War with Sarzonia. [Archive]

Granzi

14-07-2004, 19:43

Granzi City, Granzi

Jonathon Stet, was working late as usual. As the nightime supervisor at the National Institute of Spacial Observation (NISO), he was often gauging the reports coming in at odd hours. The darken room was lit up by the glowing screens of banks of consoles, arranged in rows within small cubicles. The wall forward of him was a gigantic plasma monitor, enclosed completely by several smaller ones. He was startled out of a doze when a shrill beep sounded from the nighttime watch station. After wheeling up a chair, he opened the incoming transmission.

A screen popped open at once, and the contents shocked Stet. Like a movie, the same scene played over and over again. The opening shot showed the unmistakable plume of a rising warhead, quickly followed by several more. A side screen identified the area of launch as a missile facility/base deep with Cam III. Within seconds, the footage was forwarded to the Minister of Defense.

When Defense Minister Vera was roused and shown the launch, his eyes grew wide, "Good Lord, this could be catastrophic. Summon a meeting of the Council immediately. Prime Minister Bolash was quickly hustled out of bed and into the meet chamber within the Ministry. "Gentlemen, I trust that this is an important affair."

"Take a look for yourself." Vera switched on the tape.

All eyes focused on the playing footage, and second bt second, their disbelief grew. When it ended, Foreign Minister Sun spoke up. "Why would Cam II sabotage the peace process like this? When we were so close to a settlement as well..." His voice trails off.

General Radolf snorted, "Why else? They obviously have a grudge against the Sarzonians. The big question is, what are we going to do?"

The Prime Minister spoke, "The only thing we can do. We have tried to stay out of this conflict, and even hosted peace talks to avoid the prospect of war. But our efforts are to no avail, and war has started, that no one can deny. But we have an pledge with Sarzonia, as an ally, to help them in their time of need. Granzi will honor this pledge."

The rest of the group nodded.

By the time the meeting ended, an order had already been sent out. The Kamor-IBBEM Kinetic Anti-Missile Satellites in orbit above Earth rotated their weapons, and launched a flight of anti-IBCM missiles nearing Sarzonia.

An open transmission was sent to Cam III:

The Commonwealth asks that you desist immediately from this path of violence and war. For your own sake, please come back to the negotiation table, to settle our differences peacefully. Otherwise, we will be forces to defend our ally. War is not the solution.

Regards,
Prime Mister Bolash

Grenval

14-07-2004, 19:56

Underground Command Center; Blair, Grenval

"Nukes, as in more than one, in the air"
"Headed for us?"
"No, but still, get the President."
A woman's vioce answered the phone, a secure connection. "Hello, Presidential Palace, Grenval City, Grenval."
"Code 046Y2"
The woman gasped. "Yes sir, immediately."

Presidential Bunker; Location: Classified

"Get Whittier now! Pandora's Box. See if he'll get messy!"

Ghargonia

14-07-2004, 19:59

Given the number of nuclear weapons you humans launch at each other in this neck of the woods, it's a wonder that any of this planet is still habitable. Have you ever considered murdering each other with conventional weapons, so that there's something left to conquer afterwards? Ghargonia is getting rather annoyed with having to rack up the 0micronis energy barrier every time you lot engage in battle because of your nuclear obsession.

Grenval

14-07-2004, 20:04

Presidential Bunker; Location: Classified

The President stood up, "Nevermind, don't contact Whittier, just stay out of it," he told the messenger.

Sarzonia

14-07-2004, 21:34

[OOC: I had a long one written but it was wiped out. Argh!]

Deep in the underground bunker where President Mike Sarzo and the rest of the government was hiding with the onset of the war against CorpSac, an assistant breathlessly ran up to Sarzo.

"Sir! Cam III just launched nuclear weapons! They're demanding we surrender!"

"Those bastards!" Sarzo snarled. "'Surrender' is not in our vocabulary.

"Terry, get our missile defense systems ready to fire," Sarzo yelled.

"Already on it," Wilson yelled back. He was already on the phone. Sarzo smiled faintly. That was one good thing about Wilson. He was thinking clearly and more quickly than even Sarzo did.

Wilson contacted the missile defense systems and with all of them on alert in the event of a CorpSac attack, they were more than ready to fire. They did.

"Looks like someone else shot down a couple of the missiles," Wilson said as he walked back to Sarzo.

"Who?"

"We just got word that Granzi fired on the ICBMs themselves."

"Looks like Granzi's on our side fellas," Sarzo said. He picked up his walkie talkie.

"Bill, what's the status of the spaceships?"

"We've got two of the Oberlin-class ships ready begin tests," Air Force Chief Bill Lighton replied. Space Force Chief Tag McGuire was still in the middle of meetings with the Metallinauts and didn't have a walkie talkie with him.

"We don't have time for tests, Bill. Launch them now!"

"Sir! We have no idea if they're even going to work!"

"Now's going to have to be the time to find out. Load 'em up with weapons and go after that orbital missile platform."

"Aye sir," Lighton said with doubt creeping into his voice.

The Oberlin and the Pegasus roared from their positions into the air and hurtled toward the heavens. They activated their energy shielding systems.

Wilson also turned on his walkie talkie and contacted his deputy in Portland.

"Target orbital missile platform with the laser defense system and fire!"

The laser defense system, already calibrated for defense against space-based platforms and already successful in destroying a CorpSacian platform, fired at the orbital platform.

Sarzo then called Navy Chief John Newman.

"John, Cam III is back attacking again. We need to retaliate against one of their attacks."

"Got it," Newman said. "Fire some ICBMs and send some SSBNs to launch some SLBMs.

Meanwhile, Wilson walked to the control panel where he controlled the satellites carrying tungsten rods. He pushed the button targeting the Cam III platform and fired five tungsten rods at it.

Isselmere

14-07-2004, 22:08

Cam III, wherefor thou art, whence thou shalt go lest in my fury I shall reduce thy miserable forces to cinders.

As always, the Defence Forces of Isselmere-Nieland are ready to protect their firm allies in Sarzonia. The RINSN is once more headed towards Cam III's space station and vessels are being prepared to intercept any Cam III vessels intending to resupply this act of aggression. Furthermore, any and all of Cam III's satellites, both manned and unmanned, currently in Earth orbit will be destroyed. The use of low-yield nuclear devices (X-ray detonation laser weapons [similar to those developed for the US's "Star Wars" program]) has been cleared. Any of Cam III's aerial, terrestrial or maritime forces moving towards Sarzonia will be considered legitimate targets. Strategic Defence Forces are on high alert.

His Majesty's Government will brook no further hostilities by this warmongerer.

The Rt. Hon. Prime Minister Oliver Yardmouth, MP, CS, RC

Morathania

14-07-2004, 22:25

OOC: Whats going on here?

IC: "Cam III just launched a nuclear attack against Sarzonia Mr. President," said Colin Wixted's top aid Daniel Evermoore.
"Holy shit. When did this happen?"
"Not to long ago, sir."
"What are we going to do. Both are allies. I have a comittment to both. Send in Minister Philips."
"Yes sir."
Minister George Philips was the Foreign Affairs Minister. A tall lanky man younger than his years would suggest. His face looked deep, sucken and ancient today. He had obviously heard of whats going on.
"What can we do George? Sarzonia's been a long time ally. But Cam III is in the Victoria Alliance. What the hell going on?"
"We have almost no clue. Our communications have been in black out for a while but from what we know its a small nuclear confrontation. Don't know anything more."
"Ok, you get on the horn with whoevers running Cam III today and I'll call up Sarzo."
"Right away Mr. President I'll get as much info as possible."
"Thanks George."
With that George was out of the room running with all his might toward the Foreign Affairs office.
"Mrs. Stephenson please get President Sarzo on the line."
"I'll try sir. Telecomunications might be down form the nukes, sir."
"Well just try."
The phone began to ring. A man picked it up.
"President Sarzo please."
"Thank you very much."
"Oh this is President Wixted of Morathania."
"Thank you."
"Mike, what the hells going on here. I need information quickly. I need to make a call. I need to see what to do."
He patiently waited for Sarzo's response.

Sarzonia

15-07-2004, 00:12

OOC: Whats going on here?

[OOC: I wish I knew. When the forums went down, Cam III and Sarzonia had just landed in Granzi City to begin peace negotiations. Since then, he applied for admission to ESUS. I just joined since I'm beginning life as both modern tech and future tech. When he applied, I objected to his admission. That's what started this mess.]

IC: "Hello Colin, good to hear from you," Sarzo began. He looked around and found a small enclave for some privacy.

"Here's the situation," Sarzo said. "Let me begin from the very beginning. Cam III originally declared war on Nellisland for 'insulting' him. I was in Nellisland at the time at their request to help them install a democracy. As a result, I had a vested interest to ensure that Nellisland remain safe. Therefore, I warned him to stand down. He ignored my warnings and then declared war on Sarzonia and launched an attack. The Gray House was destroyed and Parliament Hall was damaged.

"Since then, he has decided to ignore an attempt at negotiating a peace accord and has demanded Sarzonia surrender. He also claimed that I started the war [OOC: Which is total bulls*it since he ignored my attack IC/] when he started by firing at Nellisland while we were in the vicinity.

"It is very clear to us that Cam III does not wish peace. In fact, they wish to wipe Sarzonia off the face of the Earth," Sarzo said with his voice betraying a twinge of urgency.

Austar Union

15-07-2004, 02:04

In passing, the President was told of the war on Sarzonia. Although rushed, he gave a quick response,

"As the Sarzonians have been friends with the Republic since almost their independance, we will retaliate against the fools in Cam III. They have stepped this up to a rediculous level, and if need be we will put down the dog of war. An official response will be coming soon."

Granzi

15-07-2004, 02:23

*Opening music sounds*

"This is Commonwealth News Network, your place for the insider news on Granzi. This is your host, Andrea Beck."

A woman looks up from the announcer desk and smiles. "Good afternoon ladies and gentlement, this is your evening report on July 14th, 2004. In top international stories tonight, the Granzian armed forces are reported to be mobilizing. Following an attempted nuclear attack on Sarzonia by Cam III, Prime Minister Bolash has declared unilateral support for our ally. In the early hours of today's morning, he ordered several anti-ICBM satellites in orbit to target the strike. There has been no word as of yet of a possible Cam II retaliation, or any response at all."

