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Jackson City, Belecus

Premier Peter Jackson smiled when his council of Generals learned of the plans he had. As an autocratic nation, the protectorate of Belecus was under his party's leadership, and the people had very little to say about the politics of the small nation. In the national mitalia, there were some 250 000 men in the army. Of these, there were some 62 500 fighting soldiers. Of course, there was the 500 000 Austar Union soldiers that were put under his leadership, to protect the new nation.

Laughing, one of the Generals spoke up, "So who would say that the Austar Union would support this bold move?"

Premier Jackson winked, "They probably wouldnt officially. I mean, generally the motherland is against imperialism. Of course, they would turn a blind eye when it means others are fighting for more land to add to their territory."

The General spoke up again, "And what of the soldiers that we have under our control? Wouldnt we need them in our campaign?"

Premier Jackson nodded, "Yes, but remember, they put them under our command previous to the upcoming war. So in actuallity, if they were to say, ignore our efforts, and continue with the plan of protecting our nation, then we would be able to tell the world that the Austar Union isnt involved, which in fact would be true."

"Ah, using the truth to push through our own arguements of justification I see," replied the General, "A clever manoever."

Pulling out a pen, Premier Jackson signed the decree, "If you dont mind me saying so Mr. Falks, we will gain our land. We landed here as one of the first, I think we ought to get first rights to what land we get here."

Two Days Later...

As soldiers began to amass on the Belecus - Morath Claim Border, the General cries could be heard over a loudspeaker;

"Children of Belecus! Hear our cries! You all know we were one of the first to land here, and here we shall stay! You all know of the threats that lie on the other side of that border. The evil lie in wait, waiting for a chance to take our claim from us! Let us purge the evil which we all fear! Let us take the land which was stolen from us! Brothers, we came here to get this land, and others came to steal it from us! Now it is time that we take our land back from the evil-ones! May god bless Belecus, and may God Bless the Union!"

The mass of soldiers erupted into a roar of voices. Spirits were high, and most believed that they had a supreme right to the land which the Morathania had claimed as the Jefferson Colony. With that, flags were raised, and 200 000 soldiers began to cross the border...

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Message to the New Continent, and to the Global Community----------------------------------------

[I]Over the next few weeks, the Global Community will see a period of "expansion" over the new Continent in Eropid. Please do not mistake this for an attempt at a landgrab, but please view this as an attempt to take the land back which was stolen from us. We had people in those areas, and as the original discovers of the new Continent, I would think that it would be our right to have first claim to territory. However, it seems as if others have taken that right from us, and that we are now here, taking the land back which was rightfully ours. We had people in the areas we are taking back, and by God, we wont abandon them. Please, give your diplomatic support to us, as we only wish to re-unite families, and to re-kindle the dream which was stolen from our fathers.
In God We Trust,

The Protectorate of Belecus
A Colony-Nation of the Republic of Austar Union[i]

OOC: TAG, and YES this is my puppet ;)

Any expansion into our sovereign territory will be taken as an act of war against Morathania and all its allies. I suggest your troops turn around before they are met with resistance from myself and my allies. This is your one and only warning. I do not want a war but if I am forced into it my imperialist and expansionist forces so be it.


Soldiers began flooding into Jefferson International Airport and Coventry Regional. Both were their to hold back the tide of Austar and their puppet Belucus. Overnight the soldiers stationed in the Colony of Jefferson went from only 20,000 to over 175,000 thanks to over 620 flights between Jefferson and the Morathanian mainland. Complete with tanks and artillery the entire 1st army corps was in Jefferson and the 8th was gouing to fly in within the 3 days. The site was almost amazing.

Troops moved east of Coventry, about 145,000 troops, as many as could be used.
"We are up against an enemy. An enemy that wants to force us out of land that is rightfully ours. Stand fast men make sure that this day will not be the day when Morathania was let down. Make sure that this day is not the day when people will say that Morathania failed. This is the day when Morathania will be victorious. This is the day when we will protect Jefferson from the totalitarian hoards of Belesus. This is the day we ensure that democracy keeps a toe hold on this small land. This is the day we fight for country and for honor," said Lt. Gen. Albert C. McMichaels in his speech to the troops. His troops, those of the 1st army corps waited for the enemy to arrive.

Camewot is watching this with great interest, on one side we have the Austar Union who is an ally..
On the other side we have our fellow VA member.

The Ministry has taken a wise decision, we will aid our ally Morathania if this comes to a conflict.
The Quick Reaction Force from the Victoria Alliance will be put on standby.

The following are gonna arive in the next 48 hours.

20,000 troops including 5,000 of the elite experdionary force
5000 Camewottian Special Ops
1000 Camewottian Peacekeepers

To be transported by:

20 C-5 Galaxy Transport planes
10 Armoured Medical Evacuation

I will send the 1st Marines 5,000 men, Pure infantry
12th Marines 5,000 men, 1250 Tanks, Pure Tank Cavalry
2nd Arkala Detachment 500 men, with 1st Marines

Total 10,500 men and women!

The fed union is extremaly alramed by this event .... and as a VA member we are pledged to defend another member thus we are sneding forces in to compleat the task
forces deployed :
250 ,000 Troops
15,000 marines
5 Armoured devison's
5 mech inf devison's
10 B-52's
10 B-2's
10 B1's
50 Typhoon fighter bombers
25 super Typhoon fighter bombers.

5 new york class super battle ships
5 boston class super battle ships
10 lexington class heavy cruisers
10 hammer head subs
5 nexus carriers
3 Lincon class super carriers
5 defnder class ships
15 perry MK 3 frigates
5 Agusta class missle destoryers
5 Sea wolf class subs

said forces have been dispached and will arrive shortly.

Whittier is committing 500 F117's to support the Victoria Alliance on this matter.
OOC: Some one in the VA can rp the moves of those fighters when I am not here.

OOC: As the Defence Minister, I will.

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Official Response from the Union
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The Federal Government in the Austar Union is shocked at this blatent move of aggression shown by Peter Jackson. Unfortunatly, attempts to send communications to him have failed, otherwise our communication attempts have been ignored by his government.

We have several officials in Belecus attempting to find out exactly whats happening with Mr. Jackson, however I feel that he may have gone a bit insane. We have researched his medical history, and it sounds as if he go's through periods of psycosis. Unfortunatly, he has some 500 000 troops at his disposal, of which we cannot seem to contact for unknown reasons.

Please be advised, do not breach Belecus borders. Although you may fend off the invasion, you are not free to occupy the land, as we are the official owners of the territory. We will research further into the matter and find out exactly whats going on, but friends, it appears as if we have a mad-leader on our hands.

President Madison
The Republic of Austar Union

Official Response


We accept that it is not you who controls this madman, but unfortunately we will shoot at AU soldiers who trespass Morathanian borders.

Jackson City, Belecus

Premier Peter Jackson laughed when he heard the reports of the Victoria Alliance aiding the small claim of land. His wife walked in angry, "Peter! Have you taken your medication?!"

Peter nodded innocently, "Yes babe... Leave me now."

Once she left, he began to laugh again, apparently for no reason. His Generals could handle the situation easily.

Along the Frontline

The Beleci Army, with the Austarian Army under its control pushed forward at a frightening pace. So far, no resistance had been counted, and they were already nearing the first major city. Fighters roared overhead, and already in the distance, the explosions from airstrikes could be heard. There was definate damage being done, and with the airstrikes being rotated, it would be extensive.

At a frightening speed, they took ground. This was almost unprecedented. Nevertheless, some resistance was expected soon, but not before they had taken considerable ground in the enemy territory.

OOC: Im waiting for Morathania to post first untill I begin bombings.

In the meantime, back in the Protectorate of Belecus...

"Rise Up Children of Belecus! Children of Jackson City, RISE! Your brothers on the frontline need your help! They are calling upon you for assistance! There may be a war fought on our soil brothers. For that, we will fight for every street! Every inch of Beleci soil! They will pay brothers, and they will pay in BLOOD!"

This was just one of many slogans that were put out into the population of Beleci. As a new nation, they were fiercly armed, and fiercly patriotic. It seemed that at the conscription office, thousands were lining up to be conscripted, rather than being forced. Their nation was more imporatant than themselves, and they were willing to die for it.

Within a few days, 500 000 capable bodied men and women would have been conscripted, and given a standard issue weapon to send to the frontline. This was a very expected promise. The rest of the population, would be armed and ready for any invaders that decided to enter the wrong way in.

OOC: Im waiting for Morathania to post first untill I begin bombings.

OOC: I think you would have to actually roleplay their arrival into the area before you can begin them. You said on msn that you were going to do that remember ;)

*taggage*

On becoming a much larger power on the international stage, we would like to put our name up higher by supporting the people in Belicus. Therefore, over the next few weeks, we will be sending 1 000 000 Troops to Belicus to help in their war against Victoria Alliance.

The will be placed under the command of the President of Belicus as soon as they arrive, which will be in 5 Real hours.

Premier Peter Jackson thanks the Yellek Straights for their contribution toward the cause of which we fight for. Although we have not had dealings with them in the past, we are glad to have their support.

Belecus thanks you.

No probs =)

Soldiers began flooding into Jefferson International Airport and Coventry Regional. Both were their to hold back the tide of Austar and their puppet Belucus. Overnight the soldiers stationed in the Colony of Jefferson went from only 20,000 to over 175,000 thanks to over 620 flights between Jefferson and the Morathanian mainland. Complete with tanks and artillery the entire 1st army corps was in Jefferson and the 8th was gouing to fly in within the 3 days. The site was almost amazing.



OOC

You do realise that 620 flights in 12 hours means one landing every 52 seconds for the whole 12 hours?

No airport could possibly sustain that rate.

Add to that, please specify what aircraft is capable of transhipping tanks and artilliery.

IC

The Grand Shark was indolently picking bits of flesh from his teeth as he watched another snivelling wretch being put to the question.

An aide directed his attention to the handy video phone.

"Yes?"

"My Lord, reports are coming in of improbable numbers of troops being moved into Morathia"

"Ah, more despised godmodders at work, eh - send Fleet Echo to deal with them."

All about concealed undersea bases, the components of Fleet Echo made ready to depart.

Then the sleek black shapes slid below the surface of the sea.

Fleet Echo:

Eight Vanguard Class nuclear SSBN/SSGN. Two are armed with Trident D5 nuclear SLBMs, the other six contain a classified mixture of Tomahawk cruise missiles (7 per missile tube), Righteous Wrath heavy antiship missiles (3 per missile tube) and Hovering Hawk AEW radar and anti-air systems (6 BVR AAMs per Hovering Hawk).

Eight Trafalgar class nuclear attack submarines, armed with a mixture of Tomahawks, Spearfish torpedoes and sail-mounted Blowpipe SAMs.

Sixteen Swiftsure class nuclear attack submarines, armed with Spearfish, Blowpipe and Distant Sword undersea antisub missile systems. Tasked to escort the Vanguards.

On becoming a much larger power on the international stage, we would like to put our name up higher by supporting the people in Belicus. Therefore, over the next few weeks, we will be sending 1 000 000 Troops to Belicus to help in their war against Victoria Alliance.

The will be placed under the command of the President of Belicus as soon as they arrive, which will be in 5 Real hours.


OOC: Are you aware you are getting 1/4th of youre armie on this?
Also, how will they get there, getting 1 million men ready in 5 hours isent an easy task...

OOC

You do realise that 620 flights in 12 hours means one landing every 52 seconds for the whole 12 hours?

No airport could possibly sustain that rate.

Add to that, please specify what aircraft is capable of transhipping tanks and artilliery.

IC

The Grand Shark was indolently picking bits of flesh from his teeth as he watched another snivelling wretch being put to the question.

An aide directed his attention to the handy video phone.

"Yes?"

"My Lord, reports are coming in of improbable numbers of troops being moved into Morathia"

"Ah, more despised godmodders at work, eh - send Fleet Echo to deal with them."

All about concealed undersea bases, the components of Fleet Echo made ready to depart.

Then the sleek black shapes slid below the surface of the sea.

