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Just hours ago thousands of people both armed and non armed took to the streets of mexico city and El, Darodo destroying governmental facilities and killing many innocent civiliians. Those politics inside government house are well protected with hundreds of Special Forces outside but the people are racing towards them hoping to take over the government and set up a new government. Resistance is high amoungst those fighting the armed people. So far at least 500 innocent people have been killed and atleast 265 EUM Soldiers have been shot our captured. Those wanting a newer government are led by former general Chang. Could you please help us military wise?


From government house.

Is your government socialist?

The soldiers posted around government house are slowly been overun.
There are hundreds of Ex-Soldiers who helped form this nation have just created a Restince Organization known as the "People's Army". They are starting to depart to mexico cityfrom all over the nation. They are armed with Ak-47s, AKMs, RPGs, M-16s, Psg1 Sniper Rifiles and Home made explosives. The Peoples Army is also competing with the thousands of people for the newer government and are against both the other resitince and the currnent government.

<Whittier>

No. Why?

The soldiers posted around government house are slowly been overun.
There are hundreds of Ex-Soldiers who helped form this nation have just created a Restince Organization known as the "People's Army". They are starting to depart to mexico cityfrom all over the nation. They are armed with Ak-47s, AKMs, RPGs, M-16s, Psg1 Sniper Rifiles and Home made explosives. The Peoples Army is also competing with the thousands of people for the newer government and are against both the other resitince and the currnent government.
In that case, Whittier will be sending 12,000 troops across the border to oust the government and see to it a socialist government is set up and that Mexico becomes a sattalite nation of the Union Of People's Republics.

<Whittier>

No. Why?
It soon will be.

More troops will be sent later.

The soldiers posted around government house are slowly been overun.
There are hundreds of Ex-Soldiers who helped form this nation have just created a Restince Organization known as the "People's Army". They are starting to depart to mexico cityfrom all over the nation. They are armed with Ak-47s, AKMs, RPGs, M-16s, Psg1 Sniper Rifiles and Home made explosives. The Peoples Army is also competing with the thousands of people for the newer government and are against both the other resitince and the currnent government.

Well my Mexican friend, you are screwed. I hope the new socialist government join the International, a socialist organization...

Well my Mexican friend, you are screwed. I hope the new socialist government join the International, a socialist government...
5,000 troops from California, 3,000 from Arizona, and 4,000 from New Mexico cross the border into Mexico proper.

Well my Mexican friend, you are screwed. I hope the new socialist government join the International, a socialist government...
OOC: what's the international?

OOC: what's the international?

A socialist alliance. We militarily and economically protect ourselves and talk about outside issues.

A socialist alliance. We militarily and economically protect ourselves and talk about outside issues.
where? any of you members of the WHittier Pact?

Nope, I don't think so. We're not a region, we have a forum. Why, you wanna join? The more the merrier.

Nope, I don't think so. We're not a region, we have a forum. Why, you wanna join? The more the merrier.
I'd like to check it out.

Go to the Communist Lousiana thread it's titled:
Diplomatic Relations (Please Read) You'll see basic info and such.

The Former Secret Intelligence have just released details that theres a "Newer" Style Resistince. A newly formed organization known as the "nationalists", a 30-100 member group of teenagers armed with ak-47s, RPGs and plastic explosives have created a new style of Resistince. Members commit a guerilla style attack on the enemy (Whittier, Peoples Army and The current Government) and lure them into a more deadly situation causing maximuim damage but try not to loose their own. Early this afternoon several members blew up a train, widely used by the "People's Army" and persuaded the enemy to follow trapping them in a canal where explosive where set up. The results were 67 "PA Troops" being killed. Teenagers have great Imaginations. The nationalists had recently purchased 75 RPGs, 250 Ak-47s and 124 tonnes of explosives. The nationalists said that they would face a great deal of trouble along the main road to Mexico City.

The "Nationalists" are looking to purchase more weaponry.....
Anyone have some???

