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Comrades!

We stand divided, and fascist militancy grows ever stronger, pointing their swords of oppression towards the people who call out to us for help! Soon, they shall attempt to march upon our lands and cripple hope of a free world, without corporate oppression. It is necessary that free socialist and communist nations, those that do not embrace dictatorship, must unite together and form a united front to defend ourselves!

It is for this reason, that some time ago the Communist International was established. We must work together to oppose the common foe, but we must also not be warmongers and harm the people we seek to aid ourselves! We seek defence and mutual aid only. We work to provide a unified front, so that we are unbreakable, the gains made are not taken from us, and the inevitable revolution is not delayed further.

If you are a Socialist or Communist nation who champions human rights and the workers cause and wish to join our organisation, contact us and we will inform you of the joining procedure, or any further information you may desire.

(OOC: Region Switching is NOT required. We run an off-site forum.)

The Socialist Workers Democracy of Kanabia
Acting Magistrate of Recruiting for The International

Join now, and get a free "I hate Bush" t-shirt.

Comrades! The movement needs you!

(and a free commie cake)

Oy vey. I know there's commies out there! You also get "I'm with Righty" t-shirt

We are not communist, but we would like to become a communist nation, but do not really know what a communist government is made of. Any help in helping us create a communist regime would be greatly appreciated.

What???

It doesn't matter. We'll help ya! First illegalize as much business as possible....

all I really need to know is what the principles of communism are. Like I know one is to get rid of social classes.

Why is free enterprise the enemy? It is the cornerstone of Maghdan society.

Kanabia don't you have a copy of the Communist Manifesto in there?

Eh, the Island of Rose is not completely communist. We have multiple party rule and small small private businesses are allowed.

We are not communist, but we would like to become a communist nation, but do not really know what a communist government is made of. Any help in helping us create a communist regime would be greatly appreciated.
check my constitution thread and you will know.

We are not communist, but we would like to become a communist nation, but do not really know what a communist government is made of. Any help in helping us create a communist regime would be greatly appreciated.


A communist nation is one where those who work the hardest get paid the same as those who are sloths.

Communism is a farce. This is a pointless grab at attention.

OOC:
I'll answer the Communist call! Oh wait... I'm already a Permanant Intelligence Commitee member... yay!

IC:

This is far from a "pointless grab at attention", this is about unifying Marxists world wide!

OOC: Arn't you supposed to be capatilist Hallad? Due to the elections...

A communist nation is one where those who work the hardest get paid the same as those who are sloths.

Communism is a farce. This is a pointless grab at attention.

If it was pointless, we wouldn't have over forty members, not counting regional allies...

A communist nation is one where those who work the hardest get paid the same as those who are sloths.

Communism is a farce. This is a pointless grab at attention.


Hmm, I'll have you know, sloths in Hattia only recieve welfare benefits for 2 weeks, after that, we don't care...

I find it funny that most fascists prefer to keep to themselves, while communists insist on fighting them. Have fun with your little "anti-fascism" crusade, it's bound to go nowhere just like the last 10,000 attempts.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

I'm already in the international, I think anyway. But hey, if there are commies out there join up. Its not painful and it can really help.

I find it funny that most fascists prefer to keep to themselves, while communists insist on fighting them. Have fun with your little "anti-fascism" crusade, it's bound to go nowhere just like the last 10,000 attempts.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

You have us all wrong, it's just a propaganda campaign. Heh, we can't take down every facist.

AMF- This isn't a "crusade", this is a persuasion for fellow socialists and communists to bind together in defence. The only conflicts we have been involved in are in defence of democratic nations and systems of thought.

Quarka- "Sloths" are the result of a materialist society. As education and the means to become whatever profession you dream is openly available to all Kanabian citizens, emphasis is placed on the value of contributing to society as a whole, and because of this, everyone wants to work for the good of it. "Welfare" is typically only required for a short period of time. Considering that provided that this system holds true, everyone reaps the rewards!

Maghda- Yes, your nation has shown itself in the past to be a paragon of human rights with your reckless imperial expansion efforts, hasn't it?

Canan- Ignore those who would spout hatred towards our cause, for they know less about us than you do. We will guide your nation to socialism, if you wish our aid, Please TG us.

I'm already in the international, I think anyway. But hey, if there are commies out there join up. Its not painful and it can really help.

You are, but you'll need to reregister. Contact me.

AMF- This isn't a "crusade", this is a persuasion for fellow socialists and communists to bind together in defence. The only conflicts we have been involved in are in defence of democratic nations and systems of thought.



That is not what your "ad" suggests.

fascist militancy grows ever stronger, pointing their swords of oppression towards the people who call out to us for help! Soon, they shall attempt to march upon our lands and cripple hope of a free world

If this dosen't sound like a call to arms, I don't know what is.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

That is not what your "ad" suggests.