Fleet Echo:

Eight Vanguard Class nuclear SSBN/SSGN. Two are armed with Trident D5 nuclear SLBMs, the other six contain a classified mixture of Tomahawk cruise missiles (7 per missile tube), Righteous Wrath heavy antiship missiles (3 per missile tube) and Hovering Hawk AEW radar and anti-air systems (6 BVR AAMs per Hovering Hawk).

Eight Trafalgar class nuclear attack submarines, armed with a mixture of Tomahawks, Spearfish torpedoes and sail-mounted Blowpipe SAMs.

Sixteen Swiftsure class nuclear attack submarines, armed with Spearfish, Blowpipe and Distant Sword undersea antisub missile systems. Tasked to escort the Vanguards.

OOC: My F117's await you


IC:

In Morathania

Sir, sir!

What?

Theres a fleet coming...

Oh, ok, no problem

250 F117's raise, to find this fleet...
Once they find it, they quickly bomb the fleet in a first volley, quickly returning for a second and a thirth

OOC: Respond with defense.

Any invasion of Kingdom land will result in swift reprisals.

The troops now consisiting of 175,000 men consisting of 145,000 regulars and 30,000 Jefferson paramilitary militia. They had made a a defensive ring around the city. At 3:25 pm the attack started. Bellesus infantry advancing forward through the jungle stumbled upon the first column of the defense 65 miles NW of Coventry. It was a line of tanks strenching along a line 35 miles long. Consisting of over 250 MBTs and over 75 Striker/Knight artillery pieces they effectively wiped out 65% of Bellesus's first attack. Morathania lost 3400 men mostly infantry in reserve positions around the tank line and on the flanks of the line.

Simutaneously on the left flank 135 miles West of Coventry a group of 35,000 local Jefferson Militia from the area around Coventry had been holding back a group of of around 60,000 Bellesus infantry from the 4th infantry division through surprise attacks and raids and constant sniper fire. Earliest casualty report indicate 1,000 militia have been killed to about 5600 Bellesusian.

At 15:45 A group of 6 F-104 Starfighter, 5 F-4 Phantoms, 4 A-4s and 3 B-47s, ancient planes replaced from front line service before the war and sent to Jefferson, where able to evade detection by flying low through the small Coastal Range.

At 16:35 they spotted a major portion of the army advancing toward Coventry. A began a bombing run. Bellesus fighters which where in small dogfights over fighting about 100 miles SE had to turn back to intercept the strike force.

At 16:48 After all bombs where successfully dropped on target the force was intercepted by Bellesus fighters. All but 4 aircraft out of the original 17, 2 F-104s, an F-4, and a B-47 where left to limp home to the McClurey AFB outside of Jefferson City.

OOC: Some info because these are older planes. B-47 carries 20,000 pounds of bombs. A-4 carries 9,155 pounds of bombs. I meant overnight in the figurative not literal sense of the word. And anyway An-124s, C-5s, and AN-225s are all capable of transporting tanks and other heavy equipment. How do you think Quick Reaction Forces Operate, in the RL. SHip transport is much easier and much less of a hassle but for fast transport airplanes are the only option. I had to get a large amount of troops a good distance within a short period of time or my colony would be in the ash heap of history. And another thing do you have supersonic ships they got to Morathania territorial waters quite quickly. And a question for you, where is your fleet heading towards Morathania proper or toward the colony?

OOC: Thank God I'm nowhere near your land...

OOC: Rose, didn't Attica annex your colony in the Eropid thread?

No he didn't.

<News Dispatch. Morathania News Service>
Early reports show that a total of 98,371 Jeffersonian colonists have joined the militia since the invasion. Mostly small farmers and people with rifles these militia will operate in coordination with the Morathanian Armed Forces. The ranks of the militia has grown from 20,000 now to about 100,000 after the heroic efforts of militiamen in Northwestern Jefferson. Currently about 60% of these militia units have been dispatched to frontline and forward position while the rest are staying in reserve or patrolling the other borders of Jefferson.

Currently their is fierce fighting west and Northwest of Coventry which is 127 miles Nw along the coast from Jefferson City and about 45 miles from the border. Earlier today their was a pitched battle outside the small hamlet of Torquey [OOC: described earlier] in which the invaders were not able to gain anymore ground. After initial bombing after 3:00 today newly arrived Morathanian fighters and bombers working with territorial aircraft and aircraft from the Victoria Alliance were able to sustain heavy bombings all day and while they have yet to achieve air superiority the bombing campaigns have been sucessful enough to warrent heavy losses for Belesus. Morathania losses have also been heavy. Currently 18,000 men are dead or wounded.
<End Wire>

The Confederacy of Bostopia wishes to announce its support for Morathania against Belesus, as Bostopia sees no proper reason for Belesus to claim land. Unfortunately, Bostopia does not have many land troops available as we are currently engaged in regional hostilities. We shall instead be sending Air Squadrons, comprising of 2 bomber groups and 4 fighter groups, with 12 aircraft in each. Our fighters are the latest available, BAF729's, equipped with missiles designed to track the fumes from engines not of Bostopian design. Our Bombers are BAF280's, capable of delivering any payload. Bostopia's Air Men and Women will be under the command of Morathanian Defence Heads. However, Bostopia reserves the right to be able to pull its squadrons out of deployment if the situation closer to our border becomes worse.

These forces will hopefully arrive in 9 hours, we apologise in the delay, but, you must understand that we need to fuel our aircraft which were hastily prepared, and also, the long flight distance between our respective nations.

I would like to extend a warm thank you to all nations currently Supporting the Federation of Morathania. I hope my nation will be able to win this war with your help.

[This is slightly OOC:]
I would like to also say that this war is illegal. Their were no Austarian colonists or explorers in Morathanian territory at the time of colonization. All residents of Jefferson now are Morathanian citizens and were emigrants from Morathania itself. This is an expansionist/imperialist land grab that is thinly veiled with this aura of bringing the brothers together. Their never were or never have been any Austarian colonies in Morathanian territory. Our actions were legal. You annouce your discovery of a new continent and don't expect other countries to stake claims and make new colonies. This is all a sham. This is a way for Austar and Attica to gain more power and prestige in this new territory by cowering all those who are not puppets of Austar or Attica into fear of military invasion. Columbus Discovered America but that doesn't mean that the whole American continent must belong to the Spainish. If we were under that thinking in RL than why don't we give Newfoundland back to Norway or Denmark because the Vikings were the first to land their. The statement that this territory is rightly ours is a thin veil over the ugly face of expansionism and imperialism. I call on all nations to see this as an illegal war and that Belesus's reasons for going to war were a sham.

The first defense had been reached. The City of Covenus was only a near target. Overhead, as enemy bombers tried to reach them, they were being targeted by Fighters. It was an easy show.

On the ground, the forces had now split up into squads. In one squad, David Jones lie accross the ground. He, like others was very experienced with guns, especially of the submachine gun assort. In fact, back in army training, he, like others was ranked highly in several competitions. Most people who went into the army achieved top levels.

As he lay along the ground, he loads his rifle, and raised it. An enemy soldier's head appeared in the undergrowth. Aiming with his scope, David fired. Again, he turned to another and fired, turned and fired, turned and fired. It was shocking how many he could shoot at. Nevertheless, he was not alone. All around him, and in the general area, the exact same was happening. As enemy soldiers continued falling, so did the occasional Beleci soldier. But overall, they kept pushing eastward, into the outskirts of Coventry. This could very well be a street battle soon.

Overhead, in a small fighter-bomber, the pilot looked down, 'Jeepers, they're falling down everywhere!'

Shrugging, he piloted the aircraft to over an area where the enemy troops were most concentrated, dropping cluster bombs over the area. Smiling as the area filled with smoke and explosion, he turned his aircraft for another round elsewhere.

Back, away from the frontline, artillery began to fire on defensive structures on the western side of the city. SAM units began to fire their Stinger Missiles at all enemy aircraft in the skies, adding to the overall muscle of the airforce, which it seemed was quickly pushing eastward, and pounding Coventry defense structures.

In the meantime, the million of troops from Yellek Straights had generally arrived and unloaded into the small province. They were resting first, however once they were to be sent, it would be a powerful hammer to be used in the war of reclaim. They would be ready in a few hours. In the meantime, another set of 200 000 troops crossed the border into the Jefferson Colony. Their orders were to spread out, and take any lasting strongholds in the occupied territory, taking any enemy troops as war-prisoners, or dead if need be.

As the entire war-effort moved eastward at a still brisk pace, the Austar Union continued efforts to contact Peter Jackson, trying to convince him to stop. It seemed that so far, the Beleci Army was powerful, and the enemy was unable to halt the great wheel from turning.

OOC: Im not usually one to post losses, but a few thousand Beleci troops have been lost. Basically, its up to you what kinda losses you wanna post, but the way it seems to me, you would be taking heavy casualties, and your troops would be pushed further and further into Coventry.

OOC: From what I am saying is that their are heavy casualties on both sides but the line is holding 65 miles from Coventry that is the current state of the war. You advanced 45 miles into my territory but have been stopped by a defensive line of tanks and infantry 65 miles from Coventry.

Troops kept landing 24/7 at both Jefferson International and Coventry Regional. The entire 8th army corps had joined the 1st which had beaten back a Beleci offensive earlier that day. That would add another 150,000 troops to the 145,000 of the first already their, 40,000 Jefferson Militia in the area, 10,000 Camewottian troops, and 250,000 troops from the Federal Union. All throughout the night and into the next day B-52s had continue to strike enemy positions including the new regiments coming across the border. B-52s flying from bases inside Morathania flew over 100 sorties a day using about as many aircraft. By the end of the 4th day Morathanian and allied aircraft had claimed air cuperiority as few Beleci aircraft came to challenge allied aircraft. But the situation on the ground was worsening. Although bogged down on a line extending 65 miles west of Coventry the Beleci were reinforcing quickly and reports had said that the million troops were almost ready. Although Belecus had suffered heavy losses, 147,000 men so far, Morathania losses were also high almost 130,000 Morathanians had been killed. The units suffering the least amount of casualties were the Jefferson militia units. The highest were Morathanian infantry.

OOC: RP an attack but don't say anything like we pushed them back to Coventry or anything like that. Nothing outrageous since at the front line now we have about equal numbers. Counting the allies for mine. You can't use the 1,000,000 troops yet as since they have just arrived and in RL they would take a while to have them put under new commanders and sent orders.

To: Federation of Morathania
From: Lieutenant Admiral Arthur Kinsley, 6th Fleet

I have been informed by Royal Navy Command of your situation and dire need for assistance. Once we have finished off loading the supplies for Nova Excelsior Colony, I will dispatch five squadrons (50 ships) to provide you with Naval Support. In addition, 5 Missile Platform Airships and 10 Heavy Gun Airships are enroute to your colony. The Missile Platforms will be in weapons range in 2 hours, the Heavy Gun Airships will arrive on station in 6-8 hours.

OOC:
Just to let you know some of the stats of what I'm sending:
Missile Platform Airships= http://tncforums.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=WorldTech&action=display&num=1090051609
Heavy Gun Airships= http://tncforums.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=WorldTech&action=display&num=1090051609
FastFalcon Cruise Missile= http://tncforums.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=WorldTech&action=display&num=1090052872

B-52s flying from bases inside Morathania flew over 100 sorties a day using about as many aircraft. By the end of the 4th day Morathanian and allied aircraft had claimed air cuperiority as few Beleci aircraft came to challenge allied aircraft.


OOC: Erm, I gotta comment on this one.... GODMOD!

You cant say you have air superiority, and far out, how do your B-52's just get past my defenses! The B-52 shows up so big on radar, that I would easily scramble aircraft to intercept. Next time say that you sent aircraft, but dont carry out the actual attack yet. Seperate an attack into three stages:

a) Moving to target
b) The Actual Attack
c) Withdrawing the Units

If you were to do all three in one hit, you are ignoring all defenses that would be along the way.

In the meantime, you can never claim that you have air superiority, especially at a time when I have MOST fighters in the skies. Obviously you dont have control in the skies, and thats how the roleplay has been written so far. Also to say that my fighters rarely challenge you, is a total godmod. Have you read the stickies? You cant roleplay my actions. What I'll do, is just pretend for now that you SENT an attack of B-52's. Then i'll respond from there. Hope you understand.

