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SRNN:USSNSR to begin diplomatic campaign for Jamaica

Neo-Soviet Russia
17-07-2004, 08:40
Soviet Russian News Network

Coming forth from the typical commercial break we see the camera panning over the studio momentarily. People at screens and on phones can be seen, talking to what sources they can as others research or develop graphics, all contributing to the show in some sort of way. The feed then switches to a camera positioned directly in front of the news desk. Here sits a well dressed male by the name of George McKinney. The rather attractive thirty-something news-anchor looks to the camera.

"A press release from the government of Neo-Soviet Russia has come forth announcing plans to begin a diplomatic campaign to bring the island nation of Jamaica under the USSNSR's sphere of control. Within the press release it has also been stated that the acquisition of Jamaica will be done via a democratic process. When asked why, by numerous news agencies including the SRNN, the USSNSR stated that the attempt to acquire Jamaica will be done for three reasons:

1) To raise the standard of living and prosperity of Jamaica
2) Increased stability within the region
3) To further secure/protect other holdings within the Gulf of Mexico, particularly Cuba.

The press release also stated that 'though these actions may seem to some as expansionistic/imperialistic, these actions are done for the greater good'. It is expected that Premier Estridge will give a speech within the coming days before departing for Jamaica. Now in other news..."

(OOC: I am pretty much laying claim to Jamaica, as you can guess. With this, I am doing this in accordance to the list created by Chellis. According to it, nobody seems to own this island nation. If anyone has a problem with this, even with the fact that NS tends to be multiversed...welp then, come forth.)
Credonia
17-07-2004, 14:08
While Credonia does not plan to get directly involved at this time, the Credonian government is suspicious as to the true intentions behind this act of imperialism. Can you prove that an instability exists in the region? How does this help secure your nations assets in Cuba, Mexico, and elsewhere and can you prove that they are threatened?
Neo-Soviet Russia
17-07-2004, 15:50
The United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia wishes to first correct Credonia. The USSNSR has no holdings within Mexico. That territory belongs to our allies of the Aztec National League.

With that said, to your questions, we direct you to known problems within Jamaica. These being numerous spouts of violence within Jamaica, particularly the capital city of Kingston. Violence sprouting from subjects ranging from political and civil unrest to economic depression to that of the drug trade. Violence in the forms of riots, street fighting, of virtually guerrila warfare. Violence that has gone on for years and has taken the lives of women, children, elderly, and overall the innocent. Violence that still manages to plague Jamaica. Violence that is less than one hundred miles from Cuba.

As before mentioned there is the known drug problem. Jamaica is known to be a spot for the growth of marijuana, which some nations constitute as illegal drugs, there is also the problem of this island nation being a center point on the shipping of harder drugs such as cocaine and heroine. Drugs which, if allowed, could continue on their way and spread throughout the world. Drugs which could also spread the violence already mentioned, along with other problems.

Lastly we'll point to the Jamaican economy. Known to have a turbulent economy as of late, Jamaica hasn't been the best place to find a job as of late. That means, among other things, there tends to be a bit of a high unemployment rate. This is, though stated before, a source of violence within the nation, but not only that. The not so pleasant economy of Jamaica also means that the Jamaican government doesn't have as much funding to run social services like that of education and health care, and with that, is losing the ability to serve the Jamaican people.

With that we ask of Credonia this: How does violence and a known spot for drug trafficking less than one hundred miles south of Cuba not constitue a threat? Add those two with the poor economic conditions and does that not seem to be instability and a source for other negative possiblities within the region to arise?
Credonia
17-07-2004, 16:07
I was not implying that there wasnt a looming threat. I merely asked what the threat was. Although, i still question your intentions. Do you really need to annex unlawfully annex Jamaica just becase it has problems? Why not just help the people and leave. Im pretty sure they would want to have their own independence and remain under their rule and sovreignty than be under the rule of your government, or any government for that matter.

You automatically assume that the people will flock to your side just because you help them, when in fact, they will in the end want their complete and total sovreignty without any outside "influence" as you call it. All you are doing is forcing the people under your rule, whether you hold a so called democratic vote or not. We all know how commuists think. They dont like democracy, and perhaps your intention is to put the small defenseless nation under your "sphere of influence" whether there is a vote or not and despite any result from the vote.
Neo-Soviet Russia
17-07-2004, 18:32
The nation of Credonia asked for proof of instability, of threats. With that, we simply replied to your question with a number of answers, each credible on their own.

