

"Dinamite" Dave McGillicuttey
President of the Armed Republic of McGillicutty

OOC: Nice. Very, very nice. Would you be interested in a high-paying PR position in a very secretive company?
Generic empire
20-07-2004, 04:48
Direct Imperial Communique
Walrica-
Upon second consideration of the size of your opposition, we withdraw all offers of military support, but maintain the offers of other forms of assistance.
-General Josef Tayanovich
Minister of Imperial Defense
The Great Ceaser
20-07-2004, 04:56
One question.....

Where is Walrica getting all these people? I can think of several ways he COULD as a dictator/conquorer, but I don't see any within the boundries of our civilized world.
The Horned Rat
20-07-2004, 04:56
Hhhmmm, another opurtinistic nation.....

Do you want cheap, destructive weapons?
Do you want rounds that can cause cancer, mutation, or death?
Do you want "volunteers" which we have in abundance?
Do you want troops to bolster your forces?

Then come here (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=95) , everything can be modern tech, except for the space ships, mention this add, get 35% discount, orders can be customed.....
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 05:03
OOC: Do you really want to advertise YOUR slave trade in front of a 1 billion+ nation that is on a anti-slave kick?
Reidenvaal
20-07-2004, 05:18
How can you condone (Support) the sale of slaves yet support TBD who wants to stop the sale. You obviously don't know what condone means. :)

Alas, I think it is you, and many others like you, who do not quite grasp the meaning of the word condone.

We in the Grand Duch of Reidenvaal do in fact condone (in the actual sense of the word) all sorts of economic activity by other nations.

We believe in human rights, but more than that, we believe in commerce. We stand and defend no other nation, but we also scoff and laugh at silly nations who squeel in self-righteous indignation. After all, commerce such as this occurs daily in all nations, under various guises... such as courtship and marriage.
Crimmond
20-07-2004, 05:20
The Burnsian Desert and his buddies did not go through the UN before placing embargos, blockades, and sanctions on your country.
Crimmond laughs at this staement while pausing from tar and feathering the latest UN inspectors.

OOC: The UN is the biggest joke on NS now that the server issue is gone. Not even UN nations take it seriously.
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 05:23
OOC: Yeah, it is. The UN is gunna break apart, with Gatesville and all. They actually hae a pretty shrewd plan...
The Parthians
20-07-2004, 05:24
I'll buy 10,000 for Ebola weapons experiments.... send them to the Port of Hormuz in Parthia and I'll give you your 15 million. However we would like an equal mixture of males and females in healthy condition for use on testing.
Kanabia
20-07-2004, 05:33
We will buy all the women you wish to sell. Name the price and before TBD gets you.

??? Please explain that one to me, CL :/
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 05:49
OOC: He's buying all the women that Walrica wants to sell to him, before I tear Walrica apart.
The Horned Rat
20-07-2004, 12:28
oops...did I say slaves...I meant...volunteers :rolleyes: .....
Kanabia
20-07-2004, 12:31
OOC: He's buying all the women that Walrica wants to sell to him, before I tear Walrica apart.

OOC: What I meant was, he's a close ally of mine and I want him to justify that to me.
Sarzonia
20-07-2004, 14:56
OOC: Do you really want to advertise YOUR slave trade in front of a 1 billion+ nation that is on a anti-slave kick?

Senior Vice President for Internal Affairs Nicole Lewis gave the report of Walrica's continued efforts to sell slaves to President Mike Sarzo. Since Sarzo was en route to a military briefing, he told Lewis to handle it.

"But this kind of thing should come from you. Besides, Mark's the one who handles international affairs when you're not available."

"Nicole, come on. We've known each other how long? I trust you to run Sarzonia almost as well as I do. Besides, you know Mark's in Granzi City right now. You're first in line behind me anyway. I trust you'll know what to do," Sarzo said with a smile.

"I guess you're right, Mike."

"I know I'm right," Sarzo said with a false pretentiousness that made both laugh.

"I'll get right on it."

Sarzo just nodded and went on his way to the briefing.