OOC: RP an attack but don't say anything like we pushed them back to Coventry or anything like that. Nothing outrageous since at the front line now we have about equal numbers. Counting the allies for mine. You can't use the 1,000,000 troops yet as since they have just arrived and in RL they would take a while to have them put under new commanders and sent orders

I can understand where you are coming from, so I wont roleplay that I pushed you back to Coventry, but I'll just roleplay the general mood of the war. And I understand that it would take a while for the troops to be ready.

Behind, in the backlashes of the war, whetre there was lesser enemy troops, SAM Units spotted the B-52's flying overhead. Notifying command, they began to fire selectively at the massive aircraft. As the missiles streamed at enormous speed toward each aircraft, they began to turn. The men on the ground smiled as the missiles locked on, and began to home into the bombers with enormous speed. Not one bomber was left out, and each had at least two missiles after it. This was the joys of the Stinger Missile. It could distinguish between countermeasures and the actual aircraft, making it impossible to evade. There was only one thing the pilots could do now, which was to either outrun the missile, or to eject, and at the slow speed the B-52 could move, they certainly couldnt outrun.

(OOC: See, I posted this because this is based on fact. The Stinger Missile is the most effective missile for that reason, but still im leaving it up to you to make the damage post. Although it is most likely that your bombers were all shot to the ground, its your job to say so, if so.)

In the meantime, over the skies, more aircraft were scrambled into the skies, and streamed at enormous speed into enemy territory. As they moved deeper into enemy airspace, below they spotted an airfield, filled with fighters and bombers. Turning at a sharp speed, they moved into positions directly above the field, unloading several large bombs over the target below. As bombs fell in freefall guided by sattelite, the fighters changed direction instantly and went into a dive. As the aircraft dived, below several explosions below could be heard, mostly along the runway. If it wasnt usable anymore, it certainly was damaged. In a dive, the fighters released a stream of missiles, aimed at the hangers. The missiles streamed at full speed, and the fighters pulled up. Just as the G's were getting to their maximum, the pilots became satisfied by the explosions below.

(OCC: See, although I did post an attack, it was because the target was unexpected, and I was already in the area. I didnt post any of your losses, but I posted things on assumption.)

Turning the aircraft, they headed in a new direction, toward the main battle-area. It didnt take long before they got to the area, and as they broke formation, the fighters dove down and began to fire EMP Missiles at areas which the enemy troops were being commanded. If they were taken out, the enemy troops would without fail, fall apart, and eventually fall back.

As the missiles roared ahead, they closed into their targets, at a frightening pace, and with perfect accuracy. This was the advantage of sattelite and laser guided missiles. When the missile hits, it would release a massive electromagnetic pulse, frying all electronic equipment which was in the area.

Along the ground, there were now some 400 000 Troops in the main battle area. With this new addition, the war-effort pushed back on the enemy now twice as much. Of course, they had their own additions, and numbers were now more equal. Nevertheless, the spoils of war continued.

David Jones continued to move forward, POP, POP, POP! With each firing of the weapon, yet another enemy soldier was dead. POP, POP, POP! He felt invincible. All around him, enemy soldiers were falling as his fellow soldiers, and himself joined together in the deadly force. Far over in the distance, the same was happening. As he lept over a small wall, he ducked, rolled, and aimed, POP, POP, POP! He had been trained for something like this, but never in his life would he have imagined such energy to be filling his veins.

Looking to the left, a large gathering of enemy soldiers was taking form. Taking cover, began to shoot. One by one, they would fall, and scrambling for cover, his friends also began to shoot. Overhead all of a sudden, a low-flying aircraft flew toward the concentration of troops, releasing more cluster bombs upon the enemy soldiers. Instantly, the area where the enemy was standing became filled with explosion, flame, and smoke. All around the battlefield, the exact same was happening. Enemy soldiers being shot at, cluster bombing.... it was all very exciting, but he was surprised at how quickly lives could just end.

(OOC: I havent posted any losses here. Your losses are based on what you think is right. Your last set of losses was good. You did well there. I hope your starting to learn about all this, because I too had to learn once. I think its something we all do need to learn.)

Hallad pledges 1,000 Halladi Regulars and 200 Halladi Reservists. They will be sen't to Jefferson. With that a fleet consisting of:

2 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
-6 Yak-141 "Freestyle" (Each)
-4 AH-1W SuperCobra attack helicopter (Each)
-12 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters (Each)
-9 CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters (Each)
-4 UH-1N Huey helicopters (Each)
1 Spruance Class Destroyer
1 Akula-I Hunter Killer Submarines
1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
1 Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ship
4 "President" (Halladi Design) Class Overseas Troop Transport Ships

Another 500 Halladi Regulars will be sent to New Rose, with this fleet (which will reside in Jefferson).

These troops are expected to arrive in 6 NS days.

OOC: Sorry about that I have gotten into wars as an ally but I've never been outright attacked before sorry about that. Okay. I won't GODMOD anymore but really your doing a bit of that too. Saying you descimated my army when I still have over 300,000 troops defending Coventry. You are just as responsible as I am. We have equal numbers of troops in the area. For now but you say I'm the only one GODMODding. You say:

But overall, they kept pushing eastward, into the outskirts of Coventry. This could very well be a street battle soon.

When I say that your attack was stopped at a line 65 miles east of the city and had posted as such early. Nor did you post an attack which I could counter-attack. You also say:

Back, away from the frontline, artillery began to fire on defensive structures on the western side of the city. SAM units began to fire their Stinger Missiles at all enemy aircraft in the skies, adding to the overall muscle of the airforce, which it seemed was quickly pushing eastward, and pounding Coventry defense structures.

You have artillery that can hit a city from 65 miles away. If we're going to do this war we're going to do it one battled at a time. RPed by us and each of the allies. You can't claim that you have made it to Coventry without their being a major battle in which you overwhelm defending forces and advance toward Coventry. Also:

Their orders were to spread out, and take any lasting strongholds in the occupied territory, taking any enemy troops as war-prisoners, or dead if need be.

You haven't even entered my capital city, or any city for that matter, and your sending in a mop up crew. I could see that if we had RPed a battle I was a soundly defeated but come on. DON'T ACCUSE ME OF GODMODDING WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IT.

OOC: Stingers while good can easily be evaded by chaff and flare and it is, too my knowledge anyway correcting me if I'm wrong, that B-52s fly to higher for Stinger Missles to be effective. Ground-based SAMs on the other hand are highly effective against them.

F-15s and F-16s battled Beleci aircraft in the skies. With bombs pouring down, from F-16s, FA-18s and B-52s that had evaded the SAMs on both lines from both air forces it was a seen right out of hell. Lt. Gen. Abrams surveyed the battlefield.
"Looks like they are ready to attack. How many men do we think they have?"
"Intel reports about 400,000."
"For now were equal enemies, but as soon as that huge force comes in here were as good as dead. If we sit here were just going to be picked off one by one. We need to do something. We need to force them back we give them any ground and we've failed."
"I have an idea," said young general's staff officer Col. Charles Brinkley, "the Beleci troops are expecting us to be on the defensive."
"Yes, so."
"So, if we attack. We'll have suprise on our side and we might be able to gain ground and get enough of them that we may be able to hold up against the million man army."
"God, thats the best idea I've heard all night. We keep sorties at the same level and suprise them. God damn thats the best we can hope for. Good job Brinkley."
"Thank you sir."

At 01:30 under the cover of dark the tanks and infantry began a flanking move. 65,000 men and 125 MBTs moved around the right flank. After coming into contact with a small force guarding the right flank they proceeded to attack. At 02:20 The major attack across the Beleci front began. At 02:35 as the attack against the Beleci slowed down after pushing them back a mile and a half the flanking group attacked meeting elements of the 3rd Infantry and 14th tank divsions.

OOC: How was that?
Anyway I have to go this will have to be continued tomarrow.

-----Secret Incoded Message-----

To - VA Allies

The Armed Republic is sending the following to help its VA ally. They shall be arriving as fast as I can transport them. I'll need some help to get them all there quickly. We have a large fleet of Improved Liberty Ships but we need some protection. With every reasource shiping them it will take at least (ns) 2 weeks.

1,000 - Black Eagles
1,500 - T-94s
2,000 - T-90s
3,000 - T-84s
5,000 - T-80s
6,000 - T-72s
10,000 - T-64s
1,000 - T-63s
50,000 - T-59s
100,000 - T-10s
25,000 - T-54s

100 million CPES-9 pills

Dr. Herald M. Bashari
Scoylian Assitant Defense Minister

-----End Secret Incoded Message-----

(OCC - You may be wondering how I can have so many well I have 10 puppets - [Conquered Territories])

OOC: How long in RL is two ns weeks. Will you RP them?

OOC: Sorry about that I have gotten into wars as an ally but I've never been outright attacked before sorry about that. Okay. I won't GODMOD anymore but really your doing a bit of that too. Saying you descimated my army when I still have over 300,000 troops defending Coventry. You are just as responsible as I am. We have equal numbers of troops in the area. For now but you say I'm the only one GODMODding. You say:

But overall, they kept pushing eastward, into the outskirts of Coventry. This could very well be a street battle soon.

When I say that your attack was stopped at a line 65 miles east of the city and had posted as such early. Nor did you post an attack which I could counter-attack. You also say:

Back, away from the frontline, artillery began to fire on defensive structures on the western side of the city. SAM units began to fire their Stinger Missiles at all enemy aircraft in the skies, adding to the overall muscle of the airforce, which it seemed was quickly pushing eastward, and pounding Coventry defense structures.

You have artillery that can hit a city from 65 miles away. If we're going to do this war we're going to do it one battled at a time. RPed by us and each of the allies. You can't claim that you have made it to Coventry without their being a major battle in which you overwhelm defending forces and advance toward Coventry. Also:

Their orders were to spread out, and take any lasting strongholds in the occupied territory, taking any enemy troops as war-prisoners, or dead if need be.

You haven't even entered my capital city, or any city for that matter, and your sending in a mop up crew. I could see that if we had RPed a battle I was a soundly defeated but come on. DON'T ACCUSE ME OF GODMODDING WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IT.

OOC: No offense dude, but I didnt know I was like 65km away from Covenus. Your picking up on stuff from my older post. Now if you want, just ignore all the sections which go against this, and keep roleplaying as normal. Thats exactly what im doing with you. As for the orders to spread out, thats in the countryside, not Coventry. Im sending the mop up crew to deal with any resistance in the countryside. Im sorry for misinterpreting your posts, but it seems as if you are only picking up on stuff about where the battlefield is, so just keep roleplaying from the fact that we're some distance away yikes.

As for saying that im pushing eastward, I can say that, because thats exactly how the war is going. It would be wrong for me to say that if the war was going the opposite way, but even you must acknowledge that war has momentum. Keep going ;)

OCC - Not even an (rl) day, But I can't send them until I get some fleet protection. There will be no cents in sending them without protection. How should I RP them?

OOC: Yes you had momentum. And thats 65 miles not Kilometers. In Kilometers that would be about 100 km. You did push 45 miles or about 60 km into my territory but you where stopped. So lets drop all this and pick up with a good RP. I really have to leave now. I wont be around for another 10-11 hours.

The Halladi Fleet en route to your destination could provide as your shipments escort. This would, however, prolong the time of re-enforcement.

OOC: Just act out your troops movement and orders like everyone else does. For protection their are 2 Kirov Class Cruisers, 4 Arleigh Bruke Destroyers, and 6 Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates in your area that will be fleet escorts.

Morathania: That RP was good. Ill post my next movement, then ill wait for your response.

Scoyle: Are you aware that sending that many tanks would be impossible to send within 2 Weeks? It would take virtually a few years to send that many. I mean, thats ALOT of tanks, especially via sea. I suggest you roleplay that over a few RL days.

Your right. But I go by 1 rl day is a year. I meant to put

BTW - My fleet has 65,000 Improved Liberty Ships. There just WWll supply ships with the fixed breaking in half proble. The Allies built over 500,000 Liberty Ships over time, but only about 367,000 actually made there trips. Even less then that made more then 10 trips. Plus it only takes about three or four trips.

