NationStates Jolt Archive


Whittier sends troops to Palestine

Whittier
19-07-2004, 06:15
Civil War has erupted in Palestine today and Whittier is very concerned about the situation on the ground. Based on this report.

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Militants sacked and burned Palestinian government offices Sunday, the latest sign of growing anger over Yasser Arafat’s decision to reach into his old guard and choose a loyalist relative as his new security chief.
The divide between the two sides centered on the appointment of Moussa Arafat, Arafat’s cousin, as the new head of Palestinian security. Many Palestinians rejected him as a symbol of corruption and cronyism, propelling long-held dissatisfaction into the open.

At least 12 Palestinians were wounded in fighting between Palestinian militants and security forces loyal to Moussa Arafat as a gunbattle raged in the southern Gaza Strip. Medics in Rafah said 12 people had been brought to the hospital with wounds from the gunbattle at the town’s military intelligence compound. At least one person was in critical condition, they said.
A reporter for Nationstates Network News was shot dead by the insurgents.
His camera man is being treated for serious injuries at Bethlehem hospital.
Dozens of masked gunmen marched through the Nusseirat refugee camp in central Gaza after sundown Sunday, chanting, “No to Moussa Arafat! Yes to reform!”
The unrest began after Arafat decreed a consolidation of about a dozen disparate security branches into three services — a key element of reform that the United States and Egypt have said would be necessary to revive deadlocked peace efforts.
But the Palestinian leader defied international peacemakers by declining to put the security forces under the control of the Cabinet, and by tapping Moussa Arafat for the top security post.

Protesting the appointment, militants broke into a building of the Palestinian Authority in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis early Sunday and burned two offices. A security guard was wounded in a gunfight.

Hundreds of Palestinians, many of them carrying assault rifles, demonstrated in Gaza’s streets against Moussa Arafat.
The appointment deepened the rift between Arafat’s generation, which led the Palestinian struggle from exile for decades, and young Palestinians who lived under Israeli occupation and now accuse the old guard of corruption and monopolizing power.
There is constant gunfire on the streets of Palestine as rebels seek to overthrow Arafat's corrupt regime.


In response to these developments, Whittier is sending 120,000 troops back to Israel, to enter Palestine and quell the civil war. It is our goal to restore peace and stability to the area.
Communist Mississippi
19-07-2004, 06:18
There is no civil war in Israel, IDF is fine. In the CM world IDF owns Israel and "Palestine" is just a footnote in the history books. There is no civil war in IDF.
Doomduckistan
19-07-2004, 06:20
[OOC- same here- IDF looks like he has Israel under control without any Palestinian rebellion.]
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 06:21
OOC: 120,000 troops to create peace and stability? Ha....yea right.


IC: Euroslavia condemns this act as outright imperialism. We have a strong amount of distrust with Whittier, and see that it has an alterior motive upon entering the Middle East. Your brute force is nothing short of an invasion force, and we do not accept this act. We will go no further than condemning this, unless we receive international backing on this situation. I suggest you watch yourself, and re-think your move.
Communist Mississippi
19-07-2004, 06:24
This would mess up the RP I am currently in with IDF. I therefore ask that Whittier just scrap this idea please.
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 06:25
good idea.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 06:25
OOC: 120,000 troops to create peace and stability? Ha....yea right.


IC: Euroslavia condemns this act as outright imperialism. We have a strong amount of distrust with Whittier, and see that it has an alterior motive upon entering the Middle East. Your brute force is nothing short of an invasion force, and we do not accept this act. We will go no further than condemning this, unless we receive international backing on this situation. I suggest you watch yourself, and re-think your move.
Whittier proposes that if Euroslavia doesn't trust this and if they really believe this is imperialism, then why don't they send their own troops just to make sure we don't take the place over.
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 06:27
Because we don't 'meddle' in other nations affairs. It's not right. 120,000 troops in more than the US has in Iraq right now. It's obvious that it isn't just a 'peacekeeping' force. You need to keep your nose out of situations you don't belong in.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 06:28
Because we don't 'meddle' in other nations affairs. It's not right. 120,000 troops in more than the US has in Iraq right now. It's obvious that it isn't just a 'peacekeeping' force. You need to keep your nose out of situations you don't belong in.
Well how else are we going to restore peace?
Whittier
19-07-2004, 06:29
Due to international resistance to our peace plan. We are canceling our deployment but issuing an advisory against travel to Palestine.
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 06:31
You don't need to establish peace there. This is a regional conflict that they need to take care of themselves. They don't need a foreign nation in there, telling them what to do. It will only inflame the situation even more. I suggest you let the nations of the Middle East figure it out.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 06:36
You don't need to establish peace there. This is a regional conflict that they need to take care of themselves. They don't need a foreign nation in there, telling them what to do. It will only inflame the situation even more. I suggest you let the nations of the Middle East figure it out.
Very well, but we are sending a navy to quarantine the area.
Noitan Teppup
19-07-2004, 07:11
OOC: I'm not going to say much, it's just a one of rant and unless there is some reply which anoys me enough I will just leave once I'm done and not take it any further.

