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Top Secret: CM is proposing that parties interesting in carving up Africa apply here.

My desires are to get Morocco, Western Sahara, Algeria, and possibly parts of South Africa, Namibia, and Angola.

I am willing to commit up to 4 million soldiers for the campaigns to smash the native armies and such.

The question is, what are we going to concentrate on? Obviously the north is going to be much harder.

The question is, what are we going to concentrate on? Obviously the north is going to be much harder.


Here is a list of the countries I just wish I had, also included their most recent populations according to CIA world factbook.


Western Sahara= 267,405
Morocco= 32,209,101
Algeria= 32,129,324
Tunisia= 9,974,722
Libya= 5,631,585
Egypt= 76,117,421
Sudan= 39,148,162
Ethiopia= 67,851,281
Eritrea= 4,447,307
Somalia= 8,304,601
Djibouti= 466,900

Total Population= 272,547,809

And once again, the conquest of the north will be impeded by these 30 nations. I suggest a southernly invasion. We should have enough troops to commit to keeping a front across Africa.

OCCly: Any attack on Egypt will result in open hostilities between Canan and all parties involved.

And, as that friendly native points out, Egypt is claimed by too many factions.

And, as that friendly native points out, Egypt is claimed by too many factions.


Well we could just say in our universe Africa is unclaimed and basically nobody has any possessions there, and we can find people to RP the native armies. I mean how many people claim to own the same land?

Right now perhaps we could sweep into Western Africa? Sierra Leone, Liberia, Nigeria, Ghana, etc.

I suggest a...two-pronged attack.

You would attack from the west, sweeping north to capture those along the coast up to Egypt.

I would attack from the south sweeping across the central locations but concentrating on the coast until we met at Egypt.

I suggest a...two-pronged attack.

You would attack from the west, sweeping north to capture those along the coast up to Egypt.

I would attack from the south sweeping across the central locations but concentrating on the coast until we met at Egypt.


How about I drop 10 parachute divisions on key locations throughout Egypt. I just got done reading the chapters on Egypt and Iraq in a book called "Arabs At War" Egyptian soldiers are brave, but they stick to their positions even when being surrounded and outflanked, they refuse to maneuver for better position, they rely on firepower alone, they don't do well when their plans break down, they have no tactical skills, they have no imagination, the junior officers show no initiative. Basically all they can do is static defense and fight to the death. They're very brave but very inadequate. Something like 400 Egyptian planes in 1960, and they lost 50 to training accidents. When the 6 day war started in 1967, they lost about 90% of their air force on the ground, one Israeli attack left 3 Su aircraft unharmed on the runway, the soviet advisors told the pilots to rush to the planes to fly south into the depths of Egypt out of range. They had no orders to do so, so all the pilots refused, the Israelis came back with another sortie about 15-20 minutes later, took the planes out.

In the 1973 "October war" the Egyptians ruled for the first 4 days, the canal crossing etc (Well they had been practicing and training for those first 4 days for the last 6 years). They knocked out 200 of 300 Israeli tanks in the main Israeli armored division in the area. Then they got to the point where they'd need to show imagination and initiative because things they didn't plan for were happening. The Egyptians left themselves be flanked in the southern region, the Israelis crossed an entire division of about 15,000 soldiers across the canal, the units that let them get by unnoticed were so embarrassed they reported "1 rifle company on a raiding mission has gotten by us." Rather than the truth. Thus high command sent minimal forces to deal with it, they were smashed, then the entire Egyptian 3rd army was surrounded when the Israelis pushed north to cut off the canal zone on the western side of the canal. The Egyptians couldn't get troops in place quick enough.

The Arabs are good at static defense and fanatical defense, but the way wars are fought today, the side with the best junior officers often wins.


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The main question is how to gain control as quickly as possible and hold it. They are so adept at dug-in fighting that occupation will have great difficulties. I can make the amphibious landing in the Med if you can control the air over mainland as well as control the South. Also, they have numerous amounts of Soviet antiaircraft weaponry. The SA-11 is known to be quite fearsome, as it was drastically underestimated with its IR seeking.

After digging through some Congressional Library reports, I find some relevant information:

Armed Forces (1989): Total personnel on active duty 445,000, including draftees mostly serving for three years. Reserves totaled about 300,000. Component services: army of 320,000 (estimated 180,000 conscripts), navy of 20,000 including 2,000 Coast Guard (10,000 conscripts), and air force of 30,000 (10,000 conscripts). Air Defense Force separate service of 80,000 (50,000 conscripts).