To the question of why not simply help the people and leave, we give this answer: From what we've seen, simple from the outside in funding, simple peace keeping and aid doesn't always tend to work. One can give funding and hope the money goes where they wish, one can hand out food and supplies, but overall in the end that still may not be effective, still may not be enough. Simply helping the people and leaving doesn't nessicarily work. There needs to be a factor which guaruntees that the funds are going to the right places, that what is needed to be done is done. That something is done. That the nation assisted has been propped up on its feet and is as stable as possible before left alone. Something must guaruntee that the money and supplies, when given, is totally devoted to what's needed and not instead only a portion, the rest taken and spread among not so honest officials. Something must guaruntee that what needs to be done is done and stays. With this, the USSNSR wishes to, if the Jamaican people wish, annex and help the nation. The people would still serve a part, would still have a place and have power. If the people wish not to come unnder our banner, so be it. We shall still attempt to help them/

You automatically assume that simply because we're communists, though we're more of a socialist nation, we care not about what the people think, about what they want. The idea that communists arn't too fond of what the people think, of what the people wish, and overall the idea of democracy, of having a voice, though the stereotype, isn't always true. Not every nation that flies under a red banner of sorts is a Godless Stalinist state that oppresses its people, that rules with an iron fist, that contains and/or murders numbers of people for any number of reasons (though the containing of people has been done by numerous types of nations/governments, including democracies, facist states, communist/socialist states, dictatorships, so on and so forth).

We also find it sad that Credonia thinks that the USSNSR shall go about this unlawfully, that Credonia believes the USSNSR will take Jamaica by force if the island nation's population wishes not to join the USSNSR. It's disappointing that the nation of Credonia would believe we would go to war for unjust reasons. As it stands, the USSNSR's Armed Forces, though highly trained, has never been used in the agressive/offensive role. With that, for what reason would that trend change?

Onto our automactically assuming that the population will flock to us merely because we shall help them...we don't plan for the entire populace to run to us. In truth, a large portion will probably be skpetical, or so we think. We also know that at some point the Jamaican people will want complete soverignty over their nation, and when that comes there would be a transfer of power. Until that time comes, if it comes, if Jamaica does come under the wing of the USSNSR, the Jamaican people shall, as already stated, still have a say, still have a bit of power over their land. The Jamaican people will still be a part of their land. In truth, if the nation of Jamaica were to come under the banner of the USSNSR, they would be more of a state, holding a number of rights and powers while simply having higher power to help assist them. Our plans are not to simply lay claim to a land and enslave the populace, to come in and oppresse the people, nor at they to feed a few lines, have the populace vote in favor, then turn and show another face. Our plans are to help this nation of its problems.

Overall, as stated before, if the people choose not to come under the wing of the USSNSR, so be it. There will still be a plan to help the nation, details of which are still in the works. We feel though that if Jamaica were under the banner of the USSNSR, even for only a short time, we could assist it and its populace more effectively. We could help stabalize and raise Jamaica more easily.

With this we hope that our reasons havn't been betrayed by possible miswordings and hope that the nation of Credonia, along with any other nations in doubt, has a better understanding. We wish not to come off like an imperialistic nation feeling a hunger to increase its holdings, for that is not our purpose, nor do we wish to come off as the stereotypical ever so unholy Communist nation many seem to fear, prepared to take something by force then oppress the people. If any nations, including Credonia, wish to ask questions, feel free to do so. We shall answer.
Credonia
17-07-2004, 19:26
Very well. BUt if possible, Credonia would like to assist in this endeavoour by deploying 100 peacekeepers as well as food and medical aid to assist in any uprisings there.
Neo-Soviet Russia
18-07-2004, 02:15
Seeing as at the moment Jamaica isn't a member of the USSNSR, we see that it is not our role to allow or deny Credonian peace keepers. If the people of Jamaica agree to come under the USSNSR's banner though we will gladly accept Credonian peacekeepers if they are not already within the nation.

We have also decided, partly due to Credonia's questions and concerns, to proceed with sending supplies and once granted a number of peacekeepers and members of the USSNSR's Engineering/Construction Corps to Jamaica.

Lastly, along with a speech to be held within the next day or two on the subject of Jamaica, Premier Estirdge along with an entourage shall be heading to Jamaica, and specifically the capital, to speak with government officials about aid and possible annexation of Jamaica to further support the island nation. What shall come of the meetings is at this time unknown though we shall keep the international community aware of any and all developments.
Neo-Soviet Russia
18-07-2004, 04:40
(Bump...and I do declare I dislike that if I were to delete a message to merely repost/bump a topic, it shows hat a post was deleted.)
Communist Rule
18-07-2004, 04:41
OOC: I do declare............. I'm attacking Egypt. Whoo!
Neo-Soviet Russia
18-07-2004, 04:46
(OOC:Oh..um...ok...not to sound rude but that has to due with this how [Seeing as we plan to do this with as little violence as need be]?)
Grenval
18-07-2004, 05:24
If you remember, awhile back, Grenval attempted to gain an alliance with NSR, which never became very secure. Grenval feels this is a great time at which to spread the seeds of that alliance by supporting your effort. We commend your use of diplomacy and wish other nations would follow your lead. Thank you for being an example to the international community.
Neo-Soviet Russia
18-07-2004, 11:53
The USSNSR thanks Grenval for it's support.
Communist Louisiana
18-07-2004, 15:34
Credonia, NSR doesnt have to worry about the western part of the Gulf of Mexico and Carribean(sp?). Aztec National League controls all of Mexico and the rest of Central America. I control a large amount of the Gulf also by owning a large amount of the barrier islands at the entrance of the Gulf and Carribean(sp?).