Lewis then sent word to the Burnsian Desert.

"Unfortunately, we can not offer military support at this time because we are currently at war with Cam III," Lewis said. "However, we back you in your efforts to bring an end to this barbaric practice and we will not rule out supporting you in the event the war ends.

"It is clear that diplomatic efforts have failed and are continuing to fail. Just know that we will not stand in the way of military action on your part."

Lewis then addressed Walrica and the Generic Empire.

"To hear you whine and cry about 'national sovreignty' when you endorse a policy that laughs in the face of individual rights is hypocrisy at its worst. We strongly advise you to back away from your threats. We will have no economic or diplomatic dealings with you as long as you continue to endorse such an ancient practice. Slavery has no place in the modern world."
Kolonoi
20-07-2004, 15:15
In response to the actions taken by Walrica in the slave trade, the compassionate people of Kolonoi have reacted in outrage. Therefore, as of today Kolonoi's Parliament voted unanimously to banning all trade to and from Walrica, until this policy is reversed.

-Prime Minister Lee
-Dominion of Kolonoi
Psychotic Drummers
20-07-2004, 16:24
we need five women to be mistresses to our most exalted King Bonzo Moon, we dont care the price. we dont care bout people tearing the crap out of our country as long as our over-sexed King gets his mistress.
Dan Kerry
Private Secratary to King Bonzo Moon
Communist Louisiana
20-07-2004, 17:32
To: Kanabia
From: Premir Jindal

I am very sorry I did not post the reason why we wanted to buy these women. We do take different groups of people when they are trying to be traded as slaves or are about to be prosicuted for religious beliefs. We were going to buy these women and allow them to attain citizenship to Communist Louisiana.
The Burnsian Desert
20-07-2004, 18:11
Walrica, you will NOT complete these orders, I'm reminding you again.
East Coast Federation
20-07-2004, 19:07
We have a lack of Female Volenteers for our upcomming coloney missions.
We would like to buy 10,000 felmales.
Once they are on the Coloney they will be free.

And don't worry about deliving them once you have them ready we will beam them up to our Space Dock.
I don't care how much it costs either.
The Burnsian Desert-Do not interfere with OUR order I dont care about them,
They will get full freedom on our new coloney.
Copiosa Scotia
20-07-2004, 19:09
ATTN: Armed Republic of Walrica

You are to cease all attempts to sell your citizens immediately. Any orders already agreed upon are to be considered null and void, and any citizens remaining in your possession are to be returned to their homes and fully compensated for the ordeal. Failure to comply will result in serious consequences for your nation, up to and including: full economic sanctions against your nation, hostile takeovers of Walrican corporations by the Copiosa Scotian government, airstrikes against military targets within Walrica, and/or a naval blockade of major Walrican ports.
Generic empire
20-07-2004, 19:11
Walrica never said that these women were slaves, or were being sold against their will. They could just as easily have volunteered for this service. I suggest you find this out before continuing with unsubstantiated threats.
Procco
20-07-2004, 19:14
250 specially trained guirella fighters are being dispatched in an unknown location in southeastern Walrica.

TBD: Fighters to intercept any transfer we witness. please send any troops in two days if you wish to help
Eviltortureland
20-07-2004, 19:14
The Oppressed Peoples of Eviltotrueland is shocked and pleased at hearing of Walrica selling women, and would like to order 1,000,000 women for its military service, as well as 10,000 more every month.
Eviltortureland
20-07-2004, 19:16
The Oppressed Peoples of Eviltortureland would like to apologize for not finishing its order. We desire to have 10,00 more women every month for five years.
Jhenova
20-07-2004, 19:22
Yeah!! Youve got a great idea!!

We of jhenova request you send us 500 women so that we may put them in zoo's to be the mates of our animals! We wish to crossbreed us into a new world! Send us 50 other women so that we may beat them in our drunken rages and another 25 to torture, all is well all is well!

Pie for everyone! Except the 575 women...foolish women...send us some men too so we can even it out, we are a christian nation, so send homosexuals mostly, and people who are not christian, oh and people who dont keep up with the latest fashions, we need some of those too!

