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New Tank in development, need opinions AND Engines!

Artitsa
18-07-2004, 19:34
T-95UM2 (Pictures at bottom)

The T-95UM2 is a major improvement over the Russian T-95. The original 152mm gun remains and the turret is still unmanned. However, the turret has been considerably enlarged to fit a new Artitsan autoloader. The AAD-03 features a 16rpm rate of fire, and holds 8 shells per “quick shot” carrousel. Also, the larger turret allows for more ammunition and a bayonet ATGM launcher on each flank of the turret. The launchers extend from inside the turret, into firing position. There are another 8 missiles on a loading system within the tank, for reloading. Another feature of this expanded turret is borrowed from the Belarusian Stalker AFV. Two Igla-S launchers extend from the roof of the Turret. Each launcher has 2 missiles guided by internal “Slush” air search radar tracking system, and millimetre wave radar, also used to detect incoming ATGMs.

The T-95UM2 is a culmination of over 10 years of development. The tank boasts an impressive threat detection and assessment package, including bistatic, Slush, millimetre wave, and the new Artitsan HATE radar systems. The HATE system is actually a surface search system combining the data from a UAV and its own FLIR/IR/Thermal Imager. HATE is an acronym for High Altitude Target Evaluation. The laser range finder is a complex system in the T-95UM2, several times more advanced then its M1A2SEP counterpart. The system makes use of many mirrors, and hundreds of Algorithms pertaining to the adjustment and inherent accuracy associated with the ‘Goal Kicker’. The range finder (named Goal Kicker) is accurate out to 4km, and has its own 1500v battery. The thermal systems are among the best in the world, but also highly classified. The Thermal Imager (named “Free Safety”) can see crew members within a cold tank; however their heat signatures are faint. But, the Free Safety system is combined with a NV system to produce an accurate distinct image in the viewer, but this is not what makes it unique. Within its own 320 GB (5 GB RAM) super computer is information pertaining to over 1600 AFV’s, APC’s, IFV’s, Tanks, and Helicopters. The image seen by Free Safety is checked over hundreds of 3D renderings of these vehicles in that class. When the image is matched, the name is displayed on the screen. The goal kicker system will adjust, laying its beam on the known weak spots at that angle. This is all in the space of 1.468 Seconds, thanks to the 54GHZ processor. Of course the system can be over ridden, if the gunner already recognizes the target. The system is also expected to reduce friendly fire incidents by 70 to 80%. The entire system makes for a very advanced FCS.

The T-95UM2 features 6 active defence systems. The first line of defence is the jamming package. ‘Guard’ is informed of a missiles location and speed by the millimetre wave radar. The Guard system then directs a focused radar emission to blind and disable any Radar/Guidance systems in the missiles seeker head. The tank then shifts position, while the Jammer convinces the missile that is either two high or two low, and causing it to perform wild manoeuvres, either destroying it, or making it no factor. The second system emits a laser into the optical guidance, destroying the TV, as its camera lens is destroyed. The tank will once again make evasive manoeuvres. Third system: If a laser of different chemical composition to the goal kicker is detected on or around the tank, SHTORA II will activate, using aerosol to disrupt the beam. If the beam was placed on the tank, or nearby, the SHTORA II system will use several algorithms involving Sine, Cosine, and Tangent to find the initial location of the laser. The automated 14.7mm gun will be directed to the target, where HE shells will suppress the area. 4th system is TAMs2, using a mini 7.56mm CIWS system to defeat incoming top attack missiles. The system uses its own radar, but is usually combined with the millimetre wave radar. 5th system is ARENA II, which launches a series of grenades once the missile breaks proximity. The Grenades detonate destroying the missile. The last system is 4th Gen ERA, which will be explained later.

The 152mm gun on the T-95 has been upgraded to a 152mm ETC gun with magnetic rifling in the barrel. Muzzle velocity is approx. 2600 m/s. Since the round is entering the world at mach 3, the rounds scramjet kicks in, propelling it to mach 7. The round is a discarding sabot with a tungsten penetrator, and has a RHA penetration of 2500mm at 1km, 1850 at 2km, 1700 at 3km, 1500 at 4km, 1400 – 5km, 1300 – 6km. Beside the gun is the 40mm coaxial, used for APC killing. It has a range of 1800m. There is an automated 14.7mm Kord gun on the top of the turret. Two bayonet launchers are inside each side of the turret, extending when firing, while the Igla-S launchers come from the top of the tank. The Igla-S might be replaced eventually by a more advanced missile with greater range and speed.