OOC: My F117's await you


IC:

In Morathania

Sir, sir!

What?

Theres a fleet coming...

Oh, ok, no problem

250 F117's raise, to find this fleet...
Once they find it, they quickly bomb the fleet in a first volley, quickly returning for a second and a thirth

OOC: Respond with defense.


OOC

I don't need a defence - the F117 has no antisubmarine capability!
Finding submerged submarines requires specialised assets and just bombing open ocean is a fine exercise in futility.

IC

PNS T7, beneath the Monrothian approaches:

"Sonar to Captain - we have detected large numbers of surface explosions accompanied by the faint sound of military turbofans."

"No surface contacts to justify this activity?"

"No sir - as far as we can tell a large number of aircraft are bombing an empty sea."

"Mmm - perhaps it's an exercise or live fire practice. Carry on."

Fleet Echo 7 spreads out through the available sea room, waiting for significant contacts, utterly unaffected by the events above.

1,000 nautical miles off shore of Jefferson Colony

"This is Baker Golf 2 to Baker Golf 3-6. Range to target is 1,000 NM. Commence firing Volleys 1-5; Ballistic tragectory, blast fragmentation warheads.

You may fire when ready."

With that command 500 FastFalcon Hypersonic Cruise Missiles were launched at the Beleci front lines. The missiles are targeted using the latest data from orbiting satellites and from what information could be gathered from Morathanian sources.

With a lethal range of 30 meters, the missiles are fired in a Starburst pattern to cover the largest area possible.

Improved Libery Ships

http://www.cascobay.com/history/libship/lib02.htm

Defense
3 SAM Lauchers - Where the Biggest Machine Gun Areas are.
3 Fast Firing Cannons Guns
Scoylian Defense Satalites Link

Capability
9,146 tons

On the ground, soldiers from all over the area looked up, seeing the missiles streaming toward them. "TAKE COVER!!!", yelled many of the commanders.

Instantly, the soldiers stopped firing, and scrambled to areas where they might be safer from attack. In groups of twelve, the soldiers ran and took shelter, diving behind a group of rocks, or whatever else could be found.

The Anti-Ballistic systems came online, and began to fire at the incoming missiles. Most were shot down, but nevertheless a vast minority made it through. Taking cover, David Jones and his fellow soldiers hid underneath a rocky outcrop. Explosions could be heard over the land. Before it was the enemy taking the losses, but now it was him.

Later, when reports were to come in, it would say that some 5 000 Soldiers would have been killed in the attacks.

In the meantime, a response was being drawn, fighters scrambling with full tanks. It may be far, but the tanks would be able to last the way and back. As fighters roared toward the airships, they armed the Missiles. It would be at least an hour of flight.

OOC: The men on the ground smiled as the missiles locked on, and began to home into the bombers with enormous speed. Not one bomber was left out, and each had at least two missiles after it. This was the joys of the Stinger Missile. It could distinguish between countermeasures and the actual aircraft, making it impossible to evade. There was only one thing the pilots could do now, which was to either outrun the missile, or to eject, and at the slow speed the B-52 could move, they certainly couldnt outrun.

[SIZE=1](OOC: See, I posted this because this is based on fact. The Stinger Missile is the most effective missile for that reason, but still im leaving it up to you to make the damage post. Although it is most likely that your bombers were all shot to the ground, its your job to say so, if so.)

OOC

Unfortunately the facts you based that on were rather skimpy ones.

The Stinger is an infrared homing man-portable SAM with a small warhead.

It can't be fired without having locked onto the target, so the paragraph about locking on after firing is all wrong.

Then the available countermeasures include flares and other IR jamming technologies.

However a B52 raid is unlikely to worry about Stingers because they fly too high! A Stinger can only engage targets up to 11,500 ft which is why medium height raids happen at 15,000 feet...

Finally, even if a Stinger does hit a B52 it is unlikely indeed to shoot it down. After all the B52 has eight engines in four pods, and IR missiles hit hot engines by choice.

In Belecus....

Peter Jackson frowned when he heard of the Hamptonians entering the war. He had never expected the challenge of the airship. Nevertheless, he still had a few things up his sleeve. Including the Troops given from Yellek Straights.

The Yellek Troops had been gathering on the border for some time, and were growing impatient. With orders that would ring through history for eternity, they began to cross the border in their divisions, in their squads. 500 000 Troops were now crossing the border into the Jefferson Colony. Expecting no resistance, they began to push toward the frontlines, where apparently things were getting slightly out of control.

Your right. But I go by 1 rl day is a year. I meant to put

BTW - My fleet has 65,000 Improved Liberty Ships. There just WWll supply ships with the fixed breaking in half proble. The Allies built over 500,000 Liberty Ships over time, but only about 367,000 actually made there trips. Even less then that made more then 10 trips. Plus it only takes about three or four trips.

OOC
You do know how much sea room 65,000 large ships take?

Not to mention that Liberty Ships are just cargo vessels, so you have to find a port to offload the cargo.

An average sort of port will have the capacity to offload perhaps 100 ships at most, so your 65000 will spend years waiting in line.

Quite honestly this level of godmodding is ridiculous.

I didn't bring nearly enough nukes to the party...

Whoops I meent 6,500 I am a little tired. Ive been up for 3 days straight

OCC - 204,500 tanks with 6,500 with space for 8 tanks equals 4 trips. Ill probly send 200 ships at a time. I just need a very very very very very large port.

I also have 10 An-225s that can take 2 tanks. I am trying to get more help to releave the ships since there are not enough port spaces

On the frontline...

As soldiers crawled from their hiding holes, they began to fire at the enemy again. Like before, the enemy was falling, but this time they were at least holding their ground. Overhead, planes roared past, over the masses of enemy troops and unloaded their cluster bombs again and again.

Then over areas where the enemy was very most concentrated. For hours it seemed (OOC NOTE: Note the "it seemed", the enemy was being pounded, and if that wasnt enough, that was followed suit with a volly of artillery, which would pound anything left after the massive destruction.

Now that the enemy would be confused, the soldiers, although in a slight daze themselves, charged at the enemy lines, firing at anything that moved. Once they saw the enemy line, they all stopped, pulled out their guns and opened fire. Watching the enemy fall was satisfying, but the soldiers, now thirsty for blood didnt seem to notice their own successes.

-----Incoded Message-----

To - All VA Allies

From - Monticello (Scoylian Capital)

We are sending a massive amount of tanks and are in need of help. I currenty have enough treansport ships but not enough transport aircraft. We are in need of such Items. The more help we get the better the chances of our allies being saved.

President Scott L.C.
President of the Armed Republic of Scoyle

-----Incoded Message-----

1,000 nautical miles off shore

"This is Baker Golf 4 to Baker Golf Group, massive enemy formation has been sighted crossing the boarder. Fire Volleys 11, 12, and 13 at their location. Vollets 14 and 15 are to be targeted at the Beleci force's currently attacking the city. Kinetic missiles, ballistic trajectory."

300 FastFalcon missiles headed toward the Yellek forces while 200 head for the advancing Beleci troops.

-----Incoded Message-----

To - All VA Allies

From - Monticello (Scoylian Capital)

We are sending a massive amount of tanks and are in need of help. I currenty have enough treansport ships but not enough transport aircraft. We are in need of such Items. The more help we get the better the chances of our allies being saved.

President Scott L.C.
President of the Armed Republic of Scoyle

-----Incoded Message-----

You may pass through our colony and land if need be. But that is all. And remember to avoid Hamptonshire civilians...
-New Rose

OOC: Can someone fill me in with a quick summary of all I've missed basically where Combat zones are who's fighting where and what the numbers are.

The men and women of the 1st and 12th Marines finally rolled into the Suburbs of Coventry. Hours of marching had finnally delivered them to the Suburbs, just 8 hours after Off loading from the Camewot Ships.

10,000 men arrived with the simple purpose to back up the local forces. The Tanks of the 12th were the first to be dug in into makeshift bunker. It would take them two hous to complete...

OOC: What the hell does Incoded mean?

OOC: Can someone update me?

In support of our ally, Raginsheep has decided to move elements of the 234th Marine Infantry Division into Morathania to defend it against aggressive action by Belecus. Also, additional elements from the 234th are being moved to the Ragin Belecus border where defensive positions will be taken.

Meanwhile ships from the 1286th Marine Amphibious Landing Group have begun taking up positions along the Morathania coast where they began firing 150 cruise missiles
against Belecus targets.

In addition, the 21st Light Infantry and the 1st Infantry Divison will be deployed in the area. The 21st will be flown in 1week while the 1st Infantry will be shipped in 3weeks. Air support in this operation will be povided by the 632th Marine Avation Group and also elements of the 3425th Intelligence Airborne Group has been flown in.

1,000 nautical miles off shore

"This is Baker Golf 4 to Baker Golf Group, massive enemy formation has been sighted crossing the boarder. Fire Volleys 11, 12, and 13 at their location. Vollets 14 and 15 are to be targeted at the Beleci force's currently attacking the city. Kinetic missiles, ballistic trajectory."

300 FastFalcon missiles headed toward the Yellek forces while 200 head for the advancing Beleci troops.

The Yellek Front...

The Yellek Convoys raced across the countryside, literally unopposed as they snake through the occupied zones. Although the highways may be scarce through the new countryside, they were direct, so travel through the area was fast. Already, troops had begun to arrive along the actual war frontline, and prepare for entry into battle.

With one particular convoy, the drivers were chatting idley between themselves over the unofficial radio channels;

"So Bob, what are you gonna do after the wars finished?" crackled over the radio.

"I dunno Bill. Probably just sip some beer, and make love to my wife...", replied another voice.

The radio filled with idle laughter, when their conversation was interrupted by an announcement from HQ;

"All Units, please be advised of missile attack, Kinetic Type. We suggest all convoys come to a halt while the attack is underway. Please do not attempt to seek cover. HQ Out."

Outside, the skies were lightly littered with small falling dots. As the dots fell over the countryside, dirt was thrown up. Bill, one of the drivers contacted over the radio waves, "Hey John, whats happening?"

A voice crackled a reply back almost immediatly, "Nothing to worry about it. From what I hear, there are only 300 of em, using kinetics. Theres not much damage they can do to small targets with that kinda missile. Its basically just falling large metal objects. They wont harm you unless they drop nearby. Basically with that amount, they will fall all over the countryside, so the chances of it hitting a specific target is minimal."

As the dots rained down over the areas around them, a few came within reasonable distance, but nothing to really worry about. One truck was hit, killling 25 soldiers instantly, and another few were hit by sand etc, but overall, it was a waste of an operation by the Hamptonians. When the rain of objects was finished, the convoys started up again.

The Beleci Front - The Frontline

It was a strange tactic that the Hamptonians were using. Basically, what was happening was exactly the same as the Yellek Front. However, it was even of a lesser scale. Should the Beleci Troops have been amassed in close concentration, the Hamptonian Kinetic Missile rain would have been worth it, but again, most were hitting areas where there were no troops, hitting a group of trees etc. All around, there were craters left from the missile, but because it was basically an unguided free-falling object, it wasnt very effective against the formation of the troops.

Nevertheless, some damage was done, killing some 365 soldiers, but nothing to really worry about.

In the meantime, the onslaught continued. With the Yellek Troops soon to join the main battlefront, the soldier rose once again in spirits, fighting at their greatest. Bombers and fighters faced overhead, combating all of the enemy. They were confident of a victory, especially with the new help just coming soon.

OCC: What about my 150 cruise missiles?

The 500 F117's keep bombing the frontlines, while all QRF troops arrive they now begin to march to the frontline:

20,000 troops including 5,000 of the elite experdionary force
5000 Camewottian Special Ops
1000 Camewottian Peacekeepers

All throughout the day Brigadier General Homes and his militiamen had been working in back of the lines after sweeping around the enemies flank they were looking for the Yellek troops. Knowing that they would need to inflict heavy casualties. As the militiamen fought through the coastal jungle they finally say something. This was at 21:47. The militiamen, using guerilla tactics, shadowed the rear of the enemy once it was completely dark and it looked like the Yellek men were starting to set up camp the Militiamen attacked. 45,000 men attacked from all angles at the force of one million.
"Vicotry or death," screamed many men.
"Live free or die," screemed others.
The million men were overwhelmed they had expected no resistance west of the line and as such were unprepared against the onslought of these highly effective resistance fighters.