"Now, our sources tell us that in preparation for possible hostilities, the Granzian 1st, 3rd, and 4th Battlefleets have recalled all crew members are shore leave. Sightings of the navy's new Commonwealth Class Battleships have occured near Hybalt Shipyards, and analysts say this might bacome the first combat of a highly anticipated ship. At local airforce and army bases, witnesses report increased activity, with much traffic flowing between military destinations. For now, the government has kept quiet of possible troop deployments, only releasing a short statement:"

Our forces will not be the agressors in this campaign. We are giving the government of Cam III an opportunity to stand down and prevent this incoming crisis. However, we are honor bound to protect our allies in Sarzonia, and will go to their aid if the need arises. But we will state that our soldiers will not fire the first shot.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Popular opinion at this time seem almost equally divided over a possible war with Cam III. In a recent July 12th poll conducted by Allied Media, 41% of the people polled said they supported possible action, 38% said they didn't, and 21% were not sure or undecided."

"In other international headlines, the minister of..."

The Zoogie People

15-07-2004, 02:58

West Scotland Capitol

"Ok, what's news?"

President Forrester sat down for his daily, almost monotonously similar intelligence briefing. A small war here, escalating tensions there...none of these were usually matters of interest for West Scotland. So naturally, he thought it a bit strange that his intelligence officer was white and shaking. Just a bit.

"I'll make it short, sir. Soviet Malatose is undergoing army re-organisation...Whittier's elections are today..."

Oh god, no news today then, huh? thought the President to himself. We're already on national elections.

"...Pantera's Lord Reaver has died..."

"What?!"

"...Automagfreek is doing something dreadful, we're not sure what yet..."

"Well, that's news, for sure...Pantera...go on." He noticed that the officer was now hyperventilating. "Are you having a nervous breakdown? We can pass the briefing for a few hours..."

"No, this is important," insisted the officer. "Tomzilla is holding elections...Haiwaiian Islands is invading Grenval..."

"Hold on," said the president abruptly. "Hawaiian Islands is doing wha-"

However, the officer took no notice of him - this was unprecedented. Something was seriously up. "...and Sarzonia is under attack," the officer concluded at last.

"Busy world," noted the president, then did a double-take. "Sarzonia?"

"You're not going to like this, sir. Not too long ago...Cam III has taken it upon themselves to launch five nuclear missiles at Sarzonia; we have intelligence that Sarzonian and Granzi defense systems took down most or all of them, we're not sure which. In any case, there's a state of war as peace talks have broken down."

"Tell me everything..."

-

Two hours later

On a crisp TV screen, President Forrester is giving a national address live after holding an emergency vote and plan of action with the Parliament, resulting in a near unanimous decision that both pushed for diplomacy but did not emphasize it too much (considering it's already failed), and called for the immediate protection of Sarzonia.

This particular TV screen happens to be onboard one of the seven aircraft carriers that have been dispatched in a massive mobilisation effort that also involves significant air force units and 250,000 ground troops. Intelligence and special operations have begun focusing on the situation, as well as constant surveillance and missile defense.

CALCM-loaded cruise missile platforms are standing by as well,ready on a moment's notice.

"...and as part of the provisions of the Defense of Sarzonia Act, the activation of several nuclear missile silos, in the worst case scenario of the unimaginable," concluded the president. "...we assure you that West Scotland will fire only in the direst of circumstances that leave absolutely no alternative."

He walked off the podium and motioned for one of his advisers. "Get me online with President Sarzo..."

Two minutes later

"Ah, President Sarzo...I'll be brief...tell me a bit about the situation and of what use our forces would be..."

Note: an ultimatum has also been issued to Cam III. If you don't stand down...well, let's just say you should.

Sarzonia

15-07-2004, 03:17

"Ah, President Sarzo...I'll be brief...tell me a bit about the situation and of what use our forces would be..."

[OOC: To save time re-typing everything, the information I posted in my response to Morathania is my IC response here as far as the information is concerned.]

Sarzo reacted with relief. Several countries started coming to the country's aid in the midst of the attack by Cam III. He gratefully fielded the call from President Forrester.

"Thank you for contacting us," Sarzo said. "Cam III has shown no interest in a peaceful settlement of our differences and seems to me to be hell bent on our destruction," he said. "They have an orbital platform that can fire multiple warheads and they have a platform that serves as their homeland [OOC: From the description given by Cam III in the War on Nellisland thread, that's the best way I can describe it] in the sea that also launches missiles. According to our intelligence reports, the majority of their naval forces are Trimarian warships.

"Whatever assistance you see fit to provide will be gratefully accepted. On behalf of the people of Sarzonia, I thank you from the bottom of my heart."

Sarzo exhaled slightly. Now wasn't the time to breathe more easily, but at least the situation didn't look as bleak as it once did.

Nellisland

15-07-2004, 05:41

(OOC: I thought this whole thing was over already! Also I am not getting involved! Not because I am turing my back on Sarzonia, but because I don't think I could help because I have to rebuild my nation so...

Ohhh...and Sarzonia...check my nation screen! :)

Soviet leaders

15-07-2004, 07:00

0:01
Sectary:Commander sir nuclear missiles were lunched.
Commander: WHAT?
Sectary: A nation has been attack By Cam III
Commander: What nation?
Sectary: It was Sarzonia
Commander: They were in peace talks.
Sectary:Yes.
0:30
Comander: I'll calll the permier.
Permiers Sectary: Yes This is the goverment building.
Commander: this is the commander of military forces.
P. Sectary: I'll put you to The permiers room.
Commander:Permier A country has been nuck
Permier: So we all have problems.
Commander:NO A COUNTRY that was in peace talks!!
Permier:No tall me it was not the CamIII and Sarzonia.
Commander:Yes
Permier: do what you think is nessasary.
Commander: For SOVIET POWER
Military Action Sectary:We ask that there are no more nuclear missiles luched form ether side or we help one side.
Commander: which side got threaten first
MAS: Sarzonia
Commander:stay on no side but just in cases they attack us.
MAS: I'll get the military units on alert
Commander: No give them a chance to come to a peaceful resalution
MAS: Why.
Commander: I'll let the premier give the order to atack or not.
MAS: YES Sir!!!
Commander: but keep are missiles defenes online.
MAS:YES SIR!!!!!
Commander:I am releaving the watch to you.
2:01

___________________END TRANSMISSION____________________________

Magdha

15-07-2004, 07:14

The new Maharajah reclined upon the Peacock throne, in front of him was his Chancellor telling him news as it came through the teletype.

HI invaded our allies in Grenval and our troops are en route.....Socialist takeovers in Hogsweat....Kanabia screaming for another communist crusade....Wait, heres one- Cam III has launched a nuclear attack on Sarzonia!!! What should we do?

The Maharajah closed his eyes and then spoke, "Mobilize our anti-ICBM systems, if the idiots at Cam III fire again at sarzonia or at us attack the missiles. If they fire at us with nuclear weapons use anything, even Kali."

The Chancellor shuddered as he gave the order to prepare Kali virus filled SLBMs if it proves necessary to use it.

Austar Union

15-07-2004, 12:10

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Official Response from the Republic of Austar Union
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It is my position, that as an ally to Sarzonia, that we are firmly against the very existance of the government of Cam III. They attacked without due cause, especially in the non-conventional variety.

However, we will not commit military forces as retaliation to the infidels in Cam III, as we believe that the current participants of the conflict are more than capable of handling the situation. At the same time, whilst saying this, we will remain ready to provide the Sarzonians military or economic assistance should they call on us specifically.

We would like to bid the Sarzonians and their allies goodwill, and may god bless them in the upcoming expected conflict with Cam III. To the infidels in Cam III, may the armies crush your soul.

President James Madison
The Republic of Austar Union

Dimmimar

15-07-2004, 12:15

Ah, Cam III. Although we are a fervent supporter of your nation, other matters call us at this moment in time.

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Holy panooly

15-07-2004, 12:22

We would support Cam III, but we're too busy right now.

The Island of Rose

15-07-2004, 12:29

OOC: Oy vey... two days I.I. is up again and there's nuclear war...

Praetonia

15-07-2004, 12:39

We are allied to both nations, and so would very much like to see a diplomatic solution. If you wish, we will host peace talks.

However, having reviewed the situation we are leaning towards Sarzonia. One more nuclear attack from Cam and we will declare our support for Sarzonia. I am trusting Sarzonia not to initiate (note initiate) any nuclear exchanges.

Sarzonia

15-07-2004, 15:26

Soviet leaders

15-07-2004, 16:15

This is the Premier Romakov please solve this peacefuly mabe if the nation besides the two CamIII and Sarzonia would just let them fight and maybe we might have a takeover or a this is so stupid that maybe we could of had a peaceful way of solving it.
We are not attacking.
P.sectary: I'll tell the Commander
Permier: Yes

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Cam III

15-07-2004, 19:06

OOC: Ok, so how many people am I fighting?

IC: Well, it seems everyone wants us to stand down. I think we will not, get the fleet ready and destroy the tiny Sarzonian fleet. Oh, and they have not surrendered, I think some more 'presants' are in order. Fire some ICBMs (NOTE: NOT nuclear.)

Yes sir

To: Sarzonia
From: Cam III
You have not surrendered within the allocated time limit, so I will be forced to take further action, You were warned...

Sarzonia

15-07-2004, 19:39

[OOC: Cam III, you just don't get it, do you? First of all, I don't have a "tiny" fleet. My navy has over 1,000 ships in it. In addition, you've got Isselmere-Nieland's and Zoogie's navies coming after you. Secondly, by my count, you're fighting five countries already, and that's just the countries that have said they'll fight right off the bat (I'm not counting the countries that have said they'll jump in if you do something stupid). I strongly suggest you look at the populations of ALL the countries who have said they'll support me.

And another thing, I've already responded to your first attack. Post your losses.]

Sarzo noticed the launch of the ICBMs and Vice President Wilson ordered the missile defense systems to fire on them.

"It seems that Cam III won't listen to reason," Sarzo said with exasperation.
"If they are that hell-bent on fighting us when we already have solid committments from Granzi, Isselmere, Austar Union, Zoogiedom and Magdha, then they will pay a very steep price."

Navy Chief John Newman ordered the Fifth and Sixth fleets to set sail to intercept Cam III's fleets. The Fourth Fleet under Commodore Brenda Davis, with the exception of a small squadron under Captain Bryan Tucker, set sail from the waters around Praetonia also on an intercept course against the Cam III fleet.