The physical armour of the tank, comes in the form of 4th gen Kondor ERA, which also makes use of Smart Armour systems. An explosive charge launches a large metal plate into an oncoming KE round, deflecting it, or at the least significantly slowing it down. Behind Kondor, is a layer NxRA, mounted atop 2nd Gen Chobham armour. Behind this armour is a CERMAT layer, supported by Tungsten rods. Between the Tungsten rods is a thick layer of diamond buckyball matrix. Then after this layer is the COIL armour system, composed of a plate of aluminium, with several coolants which would be released upon impact of a HEAT round, nullifying the chances of Plasma being created. After this is another buckyball matrix, and a final layer of CERMAT. The final RHA equivalent is 3400mm on the front, 2800mm top, 1400mm sides, and 1000mm rear. (This is achieved due to the Diamond matrix only having to be about 2mm thick.) The real thickness of the armour is a little over 200mm of armour.

http://mars.walagata.com/w/artitsa/T-95UM2.gif
http://mars.walagata.com/w/artitsa/T-95UM2-2.gif

---Please do not take these pictures. I created them myself (also explains why their so bad), so please be considerate.---

Any questions? I also need a drivetrain, engine, and other such items.
Iron Blood
18-07-2004, 19:46
cardboard tank only good for pizza delievery.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 19:51
Bisons, your opinion is no longer valid in NS, therefor I disregard what you say.
Belem
18-07-2004, 19:57
what program did you use to make the picture?
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 20:00
Gmax. Its actually my first 3D image I've ever made.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 20:23
Bump? Keep in mind I will pay for an engine here...
Attican Empire
18-07-2004, 20:30
Our engines are classified and validated for use in the Pzkw Cougar only.
http://kuattech.com/cougar/cg8.jpg
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 20:30
There is an engine that I use in my tanks that could possibly work for you. I'm sure you're familiar with the rotary engine in the RX-8? Well what I did was tank that engine and increase the cylinders to 16 from the three in the RX-8. Also, you might want to consider a variation of the QNF turbine that's going to be in the Global Hawk. It would make for a weight increase because of the fact that you're going to have to use water to shield the reactor itself, but it'll give you unlimited range. I'll be switching over to the latter system soon but will continue to sell the basic tanks to the international community with the rotary cylinder system.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 20:32
What if we produced this engine together? Im sure our scientists could perfect it?
Kahta
18-07-2004, 20:36
I can supply you with engines. What are the specs. needed?
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 20:36
We already use larger QNF reactors for backup power supply to our cities and also use the principles that make the QNF reactors possible in our nuclear weapons. So, the process is already perfected, it's simply getting it down to size that will be hard. We will sell you detailed schematics to our reactors so that your scientists can get something similar down to size and in return you give us a prototype to analyze and mass produce. Would 500 million for the schematics be a fair amount of compensation for the schematics?
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 20:38
Gmax. Its actually my first 3D image I've ever made.

Must be relativly fast, say 45mph. The tonnage however will be a bitch, as its close to 80 tons.
New Empire
18-07-2004, 20:39
Hmm... A QN land based system. We'd be interested in such a thing, developing or purchasing.

Rather than water, why not use helium for reactor shielding?
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 20:40
SS, sounds good. Can you send me a PM explaining how it works a bit further?
Attican Empire
18-07-2004, 20:41
What the hell is QN
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 20:42
/me blinks
Helium will block gamma radiation? I thought you had to have something pretty heavy to block that kind of hard radiation.
New Empire
18-07-2004, 20:45
Yeah, I think the South Africans were using it in their Pebble Bed systems. It uses helium to drive a turbine.

Not sure about gamma rays though. I'll check.
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 20:53
Artistia, I'm sorry, but your continued support of Allanea and its policies prevents me from selling any advanced technology to your nation. As such, we strongly suggest that you go with a standard diesel turbine.
Attican Empire
18-07-2004, 20:54
It sounds like "QN" is a future tech anyways, which means I ignore it.
Doujin
18-07-2004, 20:56
As far as I know, helium isn't dense enough to stop radiation or anything - maybe to cool a reactor, they have some kind of helium based cooling system, but for radiation shielding? No. Alpha radiation in itself is just a highly charged Helium nucleus, beta radiation being a high-speed electron, and gamma radiation being a high-energy photon. Alpha radiation can be stopped by a piece of paper (or your skin), beta radiation can be stopped by aluminum, but gamma radiation takes about 30mm + of lead to stop. Lead is the leading choice for radiation shielding because it is in an abundant source (so it's much cheaper than gold or silver), is easier to work with, and is much less toxic in its basic form than, erm.. bismuth? and thalium which should be rite next to it on the periodic table.
New Empire
18-07-2004, 20:57
No, it is not. Unless you consider 2015 for a Global Hawk QNF Turbine to be too far out for ya. Although Scandavian said there was prototypes in '92... Scand, you know it a lot better than me. Lay it on him.