OOC: Made the militia much like it was in the American Revolution and more recently like the Afghanistani Muhjahadeen fighters that destroyed the Russian army in Afghanistan.

At the front lines the flanks were being destroyed. The army had only moved 7 miles but the Morathanian troops were in high morale. They had regained 7 miles of Morathanian soil. Even though losses were high, 120,000 so far, new alliance troops and fresh Morathanian ones fresh from ships and airplanes reinforced battlehardened veterens.

10 B-52 Bombers are currently departing for Morathania, further more, the 5th Sea Marine Division has been mobilized consisting off;

7500 Marines.

The QRF troops are marching towards the frontline, ready for the battle.

Morathanian B-52s had continually pounded the frontlines and the million man army in the rear. Although some where shot down by SAM batteries the Stinger Missles were not effective against it. These B-52s now flying from bases in Morathania, Jefferson and allied countries were flying 125 sorties a day a huge number. The were cycled so bombing was almost constant. Each flew with an escort of 3 F-15 Eagles. At least 35,000 Beleci were dead from the bombings on the front line and another 50,000 Yellek troops in the rear and 750 Morathanians dead in a few friendly fire incidents.

OOC: B-52s hold 13,000 pounds of bombs.

the 8th corps had reached the lines. Their orders were to shuffle around the left flank and draw the Beleci into a cross fire situation. At 23:56 they started they went 15 miles south of the line and wrapped around. By dawn they were entrenched in the Beleci rear. As soon as Morathanian troops had pushed back the Beleci into range the 8th corps, 165,000 fighting men, unleashed a storm of bullets the Beleci were cought in the cross fire. Morathanian casualties were light, 25,000 men, but the Beleci force was seriously hampered. With 375,000 men cross between the cross fire. Over 200,000 died. With men now on three sides of them the Beleci had few options on hand.

OOC: Sorry if your numbers are high but usually casualty rates are very high in a cross fire situation. Plus you now have one million or so men coming down to meet me so the situation should turn in your favour soon.

All throughout the day Brigadier General Homes and his militiamen had been working in back of the lines after sweeping around the enemies flank they were looking for the Yellek troops. Knowing that they would need to inflict heavy casualties. As the militiamen fought through the coastal jungle they finally say something. This was at 21:47. The militiamen, using guerilla tactics, shadowed the rear of the enemy once it was completely dark and it looked like the Yellek men were starting to set up camp the Militiamen attacked. 45,000 men attacked from all angles at the force of one million.
"Vicotry or death," screamed many men.
"Live free or die," screemed others.
The million men were overwhelmed they had expected no resistance west of the line and as such were unprepared against the onslought of these highly effective resistance fighters.

OOC: Made the militia much like it was in the American Revolution and more recently like the Afghanistani Muhjahadeen fighters that destroyed the Russian army in Afghanistan.

At the front lines the flanks were being destroyed. The army had only moved 7 miles but the Morathanian troops were in high morale. They had regained 7 miles of Morathanian soil. Even though losses were high, 120,000 so far, new alliance troops and fresh Morathanian ones fresh from ships and airplanes reinforced battlehardened veterens.

OOC: No offense dude, but have you forgotten all that I said earlier. You cant post something saying that you have completly overwhelmed me, saying that you had regained 7 miles. I dont mind particularly about the 7 miles, but you have gone against the entire grain of the roleplay. One minute your troop system is about to collapse, all of a sudden you have taken back land? WITH NO IN BETWEEN ROLEPLAY!!!

Also you claim to have completly surrounded the Yellek Troops, when you fail to read my posts clearly. They clearly state that they are in convoys being transported to the area. Not only that, magically they have been ignored by 50 000 other troops just posted in that area. As for us setting up camp, im not aware that the troops were setting up camp....

Dude, I dont want this roleplay to go to hell, but it seems like your pushing it that way. Remember, the idea is not to just win, but maybe win, and write the good story in between. The main focus is the story.

Really, that whole post is completly ignorable. Im willing to keep roleplaying of course, just fix up your post and ill put up my response. Or else just pretend you didnt post that.

<Open Transmission>
TO: Morathania, Jefferson Colony
FROM: Belecus, Austarian Colonial Independant
SUBJECT: The Land In Question

It appears friend that your troops are not sustaining our war of reclaim. As you are fully aware, our forces are quickly gaining ground in the lands you fight for, and we are aware of your requests for a treaty of peace. Therefore, we offer you the treaty you requested. Here is our offer:

The Morath/Beleci Peace Treaty

Under the terms of this treaty, both sides of the conflict is oblidged to keep true to these terms. The terms of this treaty shall be:

a) The Colonial Independant of Belecus to pay a sum, TWICE the worth of the land known as the Jefferson Colony, to the nation of Morathania.

b) The land known as the Jefferson Colony, currently under control of Morathania to be given to the nation of Belecus to be added to its territorial claim.

c) All Morathanian citizens living in the Jefferson or citizens of Jefferson Colony to be given the right to choose between deportation back to Morathania, or to be given full citizenship status of Belecus.

d) Full war repairations to be paid to all members of the war by Belecus

e) An official apology to be given from the people of Belecus to Morathania and her allies for the war in general.

f) A non-aggression pact to be made between Belecus and Morathania.

All signatories (Belecus and Morathania) are to acknowledge that it will become effective from the date of signing. Any breaking of such treaty will void it, and so it will become invalid if such occurance happens.

Friend, you know you cannot sustain this for much longer. You can only gain from this treaty, and so can we. Let us settle this peacefully.

OCC - How much would be a reasonable amount of tanks to be delivered each rl day?

OOC: Wow, I just read your latest posts. That is direct godmodding, posting my losses.

OOC: May I point out that you did the same thing Morathania did?

OOC: May I point out that you did the same thing Morathania did?

OOC: Erm, no I didnt. I didnt post his losses. I didnt change the complete direction of the war in one post, I make an attack, then make it impossible for him to counter attack, I didnt say that he was taking heavy losses. I said that many of his troops were falling like once, but that was up to interpretation. If you note, when I said that I was in squad level roleplay. So whilst that may have been happening in that area, it didnt nessasarily indicate the overall war. All posts should leave the losses up to the other player. You can hint ideas, but you cant roleplay the other persons losses.

OOC: Sorry, thought you wanted me to post your loses. Please tell me if you don't want me to post your losses anymore ok. Because back about a page, when we were both having the same high losses, you were fine with it. But now that I want to make a single strong victory you say I can't. Well, you post your losses from now on and make them reasonable please. God for the whole time I could say that I had only lost something like 200 guys but instead I made Morathanian troops lose as many or more than Beleci troops. And may I also suggest that maybe you add a general to roleplay so we can get a better overview of the Beleci side of the front.

OOC: Here is a map of Jefferson. Its not perfect but It'll do for now.

OOC: Sorry, thought you wanted me to post your loses. Please tell me if you don't want me to post your losses anymore ok. Because back about a page, when we were both having the same high losses, you were fine with it. But now that I want to make a single strong victory you say I can't. Well, you post your losses from now on and make them reasonable please. God for the whole time I could say that I had only lost something like 200 guys but instead I made Morathanian troops lose as many or more than Beleci troops. And may I also suggest that maybe you add a general to roleplay so we can get a better overview of the Beleci side of the front.

OOC: Nono, my apoligies. I thought you understood how war RP is done. Can I suggest that you read: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274470
BTW: You have a peace treaty offer to consider. I thought you might appreciate it, considering you've been asking me for it :S

Yes and what is in this peace offer?

OOC: Thank you that was very informative. I don't know why I lapsed into godmodding this time. Maybe because it was my own land and I was the major country in the war. As Camewot can tell you because I've fought with him as an ally before I don't godmod. So I'm sorry for the inconvenience this caused you.

<Open Transmission>
TO: Morathania, Jefferson Colony
FROM: Belecus, Austarian Colonial Independant
SUBJECT: The Land In Question

It appears friend that your troops are not sustaining our war of reclaim. As you are fully aware, our forces are quickly gaining ground in the lands you fight for, and we are aware of your requests for a treaty of peace. Therefore, we offer you the treaty you requested. Here is our offer:

The Morath/Beleci Peace Treaty

Under the terms of this treaty, both sides of the conflict is oblidged to keep true to these terms. The terms of this treaty shall be:

a) The Colonial Independant of Belecus to pay a sum, TWICE the worth of the land known as the Jefferson Colony, to the nation of Morathania.

b) The land known as the Jefferson Colony, currently under control of Morathania to be given to the nation of Belecus to be added to its territorial claim.

c) All Morathanian citizens living in the Jefferson or citizens of Jefferson Colony to be given the right to choose between deportation back to Morathania, or to be given full citizenship status of Belecus.

d) Full war repairations to be paid to all members of the war by Belecus

e) An official apology to be given from the people of Belecus to Morathania and her allies for the war in general.

f) A non-aggression pact to be made between Belecus and Morathania.

All signatories (Belecus and Morathania) are to acknowledge that it will become effective from the date of signing. Any breaking of such treaty will void it, and so it will become invalid if such occurance happens.

Friend, you know you cannot sustain this for much longer. You can only gain from this treaty, and so can we. Let us settle this peacefully.

OOC: Thats about the same that was posted before. BTW: Dont worry about it bud, I think we've all done it. We all have our time. I even godmod sometimes myself accidently. We dont mean to, but nevertheless, what matters is that we're willing to listen. And you are, which shows your good.

OOC: I have decided to enter the war. I have had a fleet near the fcoast with a division on board to help get the Praetonian colony started (which is a complete mess right now see the other thread. There's a bit about it on pages 2 and 4).

IC: PWS Hoplite, Flagship 3rd Fleet

Admiral: Leiutenant Mathews get me the fleet tannoy please.

Leiutenant Mathews: Yes sir.

He hands the admiral the fleet tannoy radio link, allowing the Admiral to project his voice to the entire fleet.

Admiral: Men of the 3rd Fleet. We are about to go to war with Belecus to support our Victoria Alliance Morathania against an Imperialist invasion. When we have received permission from the Morathanian colony we will unload the 20th Imperial Guard Division and support the wider defence with Pole-axe and Battleaxe cruise missile strikes and carrier borne sorties. You are all prepared for war; now is the time to use your skills and training for the betterment of the world. That is all.


To: Morathanian Colonial Authorities
From: Admiral Vitellius, CiC 3rd Imperial Fleet

The Praetonian Government has announced it's intentions to enter the war
on your side. We are currently sailing at flanking speed to your territorial
waters. We request access to a safe port to unload our division and support
your defence.

OOC: You RPed pushing towards the city and you RPed his men being dazed and confused and about to be routed. Anyway I have decided to enter the war. I have had a fleet near the fcoast with a division on board to help get the Praetonian colony started (which is a complete mess right now see the other thread. There's a bit about it on pages 2 and 4).

IC: PWS Hoplite, Flagship 3rd Fleet

Admiral: Leiutenant Mathews get me the fleet tannoy please.

Leiutenant Mathews: Yes sir.

He hands the admiral the fleet tannoy radio link, allowing the Admiral to project his voice to the entire fleet.

Admiral: Men of the 3rd Fleet. We are about to go to war with Belecus to support our Victoria Alliance Morathania against an Imperialist invasion. When we have received permission from the Morathanian colony we will unload the 20th Imperial Guard Division and support the wider defence with Pole-axe and Battleaxe cruise missile strikes and carrier borne sorties. You are all prepared for war; now is the time to use your skills and training for the betterment of the world. That is all.


To: Morathanian Colonial Authorities
From: Admiral Vitellius, CiC 3rd Imperial Fleet

The Praetonian Government has announced it's intentions to enter the war on your side. We are currently sailing at flanking speed to your territorial waters. We request access to a safe port to unload our division and support your defence.