The blood for christ shall floww tonight my brothers and sisters! Hazaah!
The Horned Rat
20-07-2004, 19:25
Wow, your screwed up(this coming from a nation built on slaves, mutating animals, crossbreeding the foresaid), if anything results from the cross breeding, will it be for sale?
Sarzonia
20-07-2004, 19:51
Walrica never said that these women were slaves, or were being sold against their will. They could just as easily have volunteered for this service. I suggest you find this out before continuing with unsubstantiated threats.

Lewis was getting really irritated now. It was all she could do to keep from screaming into the communications device. Finally, she called President Mike Sarzo after he returned from his briefing.

"Sarzo."

"Mike, listen to this." She played the Generic empire's statement.

Sarzo tsked.

"What should we do about it? It doesn't seem as though diplomacy is working."

"Right now, we've got too much on our plate militarily. Have you contacted the Burnsian Desert to express our support?"

"Yes."

"Good. I'll see what I can do."

"Thanks Mike."

"Thank you Nicole."

With that, Sarzo sent a statement to the Generic empire.

It is not for us to research to determine whether women are willingly offering themselves up for sale. It is up to you to prove that they are not being coerced, directly or otherwise. We will refuse to have any economic or diplomatic relations with you until you withdraw your support for this sale. We will not rule out further action if we deem it necessary to prevent this barbaric act.
Bel-shamaroth
20-07-2004, 20:03
i would like to order 10 virgins every month for our sacrifises to the gods.
The Horned Rat
20-07-2004, 20:16
Rotflamo
Copiosa Scotia
20-07-2004, 20:18
Walrica never said that these women were slaves, or were being sold against their will. They could just as easily have volunteered for this service. I suggest you find this out before continuing with unsubstantiated threats.

Walrican officials have yet to deny it, and they've had ample opportunity to do so. If these women truly volunteered to be sold -- an absurd notion -- the Walrican government could have saved itself a good deal of trouble by demonstrating that the service was voluntary.
Bel-shamaroth
20-07-2004, 20:21
i need these for honest reasons
for crops, freedom etc
Psychotic Drummers
20-07-2004, 21:54
i would like to order 10 virgins every month for our sacrifises to the gods.
aye same order for me, but we dont need for sacrifices
East Coast Federation
20-07-2004, 21:56
Yeah you got the right idea throw in 10 virgins for me plus my order of 10,000,I'm more into cute than sexy women.
Solid Water
20-07-2004, 23:16
Solid water condemns The Burnsian Desert's interference in another country's affairs and demands that TBD acknowledge and respect the sovereignty of Walrica. We do not acknowledge support for wither side, but we are horrified that TBD would intervene in another country's affairs and, especially, the world free market. I shudder to think what the world would be like if the world market was dictated by a few dictators who are self-righteous and do not respect other countries.
Copiosa Scotia
20-07-2004, 23:40
Solid water condemns The Burnsian Desert's interference in another country's affairs and demands that TBD acknowledge and respect the sovereignty of Walrica. We do not acknowledge support for wither side, but we are horrified that TBD would intervene in another country's affairs and, especially, the world free market. I shudder to think what the world would be like if the world market was dictated by a few dictators who are self-righteous and do not respect other countries.

"Ah, the sovereignty argument. A favorite of those who refuse to acknowledge that the rights of people come before the rights of governments."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Sarzonia
20-07-2004, 23:57
Solid water condemns The Burnsian Desert's interference in another country's affairs and demands that TBD acknowledge and respect the sovereignty of Walrica. We do not acknowledge support for wither side, but we are horrified that TBD would intervene in another country's affairs and, especially, the world free market. I shudder to think what the world would be like if the world market was dictated by a few dictators who are self-righteous and do not respect other countries.

Sarzonia is outraged at the implication that Solid Water condones slavery and mistreatment of citizens and would prefer a nation trample on individual rights to that country losing its precious "sovreignty."

We have made our position on Walrica's barbaric actions perfectly clear and we shall continue to do so by denouncing any diplomatic or economic ties with the country as long as that act continues.