The "Nationalists" have just purchased the following:

[451] M-4 Assault Rifles
[67] M-4s w/ M203 Grenade Launchers
[60] M-249 SAW Light Machine Guns
[27] M-60 Machine Guns
[24] M-21 Sniper Rifles
[62] M-9 9mm Pistols
[6] 60mm M224 mortar
[18] 90mm Recoilless Rifles
[10] M-136 AT-4 Rocket Launchers
[9] Dragon Missile Sets
[3] Stinger Missile Sets
[2] Javelin Missile Systems
[164] (various) Radio communication devices
[11] Tactical Satellite Radios
[14] Laser range finder
[11] Laser Target Designators
[96] IR aim light
[9] IR viewer
[322] Night Vision devices
[2] 1/4 ton trucks

We have just recruiting at least 700 Lccals willing to die to rid of Whittier and The no good Government. The M-21s would be nice for when we reach occupied mexico City.

Estados Unidos Mexican, seeing how the situation is getting out of hand we would like to deploy 100,000 troops to protect the old government and all cities from attack if you will allow us.

2,000 F35s take off from their airfields in Whittier and fly into Mexican airspace and begin bombing Mexican government and rebel military positions.
Airfields and antiair radar are being specially targetted.
500 Whittierite tanks have entered northern mexico from the Arizona mountains.

Secret IC:

To aid the Nationalists, TBD sends 200 MiG-27s with pilot trainers to aid them, as well as...

[50] SVD Dragonuv Sniper Rifles
[12] Stryker IFVs
[12] M1A3 Abrams Tanks
[15] AH-60 Apache Helecopters
[35] SA-7 "Grail" Portable SAM Systems
[1] Naval Gunship
[500] MAR-13 Medium Assault Rifles
[12] "Doz" Bulldozers
[40] RPG-7V_A Advanced Rocket Launch Systems

...and keep quiet about it.

Secret IC:

To aid the Nationalists, TBD sends 200 MiG-27s with pilot trainers to aid them, as well as...

[50] SVD Dragonuv Sniper Rifles
[12] Stryker IFVs
[12] M1A3 Abrams Tanks
[15] AH-60 Apache Helecopters
[35] SA-7 "Grail" Portable SAM Systems
[1] Naval Gunship
[500] MAR-13 Medium Assault Rifles
[12] "Doz" Bulldozers
[40] RPG-7V_A Advanced Rocket Launch Systems

...and keep quiet about it.

To the Burnsian Desert:

Aid to the mexicans will be considered an act of war.

What are you talking about? We never helped them. We're completely neutral in this situation!

OOC: That was secret IC.

Whittier, leave us or prepare to meet heavy resistince!!! :mad:

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Whittier, leave us or prepare to meet heavy resistince!!! :mad:
The 200 C130's fly in low across the mexican border and make a pass over the hills. On the second pass, objects began dropping from them, with parachutes opening.
300,000 Whittier airborne troops were making Whittier's first airborne assault on mexican territory.
As they landed, they began gathering their shoots and helping down their comrades who had gotten caught in the trees. Some of them landing in water.
They pulled their weapons to the ready, and began low crawling to their meeting point so as not to be seen.

We wish for a peaceful soultion to the expolusion of Whittier from our land. This is our land but even thought theres a civil war, Whittier do not belong here.

We wish for a peaceful soultion to the expolusion of Whittier from our land. This is our land but even thought theres a civil war, Whittier do not belong here.
Whittier will leave once you agree to have a socialist government.

20,000 Whittierite troops quickly seize the border towns of Tijuana and Mexicali.

200 F35's began bombing missions against the mexican naval base at Ensenada.

500 F117's flew across the border and began dropping smart bombs on the city of Hermosillo.

300 Whittier Special ops forces seized the towns of Nogales and Heroica, on the border with Arizona.
300,000 troops have crossed into Mexico at Nogales and are moving south toward, Hermosillo.

Whittier, your nation's armed forces have no right to be deployed within sovereign Estados Unidos Mexican territory. Their civil war is none of your concern, and you are deluded if you believe you can cram socialism down the throat of a smaller nation through use of force and plan to succeed.