OOC
I have to admire your boldness in pushing a fleet through waters infested by submarines of unknown allegiance.

Could you detail your fleet please as you haven't done so far in this thread?

OOC: My fleets are quite capable of defending themselves from submarines. Plus, almost all of the colonies belong to my allies. Anyway click on the Praetonia Online link in my signature and go to the ministry of defence page. It is a standard Imperial Fleet and the Imperial Guard Division is also a standard division as listed there. The troop movements bit isnt up to date.

The Beleci Government wishes to remind the Praetonians that the current situation is under a cease fire while the dpilomatic arrangements be made. We have offered a treaty to the Morathanians, of which they have yet to give any indication as to whether they choose to accept it or not.

We are well aware of that and our forces stand ready to intervene if those negotiations break down.

OOC: Belecus, do you have any major coastal cities / ports?

<Open Transmission>
TO: Morathania, Jefferson Colony
Belecus, Austarian Colonial Independant
All other combatants

FROM: The Hall Of The Grand Shark
The Empire of The Wrath Of Poseidon

Due to the absurd force levels being projected in this conflict, The Wrath Of Poseidon hereby declares a maritime excusion zone of 850 nautical miles from the shores of Jefferson Colony.

All surface ships within this zone are subject to attack without further notice.

An unlimited submarine exclusion zone is also declared. All submarines detected will be destroyed wherever they may be. All combatants with submarine forces are urged to withdraw them immediately.

OOC

All naval forces from either side please declare your positions immediately. As this is an RP of accurate submarine warfare my forces can hear your surface assets anywhere, but your forces can only detect mine if you get lucky.

Please remember that loaded with my forces currently deployed are 32 Trident D5 SLBMs with local targeting control.

These are best deployed against land targets, but if someone is daft enough to try and swamp me with numbers one missile with 4 MIRVEd warheads is sufficient to destroy a large fleet in its entirety just by making tsunami.

I will only accept claims of engagement from credible antisubmarine forces.

Just bombing the sea at random is not credible!

OCC - Is anyone going to answer my question?

How Many Tanks Should I Send Every RL Day?

*fed union forces begin to arrive at said areas to set up fortfcations* (all i can post lol)

OCC - Is anyone going to answer my question?

How Many Tanks Should I Send Every RL Day?

OOC: Basically, at the rate of this roleplay, it would be fair to accept that it has been something of two weeks so far. But nevertheless, I would say being fair, you could probably move a few hundred, say 500 in a day, being generous.

"Sir!" Exclaimed Lieutenant Hasan. "We've just got an open transmission- some nations going to attack anyone who enters the water 'round Jefferson City. 850 nautical miles. We're just out of that zone."

"Fuck. Fuck them. I have orders and they're to get there without delay."

"Sir, with all do respect I think the High Command will understand that we can't enter Submarine Infested waters."

"Yeah, your right- as ussual- get a message to High Command I want another fleet and a Submarine fleet."

About an hour and a half passed before they recieved a message authorizing the fleets. They were to arrive in 5 days with supplies for the people of Jefferson and the crew of the ships.

OOC: The fleet is this:

3 x Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
-150 Su-37 "Terminator"
-105 S-3B Vikings
6 x Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser
3 x Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyer
3 x Spruance Class Destroyer
3 x Bainbridge Class Frigate
6 x Los Angeles Class Submarine
3 x Sacramento Class Fast Combat Support Ship
1 x Mercy Class Hospital Ship

The Submarine Fleet is:
2 x Seawolf Class Submarine
4 x Akula-I Hunter Killer Submarines
3 x Los Angeles Class Submarine

Sarzonia cannot currently provide the kind of military support it would like to for its longtime ally Morathania, but we will provide supplies from our renowned arms manufacturing industries to Morathania.

We warn Belecus not to interfere with the shipments, as such interference will be construed as a blatant act of hostility.

.::Scoylian Fleet::.

Captain - So far we haven't had any delays. We have got to take this load to make 1,000 of our tanks over there.

Sailor - Cool, how many more do we have to transport over there.

Captain - Over 200,000

The Sailors jaw drops

Sailor - Holy Sh...

Captain - Well be prepared to not sleep much for a long while.

OCC - Well be taking 500 per day like AU said. We'll go from the top of the list down starting with the Russian made Black Eagle.

Close to the sea bed, a Vanguard class (PNS V3) and two Swiftsure class are hovering in ultraquiet mode.

Quite a bit higher, an unwitting submarine barrels by.

PNS S43:

"Sonar to Captain. Contact S1 confirmed as Akula. Bearing 180 Depth 100 speed 25 Range 1500 widening"

"Captain to Nav. Make 27 knots bearing 180 depth 125"

Quietly the Swiftsure lifted up behind the Akula.

"Load tubes 1 and 2 Spearfish, 3 and 4 Distant Sword, 5 and 6 Distant Sword"

"One and two loaded. Three loaded. Four loaded. Five loaded. Six loaded."

"Firing solution Number One?"

"Yes Captain. Bearing 180, range 1950, speed -2 relative."

"OK, let's do it. Open bow doors."

"Bow doors open."

"Fire 3. Fire 4."

"Three fired. Four fired."

From the bow of the submarine, two slim tubes are ejected. At first it seems that they have failed, as they follow a parabolic unassisted course.

Then, once they are a safe distance from the launching sub their motors ignite.

The Distant Sword is an underwater missile rather than a torpedo per se. Not the quietest system, at 300 knots it doesn't need to be.

Twelve seconds later the two missiles reach the hapless Akula.

.::Scoylian Fleet::.

Captain - So far we haven't had any delays. We have got to take this load to make 1,000 of our tanks over there.

Sailor - Cool, how many more do we have to transport over there.

Captain - Over 200,000

The Sailors jaw drops

Sailor - Holy Sh...

Captain - Well be prepared to not sleep much for a long while.

OCC - Well be taking 500 per day like AU said. We'll go from the top of the list down starting with the Russian made Black Eagle.

OOC

Aren't you forgetting the little matter of a naval blockade?

The Grand Shark is bored again.

At a whim he pulls up the current situation report on the Morothian situation.

Eyes widening slightly, he realises just how many forces are pouring into the area. Clearly his advisors have been a little lax...

"Alert Delta Fleet and Tango Fleet for immediate deployment to Monrothia"

A mere six hours later, the two new fleets are at sea.

Meanwhile the ex CIC Naval Forces is slowly roasting over a nice log fire...

Delta fleet: composition as per Echo Fleet.

Tango fleet: 12 Ohio class SSBN, each with 12 Trident D5, 8 Hovering Hawk and 4 tubes loaded with Righteous Wrath (12 missiles).

28 Swiftsure Class.

Where?

Didn't see it. Sorry

The Federation of Morathania agrees with the peace treaty. All Morathanian colonists and armed forces will be evacuated into Morathania proper and nearby allied territories. All Morathania citizens of Jefferson about 80% of Jefferson's population of 376,673 will be deported and evacuated free of charge back to Morathania or nearby territories of allies. The remaining 20%, 75,334, will be free to choose either to remain and become citizens of Belecus or be deported back to Morathania free of charge.

-----Incoded Message-----

To - Morathania

From - Scoyle

Where shall we pick up the 500 Black Eagle Tanks at?

-----End Incoded Message-----

You may pick up all tanks at the port in Jefferson City.

You accepted that? Iwouldn't, but then that's just me...

OOC: Ya for now. I didn't feel like a war just now. Hit me at a bad time in RL.

"Captain, we're under attack!" Yelled one officer.

"Shit! Counter measures!" Another screamed. Crewmen raced against the clock to do as ordered. The captain hadn't even given the order.

A set of four counter measures were sent out, but it was to late.

"Destryer [i]Allah's Command[i] this is Akula class- nevermind- we're under attack!"

The ship was hit and exploded (or do they implode?).

* * *

On the surface

"Captain Abdel, we've just recieved an transmission on the emergancy frequency. One of our Akula's was just destroyed."

"By Allah! We have not intruded on the blockade!" He sighed. "Hasan send another message to the High Command informing them of- what nation was it?"

"More than likely they're The Wrath Of Poseidon's Subs."

"Right. Inform the High command of their declaration of war. Also, put the fleet on red alert."

* * *

FROM: Halladi High Command
TO: The Wrath Of Poseidon
SUBJECT: Declaration of War
MESSAGE READS:
It has come to our knowledge that a submarine- or submarines- under the command of your officer(s) has attacked and destroyed an Akula-I Class Hunter Killer Submarine under the command of a Halladi Officer. This, as you may know, is an act of war. We realise you had a blockade in there area, however the boat was attacked aproximatly 50 Nautical Miles outside the area being blockaded. As such, we in Hallad demand an explanation for your acts against our nation.

To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonian Foreign Ministry

We do not recognise your illegal exclusion zone. Praetonian shipping shall
move freely inside this 'exculsion zone'. If you should sink a Praetonian
Warship it will be considered an act of war and we shall take appropriate
action against you immediately. Do not test us.


PWS Hoplite, Flagship 8th Fleet

Comms Officer: Sir, we are receiving reports that some upstart young nation is challenging Praetonian naval power in region. They claim to have sunk a Halladian ship.

Admiral: Put the fleet to High Submarine Alert and ping all active sonar. (OOC: This will make my battleship light up like a christmas tree on sonar but I now know where all active sonar arrays are located, ie your subs. They will continue pinging so you cant attack without being spotted).

"Captain, we're under attack!" Yelled one officer.

"Shit! Counter measures!" Another screamed. Crewmen raced against the clock to do as ordered. The captain hadn't even given the order.

A set of four counter measures were sent out, but it was to late.

"Destryer [i]Allah's Command[i] this is Akula class- nevermind- we're under attack!"

The ship was hit and exploded (or do they implode?).

* * *

On the surface

"Captain Abdel, we've just recieved an transmission on the emergancy frequency. One of our Akula's was just destroyed."

"By Allah! We have not intruded on the blockade!" He sighed. "Hasan send another message to the High Command informing them of- what nation was it?"

"More than likely they're The Wrath Of Poseidon's Subs."

"Right. Inform the High command of their declaration of war. Also, put the fleet on red alert."

* * *

FROM: Halladi High Command
TO: The Wrath Of Poseidon
SUBJECT: Declaration of War
MESSAGE READS:
It has come to our knowledge that a submarine- or submarines- under the command of your officer(s) has attacked and destroyed an Akula-I Class Hunter Killer Submarine under the command of a Halladi Officer. This, as you may know, is an act of war. We realise you had a blockade in there area, however the boat was attacked aproximatly 50 Nautical Miles outside the area being blockaded. As such, we in Hallad demand an explanation for your acts against our nation.

The Grand Shark looked up from his wistful contemplation of the charred corpse of the former CIC Submarine operations.

A very nervous looking aide proferred the text of the Halladi communiqué, which he read.

"Make the following reply:"


To: Halladi High Command
From: The Hall of The Grand Shark, The Wrath Of Poseidon

While we always regret unnecessary loss of life, we point out that in this case it was pure Halladi stupidity which caused the loss of your submarine.

Kindly reread the terms of the declared blockade.

Yes, the surface blockade limit was 850 nautical miles, but submarines were explicitly prohibited at any distance. This was necessary for the security of our vessels.

Given that you clearly have a means of communicating with submerged submarines, it was your responsibility to withdraw them immediately. That you failed to do so should rest on your conscience.

If you should view this as some kind of act of war then so be it, but if you withdraw your forces we will not pursue.

The presence of submarines or antisubmarine activities however will be vigorously resisted.

Your choice.

Wrath of Poseidon I have accepted a peace treaty from Belecus please stand down and stop the naval blockade so Morathania can begin to pull out civilians and military forces inside Jefferson. Please comply or you will be impeding with the peace treaty signed earlier.

To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonian Foreign Ministry

We do not recognise your illegal exclusion zone. Praetonian shipping shall
move freely inside this 'exculsion zone'. If you should sink a Praetonian
Warship it will be considered an act of war and we shall take appropriate
action against you immediately. Do not test us.