The act of slavery has no place in a modern world. We strongly advise Walrica to cease the practice.
Central Facehuggeria
21-07-2004, 00:07
"Ah, the sovereignty argument. A favorite of those who refuse to acknowledge that the rights of people come before the rights of governments."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs

"Ahh, the classic counterarguement. The rights of governments naturally come before the rights of people. The needs of the many (governments) override the needs of the few (people.) If a small amount of people needed to be sacrificed for a cure to cancer, any sane government would create the cure. Thus sacrificing a small number of people for the greater good.

The Walrican situation is fairly similar. They are forced to sell some of their excess population (who probably would have been on the streets anyway) into slavery for a better standard of living for the rest of the inhabitants." -Furher Gustav, Leader of the Nazi Utopia. 'On Slaves and States'
Solid Water
21-07-2004, 00:33
Sarzonia is outraged at the implication that Solid Water condones slavery and mistreatment of citizens and would prefer a nation trample on individual rights to that country losing its precious "sovreignty."

Solid Water made no such claim as to condone slavery. If you remember correctly (and go back and reread) you will see that I am merely promoting free trade.

Also, you have no information as to who these people are, be they "citizens" or not, or even if they are slaves.

Furthermore, do you realize that if a country loses is sovreignty, the citizens also lose their rights? If you attack Walrica, you will be mistreating the citizens that will go to defend the country. You will be, as you put it, "trampling on individual rights," if you trample on the rights of the nation as a whole.

Those being sold have never asked for your help, they have never pleaded for freedom or exemption from this practice. If the people want your help, they will ask for it. It is irrational for you to assume the people need "saving."

Solid Water wishes to make our point clear, especially to those that would attack Walrica because they are doing something you do not want them to, do not be a needless vigilante.
Sarzonia
21-07-2004, 00:46
Solid Water made no such claim as to condone slavery. If you remember correctly (and go back and reread) you will see that I am merely promoting free trade.

[OOC: Since I take that comment to be an OOC slam, I'll start by responding OOC. I read your initial response loud and clear. I am well aware of every word you put in there.]

If you choose to talk about threats to sovreignty, I wish to address your veiled threat to Sarzonian sovreignty. In addition, I did not expressly say you condoned slavery. I said that your statement implies that you condone slavery. There is an enormous difference.

At this point, our government has a position of not establishing any economic or diplomatic relations with Walrica. We do not currently have relations with Walrica severing diplomatic ties or participating in an embargo against Walrica would only serve as a symbolic gesture with no substantive meaning. Walrica has also, for whatever reason, chosen not to deny that the women are slaves.

This is hardly a matter of sovreignty. Countries may not treat their citizens any way they choose without international repurcussions.

Generic Empire, on the other hand expressly condones the practice of slavery and has reacted in that vein. It is for that reason that we focus most of our energies on their actions throughout this sad state of affairs.
Solid Water
21-07-2004, 01:17
[OOC: Actually that was all IC. I mark OOC comments with an OOC tag, but that's not very important at the moment.]

Solid Water has no intention of violating Sarzonian sovreignty. We fully understand the reasons that Sarzonia would state as ther pretext to attacking Walrica, and will not take action against Sarzonia unless Sarzonia expressivley takes action against Solid Water.

Countries have the freedom to treat their citizens how they wish, unless they are in an agreement not to (such as a treaty). If you wish to send your people to do war with Walrica, or if you wish to send your people in the Navy out to blockade Walrica, so be it. But know that you are endangering your people as well, for we are under the impression that Walrica will not take these events lightly and will do their best to remove your influence from their nation.

As said, Solid Water will not participate in either side's affairs any longer, however, it shall be known that we are for an open market.

[OOC: That said, I think we should wait for Walrica to post something about the people they are selling. Such as, where they came from, are they willing, how they are treated, etc.

On a slightly related note, the US Justice System is biased so that "anyone may do anything so long as what they do does not interfere with the right of others to do what they want to do."