Major Tactical Military Units (1988): Army: four armored divisions, six mechanized infantry divisions, two infantry divisions, four independent infantry brigades, three mechanized brigades, one armored brigade, two air mobile brigades, one paratroop brigade, Republican Guard armored brigade, two heavy mortar brigades, fourteen artillery brigades, two surface-to-surface missile (SSM) regiments, and seven commando groups.

Navy: Twelve submarines, one destroyer (training), five frigates, twenty-five fast-attack craft (missile), eighteen fastattack craft (torpedo), minesweepers, and landing ships.

Air Force: About 440 combat aircraft and 72 armed helicopters; force organized into one bomber squadron, ten fighter-ground attack squadrons, thirteen fighter squadrons, two reconnaissance squadrons, and fifteen helicopter squadrons, plus electronic monitoring, early warning, transport, and training aircraft. Air Defense Force organized into more than 230 battalions of antiaircraft guns and SAMs.

Military Equipment (1989): Tanks and armored personnel vehicles a mix of older Soviet and newer United States models. Other major equipment included Soviet artillery and mortars; Soviet, French, United States, and British antitank rockets and missiles; and mostly Soviet tactical air defense weapons. Egypt planned to coproduce 540 Abrams M1A1 tanks with United States beginning in 1991. Air force fighters included F-16s and F-4s from United States and Mirage 2000s from France, backed by large number of older Soviet designs. Most fighting ships of Soviet or Chinese origin, although fleet included two modern frigates built in Spain and six British missile boats. Air Defense Force had more than 600 Soviet SA-2 and SA-3 SAMs plus 108 improved Hawk SAMs from United States.

The main question is how to gain control as quickly as possible and hold it. They are so adept at dug-in fighting that occupation will have great difficulties. I can make the amphibious landing in the Med if you can control the air over mainland as well as control the South. Also, they have numerous amounts of Soviet antiaircraft weaponry. The SA-11 is known to be quite fearsome, as it was drastically underestimated with its IR seeking.

I can fire 5,000 cruise missiles to take out their SAM sites and such, we can use Mi-24 nap of the earth, or high altitude precision bombers to take out their SAM weapons and early warning radar.

If we can do that, I can drop 10-20 parachute divisions across Egypt to seize key areas.



Occ- For any fan of Arab-Israeli war history, or of Arab military history and reports on battles etc, "Arabs At War" is a must.


Oh I also read that the Egyptians for the most part don't understand how to use night-vision on their tanks, so they just keep it turned off. Iraqis were the same with their T-72s that had it. Also the Egyptians largely don't know how to use their F-16s radar, so they go by "visual sighting".

In the 1960s, despite having about 30-40 million population, Egypt could only get 30 people passed through the Soviet fighter programs. (They'd send thousands but most got washed out).

During some of the Arab-Israeli Wars, the Egyptians lost 20-30 fighters for every 1 the Israelis lost.

No offense, but when it comes to modern weapons, the Arabs are about as able to use radar and night-vision as a caveman would be able to use electricity. Probably a product of modern Arab society that preaches against all the "Evils" of modern technology. Centuries ago Arabia was actually better technology and science wise than Europe, because the Theocracies in Europe hated and feared science. Science is an important tool that needs to be exploited. I don't see why most science can't coexist with religion, if you have to, subordinate science in service of religion. :)


About what you posted, their force numbers. If we're to be accurate, IDF could smash that army with probably 100,000 soldiers and 500 tanks and 100 Fighters.


I'll send probably 100 Divisions against Egypt, supported by 6 carrier groups and probably 3,000 aircraft landbased.

I can fire 5,000 cruise missiles to take out their SAM sites and such, we can use Mi-24 nap of the earth, or high altitude precision bombers to take out their SAM weapons and early warning radar.

If we can do that, I can drop 10-20 parachute divisions across Egypt to seize key areas.



Occ- For any fan of Arab-Israeli war history, or of Arab military history and reports on battles etc, "Arabs At War" is a must.

Your confidence in your cruise missiles is overly so. Firstly, there are the mobile launchers. Secondly, the hidden launchers. I estimate that of the 5000 deployed, 1,750-2,250 will acquire a positive target. I estimate that of those, about 500 will be destroyed. I further estimate that by the time the cruise missile strike is detected, 250 targets will be able to move out of danger.

The Mi-24s will be chewed up by the regiments of anti-air batteries.

I beleive that Egypt now uses M1A1 Abrams

You are correct, as the report I posted told about the coconstruction of 540 Abrams.