PWS Hoplite, Flagship 8th Fleet

Comms Officer: Sir, we are receiving reports that some upstart young nation is challenging Praetonian naval power in region. They claim to have sunk a Halladian ship.

Admiral: Put the fleet to High Submarine Alert and ping all active sonar. (OOC: This will make my battleship light up like a christmas tree on sonar but I now know where all active sonar arrays are located, ie your subs. They will continue pinging so you cant attack without being spotted).


OOC

Please tell me how your fleet is dispositioned and where you are respective to the 850nm circle around the coast of Jefferson. After all since your ships are pinging now you can hardly make any claims for stealth!

What range claims do you make for your active sonar against your own submarines?

Are you near the Haladi fleet?

I requested this information at the beginnng of the thread, and refusing to supply it just means that I'll make assumptions that you might not like...

As far as pokes at upstart young nations goes, that's the mystery of beneath the sea, you don't always know what you're really facing.

<Message from Morathania to Wrath of Poseidon>
As stated earlier a peace has been reached and to comply with the peace agreements I need to pull my troops out of Jefferson. I need you to stop your blockade so that Morathania ships will be able to begin the deportation of Morathanian citizens and the removal of armed forces currently in Morathania. I suggest that you stop your blockade immediately the war is over and I also suggest that if you want to continue the blockade your just making it harder for your ally Belecus to achieve his goal of establishing Belecus rule in Jefferson. Please cease and desist all activity off the shores of Jefferson and Belecus.
<End Message>

Wrath of Poseidon I have accepted a peace treaty from Belecus please stand down and stop the naval blockade so Morathania can begin to pull out civilians and military forces inside Jefferson. Please comply or you will be impeding with the peace treaty signed earlier.

With regret the safety of our vessels is paramount. The blockade will have to remain until Halad and Praetonia stand down their forces and withdraw.

Hallad has chosen to withdraw their fleet of supplies. It shall go bak to Hallad with the reinforcements that had been dispatched.

--------------------------------
NEWSFLASH: Morathanian Forces Give Up the Jefferson Colony to Beleci Forces
--------------------------------

In an amazing show, the government of Morathania has signed the peace treaty offer which the government of Belecus has put forward, signing the Jefferson Colony to be officially be a part of the territory of Belecus.

However it seems as if Morathanian Forces are having trouble complying with the new treaty, as they are unable to withdraw all forces due to hostile naval presense just off the coast of the Naval colony.

The Beleci government has promised to contact the government of [i]The Wrath of Poseidon to try to resolve the situation. Peter Allen will begin tours of the newly aquired land sometime next month.

Thank you Beleci I need to move my colonists and troops out of their ASAP.

------------------------------
Official Announcement from the Republic of Austar Union
------------------------------

By request from Premier Peter Allen of the Belecus Colonial State, we have ordered a shipment of some further 500 000 soldiers into the Colonial State, to help provide national security to that nation.

We are willing to provide this protectorate service to Peter Allen and the Belecus Colonial State, because they had made the peace-treaty with the Jefferson Colony in order to aquire the land, rather than to sustain the war.

Effectively, this means that should any nation attack the Belecus Colonial State, or any of its territory, it will be defended off by joint Austar Union and Belecus Forces. In the meantime, the current forces in the Colonial State have been posted along points through-out the nation, including in the newly aquired Jefferson Colony.

Signed, President Madison
The Republic of Austar Union

OOC: It's sitting just outside Jefforson territorial waters near the port.

OCC: The Wrath Of Poseidon, can you explain to me how you managed to positioned your subs in the area when I had a Marine Amphibious Landing Group
(ie. virtually an idependent fleet) in the region since to very beginning of this?

Anyways
IC: Raginsheep welcomes the news of peace between the two warring sides. However, it condemns AU's decision to deploy a futher 500000 soldiers into the area because this is seen as an agressive and excessive.

The QRF troops will stay in Morathania untill further notice.

------------------------------------------------------------------------


The 10 Camewottian B-52 bombers will return home, although the 7500 Marines will join the QRF troops.

OCC: The Wrath Of Poseidon, can you explain to me how you managed to positioned your subs in the area when I had a Marine Amphibious Landing Group
(ie. virtually an idependent fleet) in the region since to very beginning of this?

Anyways
IC: Raginsheep welcomes the news of peace between the two warring sides. However, it condemns AU's decision to deploy a futher 500000 soldiers into the area because this is seen as an agressive and excessive.

OOC

Because you didn't RP any antisubmarine tactics I chose not to react to you, just as any surface force can have shadowing submarines without knowing a thing.

Also a circle of about 1500 nm is a lot of sea, it would show considerable hubris if you claimed to be able to keep that area submarine-free...

OOC: It's sitting just outside Jefforson territorial waters near the port.
OOC

It can't be.

It's godmodding to claim to be able to negotiate 850nm of hostile waters in a fleet that can't possibly average more than 25 knots.

Try again or withdraw.

OOC: If you bothered to read my posts you'd notice that they'd been in the area for around 2 months and moved close to the port before your 'exclusion zone' was put in place. Attack my fleet and Ill bomb yournation into the ground.

The government of the Federation of Morathania, because of hostile naval activity in the region, are going to move troops and colonists overland through Raginsheep into the newly aquired territory in New Rose. This is in response to a blockade that is still in effect around Jefferson's shores. The Army Corps of Engineers is already in this new area in the north and west of New Rose to begin construction of roads and an airport along with civilian and military structures. These troops will be moved out of this territory as soon as the Federation of Morathania is able. This is not an act of war on any nation that the troops will be passing through. Nor does this violate the treaty. The Federation of Morathania hopes that this new colony will be a peaceful one that will not see the wars of its first colonial escapade.

OOC: If you bothered to read my posts you'd notice that they'd been in the area for around 2 months and moved close to the port before your 'exclusion zone' was put in place. Attack my fleet and Ill bomb yournation into the ground.
OOC

I can only admire your negotiating technique.

One little problem - The Wrath of Poseidon is a wholly sub-aquatic nation and you have no idea how to find it.

Yours on the other hand has such a large number of surface vessels that it was simplicity itself for our satellites to locate you and your precious Imperial Fleets.

Now look back up the thread and wonder about Tango Fleet...

OOC: To be honest Im on the verge of ignoring your 'subaquatic nation'. It think it odd that such a young nation would have that many ships, esspecially if they did not buy them and they live underwater, where mining is next to impossible.

<Message from Morathania>
Wrath of Poseidon please cease and desist from your blockade and harrassment of other countries. After the peace treaty your blockade has been rendered illegal for your ships are now within the sovereign territorial waters of Belecus who you claim was your ally in this war. Either you stop your blockade and send your ships home or you have to face Belecus because what was Jefferson is now a part of Belecus. Please stop the blockade or serious action might have to be taken by both Belecus and the allied nations.
<End Message>

OOC: Just one question: With an economy of "strong" how can you afford to fill a huge area with submarines?

We hereby lift the general naval blockade from Jefferson Colony. All surface ships may proceed without let or hindrance with the exception of those belonging to Praetonia.

In the light of their arrogant and belligerent attitude we declare the Praetonian Imperial Fleet currently near Jefferson to be hostile and subject to destruction without further warning.

Understand this is not a general declaration of war, and we strongly advise Praetonia not to take it as such.

We are a nuclear power with ample assets in range of the Praetonian homeland.

Any general conflict will surely result in the loss of millions of Praetonian lives.

OOC: All of my 'arrogant comments' were either OOC or between individual people onboard ships which you can't possibly have heard. Therefore your declaration is IGNOREd.

Any attack on Morathania will also be considered an attack on the nations of the Victoria and Ottoman Alliances I would strongly advise you that your fleets stand down and stop harrassing Praetonia. He has plenty of allies and alliances and a sophisticated military. You shouldn't press your luck.


Although the blockade has been lifted troops are already marching toward the area of New Rose that Morathania has aquired. At this time everything will go according to plan and since Praetonia is an ally and their has been a serious threat against him in the waters off Jefferson we cannot at this time transport our troops via ship for fear of a major war breaking out. The entire 1st, 8th and 5th army corps are to be moved into the area aquired by Morathania which will be known as Jefferson as a reminder of the lost colony. All names from old Jefferson will be taken to this new region.

Update for Belecus:
Currently 235,000 out of a total of 335,000 civilians have begun to be transported, either overland or on airplanes to Jefferson, the new one in Rose's claim.
Currently 175,000 out of 525,000 troops are being transported to from what is now Belecus into Jefferson.

OOC: When I say Jefferson from now on it will be to name the new aquired territory in New Rose which will be called Jefferson. The old colony of Jefferson has ceased to exist as an entity thereby allowing me to name my new colony Jefferson.

OOC: Just one question: With an economy of "strong" how can you afford to fill a huge area with submarines?

OOC
I specified exactly how many submarines I was using.

With decent hydrophones and careful positioning they *can* cover a huge area.

Wrath has no armed forces except for submarines, and I haven't used more than feasible given absolutely no expenditure on armies, few surface ships and no air force.

I'm realistically exploring the implications of a completely unbalanced view of life, and rather object to the implications of godmodding considering how blithely millions of men have been shunted around the area in no time in this thread.

OOC: All of my 'arrogant comments' were either OOC or between individual people onboard ships which you can't possibly have heard. Therefore your declaration is IGNOREd.

OOC

Nope - look at the language of your official communiqué again.

It certainly qualifies as arrogant and belligerant.

OOC: Im doing you a favour by ignoring your attacks. I've pinged sonar, I know exactly where your subs are. I could destroy them one by one using ASW helicopters if I wanted, but I'm not going to because you've been godmodded (at least accept that basing IC actions on OOC comments is godmodding).

OOC: Whatever.

IC:

PWS Hoplite, Flagship 3rd Fleet

Fleet Liason Officer: Sir, all ships are tracking enemy submarines. The Wrath of Poseidon has threatened this fleet. They say they will 'move to destroy it'

Admiral: Really? We know where all their ships are, decoys and countermeasures are ready. Move to engage with ASW helicopters.

Three ASW helicopters took off from the PWS Herron, a Dauntless Class ASW Frigate.

"Icarus to Herron. Icarus to Herron. Moving to engage hostiles."

Captain: Don't fire until we give the order, Icarus. Hover above target.


To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonia

We demand that you retract your threats made against our fleet. We do not
wish lives to be lost on both sides. Your exclusion zone was illegal, and as a
member of the Organisation of Maratime Powers we are bound by treaties to
oppose such an illegal act.

"Comms to Captain - Situation Alert via VLF"

"Yes?"

"Satellite surveillance of the Praetonian fleet reveals substantial ASW activity."

"Any idea who they think they're chasing XO?"

"Beats me Sir, there weren't any foreign subs in that area, let alone ours!"

"Yes, I wonder why they thought we'd move close enough for their active sonar to notice, with them pinging away like that for days? ".

"Strange are the ways of surface-huggers sir!"

"Yes indeed, XO. Carry On"

And Echo Fleet carried quietly on towards their next assignment.

OOC: If you notice, they're moving to engage. That doen't neccessarily mean they can see anythingas you haven't told me where your subs are, for all your moaning about me not telling you where my surface ships are.

IC: PWS Hoplite, Flagship 3rd Fleet

ASW Officer: Our ships are scanning the area. They have yet to find anything.

Admiral: Move the fleet towards New Rose. We need to be able to drop off our convoy if circumstances allow. Keep a few frigates ahead of the fleet to search for submarines.

To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonia

We demand that you retract your threats made against our fleet. We do not
wish lives to be lost on both sides. Your exclusion zone was illegal, and as a
member of the Organisation of Maratime Powers we are bound by treaties to
oppose such an illegal act.


To: Praetonia
From: The Wrath Of Poseidon

We do not threaten or bluster. Your fleet is doomed, just not necessarily today. It is currently too close to the coast and we have no quarrel with the inhabitants of that land.

We do not recognise international treaties that we are not signatory to, and there is no such thing as illegal or legal between nations not bound by mutual agreements.

Our exclusion zone was maintained by force of arms, no more no less. It was your choice to ignore it and no amount of post-action rationalisation will change that.

OOC

Could you quote any message that you're replying to?