If this dosen't sound like a call to arms, I don't know what is.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

You neglect to read other key sections.

form a united front to defend ourselves!
We must work together to oppose the common foe, but we must also not be warmongers and harm the people we seek to aid ourselves!
We seek defence and mutual aid only

Kanabia Check your tg's

You neglect to read other key sections.


That still dosen't change the fact that your initial sentences have made us leary of you and your intentions. If I said I hated all Kanabians but I simply wanted to defend myself, I'm sure you all would be leary of us regardless of reason.

Don't start off an advertisment for a mutual defense pact by making it sound like fascists are taking over the world. You can say everything you want about

We seek defence and mutual aid only

but that dosen't mean crap to me because on the same hand you're saying

fascist militancy grows ever stronger, pointing their swords of oppression towards the people who call out to us for help! Soon, they shall attempt to march upon our lands and cripple hope of a free world

That is what I'm concerned about. You're being watched.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

It is natural that we dislike, distrust and oppose a system that is our complete opposite. Your opposition was expected anyway, and changes nothing.

bump!

AMF- This isn't a "crusade", this is a persuasion for fellow socialists and communists to bind together in defence. The only conflicts we have been involved in are in defence of democratic nations and systems of thought.

Quarka- "Sloths" are the result of a materialist society. As education and the means to become whatever profession you dream is openly available to all Kanabian citizens, emphasis is placed on the value of contributing to society as a whole, and because of this, everyone wants to work for the good of it. "Welfare" is typically only required for a short period of time. Considering that provided that this system holds true, everyone reaps the rewards!

Maghda- Yes, your nation has shown itself in the past to be a paragon of human rights with your reckless imperial expansion efforts, hasn't it?

Canan- Ignore those who would spout hatred towards our cause, for they know less about us than you do. We will guide your nation to socialism, if you wish our aid, Please TG us.

This is a lie! Education with the most helpful attitude emphasized will not breed a society of contributors!

There will always be those who are unable to work due to their own lazy attitude—and these are the dregs of society that a system like communism attempts to scoop up and save.

The hard, tough, insensitive and intolerant FACT of the matter is that communism DOES NOT WORK because you will NEVER get an entire population to lean on each other perfectly equally!

Also, your last sentence to me makes no sense, but it DOES NOT hold true. Communism has never worked. Ever. Ever. And it won't ever.

So stop trying!

Perhaps you can't see it, but I can see a great deal of irony contained in your ideals. I'm against communism, but I can't change your mind as it is wrong, I feel. However, creating a communist and socialist organisation simply to try and force fascist nations into confilit, and drag helpless recruits into the fray is indecent and morally wrong.

May I state the similarities between both political stances. You complain how fascist organisations oppress their people. Excuse me, you people are forcing your people to all be the same, you're making them statistics just like Stalin did! There's the irony for you!

Another thing, my Nation is a Dictatorship, some of my ideas can be viewed as fascist I'm sure - but I do not oppress my people. My citizens are very happy and enjoy their lives. Now yours don't. The point I'm trying to make is not every fascist nation is psychotic and lines it's people up in fireing ranges.

The second your make war with a fascist nation you will be crushed, I can assure you. There's been so many attempts and all have failed. There are entire regions out there devoted to crushing fascist haters. My advice is to withdraw your plans to draw nations into conflict - or there will be blood spilled on your part.

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December 2003 reactivated Nation.

My armed republic if a left winged liberal stae. We are not communistic but we wish to support this forming "colation of the willing". :headbang:

AMF, we do not want a major war with facist. The International stands for peace. The fact that you say that communist are trying to start war with facist and capitalist is a lie you you are contributing to that lie.

Show me where some decent and older communist nations say something like
'We declair war on capitalism/facism'. Funny thing is that you won't. I understand you are intitled to your own opinion, but when it is a lie I will ask you to keep your mouth shut b/c your contributing to a problum and not a cure.

CornixPes II, same thing to you as I stated to AMF. The majority of capitalist/facist nations declair war on communism. When we defend ourselves your capitalist/facist nations see it as I guess an invasion or something? I really dont know. The fact is that a majority of the Marxist-Leninist nations dont declair war and only enter war to defend themselves and their allies. If anyone sees defense as what you call "invasion of capitalist/facist nations" then you might want to go get both your eyes and your brain checked because you probably have some serious damage done.

We have to agree with the concerns of Automagfreek. While we do not have a problem with communist nations banding together in defense, we are disturbed by the attempt to raise a great specter of a host of fascist nations just over the next rise, ready to subjugate all freedom-loving people. Where are these Visigoths? Where are these evil nations that threaten to destroy all democracies? Combined with some of the "capitalist-baiting" that we have seen, we have reason to view the International with a healthy dose of caution.