Your confidence in your cruise missiles is overly so. Firstly, there are the mobile launchers. Secondly, the hidden launchers. I estimate that of the 5000 deployed, 1,750-2,250 will acquire a positive target. I estimate that of those, about 500 will be destroyed. I further estimate that by the time the cruise missile strike is detected, 250 targets will be able to move out of danger.

The Mi-24s will be chewed up by the regiments of anti-air batteries.


Actually read "Arabs at War" the Egyptians expended on average, something like 10 SAMs and 7 shoulder launched rockets for every aircraft they killed.

The Soviets thought that was probably 3-4 x too many SAMs.

It's probably 50-60 pages in the book about Egypt, maybe I'll scan them onto here and email them to serious readers who are dying to read it.

Allow me to land Parthian forces at the entrance to the red sea so I could cut off Egypt's supply through there, all I ask is a small set of colonies in that area.

Okay. I'm willing to commit about 2 million soldiers, in the initial ground war I expect to lose perhaps 10,000 soldiers, 100 tanks, and 50-200 fixed wing aircraft at the most. I expect probably a long insurgency that will require a COIN (Counter Insurgency) Campaign.

Does that sound about right?

I mean looking at Egypt's military performance in the past, they're not very good for much. Combined arms is a foreign concept to them. They rarely train except for cameras as show.

Regardless of how many missiles they use to fire, the ones that hit are the ones that matter. The Egyptian desert is ideal for Special Operations teams to operate. I suggest using them to take out radar, followed by sending in, for example, F-4 Phantoms with HARMs. (To take out further radar)

Follow the Phantoms would be, for example, F-15E Strike Eagles to eliminate tanks, supported by F-111s for jamming.

Shall we set an invasion hour then?


What say at 8:00 a.m. eastern we launch the massive air attacks, cruise missiles, naval bombardments. AT 9:00 a.m. eastern we launch the parachute units, the commando units etc. At 11:00 a.m. eastern we launch the main attacks with our heavy divisions.

It is currently 12:29 a.m. eastern. Well?


What say you all?

How do I figure in? I could send 2 million men and two CBGs to either invade Dijibouti and cut off egypts supply lines through the red sea or support your invasion of Egypt.

Well I am off to sleep. Lets keep the plans going. We won't move until all parties have voiced their opinion on what we should do. Also, are we going to take Sudan or just Egypt? Because without Sudan, they could dam up the Nile.

I think we should have a contingency plan for taking Sudan by rapid deployment of airborne parachute forces. I think if we find 3-4 nations each willing to drop 10 parachute divisions on the sudan, that they will be sufficient to take it. (Sudan is currently in the middle of a civil war basically)

How do I figure in? I could send 2 million men and two CBGs to either invade Dijibouti and cut off egypts supply lines through the red sea or support your invasion of Egypt.

Why don't you land in Ertitrea and Djibouti.

I suggest inserting Special Operations teams immediately. I have a ready supply of C-130 variants to accomplish the task. They will take neutralize targets of interest in this priority:

1. Permanent SAM sites.

2. Radar sites.

3. Fuel Depots.

4. Supply Depots.

The Air attacks should come at about 0230 Local time. I will neutralize the coastal defenses, you work on the desert. I will drop airborne units 20-30km past the beachhead before landing my troups.


From now on, use Zulu time. THat is to say, Greenwich Mean Time in 0000 hours format.

We still need to consider seizing at least northern Somalia (Currently the breakway region called "Republic of Somaliland" They broke from Somalia a few years ago) We need to cut supply flow all along the sea.

I suggest inserting Special Operations teams immediately. I have a ready supply of C-130 variants to accomplish the task. They will take neutralize targets of interest in this priority:

1. Permanent SAM sites.

2. Radar sites.

3. Fuel Depots.

4. Supply Depots.

The Air attacks should come at about 0230 Local time. I will neutralize the coastal defenses, you work on the desert. I will drop airborne units 20-30km past the beachhead before landing my troups.


From now on, use Zulu time. THat is to say, Greenwich Mean Time in 0000 hours format.

I am placing 18 regiments of the Republican Guard Special Forces Division under your command. (I'll be sleeping and then gone for a while in the morning)

1 Republican Guard Special Forces Division (18,000 Republican Guard Special Operators divided into 18 regiments each of 1,000 operators, each regiment specializes in certain types of combat, terrain, weapons, etc.)

Why don't you land in Ertitrea and Djibouti.