To: Cam III
From: Sarzonia

It appears you weren't listening. We will not surrender. If you don't stand down immediately, we will be forced to take all necessary measures to ensure that you do not threaten us again. We offered you a fairly generous cease fire accord; it's a shame you didn't take us up on our offer. The next time, when we discuss your surrender terms, they won't be nearly as generous.

"Contact President Madison of the Austar Union," Sarzo said.

"Mr. President, this is Mike Sarzo, President of Sarzonia. I think we'll need your help to teach that punk Cam III a lesson. We need to prevent him from ever being a threat again. Just getting him off our backs is clearly not going to be good enough."

"What's the status of our nuclear arsenal," Sarzo asked Wilson.

"We've got it poised to glass CorpSac if he tries anything."

"Divert some of that for Cam III in the event he launches another nuclear attack against us. Be prepared to use it, but ONLY as a last resort and ONLY if he launches nuclear weapons against us."

"Yes, sir."

"While you're at it, Terry, target that orbital platform with some of the tungsten rods on our satellites and see if we can destroy it. See if you can get more laser defense system guns ready to fire on that orbital platform as well."

"We're on it now," Wilson said.

Soviet leaders

15-07-2004, 22:40

13:09
Sectary: Sir the war has started
Commander:NO
Sectary: I can't beleve it ether
Commander:I'll call the Permier
Permier:Yes Commander What is it
Commander:The war has started.
Permier:Get all the generals.
Commander:This is Commander Ridvok the Permier has command a emergency meeting.
13:50
Meeting Room
Permier:The war has started
General Alexzander: who started it.
Commander: Cam III using a nuclear
General Alexzander: I think that we should enter the war.
Permier: You can leave now General.
Commander: what are we going to do?
Permier: Go to war!!!!
Commander: For Soviet Power
MAS: TO CAMIII
1,000,000 troops
Fleet 1&2
1 million Aircraft

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 00:14

Permier: Go to war!!!!
Commander: For Soviet Power
MAS: TO CAMIII
1,000,000 troops
Fleet 1&2
1 million Aircraft

[OOC: I just want to make sure I know which side you're on... and just FYI, that 1 million aircraft sounds like it could be a godmod.]

The Zoogie People

16-07-2004, 00:28

West Scotland Capitol

Oops. My alternative roleplaying nation was supposed to post that. But oh well...just try to remember it's West Scotland and not Zoogie People :P

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Isselmere-Nieland's and Zoogie's navies coming after you.

West Scotland's, which is not only larger than Zoogie's, but Doujin-built :P Sorry for the mixup. And Cam III, Isselmere is one of the most respected shipbuilders as well...

-

NOTE: NOT nuclear.

But Cam III, it's an ICBM all the same. We can't tell if it's nuclear or conventional when you fire it, and if you attatch a shiny red flag saying 'Conventional,' I doubt any nation would take your word. You might be looking at nuclear retaliation (not from us, though...it's against our policy)

Sarzonia, I think Soviet Leaders is on your side...
-

"More ICBMs?" asked the President bleakly. "Alert all other allied nations involved - oh, even Magdha. We can't afford a single direct hit...activate everything."

West Scotland's ABM systems swung into full gear and began firing on the ICBM through every means imaginable to take them down.

Meanwhile, on the flagship carrier of the main fleet, the chief admiral received the Defense Administration's next set of commands. He quickly notified the entire battle group.

"Change of plans. Intercept Cam III's invasion force."

A small vanguard detachment continued en route to Sarzonia as an escort of the ground forces being deployed by sea (the others having been deployed through the air), while the main fleet, flanked by two smaller groups, altered its course to hit Cam III's fleet before, during, or after Sarzonia's planned interception.

Fleet stats and numbers will be posted up later, or on request...

OOC: Oy vey... two days I.I. is up again and there's nuclear war...

*Points at Cam III* hint, hint ;)

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 00:50

Sarzonia, I think Soviet Leaders is on your side...

[OOC: Okay, thanks for the clarifications. It did seem a little confusing seeing "West Scotland" coming from Zoogie, but it's all good. :)

I figured I was reading Soviet Leaders right, but I just wanted to make sure.

And, the majority of my navy is Isselmere-built, so there'll be Doujin-built ships and Isselmere-built ships aplenty. Not to mention my tungsten rods firing at the Trimarian-hulled ships in Cam III's fleet.]

Granzi

16-07-2004, 01:38

Granzian Isles

Out of Capital Naval Base slipped the 1st Battlefeet. It was the near noon, and the sailors had spent the morning say last farewells and bringing abroad any last "comfort materials." The lead vessel GMS Commonwealth, of which High Admiral Howard was aboard, knifed through the clear waters as the formation sailed toward the bay entrance. Over the last few years, a major renovation of the navy had been undergone, with the result that a portion of the fleets had been retired and replaced with domestic trimaran vessels. And I'm aboard the fruits of that effort, thought Howard. The ships slowly slipped out to sea.

At the same moment, the 3rd and 4th Battlefleets had sailed from other moorings around the Granzian Isles. Commanded by Admirals Grashal and Champlain, respectively, they were to meet Howard at a point 200 miles northwest of Granzi. After which, the entire force was to sail to Sarzonian waters.

The Navigation Officer spoke up. "Admiral, we are 36 miles from Point A1."

"Very good, Gregson. Keep the fleet at a steady 28 knots." Howard slipped back into thoughts of strategy.

"Sir!" His revere was interrupted by an orderly rushing up. "We have recieved intelligence reports that Cam III has sent a naval force toward Sarzonia. Satellite imagery also shows Zoogie and Sarzonian fleets moving to intercept. Central Command (CC) has made a change of orders, we are to instead meet with our allies and preform a combined assault. And reinforcements, the 5th Battlefleet, has departed from Granzi."

"Very well. Send a transmission to the other Battlefleets, once we meet, sail toward Cam III. Also, send another one to our allies announcing our intentions." he replied.

He looked out from the bridge. The sea was calm and peaceful. So unlike the realities of war.

Vaenv

16-07-2004, 02:44

Messenger: Shinobi Loki, Cam III has attacked Sarzonia.

Loki: Again?

Messenger: Yes, sir. ICBM's.

Loki: I can 't believe Cam III is at it again, communications shut off nation wide for a while and the moment they are back up he has to attack.

Messenger: What shall we do sir?

Loki: Ready my ship. Notify the fleet that we are to head for the Allied Fleet immediately after i gain the coordiantes.

Messenger: Yes, sir.

Loki (to a communications expert): Send a message to Sarzonia...

From Vaenv
to Sarzonia, and allies.

Good day. I hope you are all well. Let's get down to business however. I would like the coordinates for our congregation of fleets. I will send my fleet as soon as we gain the meeting point.

Good luck, and may your God or God's watch over ye.

Soviet leaders

16-07-2004, 03:15

20:00
(send in instead of the last post of mine)
1,000 soilders
Brefing room
Genral Alexzander:
BLITZKREG attack going in to the attack.
24 X-41 (steath bombers the have nuclear and Chem, Bio)
the BLITZKREG begins at 22:00 ends at 13:00
YOU Are dismist
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21:40 (the Military Actions HQ)
Genral: how many aren't coming back Est. 1-24
Commander: you won't have to Fear for the misslies will destroy there anti-aircraft guns.
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missles base were ready for a complete attack of camIII anti-aircraft.
Lunch on Fire the computer counted down from 10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1 FIRE!!!!!
20 misslies lunch at the same time

The Zoogie People

16-07-2004, 04:31

Soviet leaders will be ignored by West Scotland for the present.

West Scotland delivered a final ultimatum to the Cam III military and government today, demanding them to stand down and accept certain allied conditions, to be determined.

We would also like to remind them that their insignificant fleet is going up against three or more powerful ones even as we speak, boasting the technology of Isselmere, Granzi, and Doujin.

You had best be advised comply, lest the lives of your sailors be needlessly lost.

Austar Union

16-07-2004, 04:33

Anatoba >> Presidential Office

Peter Allen, the Secretary of Defense sat calmly, legs crossed on the other side of the President's table. In his presence, time seemed to stand still.

"Well Mr. President, the military is in barely shape to send out at the moment. I mean, we are in the process of overhauling it now. At the Praetonian Shipyards, we have just put in a $2.8 Trillion Dollar order. That would make our navy VERY large sir.", said Mr. Allen calmly.

The President frowned, "Im sure the military can handle an operation Mr. Allen. Its not incompacitated is it? I mean, the Sarzonians have asked for our assistance specifically. I dont want to have a history of abandoning our allies, not like the Credonians did to us some time ago."

Mr Allen nodded, "Well Sir, the military isnt incompacitated. I was just stating that it would be undesirable to send it out. I mean, so much is happening already. We have to send Mr. Julan on the global tour soon, we're still hosting the Christian Conference, we're overhauling the military, and so much more."

The President smiled, "Well then, there isnt a problem isnt there. How fast can you get a force into Cam III?

Mr Allen thought for a few moments, "I can use the Transtar fleet to get us in within hours, but I dont think it nessasary..."

"Nor would I authorise the use of it," added the President.

Nodding, Mr. Allen continued, "Well sir, I can have perhaps a fleet or two en-route to Cam III within a matter of days. They would arrive sometime within the next two weeks. Cam III isnt a large opponent. I would put the war at something like...... a few weeks, if not a month or so?"

"Very well then," commented the President, "Put the order out. Im sure you can arrange the details."

Standing up, the Peter Allen shook the President's hand with a firm grasp, "Im more than capable sir..."

-----A Few Days Later-----

It was a reasonable operation, but not in comparison to the size and capability of the military. The Austarians were proud on this day, many of them taking the day off work to bid the soldiers farewell. Mobilizing two main fleets and a few battlegroups, the leaders and citizens of the nations were confident in the operation. Cam III would be a successful campaign, and most people estimated that the entire thing would pass quickly. Being the first campaign since the World Jolt Changeover, this would be a precedent as to the future of the Austarian Military.

As families, friends, and even random people bid the soldiers goodwill, flags and streamers could be seen throughout the entire port in a colorful display. The Austarians were fiercly patriotic, and believed that they were supporting an army of God himself. On the decks of the ships, the men and women being sent stood proud. This was their moment, where they could set a record in the history books. Each had the passion, the burning desire to stand out amongst the crowd. Moral was high, and technology at this time was unprecedented. The fire, the passion could be seen in every man's, every woman's eyes. Every breath they made, was just one breath closer to the day when their name would be famous. In an amazing display, forces left the dock, and began to short trip, en-route to waters just off the coast of Cam III.