That being said, we have no love for fascists, or war-mongers of any stripe: communist, capitalist, fascist, religious, anti-religious, fluffy-bunny-loving, whatever. Nor do we wish to conquer territory. You don't try to "liberate" our people from the "clutches" of our corporations, we won't try to "liberate" your people from your "harshly regimented economic system", m'kay?

Oy vey....

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO NUKE CAPATILISTS INTO THE GROUND! WE ARE TRYING TO DEFEND OURSELVES! If I do any unprovoked attack, you have the right to nuke me into the ground!!!

Oy...

And my people are happy thank you very much...

*hits his head against the wall*

I swear you people are stupied

What flavor Commie Cakes? If it's chocolate... yummy. Can I join zee Alliance, Kumrades?

*hits his head against the wall*

I swear you people are stupied

I'm not stoopid :(

*hits his head against the wall*

I swear you people are stupied


OOC: Oh knock it off. I know damn well OOCly what your little alliance is all about. Just chill.

Quarka- We aren't interested in what you have to say, so leave us be...our economic strength proves that we are being successful. I could get into the inadequacies and failings of your political system, but there is no point. Go away.

My citizens are very happy and enjoy their lives. Now yours don't. I'll have you know that my nation ranks very highly in the Happiness surveys, so your point is invalid. Plus, we dont appreciate being labelled Stalinist.

Fodmodmadtol- We'll vote on your membership. It would be better if you would get your political freedoms up somewhat, however.

OOC: Oh knock it off. I know damn well OOCly what your little alliance is all about. Just chill.


The Righteous Armed Republic of Quarka wishes to state that her military and regional allies would be glad to help defend against such an alliance, side by side with Automagfreek. Communism and socialism are idiotic, disproved practices based on idealist notions and impossible sequences of implementation.

In lay terms, IT DOES NOT WORK.

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Communism = phail.

As a Capitalist absolute monarchy we are rather worried about what appears to be warmongering. Rule your people as you wish but allow me to rule mine.

Might I recommend that those who value civil rights and a commitment to an alternative to the capitalist system visit the Coalition of Anticapitalist Economies (CACE) where you will be made most welcome.

The CACE remains the oldest anticapitalist union (in OOC terms it was formed over a year ago, has about 40 members and over 300 registered members and over 27,000 posts on the forums it hosts) in the NS world and always welcomes new members.

Even if membership is not your goal the CACE is friendly to all like minded nations and invites them to join the International Fair Trade Association (IFTA), a trade bloc comprising some 73 nations.

We also welcome diplomatic representatives from fellow anticapitalist alliances.

All potential visitors are therefore invited to the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter (http://invisionfree.com/forums/CACE/index.php?act=idx) which hosts the CACE HQ.

Oh for feck's sake.

IF YOU AREN'T INTERESTED: PISS OFF. If you want to flame this alliance, start a new thread with a statement of condemnation and I will be eager to RP a response. If you want to bitch about socialism and communism- start a new thread in general. If you want to advertise your alliance, start a new thread.

If you ARE interested in joining (or want more information on us, even if you aren't a socialist or communist nation)- by all means post here.

I apologise for the outburst, but I have tried to be patient here, and you people simply aren't getting the message.

If you want to advertise your alliance, start a new thread.


OOC: Ok, don't bother with the CACE forums as your clearly not interested in forging relations with estalished left-wing nations.

Your lookout. Anyone else is welcome though.

And I wasn't even attempting to dissuade anyone from joining your alliance - hell we've even given board space to other alliances as they were setting up.

What do I care though.

The Righteous Armed Republic of Quarka wishes to state that her military and regional allies would be glad to help defend against such an alliance, side by side with Automagfreek. Communism and socialism are idiotic, disproved practices based on idealist notions and impossible sequences of implementation.

In lay terms, IT DOES NOT WORK.

Seconded.

OOC: Ok, don't bother with the CACE forums as your clearly not interested in forging relations with estalished left-wing nations.

Your lookout. Anyone else is welcome though.

And I wasn't even attempting to dissuade anyone from joining your alliance - hell we've even given board space to other alliances as they were setting up.

What do I care though.

We've been around for several months as an alliance and most of our nations are above 1 billion population. We aren't brand new and just on the scene. If you wanted to establish relations, you should have just said so outright and I would have been happy to refer it to my comrades....

Edit- Now I reread it, I see you did say that. To me it read like a recruitment hijack, that's all...sorry.

Holy Panooly...Grrr. Didn't you read what I just said