I'll do that, and after that I could send in forces to take Egypt from the south.

Has IDF got in on this? I think Isreal would be a good base for attacking Egypt.

I'll commence with Airstrikes on Dijibouti and Eritrea at 1:30 EST followed by invasion at 2:30 EST.

Our actions in Egypt will consume much of our resources mainly because of the vast distances involved. I suggest we wait until occupation to move on.

I would also suggest that while one of us takes Somalia, the other would take Yemen. (I'd like to take Yemen.)

[OOC - CM, despite my earlier post on another thread, I am not going to get involved.]

Before the attacks begin I want to fly air missions to neutralize the air forces of Egypt, Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Ertirea, and possibly Syria, Lebanon, Ethiopia, Libya, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and maybe a few others.

We certainly need to take out Egypt and Sudan's air forces, and maybe those of nations likely to intervene (The possibly ones)

I want to see their air forces caught largely on the ground. :)

In the 1967 6 Day war, Israel had "Desensitized" Egyptian radar by for the previous 3 years flying basically their entire air force very close to Egyptian air space, this way when they finally decided to launch the attacks, they just dropped below radar level, the egyptians thought nothing of it, well that was until their airfields were blown up. :)

Our actions in Egypt will consume much of our resources mainly because of the vast distances involved. I suggest we wait until occupation to move on.

I would also suggest that while one of us takes Somalia, the other would take Yemen. (I'd like to take Yemen.)

I personally would rather have Yemen, as it was a Sassanian protectoriate at one time, but I will take Eritrea and Somalia instead.

I'll take Somalia.

I'll send in the "Army Group Somalia"


Army Group Somalia 30 Infantry Divisions, 3 Divisions of Mechanized BMP Infantry, 3 Divisions of Warrior Mechanized Infantry, 4 Armored Divisions, 2 Parachute Divisions, 2 Republican Guard Armored Divisions, 1 Republican Guard Cavalry Brigade. 797,000 army forces total.



What is going to Egypt? "Army Group Egypt"


60 Infantry Divisions, 7 Divisions of Mechanized BMP Infantry, 7 Divisions of Mechanized Warrior Infantry, 6 Armored Divisions, 10 Parachute Divisions, 5 Republican Guard Armored Divisions, 2 Republican Guard Cavalry Brigades, 20 Divisions of Reserve Infantry, 5 Divisions of the Popular Army. 2,170,000 army forces total.

My fleet has the capability to maintain support via seaborne AN-225s. My subs will maintain control of the Med for the time being.

I will send my second fleet to just northeast of Obock and gain air superiority.

I'll take Somalia.


Then I'll take Dijibouti,Eritrea, and whatever else no one wants.

My main amphibious assault in Egypt will land at Kafrash Shaykh.

going against RL nations is boring, we need to attack NS nations. That is the idea of RP. Find out who has south AFrica and take him on. I would take Morrocco. Canan does not exist in my universe as he claims Israel and so do I.

I'll do the preliminary work with an invasion of Dijibouti and Eritrea.

Is it possible that I could get Ethiopia?

I am forced to agree with you, however, this move would give me barrels and barrels of precious oil...

I see no problem with you gaining Ethiopia.

timing stinks, I have work. I say we go 8:30 pm eastern time.

We are all on at night and not all during the day.

I think Egypt will be good, I border them, but find out who RPs them and if they are too strong. The problem is the Ottoman Alliance, their 30 nations claim Egypt.

Yemen, Somalia, and any other African nation besides Egypt is good. Especially mineral rich South Africa

We can take Somalia now, same with South Africa. I would invade immediately. Lets start and have fun

I would love to attack South Africa.......

Also, this war here......its too fast and we fail to grasp how large of an area we are actually trying to subdue...


Adding in the factor that we are not fighting against a real force......

I may consider dropping out of this battle.

Besides IDF, who would support me in a war to conquer South Africa?

I'm going to drop 1 parachute division at "Bur Safajah" and 1 at "Al Ghardaqah". I'm also going to launch 3 regular infantry divisions against each of those cities via amphibious assaults.

I plan to drop 5 Parachute Divisions along the Suez canal on the western side, to seal their army in the Sinai so IDF can destroy it.

2 Parachute Divisions will jump into "Cairo" and attempt to seize the city and cause many problems.

1 Parachute Division will jump into "Siwah" to guard against any possible Libyan involvement.

Our main landings will be near "Alexandria", from there we will drive onto "Shubra al Khaymah" we'll also take "Tanta" "Al Jizah" and then we'll help surround Cairo. We're going to hope for a double envelopment of Cairo, combined with our vertical envelopment from the parachute divisions to quickly secure the city.

we get Oman and we control the guld, them or UAE.