Meaning, that if the people are willing to be sold (poor conditions in home country and the like may be reasons), and Walrica is willing to sell them, that does not treat anyone unfairly.]
Hamonious Discord
21-07-2004, 01:36
Though we are a small, politically insignificant nation, we most emphatically support Walrica in it's freedom to engage in any business it chooses. Of course, by the same token, our currency is the peasant, so how could we take a different position.

We have no army, navy or any thing worth embargoing. Go ahead, wipe me from the face of the earth.....

:sniper:
Copiosa Scotia
21-07-2004, 01:42
Those being sold have never asked for your help, they have never pleaded for freedom or exemption from this practice. If the people want your help, they will ask for it. It is irrational for you to assume the people need "saving."

"The people have been given no chance to speak. If Walrica can conclusively demonstrate that these people are being sold of their own free will, we will withdraw our demands."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Discordia Magna
21-07-2004, 01:43
would you like a new wife? can't be bothered to go out and find one? well here's the revolutionary service mail order wives .Prices starting at £1500 we have a wide range of wives in differant shapes and sizes. A pretty wife for a ugly man well you have come to the right place, no obligation to buy and guarranted to be discrete

The Dominion of Discordia Magna approves SO LONG as both female and seller mutally consent, w/o coersion, to said transaction.

Hail Eris!
Callisdrun
21-07-2004, 01:46
After much deliberation over how to deal with this gross affront to human rights, the government of Callisdrun has come to a decision.

We will buy all of them. That's right. Every last one. We will pay handsomely.

Upon their arrival in Callisdrun, they will be given a Callisdrunian education and citizenship upon completion of the education program. They will not be used as slaves or any such thing whatsoever. The fact that we are not buying them for your intended purpose should not concern you, wish to make money, we intend to pay it. Since Callisdrun is already at war, attacking Walrica was not an option, and since we have no significant trade or relations with Walrica, embargo would also have no real effect. So we're going to buy all of them and free them.
Generic empire
21-07-2004, 01:46
Lewis was getting really irritated now. It was all she could do to keep from screaming into the communications device. Finally, she called President Mike Sarzo after he returned from his briefing.

"Sarzo."

"Mike, listen to this." She played the Generic empire's statement.

Sarzo tsked.

"What should we do about it? It doesn't seem as though diplomacy is working."

"Right now, we've got too much on our plate militarily. Have you contacted the Burnsian Desert to express our support?"

"Yes."

"Good. I'll see what I can do."

"Thanks Mike."

"Thank you Nicole."

With that, Sarzo sent a statement to the Generic empire.

It is not for us to research to determine whether women are willingly offering themselves up for sale. It is up to you to prove that they are not being coerced, directly or otherwise. We will refuse to have any economic or diplomatic relations with you until you withdraw your support for this sale. We will not rule out further action if we deem it necessary to prevent this barbaric act.

That was not a threat in any way. We apologize if it was read that way. It was merely a thought. We support you and the Burnsian Desert's campaign against slavery wholeheartedly. Again we apologize for the misunderstanding.
Communist Mississippi
21-07-2004, 01:58
"Ah, the sovereignty argument. A favorite of those who refuse to acknowledge that the rights of people come before the rights of governments."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs



"People exist to service the state."

- Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs. July 2nd, 2004


"The main purpose of any government should be to make sure that the citizens are properly able to serve the state and work to for the greater glory of the state or the man who personifies the state. In our case, our state is personified by Premier Curtis Fabus. Every man, woman, and child in Mississippi must realize that they exist to do the bidding of Curtis Fabus. Curtis Fabus is the state."

-Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs. July 3rd, 2004
Generic empire
21-07-2004, 02:00
We will join Sarzonia and The Burnsian Desert in condemning the act of slavery. Slavery is an affront to human rights, and an utterly barbaric practice in itself. However, we do wish to avoid bloodshed, and therefore hope that Walrica can show us that these women are not slaves, but willing participants in this trade. Again, by saying this we mean no offense in any way to either Sarzonia or the Burnsian Desert. We merely want to avoid a war.
-Georg Maccek
Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs
Katganistan
21-07-2004, 02:05
Are You All Really Such F- Ing Dense @$$ Hole Retards?????? There Are No Women For Sale! There Never Were Any Women For Sale! There Are Not Gonna Be Any, So Shut Up!