Deep Inside Cam III Waters >> Aboard the USS Belittle

All was silent on board the stealthy submarine. It was an older class, being a Los Angles Class Submarine, but never the less, it served its purpose. On the radar, a large dot could be seen as the crew piloted the submarine. Running almost completly silently, the submarine stalked the target. Identified as a carrier of Cam III, it would make a valuable target.

Turning the submarine slowly, the crew positioned the craft so that it was perpendicular to the carrier, which was now some 400 meters away from the submarine which had not been noticed it seemed.

"Flood Tubes One and Two," breathed the Commander. On order, the weapons officer flooded the tubes. It made a small amount of noise, but noise which it seemed to not notice. The carrier was now completly still on the radar, seemingly unaware of the danger that lied only 380 Meters away.

"Fire Tube One...", ordered the Commander. This time, a pinging noise could be heard as the bay opened and the torpedo shot through. This was the regular acoustic signature of a torpedo. The crew gathered around the Acoustics Officer as the torpedo homed in on its target.

"Torpedo has aquired...... Torpedo gone... active.... Closing in on its target, now just 100 Meters away from target...", reported the Officer in a regular fashion.

The crew cheered, for it would only take a few seconds for the torpedo to hit its target. Just to make sure the carrier would sink, the Commander ordered the firing of the second tube. Now, the command area was completly silent as they listened for any signs of the carrier being hit and sinking. As soon as those noises would be heard, it was standard procedure for the submarine to make like a hole in the water, and go completly silent.

OOC: Cam III, just to make sure you know, I havent roleplayed that I have hit the ship. Basically, its pretty much inevitable that the carrier would be hit and sunk, but for me to post that would be godmodding, so im leaving that part up to you. Im just roleplaying up to the point where ive shot the torpedo's and they have homed into the carrier. There are a few seconds left for the torpedo to actually hit.

Magdha

16-07-2004, 04:33

The Anti-ICBM system detected several more ICBMs. The course plotter found them heading directly for Sarzonia, and using this course plotter scrambled anti ICBM missiles from both space based locations and silos on earth to intercept the ICBMs on a point in their trajectory.

New Delhi, Magdha-
"My lord," A major ran into the throne room carrying a message. "Cam III has fired another round of ICBMs and we have attempted to intercept the missiles. Should we do anything else?" The Maharajah sat for a second and thought, "Use space based weapons on CAM III, target military installations."

Above CAM III's capital-
XR-1 orbited above the nation of CAM III, below was what was assumed to be nuclear missile silos because of the launches detected from this area. XR-1 prepared for the launch of her godrods (basically large cylindrical objects fired from a satellite and cause massive damage on the ground). With an order from the ground the Saellite targeted 10 suspected missile silos and then launched the godrods.

Soviet leaders

16-07-2004, 06:56

23:00
Sectary:runs into the office SIR it seems that um CAMIII has been destroyed
Permier:YES!!!!MAS GET OVER HERE!!!!!
MAS:YES SIR.
Permier: how many dead on there side
MAS: unknown we geuss 100+ easy
Permier:GOOD
MAS:I'll leave you.
Permier: (talking to him self) why so many men dead becaues CamIII could not
sign some pace agreement instead he lunch a nuclear wepone some other nation

But I am glad that the war is over and no losses to us and i fill sad for the ones that died.
24:00
P.Sectary: SIR we loss 100 aircraft
Permier:Leave.
P. Sectary: Yes Sir
Permier: opens a bottel of Russian vodka and says for Glory for Power for Peace! why do they have to die.and goes to sleep.(in his bed)
0:00

Austar Union

16-07-2004, 07:14

Christoniac

16-07-2004, 08:55

Praetonia

16-07-2004, 11:51

OOC: I second that, it's really annoying.

IC: Praetonia is willing to hold talks between the many parties involved, as we are allied to both Sarzonia and (at the moment) Cam III.

Bree Tonia

16-07-2004, 12:16

The Zoogie People

16-07-2004, 14:39

This is an unusual statement coming from Zoogiedom, who usually favors peace and diplomacy over war, but we will not consider the possibility of peace at the moment. We see it as a waste of time, money, and resources - the current situation, after all, has been brought to you courtesy of Cam III's blatant failing to acknowledge peace as a possibility. Peace has failed.

Aircraft squadrons have begun preliminary operations against the Cam III fleets. ETA unknown...stats will come up at a later time.

Magdha

16-07-2004, 14:59

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 15:13

Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber was monitoring the situation from the office to which he had been sequestered in Granzi City after negotiations with Cam III broke down. He received regular updates from Senior Vice President for Internal Affairs Nicole Lewis and realized what was happening.

After he received the latest word from Lewis, he sent a message to the leader of Praetonia [OOC: I'm not sure if I should say emperor or Prime Minister or President or what, so I'll just leave it at that.]

To: Praetonian leader
From: Mark Lorber, Senior Vice President for External Affairs, Sarzonia
Subject: Peace talks

We respect your desire for peace, especially since you have been put in an unfortunate position between two allies. However, for there to be a lasting peace, both parties have to want it. It is painfully obvious that Cam III has no such interest in peace.

Lorber sat down after sending the message and shook his head gravely.

"If we weren't in two wars right now, I'd hate to be in his position," Lorber said of the position the Praetonian government was in.

"Morathania is also in the same situation," an aide pointed out to Lorber.

"Damn," Lorber said. "I feel bad for them, too."

"What's the status of the rest of the Victoria Alliance?" Lorber asked.

"We have only heard from Praetonia and Morathania," another aide said.

"That would make sense," Lorber said. After all, he thought, they were the two countries Sarzonia had an active alliance with. Morathania helped Sarzonia win its civil war against Bausch and Praetonians stood side by side with Sarzonia against slavery and an anti-gay holocaust. Sarzonia and Praetonia were also fighting CorpSac in another war. It was for those reasons that Morathania was delaying its entry into the war and Praetonia was hoping to get both countries to the negotiating table.

"I hope Praetonia understands the bind we're in," Lorber said. "Cam III will remain a threat to us as long as they're around."

He picked up his cell phone and called the West Scotland President's office.

"Tell him I have intel on the Cam III fleet. Tell him it's Praetonian-built. Most of those ships are Trimarian hulled. Kinetic weapons are likely going to be the most effective way to eliminate them."

Lorber hung up, hoping that message would get through to the fleets moving to intercept Cam III's fleet. He prayed that would be enough.

The Zoogie People

16-07-2004, 15:20

Then what is to be done about CAM III?

Ultimately, we must use diplomacy, but Cam III has proven to not accept it. Our immediate goals are to defend Sarzonia by intercepting a Cam III invasion force and combating every attack on Sarzonia by Cam III in what ways we can.

We will continue to destroy and undermine Cam III's military until we view them as no longer a threat or they are forced to accept diplomacy...that is our view.

We will also use this opportunity to keep a close watch on your nation - Magdha. We can only hope that your nation's leadership has improved since we last met, when you were threatening Granzi in Singapore.

OOC - Ick, sorry, I'm losing track myself. I said Zoogie last time - I meant West Scotland. I'm too busy at the moment to write out a reply in dialogue, but consider your intel acknowledged and received. What's a kinetic weapon? As in torpedoes?

Morathania

16-07-2004, 15:26

Magdha

16-07-2004, 15:29

[QUOTE=The Zoogie People]
We will also use this opportunity to keep a close watch on your nation - Magdha. We can only hope that your nation's leadership has improved since we last met, when you were threatening Granzi in Singapore.
QUOTE]

There has been much improvement. A constitution has been created and the absolute monarchy is now no longer existant.

But first I must reroute 3 Army and 1 armoured division to Sarzonia along with the 5th fleet.

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 15:32

OOC - Ick, sorry, I'm losing track myself. I said Zoogie last time - I meant West Scotland. I'm too busy at the moment to write out a reply in dialogue, but consider your intel acknowledged and received. What's a kinetic weapon? As in torpedoes?

[OOC: A kinetic weapon would be something like a rail gun or a tungsten rod.

Tungsten rods (like what Magdha is using -- he calls them Godrods) are projectiles that are fired from satellites. The rods are guided by GPS and When they enter the Earth's atmosphere, they plummet toward their target at hypersonic speeds. The effectiveness of the weapon comes from the impact at the high speeds. Explosive-based weapons are ineffective against Trimarian-hulled ships. The best, most cost-effective defense against them is the tungsten rods (though rail guns also use a similar principle).

I got much of the information from the Popular Science website after Freethinkers pointed it out to me. Since he designed the Doujin and since he's widely respected throughout NS for his expertise, I figured he knew what he was talking about.]

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 15:38

President of the Federation Colin Wixted phoned Mike Sarzo of Sarzonia.
"Sarzo, I think I have a way to end this war or get enough nations to join your cause that Cam III will not be able to withstand. I am in the Victoria Alliance with Cam III we have already consider strong disiplinary action against him in condemnation of the attacks on your country. I will work through the Alliance to try to stop this war before both you and Cam III are destroyed. I still remember our alliance and I will help as best as I can to help you achieve peace. What do you think, Mike."

Sarzo answered the phone and listened to Wixted.

"That's probably the biggest bargaining chip Cam III would be able to wield is his membership in Victoria Alliance," he began. "From the looks of it, he does not appear to show interest in listening to reason in the face of a large and powerful coalition. He's out for vengeance and he's out to wipe us off the face of the Earth. Anything less would be defeat for him and right now, I need to think accordingly.

"Believe me, I hope you're right and I hope he realizes what he's up against if the Victoria Alliance backs Sarzonia. But right now, it doesn't look too promising that it will be the case. However, since I deeply value our relations with you and your friendship with the Sarzonian people, I will not stand in your way of trying to contact the rest of the Victoria Alliance.

"If Cam III weren't part of the alliance, we would be interested in joining it, though, so you can keep that in the back of your mind if you'd like."

Magdha

16-07-2004, 15:42

Update:
Magdha is preparing to send 10 More infantry and 5 more tank divisions (200,000 infantry and 10,000 Tanks). We find CAM III's invasion of peaceful Sarzonia to be unwarranted and will stop it with whatever means necessary.