Exactly what action did we take? All we did what ignore it. I did not say that you are bound by the traety, but we are and the treaty means we are obligued to keep the seas free. You had no right to prevent maratime traffic in territory that is not yours.

Exactly what action did we take? All we did what ignore it. I did not say that you are bound by the traety, but we are and the treaty means we are obligued to keep the seas free. You had no right to prevent maratime traffic in territory that is not yours.

Ignoring an exclusion zone is an action.

Territory that is not ours?

International waters don't belong to anyone.

If you have signed a treaty "requiring you to keep the seas free" then we suggest that you execute a diplomat or two.

The concept is meaningless, either you can enforce your desires or you can't.

Currently you can't - all our forces are well out of range of any assets you could use to find them.

Not me, the Organisation of Maratime Powers and believe me, they can. I could have reported this but it would be pointless as you are only a June nation (this isn't meant offensively, it is a simple fact that smaller nations on NS areless powerful than larger ones, unless the smaller nation has a much higher economy rating, which you dont).

That was exactly my point, you dont own international waters therefore you have no right to impose an exclusion zone on other nations using it.

Ignoring an exclusion zone is a lack of action.

IC:


To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonia

We have no wish to fight your nation. We objected to your illegal exclusion
zone, but that is now gone and no Praetonian ships were sunk, therefore we
have no quarel with you. We respect you, even if we do not particularly like
you after your recent actions, but we would like to sign a pact of non-
agression. We hope that you are willing to take this leap to ensure friendship
between our two maratime nations, and bickering and loss of life. Will you
accept our non-agression pact and peace?

OOC

In case anyone's confused by events between us and Praetonia, we decided to pull out shortly after Hallad agreed to withdraw.

We certainly had no subs as close as 75 miles to the coast as we were expecting all the action at the exclusion zone borders.

So the stuff since then has been diplomatic smoke and mirrors while Echo Fleet pulled out of the area.

Praetonia's claiming to detect subs and being ready to attack them was just an indication of how poorly undersea warfare is understood.

A submarine force equipped with stand-off weapons like ours would never go close enough to a carrier battle group to risk detection.

The assumption would be that as soon as a weapons launch occurs the location of the sub would be given away, and then it's a race between the sub and an ASW helicopter.

The helicopter will be racing to drop sonobuoys or a dipping sonar at the launch location, and the sub will be racing to get out of range.

So you position subs at least 300 miles away, which takes an ASW helicopter 2-3 hours to get to the scene. In that time the sub can be a further 80-120 miles away in any direction and stands a good chance of escape.

OOC: You'd be suprised what people do on NS. It's nice to have more people who understand naval warfare, but really I was expecting another 'i mass j00 with m1 ub3r subs!!!' n00b. I am sorry to have underestimated you.

Now can you respond to my communique, please.

IC:


To: The Wrath of Poseidon
From: Praetonia

We have no wish to fight your nation. We objected to your illegal exclusion
zone, but that is now gone and no Praetonian ships were sunk, therefore we
have no quarel with you. We respect you, even if we do not particularly like
you after your recent actions, but we would like to sign a pact of non-
agression. We hope that you are willing to take this leap to ensure friendship
between our two maratime nations, and bickering and loss of life. Will you
accept our non-agression pact and peace?


We will only agree to a non-aggression pact if you will agree to honour any future exclusion zones that we may declare should our paths cross again.

We do not accept your contention that your or any other nation's large population gives you an automatic right to ignore our wishes as having billions of population and massive economic power makes no difference when pitching fleet against fleet.

We especially demand respect for our abilities. The force mix we use is carefully calculated to allow us to "hit above our station" so to speak, and we are quite confident that a carrier battle group can be overwhelmed by one of our fleets should push come to shove.

This is the fundamental principal behind our nation - we act as the fulcrum by which great battles may turn their course.

We will not accept limits upon that role.

Hall of The Grand Shark
The Wrath of Poseidon.

OOC: I never said anything about larger nations having automatic right to ignore your wishes IC or OOC, although I said something similar OOC, you rather missed the point.

IC:

We cannot accept exclusion zones, as not only are we treaty bound to attempt to remove barriers to maratime travel, but we also do not recognise you, or any other nation, as having any right to demand that any other nation be barred under threat of military force from any area of the waters.

OOC: You'd be suprised what people do on NS. It's nice to have more people who understand naval warfare, but really I was expecting another 'i mass j00 with m1 ub3r subs!!!' n00b. I am sorry to have underestimated you.

Now can you respond to my communique, please.

OOC

Thanks for the apology.

I have!

I see that, and I have replied to the reply.

IC:

We cannot accept exclusion zones, as not only are we treaty bound to attempt to remove barriers to maratime travel, but we also do not recognise you, or any other nation, as having any right to demand that any other nation be barred under threat of military force from any area of the waters.

Then I'm afraid formal agreement is impossible.

There is no state of hostility or alliance between us.

We agree not to attack your population unless you show signs of attempting to find or attack ours.

If you cross one of our exclusion zones again. you shall lose the assets involved, or at least as many of them as we can sink.

Return to base.

Rules of engagement change:

Do not fire unless fired on or seeing obvious signs of ASW activity undertaken against you.

Message ends.

Then I'm afraid formal agreement is impossible.

There is no state of hostility or alliance between us.

We agree not to attack your population unless you show signs of attempting to find or attack ours.

If you cross one of our exclusion zones again. you shall lose the assets involved, or at least as many of them as we can sink.

Then I shall not be losing much. Good day.

While the last of the The Wrath Of Poseidon's submarines beginning to pull away, The Ironstorm, an Seawolf R class submarine slowly stalked the last submarine. As the Ironstorm approached its desgination point, it let out a solitary ping before stopping and disappearing into the depths of the ocean.

Colonists were pouring over the border into Raginsheep. They were marching with soldiers or on the back of 4X4s bringing all their belongings with them. To comply with the time constraints that Belecus had imposed on Morathania they had to set out on foot because the airport has not completed. The later arrivals would arrive by airplane though. Over 275,000 people embarked upon this hastily constructed road toward what would now be known as Jefferson in western New Rose. It was a hard journey through plains and junglebut finally after 2 and a half weeks they reached the new land. Which was set on a fertile plain with hills and forests. To these settlers who had just taken the Long March to this new land it looked like the promised land. As more arrived they began to plan out their new lives in this land.

While the last of the The Wrath Of Poseidon's submarines beginning to pull away, The Ironstorm, an Seawolf R class submarine slowly stalked the last submarine. As the Ironstorm approached its desgination point, it let out a solitary ping before stopping and disappearing into the depths of the ocean.

"Captain from Sonar - Contact S1 just pinged us - possible hostile action."

"Firing solution XO?"

"Yes sir - bearing 180, depth 200 and falling, speed 22."

"Load aft tubes 1 and 2 Distant Sword."
"Aft tubes 1 and 2 loaded."

"Open rear doors."
"Rear doors open."

"That ought to worry him a little..."

"Captain from Sonar - Contact S2 just emitted a sonar ping - possible prelude to hostile action."

"Firing Solution XO?"

"Not ideal sir - PNS S14 is much closer - they will have availability of their targeting laser."

"OK. Designate S2 as possible hostile."

The Captain mused on the problem. So far that Sea Wolf had been happy to sit behind them, and they hadn't yet reached the point where it would be necessary to sink it for reasons of operational security.

While they had a friendly submarine behind them as well, it wouldn't be advisable to fire while out of range of laser designation. A torpedo could be steered around it, but if it got into the path of a Distant Sword...

"Captain to Comms. Advise V23 that they'll be alone for a while, we're going back to help S7."

"Navigation - Come about - course 230 flank speed"

The great submarine slowly came around, leaving the much larger Vanguard sliding forward into the dark.

At their new 40 knots they would take about 4 minutes to close into range of the situation developing ahead,

"Load 1 Spearfish, Load 2 Spearfish, Load 3 Distant Sword, Load 4 Distant Sword."

"1 Loaded. 2 Loaded. 3 Loaded. 4 Loaded."

"Open bow doors."

"Bow doors open."

Now they would see...

"Comms to Captain - Comms laser advisory from S11 - they have turned to possibly aid S7."

"Sonar - any more submerged contacts apart from our two and the possible hostile?"

"No Captain."

"Very well - let's put some distance between us - maintain current course - flank speed 5 minutes then slow to optimum again"

This was a calculated risk, the towed sonar array was less sensitive at 40 knots.

However the rest of Fleet Echo was ahead, and any further interlopers would have to be very good indeed to slip in there.

"Captain to Comms - send a VLF advisory to HQ."

"Comms to Captain - VLF Advisory. S7 and S11 are engaging a possible hostile - we are ordered back to help escort V23."

"Captain to Comms - acknowledge."

"Navigation - bring us about - 223 flank speed depth 130"

The Trafalgar attack sub began its turn.

OCC: Does this mean that you're gonna attack my sub or something?

OCC: Does this mean that you're gonna attack my sub or something?

OOC

Under the current rules of engagement my subs will only attack if fired upon.

However the captain of your sub doesn't know my rules of engagement and so isn't allowed to act as he likes without actually firing.

That sonar ping was a provocation akin to a fighter locking on its air attack radar, not an actual attack so my subs won't fire if yours doesn't.

However your sub will have heard the doors open on S7 and will know it has live weapons trained on it.

So the question I've posed is whether your captain's temperament and rules of engagement will cause him to attempt an attack?

Your sub's captain may or may not know he is hopelessly outclassed in weaponry - as you didn't bother to declare your weapons fit before starting the RP your sub is limited to the RL load of a USN Seawolf.

65 knot wire guided torpedoes are not going to prevent your sub being sunk by 300 knot undersea missiles. Once your sub is destroyed the weapons will be limited to their own active sonar, and they will have travelled just 1/4 of the way. In my judgement the probability is high that a decoy will distract torpedoes that are reduced to their own devices so far away, so I am not that likely to lose a sub.

I'm prepared to throw a die to determine that, but the probability of sinking my sub will be 1/4 if you fire two torps and 1/3 if you fire four.

Anyway it's up to your captain now. His sonar is good enough to tell that at least one more sub has turned and is coming towards him, and the sub stll moving away has weapons live. Does his aggressiveness and faith in his sub overcome common sense, or does he slink away?

Your choice.

OOC: That was probably the longest OOC statement I have every seen. Also I've searched through Nationstates and I can't find any country with the name of The Wrath of Poseidon. Do you belong to nationstates? And if so what is your countries name?

OOC: That was probably the longest OOC statement I have every seen. Also I've searched through Nationstates and I can't find any country with the name of The Wrath of Poseidon. Do you belong to nationstates? And if so what is your countries name?

OOC

Yes The Wrath of Poseidon is a nationstates nation.

If I wasn't legitimate I couldn't post in this area.

What's your problem?

Oh just I was trying to search for your nation on Nationstates and I couldn't find it. No reason to get snippy I didn't mean anything by it. I though that you were maybe one of these jolt guys who came in and made a nation through the forum but not through Nationstates.
Still can't find it on Nationstates.net though.

Oh just I was trying to search for your nation on Nationstates and I couldn't find it. No reason to get snippy I didn't mean anything by it. I though that you were maybe one of these jolt guys who came in and made a nation through the forum but not through Nationstates.
Still can't find it on Nationstates.net though.

OOC

I'm not snippy - I was asking what your problem was with the search :-)

OOC: I don't know must be some bug with Nationstates because it keeps telling me that a certain nation doesn't exsist when I know it does. Must be something wrong they'll probably fix it soon.

OCC: I consider this matter finished anywayz.

OOC: I don't know must be some bug with Nationstates because it keeps telling me that a certain nation doesn't exsist when I know it does. Must be something wrong they'll probably fix it soon.

Did you include the 'the' in the search. That is part of his nation name exculding the perfix.

I don't know maybe. Lets just end this. Problem solved.

"Sonar to Captain - Contact S1 is retreating at what appears to be flank speed."

"Stand down Action Stations, close stern bow doors, unload all tubes."

"Make VLF message to HQ, potential hostile has abandoned action, inform rest of fleet"

And S7 and the rest of fleet Echo resumed their course back towards base.