I really do believe under the present situations, Jamaica would be in safe hands with NSR. Consider the trade possibilities Jamaica would have with my nation as well as others in the Gulf and regions in South America.
Hallad
19-07-2004, 01:19
This Imperialism shall be tolerated. However, if conflict with Jamaican and NSR's forces should occur, Hallad will not be hasty to aid the sovereign nation of Jamaica.
Neo-Soviet Russia
22-07-2004, 07:05
Standing behind the typical wooden podium was the head of Neo-Soviet Russia, Adin Estridge. Dressed in a simple dark grey suit, the short haired forty-eight year old former soldier looked to the camera. Dark brown eyes focused on the lense of the camera, then the little light, awaiting its flashing on as he gave a breath.

"Sir!"

"Yes?"

"We'll be ready momentarily."

Nodding, Adin said his thanks. Fingers wrapped around a small cool glass. Raising it to his lips, the man sipped at chilled water before setting it back, out of the view of the camera. Momentarily. That could mean anything from a few seconds to a few minutes.

"Sir, we've less than thirty seconds."

Nodding, the dark speheres which served as Estridge's eyes glanced around. The wind blew lightly, just enough to rustle leaves. Birds tweated and cackled and communiacted to eachother. His attention then went back to the camera, and the task at hand. Adin could ee one man giving a count down. Four. Three. Two. With that the little light below the lense came on.

"Ladies and gentlemen of the international community, I have come to ease fears that the United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia is becoming an imperialistic and possibly oppressive nation. Already we have been questioned by the nation of Credonia on our intent, and already, through these questions, we feel we have explained ourselves. Regardless of this I wish to restate the reasons for which we wish to bring Jamaica into the USSNSR."

Pausing, the Premier looked on. Waiting another second, the man then continued.

"We wish to bring the island nation of Jamaica under the banner of the USSNSR for three reasons. Those being to raise the overall well being and standard of living for the population of Jamaica, to increase stability and security within the region, and to protect and secure USSNSR and other nation's holdings within the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

As we know, Jamaica has been an off and on hotbed when it comes to civil unrest and violence. Reasons stem from the ever so glamerous drug trade known somewhat within this reason, an economy that has seen better times, the government's inability to provide sufficient health care, and political distaste, among other reasons. We plan to combat all of these problems. Some of these issues will be dealt with peacefully while others, mainly the illegal trafficking of cocaine, heroine and other hard drugs, will be dealt with via whatever means nessicary. We state this knowing some nations will possibly frown at this idea. We also state this, hoping that, other nations will listen.

Some question why Jamaica must come under the banner of the USSNSR, become part of it. In truth, it doesn't. We feel though...to work at Jamaica more efficiently, to work at the bettering of the state of Jamaica, it would help for this island nation to be part of the union. Some feel this mere imperialism. To those who think that, so be it. We can not change your thoughts at this moment. These thoughts can only change through the actions which we conduct. Again though, we feel that if we are to help Jamaica, it would be more efficient to ahve Jamaica be a part of the USSNSR.

I know a number of nations fear that if Jamaica becomes part of the United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia that the rights of the people will be down to nil. Nations that know the USSNSR know though that we are not oppressors of the people. We are a socialist nation which tends to grant our populace numerous rights. With that said, if the island nation of Jamaica joins the USSNSR, the Jamaican people's rights are guarunteed. The rights to protest, to speak what they wish, watch and report. Their rights are guarunteed, as is their spot in the Jamaican government. If Jamaica comes under our banner, they will still serve a part, not be a mere puppet. They would be a state, with powers and abilities, with rights and rule. There would mearly be a higher power establishing laws and the sort and uniting lands.

Within the next few hours I, along with a small entourage of diplomats and security will be boarding a plane and be on our way to Jamaica. We will speak with the heads of the Jamaican government, and if things go as we hope, we shall then speak to the Jamaican people. Though now..."

Pausing, he took a moment to look over the crowd.

"...are there any questions?"

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(OOC: Any and all who wish to play reporter for their respected Nation's news agencies do so now.)
Neo-Soviet Russia
22-07-2004, 10:37
(OOC: Blitzkreig Bump!)
San Fierro
22-07-2004, 11:54
Hose Ferrero, San Fierro News, exactly what powers would the Jamaican people have once they are part of the USSNSR? Would they still have any say in their own destiny?