Basically put I'm tired of seeing NS nation claim actions against RL nations which are not part of the Nationstates universe. I've had a couple allies doing it in Africa, and one in the middle east... all of which RP actions being taken against nations which do not actually have players behind them, allowing you to do whatever you like (like kill all the first borns or something) and then RP the effect however you like (like saying that killing all first bornes made them respect their lives and come around to your benevolent rule).

Perhaps I wouldn't mind it so much, but it's being abused by alot of nations and to be honest we come to NS to get away from real life troubles and not RP how we would fix them with tonnes of baby killing soldiers.

That said, at least you haven't claimed that the government of the nation wants you to annex them... so I suppose I should be thankful.
IDF
19-07-2004, 07:30
I am the Israel in Whittier's universe, it appears he is RPing RL Israel and Palestine, not NS Israel. It is OK as this doesn't affect me.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 07:34
I am the Israel in Whittier's universe, it appears he is RPing RL Israel and Palestine, not NS Israel. It is OK as this doesn't affect me.
Quite correct. How's you war coming along? I can give some troops if you need them.
Plus I got this stuff off the RL news.
:)
Whittier
19-07-2004, 07:35
Also, in NS Isreal, IDF owns Israel, the west bank, gaza and Sinai.
Hamanistan
19-07-2004, 07:42
The nation of Hamanistan would like to offer our assistance in any peacekeeping efforts in the areas of Palestine and Israel. Our 7th Fleet can is going on patrol in the Indian Ocean, and can make way for the Mediterranean on a moments notice.



Occ: Ill post the stats of the fleet if you accept and if I can find them.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 07:50
The nation of Hamanistan would like to offer our assistance in any peacekeeping efforts in the areas of Palestine and Israel. Our 7th Fleet can is going on patrol in the Indian Ocean, and can make way for the Mediterranean on a moments notice.



Occ: Ill post the stats of the fleet if you accept and if I can find them.
We welcome the help.
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 15:54
Now how exactly is your navy going to stop a war? Yea, I can understand that it may stop shipments of weapons, but majority of the weapons are supplied by nations within the Middle East. Your 'quarantine' is pointless. You are so convinced that you need to 'fix' the war in the Middle East when all you're going to do is make it worse. Leave the Middle East to fix its own problems.
Jeruselem
19-07-2004, 16:16
I also claim Israel but as a Catholic Crusader state (like the Crusades).
In Kingdom of Jeruselem (which should really be Jerusalem), there would be no PLA, but in this case someone else can be Israel.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 16:24
I also claim Israel but as a Catholic Crusader state (like the Crusades).
In Kingdom of Jeruselem (which should really be Jerusalem), there would be no PLA, but in this case someone else can be Israel.
OOC: lol I doubt that the PLA existed either time that Jerusalem was an indepenedent state.
Which would be twice that I know of.
During the Crusades and around the time of 6,000BC to when the Israelites took over around 1200 BC.
Camewot
19-07-2004, 17:00
OOC: Would you please join VA forums? I send it to you in telegram.
Whittier
19-07-2004, 17:04
OOC: Would you please join VA forums? I send it to you in telegram.
OOC: Joined
Euroslavia
19-07-2004, 22:10
I am the Israel in Whittier's universe, it appears he is RPing RL Israel and Palestine, not NS Israel. It is OK as this doesn't affect me.


OOC: Bah....Go Tigers! hehe
Everiaal
19-07-2004, 22:17
Fellow Earthlings!

If Everiaal gets reports of any Palestinian being abused, Everiaal shall not hesitate to send all of it's military strength to reinforce the great country of Palestine!

Everiaal shall ally with Palestine, and anyone who tries to do harm to the great country of Palestine shall have to deal with the sophisticated and unrevealed people of Everiaal!

You have been warned!