Morathania

16-07-2004, 15:47

"I will try my hardest to get the Victoria Alliance involved. Their are some members who are backing me and Praetonia. They includ Island of Rose, Knopper, Hamptonshire, and Momanguise. But their are some who still resist and want to keep him in the alliance. I'll try to get the VA to help you I just hope it wont be to late. You hold strong Mike and may God help you."

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 16:09

Permission to hit Soviet Leaders over the head with a wet trout please....

[OOC: If it'll get him to RP properly...]

Aust

16-07-2004, 16:22

"Sir, Cam III just launched nukes at Sarztonia!(SP)"
"When?"
"A few minuates ago, sire."
"Weren't they having a ceace-fire!"
"I thinks so sir."
"Cam has broken my honour two many times now, I made it clear that if he broke the ceacefire this time I wouldn't support him."
"very good sir."
"Send a message to those arrayed against him, Aust comes to there aid, see if you can get the Missile Detection systerm to shoot down those missiles. Get all the legions off ASS ready to leave within 24 hours. Triple RP alert!"
"Sir."

To: Those aginst Cam
From: Emporer Palpatine the 3rd of Aust.

We once supported Cam, but this underhand attack during a cease-fire demeans our honour we join you in your fight. Aust's forces are ready.

To: All nations
From: Aust
Cam III's base attack has shocked and desgusted us, we are now at war with Cam.

Aust

16-07-2004, 16:24

OOC: Just rembered, Cam is my regions delegate. Civil war, I hope the rest of SLOA support me. i think they will, well thats one card gone Cam.

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 16:46

President Mike Sarzo sat down for a brief moment, but his cell phone rang before he could take more than a brief second's rest.

"Sarzo."

"Aust is getting involved," came the word from a mid-level deputy to Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber.

"Christ!" Sarzo muttered.

"Mr. President, they're on our side this time."

Sarzo's eyes widened.

"Oh?"

"They said before the cease fire that they would support us if Cam III broke the cease fire. They have now declared war on Cam III."

"How many countries does that make it now?"

The aide paused for a moment.

"I think we have solid committments from nine countries, sir." [OOC: Since the VA countries that are supporting Praetonia and Morathania haven't posted yet, I haven't counted them. If I've forgotten someone, I'm sorry.]

He looked at the list of countries that were supporting Sarzonia.

"That's quite a large list of countries. That is going to be quite a lot of thank yous to go around."

"I think that's a job for the diplomats, Mr. President."

Sarzo managed to smile.

To: All countries supporting Sarzonia
From: President Mike Sarzo

I would be horribly remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to thank all of you for your support in this war for our very survival. You have our deepest gratitude.

Aust

16-07-2004, 16:51

To: All countries supporting Sarzonia
From: President Mike Sarzo

I would be horribly remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to thank all of you for your support in this war for our very survival. You have our deepest gratitude.
"nice of them, I didn't expect thanks, just doing our job." Said diplomat General Mick Harris, "Shall I forward it to the Emporer."
"No." His superor replyed, "Just send them a thank you card."

Granzi

16-07-2004, 16:53

OOC: I think kinetic weaponry also included those that use the force of impact to cause damage. For example, our battleships use the "Ironstorm" round. It's a solid reinforced steel slug, no explosives whatso ever. It uses the force generated from speed and contact to punch through armor. Most effective against well-armored units or deadly shore bombardment. IC response coming later.

Austar Union

16-07-2004, 16:57

OOC: Bump.... Note to Cam III, dont forget to post losses and responses on my attack on your carrier ;)

Soviet leaders

16-07-2004, 16:57

here i am sending
1,000 soilders
12 MIG-29s

2 missiles

(Ok i have read the godmoding and i am lost as were i am godmoding at like the 20 missels or the 24 planes or 1,000,000soilders?!!!!

Bree Tonia

16-07-2004, 17:01

You posted other ppls losses....

23:00
Sectary:runs into the office SIR it seems that um CAMIII has been destroyed
Permier:YES!!!!MAS GET OVER HERE!!!!!
MAS:YES SIR.
Permier: how many dead on there side
MAS: unknown we geuss 100+ easy
Permier:GOOD
MAS:I'll leave you.
Permier: (talking to him self) why so many men dead becaues CamIII could not
sign some pace agreement instead he lunch a nuclear wepone some other nation

But I am glad that the war is over and no losses to us and i fill sad for the ones that died.
24:00
P.Sectary: SIR we loss 100 aircraft
Permier:Leave.
P. Sectary: Yes Sir
Permier: opens a bottel of Russian vodka and says for Glory for Power for Peace! why do they have to die.and goes to sleep.(in his bed)
0:00

West Scotland

16-07-2004, 17:12

[OOC: A kinetic weapon would be something like a rail gun or a tungsten rod.

Tungsten rods (like what Magdha is using -- he calls them Godrods) are projectiles that are fired from satellites. The rods are guided by GPS and When they enter the Earth's atmosphere, they plummet toward their target at hypersonic speeds. The effectiveness of the weapon comes from the impact at the high speeds. Explosive-based weapons are ineffective against Trimarian-hulled ships. The best, most cost-effective defense against them is the tungsten rods (though rail guns also use a similar principle).

I got much of the information from the Popular Science website after Freethinkers pointed it out to me. Since he designed the Doujin and since he's widely respected throughout NS for his expertise, I figured he knew what he was talking about.]

Ah...I see what you mean. I have those, but they're primitive and still not fully developed as I would like them to be. (I have an article on this from US News) I'll leave the uber-satellite-zapping to you guys...

Soviet leaders

16-07-2004, 17:16

Oh thanks i did realise thank you Bree Tonia

Praetonia

16-07-2004, 17:45

To: President Mike Sarzo
From: Prime Minister Julianus

We are desperately sorry about your situation. We are currently enaged in
talks within the Victoria Alliance as to what to do with Cam III, and
disciplinary action is being discussed, as is coming into the war on your side
regardless of alliances to Cam III.

The 7th and 9th Imperial Fleets (2 of the 4 currently not defending Praetonia
from Corpsac) are moving at flanking speed to takeup position near your fleet
for 'exercises'. They will be ready to act immediately if and when war is
declared.

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 17:53

[OOC: It's President Mike Sarzo. :)]

Praetonia

16-07-2004, 18:07

Thanks. Editted.

Isselmere

16-07-2004, 18:38

Two maritime fleets have been heading to the defence of Sarzonian waters since the declaration of war by the King in Council. Orbiting satellites and defence stations have been targetted and attacked by Isselmere-Nielander space forces with the intent of blinding Cam III. The continued use of ICBMs by Cam III will result in orbital bombardment by kinetic energy weapons. [OOC: Key targets of such attacks will be: petroleum oil and lubricants depots and refineries, power stations, communications nexi, military (by which I mean army, navy, and air force) bases, orbital launching stations, missile defence stations and radar positions (through counter-battery fire).]

It is a great honour to assist our honourable ally Sarzonia defeat the warmongerer Cam III.

Cam III

16-07-2004, 18:38

Sir, I am urging you to have peace talks!

No, I will not, Sarzonia must die, or whatever his name is!

Well I will disarm the armed forces and engange in peace talks!

NO! You will not, kill him!

No sire, I agree with him.

WHAT! Damn it, tell them I personaly will attend.

Yes my lord.

[code]To: All fighting Cam III
From: Commander Dante.
I have presuaded my lord to have peace talks, BUT only if no more inocents die. (The ones on the cruiser and all others.) My lord will attand personaly, and ONLY if the talks are held in a neutral country, one who has no grudges against me or Sarzonia. I want no more people to die, on ANY sides. I am sorry for my masters actions.

Thank you,

Dante.

Cam III

16-07-2004, 18:45

Grenval

16-07-2004, 19:54

Official Statement; Minister of Foreign Affairs

Grenval will act as a neutral country for peace talks.

Anthony Bafringh
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Grenval City, Grenval

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 20:16

[OOC: Cam III, POST YOUR LOSSES!]

President Mike Sarzo read the statement from Commander Dante with annoyance.

"Don't you think it's a little late for that," Sarzo muttered to himself. "I trust them about as far as I can throw them," he thought.

Sarzo placed a call to each of the allied forces.

"I believe you've all seen the communicade," Sarzo said. "I have an idea of what my response would be, but since you all are my allies, I want to get your opinion on an appropriate course of action first.

"Frankly, I don't believe that they're genuinely interested in peace and are only agreeing to go to the negotiating table because they're facing over a dozen countries that are ready and willing to destroy their ability to threaten anyone. I would prefer getting an unconditional surrender from him, but I would prefer to hear from all of you.

"I trust that all of you will be honest in your appraisals of the best course of action."

Sarzo waited patiently for their answers.

Crystilakere

16-07-2004, 20:17

Crystilakere would like to offer Sarzonia full use of the Island of Diamindokere for any Military operations or reparations needed following the war with Cam III.

Sarzonian Officers have been officially invited to the Eastern Diamindokere tip to the Atlantian Oceania Celestial Defense Headquarters (AOCDH), where they will be seen equally in the eyes of the Crystili, Vilitan and Salmantic Officers they will be working with.

Granzi

16-07-2004, 20:58

OOC: I will be gone on vacation for a week, possibly more, beginning on Saturday. All Granzian forces are withdrawing from the Cam III conflict. I wouldn't settle for anything less than unconditional surrender and reparations for damages (mostly Sarzonia).

Isselmere

16-07-2004, 21:39

Sarzonia

16-07-2004, 21:56

I second Granzi re: conditions of settlement. Cam III has wavered between war and peace too often to be trusted. His/her ambitions need to be curtailed a bit, and force is regrettably the only means by which he/she will understand that.

[OOC: Cam's going on holiday starting today so any action probably should hold off until he gets back, whether it's the beginning of peace talks or not.

We can probably RP the discussion of our course of action until then.]

Hamptonshire

16-07-2004, 23:11

Offical Release from Grand Duke Reginald Leopold I
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Coat of Arms of the Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire

As the current President of Victoria Alliance as well as an extended ally of Sarzonia, the Grand Duchy can no longer stand by while such barbarity and injustice is carried on. The Foreign Ministry and the Intelligence Ministry have been monitoring the situation from both sides and have come to a single conclusion: Peace must win the day.

Therefore, in reflecting the current peace overture from Cam III, the Grand Duchy is willing, able, and ready to hold a Peace Conference between all parties concerned in Hamptonshire where we will act as Mediator. We are a neutral party in this matter and seek no gain for ourselves or for any cause.