Doujin, that's right. Helium was PBRM cooling, I believe, but it simplified the shielding for reactors that used it.
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 20:59
Quantum Nucleonic Fusion is not future tech, far from it. It will be the primary power source on Global Hawks by 2020, earlier if things keep going as they are.

Doujin: Thank you, it is as I suspected. I assume water is dense enough to stop gamma?

New Empire: No prototype on the turbines in '92, those didn't come until '98. What happened in '92 were the initial proof-of-concept tests for the Hafnium reaction, which were obviously successful.
Weyr
18-07-2004, 21:06
http://popularmechanics.com/science/aviation/2004/5/atomic_wings/print.phtml
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 21:07
Thank you, all of you. And as far as Scandavian States knows, we are neutral in the current situation, just like no one currently knows your stance.
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 21:14
Actually, as far as we know your support of Allanea from the UnAPS/Accord war still stands, which is where our stance comes from. You're right, IC we think you're neutral, which would be the prudent thing to do. IC our government might, ah... disagree with yours but we do not think you stupid, which is what setting yourself against AMF would be.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 21:16
Which is why Im not directly getting involved. I think If I mobilized my entire navy, I could fend off any Naval threat. But the minute his soldiers land, Im screwed. Thus why Im keeping it to Submarine attacks ;)
Scandavian States
18-07-2004, 21:18
True, there is that, but I hope you're using the same missiles that Fluffywuffy does, or at the very least have it so that you're no the only one that uses them.
The BlackWolf Order
18-07-2004, 21:19
Personally, I'd suggest getting away from radial engines. Now, a Gas turbine engine, thats the way to go. I cant remember the exact name, I believe its a variant upon the GE T701 Turboshaft Gas Turbine Engine, is quite proficient in propelling vehicles. I might be wrong, of course, but put a pair of those into it, and you'll have a pretty well powered tank.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 21:21
Nah, he'll have a hard enough noticing the missiles before they slam into him. But I use the same missile as Agnotistcium. Besides, if Fluffywuffy wishes we can falsify purchasement and such. S'all good.

So besides the engine, what do you people think of the actual tank. I'd imagine the QNF engine would be able to power most if not all my systems as well?
New Empire
18-07-2004, 21:35
Uh, yeah. The QNF equipped Global Hawk is supposed to have a flight time measured in months.
Artitsa
18-07-2004, 21:41
Well that certainly settles it. Im using a QNF!!
The BlackWolf Order
18-07-2004, 21:44
Oh. A QNF. I didnt see the second page really....Bah. Stupid new forms, not used to 'em yet.
Artitsa
19-07-2004, 16:18
So, any comments on the tank? Will anyone reading this ignore it if I use a QNF propulsion?
Iron Blood
19-07-2004, 16:44
So, any comments on the tank? Will anyone reading this ignore it if I use a QNF propulsion?
no because you get to have chernobyl each time your tank gets blown up
Artitsa
19-07-2004, 16:46
K, thats great. Anyone else that actually understands the concept of QNF and is not Klamath's Puppet?
Scandavian States
19-07-2004, 17:06
no because you get to have chernobyl each time your tank gets blown up

Actually, you won't, but nobody expects a 12 year old to know anything about nuclear physics in the first place, so you're forgiven.
Crookfur
19-07-2004, 17:15
I understand the concept and to be honest i would put it a bit beyond the 2015 limit i go for (the same with scramjet rounds as all the articals i have seen about them mention a requirement for totally new materials and fairly redical redesigns, ETC guns i live with as they have actually biult and tested full sized tank ETC guns).


To be honest to get this upto 45mph you could likely get away with a hybrid turbine/electric system or just a straight turbine (but i would go for a hybird as it allows for quieter/cooler operation and a longer range).

Other than that the tank is well just another of the now numerous NS killer tanks, i would debate the usefulness of the CIWS personally i would just go for a more capable grenade system, liekly using explosively formed projectile rounds to smash just about anything out of the air.
Artitsa
19-07-2004, 17:29
Thank you very much Crookfur, that was helpful. But the QNF, Im thinking would also power the systems as well, so it doesn't take up as much space since there are ALOT of systems. And the Scramjet rounds... well from what I've seen their at 200mm now or some such. But yes, I am a 2015 nation, and to my understand most people accept that as close to Modern/Slightly Post Modern. As usual Crookfur, you make my tank better :D
Voderlund
19-07-2004, 17:40
I would say that the Pebble Bed reactor is a good choice for a propulsion system, with standard electromagnetic drive train wieghing 1.2 tons, supposed to give 30,000-35,000 Horsepower. (As tested 1997, GDE) My nation uses this power system in all of it's fighting vehicles, and I'm willing to negociate selling it to you.