The Republic wishes you nothing but misfortune in the coming weeks.

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President Nicklas Schaeffer

SECRET IC to EUM:

If worst comes to worst, the Burnsian Desert will be willing to contribute forces to your cause.

The Whittier Navy is moving in to blockade the entire Mexican coast. (both of them).
The fleets involved, are 13th, 9th and 10th blockading the west coast of Mexico.
The 11th 6th and 15th blockading the east coast of Mexico.
This could be ended if Mexico adopts socialism.
Whittier calls for the support of fellow socialist nations in subduing Mexico.

Due to the gravity of the situation the Kingdom of Yr Widdfa will begin sending funds to the Nationalist forces that they may buy weponry and equipment from nations who may supply it better. In addition, with your permission, we will deploy a group of spec-ops troops to act as advisors to your forces.

What is Socialism???

It's where the government is all powerful and tries to make everyone the same, physically, mentally, economically... there is no rich, no poor. The populace is poor, and the leader is the only rich one.

What is Socialism???
Have you checked your other thread?

socialism


general term for the political and economic theory that advocates a system of collective or government ownership and management of the means of production and distribution of goods. Because of the collective nature of socialism, it is to be contrasted to the doctrine of the sanctity of private property that characterizes capitalism. Where capitalism stresses competition and profit, socialism calls for cooperation and social service. 1
In a broader sense, the term socialism is often used loosely to describe economic theories ranging from those that hold that only certain public utilities and natural resources should be owned by the state to those holding that the state should assume responsibility for all economic planning and direction. In the past 150 years there have been innumerable differing socialist programs. For this reason socialism as a doctrine is ill defined, although its main purpose, the establishment of cooperation in place of competition remains fixed.

It's where the government is all powerful and tries to make everyone the same, physically, mentally, economically... there is no rich, no poor. The populace is poor, and the leader is the only rich one.
No. that's communism.

communism and socialism are two separate and frequently mutually antagonistic movements.

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001

sorry but we cannot allow socialism take over. just Continue killing thousands of innocent children and women. it wont make you feel good you dirty Fu**!

<Whittier>
Feeling better now that youve just killed atleast 1000 school kids and women when you sacked and burnt a primary school 115 miles south of Mexico City.

sorry but we cannot allow socialism take over. just Continue killing thousands of innocent children and women. it wont make you feel good you dirty Fu**!
WHittier does not kill civilians.

OOC: Check the other thread.

<Whittier>
Feeling better now that youve just killed atleast 1000 school kids and women when you sacked and burnt a primary school 115 miles south of Mexico City.
We have no troops south of Mexico City. All our forces are still in the north, but they are headed to Mexico City.

Why? Why was 1000 innocent civilans found dead with "Whittier" bullet shells in the burnt school. there is no resistance around for 50 miles so u did it!!!

why is ther bullet shells used by your army there then huh. Just a rogue granny with a few thousand bullet shells used by the Whittier army and accidently burnt down the school whilst having a cigarette huh?

Why? Why was 1000 innocent civilans found dead with "Whittier" bullet shells in the burnt school. there is no resistance around for 50 miles so u did it!!!
Whittier bullet shells? Ah now we know this is propaganda. Whittier uses the same type of ammo everyone else uses. Standard issue NATO rounds. No such thing as Whittier ammo.

The government of Whittier is prepared to sit down with the representatives of the Mexican people and discuss the matter.

our radars show Whittier troop movement in the south but no other troop movement other than the resistince or the thousands of school kids.

Whittier is prepared to pull its troops out of Mexico if we can get the Mexican side to the peace table.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341390

Those are our terms.

<Whittier> what do u wish to discuss. It could be mass murder of innocent civilans or maybe mass murder of toucans....