The following is our decision to reprimand Cam III for his continued policy of international hositily, especially in this matter:

Presidential Decision

Cam III, due to your continued blatant disreguard for the Rule of Law, Human Life, and International Peace you have forced Victoria Alliance to take immediate disciplinary action upon you.

Your membership in Victoria Alliance is hereby suspended indefintely pending final decision on your punishment. While under suspension, you will not enjoy the protection and privileges of Victoria Alliance membership, except for QRF protection in the event of extraordinary circumstances.

As President of Victoria Alliance, Hamptonshire will offer its services are neutral meeting ground for any peace talks to end the Sarzonia-Cam III War. If Cam III actively participates in these talks, signs an agreement, and acts with continued good faith such actions will quite possibly merit full reinstatement of your membership in Victoria Alliance.

Statement Issued By:
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His Royal Highness, Grand Duke Reginald Leopold I
Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire

Grenval

16-07-2004, 23:13

[OOC - Perhaps Cam III, like Sephrioth, deserves to be destroyed.]

Morathania

17-07-2004, 00:23

President Colin Wixted was on the phone with Hamptonshire.
"You made a descision."
"Yes what is it."
"Indefinite suspension. That was actions that needed to be taken."
"Yes, the alliance needed to bring actions against him. This war is outrageous."
"Well very good. Good day."
With that he hung up the phone.
"God damn the alliance does work," Wixted thought to himself, "I gotta call Sarzo."
"Miss Fiona can you please get me Mike Sarzo. Thank you."
"Hello, Mike"
"Hello Colin, just heard the good news."
"I told you the alliance would come through. I think this is only the icing on the cake if Cam III doesn't stop terrorizing Sarzonia. Both Praetonia and I are ready to help if needed. I only hope Cam III stops this non-sense so the alliance doesn't have to get involved militarily. I have heard from sources that Cam III will be stopping offensive action for about a week [OOC: an RL week. He's going on a vacation]. I hope this period of time will help him figure out that he's going into a war where he cannot win and where even his allies have condemned him. Sarzo, If you need anything the Federation of Morathania is here. I'm here to protect an ally and to protect peace. I'll keep tryin' to stop this."

The Zoogie People

17-07-2004, 01:08

West Scotland will still fire if fired upon. We do not regard an invading fleet as full of innocent citizens - nor as civilians. Our fleet will remain on due course for a direct interception of yours - but we will not fire unless forced to.

We remain dubious of your sudden about-face, but will attend peace talks, if at all necessary.

Main Fleet

2 Lunar-class carriers
2 Infusion-class carriers
4 Thatcher-class destroyers
3 Meteora-class cruisers
1 Defiance-class frigate
1 Thunder Child-class battleship
2 Astron-class SSN
1 Warspite-class SSBN (for purposes of ensuring that you don't tick me off)

Auxiliary Fleets (forces split in two groups)

2 Infusion-class carriers
1 Ingenuity-class (very light) carrier
2 Thatcher-class destroyers
2 Defiance-class frigates
2 Seahorse-class submarines

Escort Fleet - a group heading for Sarzonia as an escort to the ships sending soldiers;

1 Ingenuity-class light carrier
2 Thatcher-class destroyers
1 Meteora-class cruiser
5 Defiance-class frigates
2 Seahorse-class submarine

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 03:18

President Mike Sarzo listened to the appeals from some of the Victoria Alliance members for peace talks, especially in light of Cam III's sudden call for them.

He went to bed that night wrestling with the pleas from Hamptonshire and Morathania for peace talks. Since they came from countries that Sarzo respected, he wrestled with his decision as he tossed and turned.

As he woke from five very fitful hours in bed, he realized what duty compelled him to do. With dread building in him as he picked up the phone. He knew Morathanian President Colin Wixted would not like what he had to say.

The phone rang. Finally, Wixted answered.

"Wixted."

"Colin, it's Mike."

"So what do you think?"

Sarzo drew his breath. Wixted could tell from the sound of the heavy sigh that he wasn't going to like what was coming.

"With all due respect to both Morathania and Hamptonshire, we are not in a position to trust that Cam III is serious about wanting peace. In all honesty, I think the only reason they are even proposing talks is the fact that they are now facing a large coalition of countries that can stomp them into the ground like a cockroach at the dinner table.

"You know I want peace as much as anyone, Colin," Sarzo said almost apologetically. "But for there to be true peace, Cam III must be eliminated as a threat. We will not go to the negotiating table until they surrender unconditionally. That is the only way we can ensure that they do not threaten us again."

Roach-Busters

17-07-2004, 03:48

Hey, Sarzonia, is this war still going on? (Sorry, I didn't feel like reading every post of the entire thread) If so, I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 03:57

Hey, Sarzonia, is this war still going on? (Sorry, I didn't feel like reading every post of the entire thread) If so, I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.

[OOC: As far as I know, it still is going on. I haven't agreed to peace talks (whoever thought I'd type THAT?!).]

Roach-Busters

17-07-2004, 04:03

[OOC: As far as I know, it still is going on. I haven't agreed to peace talks (whoever thought I'd type THAT?!).]

Want me to lend a hand?

Grenval

17-07-2004, 04:05

Want me to lend a hand?

I will back my ally seeing that the peace process that I thought was doing well is apparently not.

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 04:22

Want me to lend a hand?

Sarzonia gratefully accepts the offer of help from Roach-Busters.

Hamptonshire

17-07-2004, 04:47

The Grand Duke sat with Foriegn Minister Lord Patrick Easton and Royal Navy Chief of Staff Fleet Admiral Lord Philip Rosecrans in his office in Hampton Palace.

"Lord Rosecrans, am I to still assume that the 12th Fleet is attached to our peacekeeping forces in Cameroon along with the 13th Grand Division?" the Grand Duke asked.

"That is correct. Until Cameroon gets its own navy, the Royal Navy has promised it's protection." Lord Rosecrans replied.

Lord Easton was about to say something when an aide came into the room and handed a folder to the Grand Duke. Taking the folder he openned it and read the three papers inside while the room became completely silent.

The Grand Duke placed the papers back into the folder looked back up and said, "That was a report from the Intelligence Ministry. Sarzonia is demanding the unconditional surrender of Cam III. President Sarzo is firmly set on the elimination of Cam III as a threat to Sarzonian security. There will be no peace."

"Is that it? Will we do nothing?" Lord Easton said in an empassioned tone.

"We have a week, I don't plan to waste that time." the Grand Duke said.

"I assume you'll be sending me to meet with President Sarzo then?" Easton said while beginning to stand up.

"No, I'll need you here with me for now. I have a feeling there might be some trouble with all of this within Victoria Alliance. I'll send Lord Rosecrans to meet with President Sarzo."

"Sir, with a possible wide scale war on the verge of breaking out my place is here."

"Your are my most trusted military advisor, an intelligence officer, and a trained diplomat, Admiral. You will go to meet the President."

"I live to serve, Your Royal Highness." Rosecrans said as he stood up and saluted the Grand Duke.

"Before you leave, order the 4th and 8th Fleets to head to a point near Sarzonian territorial waters. Can they be there within a week?"

"Yes, sir. At flanking speed they should arrive within 5 to 6 days."

"Deploy Airship Squadrons 12-29, and activate the Columbia Defense Grid."

"Go Philip, you don't have a moment to spare; and Patrick, draft a communique to the Sarzonia Government informing them of our envoy."
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To: President Mike Sarzo
From: Hamptonshire Foreign Ministry

In response to your government's stance on continued peace talks, Royal Navy Chief of Staff, Fleet Admiral Lord Philip Rosecrans has been sent as a personal envoy of the Grand Duke. His mission is to meet with you and discuss the possibility of a peaceful settlement.

Additionally, 206 ships of the Royal Navy, 66 Vagary Airships, and the 19th Royal Marine Expeditionary Unit are enroute to Sarzonian territorial waters.

OOC:
Columbia Defense Grid= Network of 86 Kinetic Projectile Satellites in Low Earth Orbit.
Vagary Airships= Offensive/Defense Military Airships found here (http://s3.invisionfree.com/WorldTech_Industries/index.php?showtopic=17&view=getnewpost)

Magdha

17-07-2004, 04:53

I think we need disarmament of CAM III, they are a threat to everyone if they can use nuclear weapons so flippantly. As such Magdha is prepared to send representatives, but if CAM III attempts anything else we will use offensive measures on CAM III.

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 04:56

"Before you leave, order the 4th and 8th Fleets to head to a point near Sarzonian territorial waters. Can they be there within a week?"

"Yes, sir. At flanking speed they should arrive within 5 to 6 days."

"Deploy Airship Squadrons 12-29, and activate the Columbia Defense Grid."

"Go Philip, you don't have a moment to spare; and Patrick, draft a communique to the Sarzonia Government informing them of our envoy."

[OOC: You realize that sending a large force toward my territorial waters like that could be construed as an act of war? If you stay in international waters, that's one thing but that could easily be read to suggest that you're hinting "go to peace talks or else."]

Hamptonshire

17-07-2004, 07:54

[OOC: You realize that sending a large force toward my territorial waters like that could be construed as an act of war? If you stay in international waters, that's one thing but that could easily be read to suggest that you're hinting "go to peace talks or else."]

OOC:
Note that I said "a point near Sarzonian territorial waters". If you look at the make up of the Airships and the ships that I use, you will find that they are quite powerful defensive units. The Fleets, Marine Expeditionary Unit, the Squadrons, and the Grid are being readied for the defense of Sarzonia as well as a show of force and intention. Such a deployment shows my seriousness and my level of intention of the situation.

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 14:34

OOC:
Note that I said "a point near Sarzonian territorial waters". If you look at the make up of the Airships and the ships that I use, you will find that they are quite powerful defensive units. The Fleets, Marine Expeditionary Unit, the Squadrons, and the Grid are being readied for the defense of Sarzonia as well as a show of force and intention. Such a deployment shows my seriousness and my level of intention of the situation.

[OOC: I noted that. But I also noted that such a large force could be construed (and seems to have been misconstrued OOC) as being sent to try to coerce me into peace talks.

You and the other members of the Victoria Alliance may have good reason to trust Cam III's intentions. I and the rest of the allies don't.]

Austar Union

17-07-2004, 17:17

Deep Inside Cam III Waters >> Aboard the USS Belittle

All was silent on board the stealthy submarine. It was an older class, being a Los Angles Class Submarine, but never the less, it served its purpose. On the radar, a large dot could be seen as the crew piloted the submarine. Running almost completly silently, the submarine stalked the target. Identified as a carrier of Cam III, it would make a valuable target.