OOC: 1)Pssssssssssst. It's called Role-Playing. 2)Slavery is alive and well in the real world.
Sarzonia
21-07-2004, 03:29
[QUOTE=Solid Water][OOC: Actually that was all IC. I mark OOC comments with an OOC tag, but that's not very important at the moment.]

[OOC: That (and go back and re-read) led me to believe that it was an OOC comment. Sorry I misinterpreted it and misunderstood your intent.

As for United States policy, it's very helpful to know that (where'd you get the info, BTW?), but I don't RP my country exactly like the United States.]
Sarzonia
21-07-2004, 03:32
We will join Sarzonia and The Burnsian Desert in condemning the act of slavery. Slavery is an affront to human rights, and an utterly barbaric practice in itself. However, we do wish to avoid bloodshed, and therefore hope that Walrica can show us that these women are not slaves, but willing participants in this trade. Again, by saying this we mean no offense in any way to either Sarzonia or the Burnsian Desert. We merely want to avoid a war.
-Georg Maccek
Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs

[OOC: Holy Toledo, this changes things dramatically!

How did your government come to this about-face?]
Generic empire
21-07-2004, 03:35
[OOC: Holy Toledo, this changes things dramatically!

How did your government come to this about-face?]

((OOC: Actually, we are allied with the Burnsian Desert. We were never active proponents of slavery, but most people misread our intentions. When TBD told us by tg to remove our support for Walrica, we did so, but you must have missed the post. After that Generia had very little to do with the situation, save that one post which you misread as a threat. This escalated quickly without my attention.))
Sarzonia
21-07-2004, 03:54
((OOC: Actually, we are allied with the Burnsian Desert. We were never active proponents of slavery, but most people misread our intentions. When TBD told us by tg to remove our support for Walrica, we did so, but you must have missed the post. After that Generia had very little to do with the situation, save that one post which you misread as a threat. This escalated quickly without my attention.))

[OOC: I guess I did miss the post. Thanks for the clarification.]
Copiosa Scotia
21-07-2004, 04:12
"People exist to service the state."

- Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs. July 2nd, 2004

"Absurd. The state is a creation of the people. Should the creator serve his or her creation? Hardly. It is the place of the creation to serve the creator; in this case, it is the place of the government to serve the people by protecting their lives and liberties."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Sarzonia
21-07-2004, 04:56
"Absurd. The state is a creation of the people. Should the creator serve his or her creation? Hardly. It is the place of the creation to serve the creator; in this case, it is the place of the government to serve the people by protecting their lives and liberties."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs

We concur with our colleagues in Copiosa Scotia on their interpretation of the role of the state versus the role of the people. That interpretation governs the way Sarzonia operates.

We would also like to explore the possibilities of establishing diplomatic ties with Copiosa Scotia.
Solid Water
21-07-2004, 05:07
[OOC: Actually that quote about the bias of the US Justice System was from one of my friends who one day decided to find the bias. I think that pretty much sums the system up.

Meanwhile, I'll hang back ICly until there is more information.]
Kanabia
21-07-2004, 05:48
To: Kanabia
From: Premir Jindal

I am very sorry I did not post the reason why we wanted to buy these women. We do take different groups of people when they are trying to be traded as slaves or are about to be prosicuted for religious beliefs. We were going to buy these women and allow them to attain citizenship to Communist Louisiana.

We understand. We thought this might have been the case, but without any knowledge, we didn't know what to think.
The Burnsian Desert
21-07-2004, 06:10
OOC: Well, this exploded. Has anyone noticed, or has Walrica gone inactive?

IC:

We thank all nations that are supporting our cause. We will make sure that the selling of innocent lives ceases, and ceases immediately.
Communist Mississippi
21-07-2004, 06:46
"Absurd. The state is a creation of the people. Should the creator serve his or her creation? Hardly. It is the place of the creation to serve the creator; in this case, it is the place of the government to serve the people by protecting their lives and liberties."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs


"The nation must come before the individual. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The nation is the many, and as such the people must service the state so that the nation can advance."

Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Bel-shamaroth
21-07-2004, 10:22
i would like to take back my order of 10 virgins per month. the lord has provided us with all we need and has told us to condem slavery and all other of satans works.
Great White Snowy Lake
21-07-2004, 12:24
OOC: Well, this exploded. Has anyone noticed, or has Walrica gone inactive?

IC:

We thank all nations that are supporting our cause. We will make sure that the selling of innocent lives ceases, and ceases immediately.

We have been watching this situation escalate for over five minutes now.

As both a delegate of the United Nations and a citizen of a nation devoted towards the belief that liberty is an essential condition towards improving the quality of an average human being's life, the People's Republic of Great White Snowy Lake cannot willfully stand by and simply watch another nation profit through the trade and declared physical ownership of other human beings.

We are sending diplomatic teams to the nations of Walrica and the Burnsian Desert in an effort to resolve, contain or dismantle the public slave trade while minimizing all possible bloodshed. These teams will arrive within 24 hours of this posted message.

Thank you,

Senator John Randall Hearst, Communist Party - State of Valarius
Senator Kazim Mohammed, Ph.D., Party of God - State of Samson
Wong Ma Zhu, M.S., Junior Director, Federal Enforcement Agency
Lt. Cmdr. Bryan Flies-Like-Wind, Great White Snowy Lake Army
General Kenneth Ga Mao, Great White Snowy Lake Navy
Boobkakistan
21-07-2004, 16:30
Thanks for the Catalogs. Your selection is better than I thought. Transmitting order now for "20" from the Busty Vixen section and "13" from Asian Temptress. Please include overnight shipping and handleing charges.
Good doing business with you.

Czar Ragnarr Von Venomish
Boobkakistan
Communist Mississippi
21-07-2004, 23:44
"Absurd. The state is a creation of the people. Should the creator serve his or her creation? Hardly. It is the place of the creation to serve the creator; in this case, it is the place of the government to serve the people by protecting their lives and liberties."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs


Paul Stahlecker suggests "How about we discuss the roles of government in relations to the people over lunch at my estate?"


(Occ- He's a notorious womanizer, and assuming your secretary of foreign affairs is a woman, from her name I assume that. And from her name I assume she is from central europe, and thus is a white woman, Stahlecker would like to invite her over for lunch and see if he can talk her into staying for dinner and breakfast :) )
Red Tide2
22-07-2004, 00:20
OOC:Now people... before we get our panties in a wad, may I ask the qeustion: Where is Walrica? Why hasnt he responded?
The Burnsian Desert
22-07-2004, 01:09
OOC: He probably has things to do.
Copiosa Scotia
22-07-2004, 02:50
Paul Stahlecker suggests "How about we discuss the roles of government in relations to the people over lunch at my estate?"


(Occ- He's a notorious womanizer, and assuming your secretary of foreign affairs is a woman, from her name I assume that. And from her name I assume she is from central europe, and thus is a white woman, Stahlecker would like to invite her over for lunch and see if he can talk her into staying for dinner and breakfast :) )

"I'm sorry; I have some rather pressing matters of state to attend to."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 03:01
"I'm sorry; I have some rather pressing matters of state to attend to."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs


"You'd get to meet our Premier. Do you have any idea how many CM citizens are just dying to meet the Premier."

Paul Stahlecker, CM Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Communist Mississippi
22-07-2004, 03:34
We need 10 million right wing white women willing to move to Mississippian Egypt and take part in arranged marriages. We need to increase the white population of Mississippian Egypt.

We only want women willing to go, no slaves and nothing involuntary. Name the price for providing these services.


On another note, we're sending 10 million white males from Mississippi to Mississippian Egypt.

If the 10 million white males and 10 million white females get there okay, it will bring the total white population of ME to 30 million. The Arab population of ME is currently approximately 30 million.