Ottoman Alliance will stop an Egyptian invasion. I think we shouldn't take all of Africa, just selected important nations so we can all do it. We must agree on 1 nation and all attack that one, then move on to another

I will support the South African war. I want Cape Town, and a few of the "Cape" provinces. I also want backing in taking whoever has Angola. I'd also like to take Sierra Leone.

IDF, the conflict we are currently talking about is against NPCs...non-player controlled characters...

And, as that friendly native points out, Egypt is claimed by too many factions.
I have troops in Egypt.

Say the word and I'll drop 180,000+ paratroopers into UAE. Or I could just as easily drop them into South Africa.

What I would really like is Zaire (Former Belgian Congo)

I'm dropping out of this war and making a new thread for the planning of the Invasion for South Africa. All those who will support me please join.

that stinks, I don't want an NPC war, I want an RP against PC war

IDF, the conflict we are currently talking about is against NPCs...non-player controlled characters...


Perhaps we need to find people willing to play as those nations using current CIA facts about those nations.

think we can take Egypt, I'll help in it

If you wish, I could RP the NPCs for you.

we get Oman and we control the guld, them or UAE.


I would invade the UAE and Qatar, IDF gets Oman and Egypt, CM gets Iraq and Kuwait, CR gets Yemen and Sudan. We could divide up the rest of Africa and Divide up Saudi Arabia amongst ourselves later.

If you wish, I could RP the NPCs for you.
that would make it worthwhile

I have troops in Egypt.
Disregard this.

Could I get Nigeria?

I think we should limit it to Egypt (to get Suez) and go against the NS nations. Who's with me, Whittier can help alot here

Let's just take it slowly and attack Egypt very deliberately, thoroughly, and descriptively.

Whittier will not object, if we get Mozambique, Malawi, Botswana, and zimbabwe.

So, if you all accept this, what nation(s) would you like for me to RP for you? And do I get to RP post-invasion insurgents (for a limited time at least)?

Will we do it against NS Egypt. I have been wanting to take the land.

I want Sierra Leone, Somalia, Kuwait, Iraq, Angola, Zaire, and parts of South Africa and Egypt.

I think we should attack Egypt only for now. We will be rich with the Suez and control of much of Europe's oil supply

Let's just take it slowly and attack Egypt very deliberately, thoroughly, and descriptively.


Good idea but who gets what in Africa?

I would not advise NS Egypt; too many hold that land. Egyptstan, Brothership of Nod, and others.

I'll take Nigeria, Eritrea, Kenya, Dijibouti, Ethiopia, Qatar and the UAE.

Africa will be posteponed until later. Egypt 1st, Whittier can get some of it if he helps. He deserves alot for all the times he's helped us

Can we start inserting special operations teams into Egypt?

Africa will be posteponed until later. Egypt 1st, Whittier can get some of it if he helps. He deserves alot for all the times he's helped us

Cool, whos involved so we know how to divide Egypt?

make it so, I will use full blown divisions once you sabotage them. Start the RP thread please.

SLOW DOWN.


We're moving WAY too fast for what we have going. We need to plan for all the new-coming aid, we need to let our opposition plan, etc!

I'll take Nigeria, Eritrea, Kenya, Dijibouti, Ethiopia, Qatar and the UAE.
Qatar and UAE aren't in AFrica.

Okay, let's do that, we can slow down a bit I guess.

We're all involved and you can be too Parthians, I border them since I'm Israel. Whittier's bases will help too

A bit? We need to just STOP and decide who is going to do what.

Qatar and UAE aren't in AFrica.


I know but I want parts of the middle East too.

Okay, slowing down now... Who is going to act as Egypt? Whittier?

I think it is time for special forces, that happens long before the war, it is time for sabotaging infrastructure

Ok, Here's a plan-

In 30 minutes we should begin airstikes on Egypt, followed by Spec Ops drops and artillery bombardment of the Sanai. CM will invade near Alexandria. IDF will push across the Sanai and CR will invade along the Nile Delta. Parthian forces will invade via the Red Sea.

I'm tired of this...fucking...point and click wars. We need to state where our troops are going, how, why, what, and how they will be refueled, what is the tactical purpose, etc.

Who does what? I'll provide the bulk of the troops for the occupation force once the ground war is over. I'll also provide the bulk of the armor for the actual ground war. I can provide 10 Armored Divisions and 6 Republican Guard Armored Divisions.