Turning the submarine slowly, the crew positioned the craft so that it was perpendicular to the carrier, which was now some 400 meters away from the submarine which had not been noticed it seemed.

"Flood Tubes One and Two," breathed the Commander. On order, the weapons officer flooded the tubes. It made a small amount of noise, but noise which it seemed to not notice. The carrier was now completly still on the radar, seemingly unaware of the danger that lied only 380 Meters away.

"Fire Tube One...", ordered the Commander. This time, a pinging noise could be heard as the bay opened and the torpedo shot through. This was the regular acoustic signature of a torpedo. The crew gathered around the Acoustics Officer as the torpedo homed in on its target.

"Torpedo has aquired...... Torpedo gone... active.... Closing in on its target, now just 100 Meters away from target...", reported the Officer in a regular fashion.

The crew cheered, for it would only take a few seconds for the torpedo to hit its target. Just to make sure the carrier would sink, the Commander ordered the firing of the second tube. Now, the command area was completly silent as they listened for any signs of the carrier being hit and sinking. As soon as those noises would be heard, it was standard procedure for the submarine to make like a hole in the water, and go completly silent.

OOC: Cam III, just to make sure you know, I havent roleplayed that I have hit the ship. Basically, its pretty much inevitable that the carrier would be hit and sunk, but for me to post that would be godmodding, so im leaving that part up to you. Im just roleplaying up to the point where ive shot the torpedo's and they have homed into the carrier. There are a few seconds left for the torpedo to actually hit.

OOC: Cam III can you actually post losses to this attack at least? And for god sakes, post some kind of a response to my fleets moving into your waters!

Sarzonia

17-07-2004, 17:35

OOC: Cam III can you actually post losses to this attack at least? And for god sakes, post some kind of a response to my fleets moving into your waters!

[OOC: I'm getting to the point where I suggest that if Cam III does not post responses when he gets back from his vacation that we have the right to post them ourselves.

I asked him TWICE to post responses to my first attack and then my second attack. Not only that, but there have been many attacks on him including yours. By his refusal to post losses, we should have the right to dictate how much damage we have inflicted.]

Morathania

17-07-2004, 21:27

Colin Wixted called Sarzo again to give him his feedback on his descision.
"Mike, I think Cam III is being serious in these peace talks. Before you say no let me explain. If you and Cam III go to peace talks and Cam III does any criminal activity or does stick to the peace terms or starts the war again the Victoria Alliance would be willing to any measures nescessary to disipline Cam III. Many have already said that he is a dark spot on the Victoria Alliance's clean slate. In the alliance we have an early return showing that 57% voted yes to Hamptonshires descision with 50% abstaining and no 'no' votes. So one last time Sarzo accept the peace talks. Work with the alliance and Cam III. If he proves untrustworthy again their will be repercussions from many nation of the alliance and many nations that have pledged their support for Sarzonia. So Mike I think it is in your best intrest to resolve this war and stop the attacks on your great nation."
Colin waited for Sarzo's reply.
I hope he excepts this. This is his only chance to avoid a long drawn out war or an even longer nuclear confrontation.

Roach-Busters

17-07-2004, 21:35

Sarzonia gratefully accepts the offer of help from Roach-Busters.

We are more than happy to help. 450,000 marines are being deployed to Sarzonia. They will be under Sarzonian command until the conflict ends. After the war, they will occupy Cam III to keep the peace. Oh yeah, and a $10 billion foreign aid package will be wired, also.

Roach-Busters

17-07-2004, 21:36

I regret that I am unable to send any vehicles, but my entire list of everything I had was posted on the old forums, but the old forums are gone, so...

The Zoogie People

18-07-2004, 00:50

At the bottom of the page, there's a section titled 'Display options.' If you drop down the options next to 'from the' and select beginning, you have all the old forum posts. It's a pity you can't search, they're just sitting around wasting space.

At any rate, we find it astounding that you have nearly half a million soldiers to spare, and even more so that they haven't a single vehicle accompanying them.

West Scotland President Nathan West (Sorry for the different name I used last time. That's supposed to be my defense minister. Got it mixed up.) also believes that Cam III sincerely wishes for peace.

However, it is our firm belief that Cam III is not seeking peace because it is a virtue that it champions, but because it is desparate. In the face of such opposition he has had no choice but to accept peace.

We can accept this. But do not think that Sarzonia's proposed settlement will be lenient.

The fleet that had been dispatched to rendevous with Cam III's has been called back to waters near Sarzonia, as we see this action as no longer necessary.

Hawaiian Islands

18-07-2004, 01:40

The Zoogie People

18-07-2004, 04:07

West Scotland confirms that all scheduled forces have arrived, including the two hundred fifty thousand ground forces and several hundred combat aircraft. We wish to make it clear that any attack directed as Sarzonia will be interpreted as a violation of their sovereignty and a declaration of war on West Scotland itself.

We are highly dubious of the peace process, but may give it a try. As a secondary goal, should peace talks be initiated, we will hold any nation sabotaging these talks accountable.

Hamptonshire

18-07-2004, 04:27

Arriving in a very well marked Foreign Ministry VIP Transport, Fleet Admiral Lord Rosecrans arrived in Sarzonia to begin face-to-face talks with President Sarzo. While still on the plane, the Admiral received some final information on the location and orders of the Hamptonian forces headed toward Sarzonia.

"Looks like they took my advice," Rosecrans said to his aide, "Fleet Vice Admiral Kirkssen has been given command of the entire 'package'. He must still be jet lagged from the flight from Cameroon."

Lord Rosecrans and his two aides stepped off of the plane and went to the car the Hamptonian Embassy sent to receive them. The car then sped off.

Sarzonia

18-07-2004, 07:38

If Cam III loses in this war, we will help rebuilding Cam III's Army and his Country (if any destroyed in this war).

However, we will not take part in this war until something bad has been done to our brother, Cam III.

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[OOC: If you try anything, you're next to be completely destroyed.]

IC: The only place that peace talks can start will be from our position that Cam III must surrender unconditionally. They must ascede to an indefinite occupation by allied forces. We believe that the only reason they are even considering peace talks is because they are facing over a dozen countries in war. We also have no reason to trust their overtures for peace, as we gave them an opportunity for peace that they spat upon previously.

Unlike the members of the Victoria Alliance, we have no reason to trust that Cam III is serious about peace talks for any reason other than the fact that they recognize that world opinion is overwhelmingly against them.

For there to be true peace in this world, Cam III must not be allowed to threaten us ever again. And Hawaiian Islands, your participation in the reconstruction of Cam III will be met with the same level of hostility that Cam III's acts of war have been met with.

Before we can even consider peace talks with Cam III, they must: 1) surrender unconditionally; 2) completely disarm, never to take up any armaments again; and 3) pay the allied forces against them reparations of at least $1.5 trillion U.S.

Hamptonshire

18-07-2004, 08:26

While we can understand, and we do share, your distrust of Cam III's sudden desire for peace, is that reason to ignore it.

Your terms for peace are understandable, yet are too harsh for Cam III to accept. Perhaps if you allow Cam III to have a small Self-Defense Force in stead of complete and perpetual disarmament, it will show your dedicated and will bring Cam to the table.

In addition, to help foster peace, end a war, and bring Cam to the table, the Government of the Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire will pay up to 25% of any reparations placed on Cam III by Sarzonia and the Allied Forces.

Morathania

18-07-2004, 15:35

The Federation of Morathania, while seeing that Cam III has produced an air of untrustworthyness in his dealings with this war, urges Sarzonia to step down his demands and while the government of Morathania would like to see an unconditional surrender of Cam III we feel that it is impossible that Cam III would accept such terms. Whilest the government of Morathania can only provide advice to our friends and allies we can say that we will be glad to host peace talks as a neutral third party. Morathania will no longer beg. We hope that the government of Sarzonia comes to its senses and reduces demands from Cam III but as this seems not to be happening the government of Morathania has decided to send a small surface striking force to the area to stay in international waters and serve as a Morathania presence in the region. An attack of these ships by any nation will be taken as a declaration of war. Their will be a total of 8 ships and 3 submarines of the 2nd Suface Stike Group of the 9th fleet sent to the areas of the Sarzonia- Cam III War. They will include:
1 Escort Carrier
2 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
2 Arleigh Bruke
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
2 Improved Los Angeles Class Attack subs
1 Sea Wolf Class Attack sub.
To repeat again an attack on any Morathania vessel will constitute an act of war and will be taken as such. This is not to be taken as action forcing Sarzonia into peace talks. This force is there to achieve a Morathanian presence and if at a later date Morathania joins this war we have a fleet albiet a small one able to go on the offensive. Thank you.

The Zoogie People

18-07-2004, 16:43

West Scotland agrees that Cam III should surrender unconditionally and disarm, but whether or not they will be allowed to take up arms again...we will leave open to debate. We have not yet passed our judgement on the amount of reparations, and believe this is something to be debated on as well (I don't know what's happened in the past in the Nellisland thread)

We trust that no nation is pressuring Sarzonia to alter his demands through military presence. We will force your military presence out if we have conclusive evidence that that is your intention.

Sarzonia

18-07-2004, 16:52

President Mike Sarzo listened with growing dismay to the requests from Morathania and Hamptonshire to "encourage" the Sarzonians to peace talks with Cam III. He presented a detailed report of the actions Cam III had undergone since their warmonger days began to delegates from Hamptonshire and Morathania.

"I'm sure I don't have to tell you exactly what leads me toward my stance on peace talks," Sarzo said. "But in any event, here is a report on exactly why we are so reticent to go to peace talks.

"Cam III has demonstrated conclusively that the only language they understand is the language of intimidation. They have lived by the sword throughout the time documented in this report. We feel that the only way to ensure that we will not be in this situation again is to ensure that they die by the sword.

"However, since both Morathania and Hamptonshire are our allies, we will not totally close the door on negotiations. We would like to point out to both countries that in any set of negotiations, you don't start out asking for what you want. You work down to that point. I am well aware that Cam III will find complete disarmament to be something they would never agree to. We may agree to allow them to keep a token Self Defense Force, but their leadership must answer to their crimes against humanity.

"Since their recent overture came from someone other than their leader, it is possible that the people who are under him have some reason. Their leader definitely must stand trial for war crimes.