<Whittier> what do u wish to discuss. It could be mass murder of innocent civilans or maybe mass murder of toucans....
The restoration of peace and stability in your nation. As your neighbor to the north, we can not allow your nation to fall into chaos.
Since your present govt. is derelict in its responsibilities, Whittier has no choice but to send in troops to remove it from power and establish a Whittier freindly regime. Particularly when there are terrorists entering WHittier from Mexico, since before your civil war started.
Check the other thread for our peace terms. Take them or leave them.
If you reject them, then socialism will be imposed on your nation. And I will have no choice but to kill more of your people.

You should ask Letila and Magdha what its like to be under Whittier military occupation.

We will allow 5000 Whittier peacekeepers no more no less.
We will allow a 250 member socialist party in our government as soon as the civil war has ended. Whittier can take part in the forming of a new consitution when the war is over. we will allow certain bases in both the north and south of Estados Unidos Mexican for peackeeping reasons and to protect your nation from a southern invasion (if theres ever one) and to protect the gulf of Mexico with a joint task force of both Whittier and Estados Unidos Mexicans Air Forces. but not until the people of Estados Unidos Mexican prevent the civil war from going furthur will solve it themselves. But once its over our forces and national police will be 100% trained by your nations army, navy and air forces. u do not have to pay rent for your military bases etc neither do u have to support us financialy. Any Questions?

Can we make the constutio under my new thread called The New Estados Unidos Mexican Constitition?

Do u accept our agreements?

We will allow 5000 Whittier peacekeepers no more no less.
We will allow a 250 member socialist party in our government as soon as the civil war has ended. Whittier can take part in the forming of a new consitution when the war is over. we will allow certain bases in both the north and south of Estados Unidos Mexican for peackeeping reasons and to protect your nation from a southern invasion (if theres ever one) and to protect the gulf of Mexico with a joint task force of both Whittier and Estados Unidos Mexicans Air Forces. but not until the people of Estados Unidos Mexican prevent the civil war from going furthur will solve it themselves. But once its over our forces and national police will be 100% trained by your nations army, navy and air forces. u do not have to pay rent for your military bases etc neither do u have to support us financialy. Any Questions?
WHittier will only act as observer in the drafting of the new constitution. Only the people of Mexico, who have lived their whole lives in Mexico, know which type of constitution will best serve them.
We need to discuss the basing agreement. You said you need bases in the south. What are concerns there? Our concern was with Communist Mississippi, to your north and to our east.
The civil war must end in order for any agreement to take effect. Your refugees are burden to our economy and making our nation more vulnerable to intertational terrorist groups. Hence, we wish to also discuss repatriation of your people to your nation.

Can we make the constutio under my new thread called The New Estados Unidos Mexican Constitition?
yes

ok

Mexico city - goverment house
The politics which were trapped inside goverment house have finally been released by the Former General Changs "Peoples Army" and were welcomed back onto the streets with thousands of people celebrating the end of the Civil War. But then suddenly the parade was fired upon with M-60s. A few of General Changs loyalists were killing people by the second. Then Several Sniper bullets came spiraling at them killing all including Chang himself. Whittier has stopped the war. After the celebrations the government was back in buisness and talked the "nationalists" into surrendering their arms they had agreed. Hundreds of thousands of people has turned out in mexico city to celebrate the end of the civil war with fireworks and traditional dancing. All the happiness that now calms our nation is all thanks to Whittier.
The people of Estados Unidos Mexican would like to appreciate them with a special memorial in the city centre dedicated to those who died ridding of changs loyalists.

You should ask Letila and Magdha what its like to be under Whittier military occupation.

It's really not bad..... But you didn't create a socialist government in Magdha. Though you did help us use that excessive military spending to create free Healthcare for those who qualify and Public Schools for the first time in our history.

<magdha>
what was your invasion like?

It's really not bad..... But you didn't create a socialist government in Magdha. Though you did help us use that excessive military spending to create free Healthcare for those who qualify and Public Schools for the first time in our history.
The occupation govt. is socialist, but you get the final say on the final form your government will take.

<magdha>
what was your invasion like?


Well Whittier stepped in and created a democracy, and a stable one at that. Plus he's now a good ally of mine..... (Plus he did it to save me from an ass kicking of royal preportions by 20 nations.)