Republican Guard Armored Division (Each 18,000 Republican Guard Panzer Grenadiers, 500 T-98 Tanks, 2,250 BMP-3s, 300 G-6 155mm SPA, 200 SA-19 Mobile SAM, and assorted reconnaissance vehicles)


Regular Army Armored Division (Each 18,000 Panzer Grenadiers, 500 T-98 Tanks, 2,250 BMP-3s, 300 G-6 155mm SPA, 200 SA-19 Mobile SAM, and assorted reconnaissance vehicles)

Ok, Here's a plan-

In 30 minutes we should begin airstikes on Egypt, followed by Spec Ops drops and artillery bombardment of the Sanai. CM will invade near Alexandria. IDF will push across the Sanai and CR will invade along the Nile Delta. Parthian forces will invade via the Red Sea.
not yet, invade tommorow night at 8:30 eastern. Start special ops now.

Ok, Here's a plan-

In 30 minutes we should begin airstikes on Egypt, followed by Spec Ops drops and artillery bombardment of the Sanai. CM will invade near Alexandria. IDF will push across the Sanai and CR will invade along the Nile Delta. Parthian forces will invade via the Red Sea.

I'm willing to use 10 Parachute Divisions to help trap the Egyptian Army in the Sinai. I'll be the anvil, IDF the sledgehammer.

Mississippi, when the time comes, isolate Sinai into its own war. Parthanian (SP) and I will take Egypt as a whole.

IDF borders them and can do tons to provide logistics (our main purpose there) Our mission is to completely take Egypt. Whittier holds bases where we can fly in supplies. I can easily ship stuff to the southern and northern part of Egypt. I can also truck stuff across the border. I say we invade amphibious assaults to the southern and northern parts of Suez. I invade from the East and people paratroop the middle of it to take the sinai peninsula and Suez canal. We can naval blockade them easily.

All of this is in a different plane of reality right? I just wanted to make sure so that I can know wether I should get involved or not.

All nations should use IDF as your air base. carriers would be good, my whole navy is in the region and in striking distance. Use TLAMs to crush defenses and just make this total war

Start the RP thread but NO ONE attacks until 1700Z (5:00PM Zulu). Only maneuver your troops and begin special forces raids.

All of this is in a different plane of reality right? I just wanted to make sure so that I can know wether I should get involved or not.
not concerning you Canan, another egypt Rper will be concerned

I can't attack until 7:30pm eastern

That's fine. The more time the better. That's about 1700Z anyways.

All of this is in a different plane of reality right? I just wanted to make sure so that I can know wether I should get involved or not.
I was told they were just doing it for fun.

Parthian forces deployable for Africa-

1st Immortals- 25,000 Infantry mounted in M2-A3 Bradley IFVs
3rd Immortals- 25,000 Infantry mounted in M2-A3 Bradley IFVs
5th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs
11th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs
17th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs
29th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry Mounted in M-113 APCs
34th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs
37th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs
49th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry Mounted in M-113 APCs
55th Infantry- 20,000 Infantry mounted in M-113 APCs

1st Cavalry- 1000 M1-A2 Abrams MBTs, 5 Patriot Batteries, 30 MLRS, 30 M-109 Artillery
5th Cavalry- 1000 M1-A2 Abrams MBTs, 5 Patriot Batteries, 30 MLRS, 30 M-109 Artillery
7th Armored- 1500 M1-A2 Abrams MBTs, 5 Patriot Batteries, 100 MLRS, 100 M-109s
10th Armored- 1500 M1-A2 Abrams MBTs, 5 Patriot Batteries, 100 MLRS, 100 M-109s
11th Armored- 1500 M1-A2 Abrams MBTs, 5 Patriot Batteries, 100 MLRS, 100 M-109s

45th Seige- 300 M-109s, 300 MLRS, 10 250mm Artillery, 5 300mm artillery.

start inserting special forces to destroy infrastructure

start inserting special forces to destroy infrastructure
I'll insert 35 Special Ops teams as soon as I get the chance.

should I start the RP thread?

The RG Special Forces Division will insert into Egypt. 18 regiments each 1,000 strong. They're going after command and control, bridges, radar, sams, depots, etc.

Hmm, Hattia will be forced to oppose this blatant imperialism...

Hmm, Hattia will be forced to oppose this blatant imperialism...


Excuse me but this imperialism is called Scramble for Africa II (if the allies like that name I could call this little campagin that)