"Finally, I must make the point that world history is littered with the results of mistakes when a dangerous foe is 'let off the hook' by his enemies. We can not do the same to Cam III."

Hamptonshire

18-07-2004, 21:03

"We are in no way asking Sarzonia to let Cam III off the hook, as it were. There should be serious consequences to the continued offensive posturing and disregard for diplomacy that Cam III has shown in the past.

International pressure has forced Cam III to come to the table without the need for a larger and more deadly conflict to break out. The leadership of Cam III, and not only their Leader, should be brought before an international triubunal.

It is our hope that such a tribunal will be held in and regulated by a neutral party.

Morathania

18-07-2004, 23:31

"The government of Morathania wants heavy handed punishment of Cam III for their illegal actions against Sarzonia. The only thing that Morathania is pushing for is for cool heads to prevail and a starting of peace talks. We suppport legal prosecution of Cam III for war crimes and that Cam III must be punished. We hereby ask Cam III as one member of Victoria to another that he cease and desist his actions against Sarzonia and give into all demands or face the consequences. This is for your own good Cam III just as it is in Sarzonia's intrests to accept peace talks you must accept Sarzonia's surrender plans. If you do not want this to be escalated to a point where neither nations will be able to control it."

The Zoogie People

18-07-2004, 23:51

Any word on when Cam III is getting back?

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IC

West Scotland observes that Cam III has forty-eight hours (in-context hours) to unconditionally surrender to Sarzonia and initiate comprehensive disarmament. We suggest that the allies form a conference, Victoria alliance inclusive, to decide the future of the Cam III military, of Cam III, and of the reparations.

Morathania

18-07-2004, 23:55

The government of Morathania agrees with the Zoogie Peoples/West Scotland's ultimadum and are willing to open up our capital city, Hamilton, to the peace delegation and as the site of Peace Negotiations.

Hamptonshire

19-07-2004, 00:35

The Grand Duchy agrees with the time table set forth by West Scotland. As President of Victoria Alliance and as neutral party in this matter, delegations may meet in Hamptonshire City to discuss and administer the peace.

Magdha

19-07-2004, 00:47

Before we can even consider peace talks with Cam III, they must: 1) surrender unconditionally; 2) completely disarm, never to take up any armaments again; and 3) pay the allied forces against them reparations of at least $1.5 trillion U.S.

I think possibly reducing their army to 100,000 Men and destruction of their WMDs would be better then total disarmament. Reparations should also be reduced. We don't want another Versailles.

Sarzonia

19-07-2004, 01:58

I think possibly reducing their army to 100,000 Men and destruction of their WMDs would be better then total disarmament. Reparations should also be reduced. We don't want another Versailles.

[OOC: One of the problems with Versailles IMO is that it didn't go far enough to ensure that the Germans wouldn't be a threat again.

Their navy, air force, and space force also should be dramatically curtailed. There should be no more orbital platforms from them.

Oh, also as a note, Sarzo realizes that complete disarmament is too strict, but that's where he's going to start. There's a ceiling that he's not going to budge from in terms of armed forces. It's a negotiating tactic to ask for more than you really want at first.]

We agree with West Scotland's timetable. We can discuss the rest of the terms if Cam III agrees to surrender to the allied forces.

Praetonia

19-07-2004, 16:16

OOC: Our offer to hold the talks still stands.

IC:

To: President Sarzo
From: Prime Minister Julianus

I am pleased to see that the troubles with Cam III appear to be drawing to a
close. I hope that Praetonia is never put into a smiliar position again, where
ally fights ally.

Aust

19-07-2004, 17:16

The Emporer was looking at a battlemap that was on a holo-panel to his right. It showed a map of SLOA, the snowy Lands of Antartica, and had two nations Cam, and Aust outline. Aust was the larger, far larger nation it's tentive Sea conection flanked by Cam. The empoer touched the screen.
"Here sir." one of his Generals told him, "As you can see this point, the thin Bambinio corrador is our only access to the sea if Cam cuts this he can sweep down and take our ports and strand our navy. The entire Bambinio provence is heverly populated and fighing would be fearce, if he took it we estermate over a million civillians would die."
"However, it is our only connection. we could strangle him in it. There is one pass in the mountains, the pass of Al-beda. Blood Pass."
Blood pass, the one place where the blood in Aust where the danger would come. Blood Pass, the fortress pass, blood pass where an entire Nuevo kowloon battalion had died from Elvindom and a legion of neo Earthians and Austiabns had died in a last ditch assult on the fortress.
"A ill name." The emporer murmered, well aware of this infamy.
"Ill for them sir."
"it has only ever been ill for Aust. If he does attack, he must attack this way."
"Indeed sire, unless he wishes to attack a nutral."
"he shall not for if the might of SLOA came down on him, he would be helpless!"
"he already is."
"Still we would have to face him alone in a land war, but Aust shall triumph. Mover 5 legions (50,000 men) into the Bambino provence and they may aid the marines. Tell any ani-Cam fleet they may have refuge in our waters. And prepare that provence for war! I want a triple garrson on Blood Pass fortress. And move as many legions as possable south, they shall meet near Badajoz. then we shall head south with our forses to attack. Evacuate the first 40 blocks in the city of Bambinama, and fortafy them for they are right next to cam. If he indaves Aust he will pay in souls. And general."
"Sir?"
"Onlky defend do not attack until these peace talks, if they happen are over, also tell the fleet to set sail, there is a naval engagement between a Cam cruiser and someone else, send the 2nd and 3rd fleet. they shall stop any Cam ships attempting to rescue there shipmates and rescue any survivors."
"Sir!"

Sarzonia

19-07-2004, 19:47

When Sarzonian forces received confirmation of the CorpSacian withdrawal from military theater, Patinkin ordered Commodore Marcus to return the CorpSacian prisoners to a neutral location near CorpSac where their government transports were set to pick them up.

Patinkin then looked at the Praetonian admiral with a shrug.

"He just doesn't get it, does he?"

"No he doesn't," the Praetonian replied. "No he doesn't."

With that, the two men headed back with the rest of their delegations and back to their respective locations.

Aboard the Vengeance, Patinkin was greeted with great relief by Commodore Marcus and the rest of the senior officers.

"I thought you'd never get out of there," Marcus said.

"I had my doubts," Patinkin replied. "Send word to the Praetonian command that we'll be moving off."

"Acknowledged."

"Admiral, I just received word from Navy Command."

"What is it?"

"While we were in negotiations, Cam III declared war."

"Those sons of bitches!"

"They're already suing for peace. It seems a large coalition of countries is supporting us."

"Interesting."

"We have orders to set sail for the following coordinates." The lieutenant handed Patinkin a piece of paper that detailed the location of the Sarzonian fleet's interception of Cam III's fleet. The orders stipulated that Patinkin's forces would in effect surround Cam III's fleet to prevent them from attacking the Sarzonian ships.

"Set a course for the rendevous point and order the fleet to engage at flanking speed."

"Aye, sir."

Two of the three Sarzonian fleets set sail to return to Sarzonia, while a small squadron of Trimarian hulled ships joined Patinkin's First Fleet to set sail to the intercept location.

Sarzonia

20-07-2004, 14:35

[OOC: There's going to be quite a decision in terms of where to hold peace talks since several of you offered to host them. I'll create a decision post (or proposal post if Cam III wants input in the location) soon enough.

Consider this a *bump* for now.]

Sarzonia

23-07-2004, 14:19

President Mike Sarzo was uncharacteristically relucant, but he picked up the phone anyway. As much as he wanted the war to end, he didn't feel comfortable with Cam III's sudden efforts to get to the negotiating table.

"I believe our sources tell us that Cam III 'doesn't negotiate,'" Sarzo said as he talked to Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber. "But now they are. Parliament has decided to take up Hamptonshire's offer to hold peace talks at Hamptonshire City since that country is the president of the Victoria Alliance."

"The Victoria Alliance?" Lorber's voice betrayed slight surprise for a moment, until he remembered the report from the leading Granzi City newspaper that Sarzonia joined the alliance. It was buried deep in the front section of the paper in a wire service report, but it was there, nontheless. He also remembered the report that was sitting somewhere in his briefcase that he had barely had a chance to skim. That report had all the details of Sarzonia's admission into the alliance.

"Didn't Cam III get suspended from the alliance," he asked.

"They did," Sarzo said. "Didn't you read the report Jordan sent you? The suspension, Sarzonia's admission, everything is in that report."

"I just skimmed it," Lorber said, embarrassed.

"The nutshell version is that they were suspended for consistent violations of the accords and Sarzonia was admitted into the alliance."

"But what if Cam III gets reinstated? Wouldn't we have to reopen their embassy?"

"No," Sarzo said. "We were led to believe that we may be granted special dispensation to deny Cam III an embassy or access to our technology. And if we're denied it, we probably would end up ignoring it in a worst-case scenario. But hopefully, it won't come down to that."

"We can hope."

"Anyway, rev up Sarzonia Three and head over to Hamptonshire City for the talks." Right then, Sarzo was interrupted.

"Mr. President?"

Sarzo whirled around. It was Becky, his secretary.

"Hold on, Mark. Yes, Beck?"

"I've got Dave Forrest on the phone. He wants to go negotiate with Cam III himself."

"Dave?" The former Senior Vice President for Internal Affairs retired a few years ago citing a desire to spend time with his family. He also was 77 years old. Then again, although he kept a much lower profile than his successor Nicole Lewis, he was very feisty when the situation called for it in meetings at the Gray House.

"Hey Mark, Dave Forrest wants to handle the negotiations."

"What?!" Lorber's surprise was palpable even through the international phone lines. "If he wants the job, then I guess he can have it."

"How about you both go. You're a little bit better at being diplomatic than Dave is. Dave can provide that little bit of bluntness that may be useful."

"Interesting. Should I go pick him up?"

"I think we can send Sarzonia Two there. I doubt Nicole will mind."

"Okay. I'm on my way now."

The phone hung up. Sarzo then turned to Becky.

"If Dave wants to take part in the negotiations, have Sarzonia Two take him to Hamptonshire City."

"Got it."

Sarzo tried hard to push his doubts out of his mind. He hoped that having representatives from all the allies would convince Cam III if nothing else would. He also knew that Forrest's take-no-prisoners style could either make the negotiations end the way the Sarzonians wanted them to -- or incite Cam III to resume the war. It was a gamble he felt was worth the opportunity.

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War with Sarzonia.