And what is your response to El Presidente Horatio Sanz II's plans to send observers to the area to ensure a fair process?
Neo-Soviet Russia
22-07-2004, 12:57
The Premier's eyes look to Ferreo.

"If things go through the island of Jamaica, as stated, will be something of a state. They'll be able to, overall, write their on constitution/declaration of rights, decide their own laws, raise their own armed forces for defensive purposes. They will be able to establish their own set of taxes, and other powers to come with the traditional idea of a state.

On the issue of will they still have any say on the topic of their own destiny, of course they will. If the nation of Jamaica comes under the banner of the USSNSR, once the transition is complete and things are under way the Jamaican people will be able to vote for represenitives for both the Union Senate and the National Soviet. It is here where they'll be able to voice their thoughts, their concerns, vote on issues and the sort.

As to the topic of El Presidente Sanz II's sending observers...I was unaware of this action. To say that though doesn't mean I look down on this. To the contray I welcome observers. I know there are nations that are questioning what we are about, what we have planned. With observers present it will these nations assurance that we are not going about this in an illegal or immoral way.

Next question?"

The Premier looked over the crowd, hands raising.

"You!"

He said, pointing to another reporter.
San Fierro
22-07-2004, 17:57
Bump
San Fierro
22-07-2004, 19:01
Damn it I don't want to have to bump this again, someone ask whats his face another question
United Elias
22-07-2004, 19:03
Who controls Jamaica at the moment?

Our forces in Panama are on alert, even though they're busy!
San Fierro
22-07-2004, 19:06
OOC: Your meant to be a reporter, but never mind ;)
Neo-Soviet Russia
22-07-2004, 19:29
(OOC: At the moment, UE, according to Chellis's list nobody holds it. With that I'm doing this according to that. That and the fact that NS is a bit of a multiverse anyway. And, with it being 1.29 in the afternoon..I might go to bed.Hmmm.)
Neo-Soviet Russia
23-07-2004, 05:20
(Bump for great justice.)
San Fierro
23-07-2004, 11:28
Gargantuan bump
Hallad
23-07-2004, 15:01
"Ameen Abdul-Alim of the Halladi News Network." One Arabic man says. "Wouldn't it be possible to increase the standard of living and stability in the region without annexing it? Also, why use, what some might say, Imperialism to sucure your holdings? Would it not be easier to enlist the Sovereign nation as an ally?"
Neo-Soviet Russia
23-07-2004, 15:57
"It indeed would be possible to increase the standard of living and whatnot through means other than annexing Jamaica. As stated though...we feel we would be able to help Jamaica more efficiently if it were part of the USSNSR. I believe we would be able to make a bit more of an impact, that we would be able to assure funds and supplies were going where needed. More or less I believe, if Jamaica were to come under the banner of the USSNSR, we would be able to get things done quicker and better."

The Premier knew he would hear that question more, just a matter of time.

"As to the second question, to possible enlistment of Jamaica as an ally...about it being easier...it could be seen as a bit of both. In one sense it would be easier due to holding less responsibility, in that we wouldn't be doing things alone, in that we would have other views and the sort. In another sense though it could have its drawbacks...such as if the ally wished not to assist us, or if they were unable to assist us due to internal affairs/instability or lack of ability."

He paused for a moment.

"Any other questions before I move on, Mr. Abdul-Alim?
Hallad
23-07-2004, 16:07
"Just one. Would NSR ever consider giving soveriegnty back to Jamaica?"
Neo-Soviet Russia
23-07-2004, 16:12
"As stated before, yes, Neo-Soviet Russia would consider returning complete soveriengty to Jamaica."

Looking to Halladi reporter for a moment, confirming that was his last question, he once more looked over the crowd before pointing to another.
San Fierro
23-07-2004, 16:17
OOC: Is this story ever gonna happen or are you gonna spend another day having a press conference? Come on, fly to jamaica already!!!
Neo-Soviet Russia
23-07-2004, 16:34
(OOC: Have patience. Can't do everything in a day...plus this is a way to pull other nations in, for atleast a few moments anyway. And if you've a problem with the pace, you don't have to take part in this. You can merely disappear if you wish.)
San Fierro
23-07-2004, 16:44
OOC: Sorry, summer hoidays are boring, I'm just sitting here clicking refresh every 3 minutes hoping that something's happened
Neo-Soviet Russia
23-07-2004, 19:38
(OOC: That's understandable. Bump...)
San Fierro
24-07-2004, 10:37
bumpety bump
San Fierro
24-07-2004, 16:51
*Shoves the post to the top of the list wih great effort*
Neo-Soviet Russia
03-08-2004, 03:57
(OOC: I apologize for the absence. Things lately have happened that have either kept me busy or pretty much make me feel...bleh. Anyway, I do plan on continuing this.)