NationStates Jolt Archive


The Red Bloc Army to be more Authoritative!

Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 03:39
With the democratic loving communist nations gone for good it is up to the more firm and authoritative members to take over once more like I Vladimir Putin. People think to achieve Communism, one must be democratic. These fools do not look at the real world, it is full of anti commies and the world is not ready for our system yet. The greed of the human spirit still overcomes the greatness of equality, but one day, one day we will achieve the dreams of Karl Marx, lenin and Trosky. One day this world will live in harmony and peace. This can not be achieved by revolutions and taking advantage of greivances of the people, but through firm force and combined arms of nations who have politically and socially evolved over others who rely on dictators or corporations to make a living. We currently look for fellow comrades who follow our ideals to join the RBA. Join us a reap the benefits of our system.

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Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 03:49
OCC: Incase if anyone didn't know, the RBA is a military alliance. Kind of like the Warsaw pact.
Demonic Terrorists
27-06-2004, 03:56
We'd like to become an ally. We're not communists, but we're extremely pro-communist.
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 04:17
Vladimir Putin looks for all kinds of allies who are friendly to communism. However RBA takes communists and socailists only. Even Stalinists.
Demonic Terrorists
27-06-2004, 04:19
Thanks. No one on earth is friendlier to communism than we are (except the communists themselves, of course!).
IDF
27-06-2004, 04:21
RF, as a fellow member of the Whittier Pact, I recomend you don't let Demonic Terrorists in. He is an enemy of me and N00b ignored by most of NS
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 04:23
OCC: No worries, i will not ignore him but he won't be in the RBA. But please i don't want this to turn into a flame war.
Hattia
27-06-2004, 04:24
With the democratic loving communist nations gone for good

Hattia is still here and we are about as democratic as it can get...
Demonic Terrorists
27-06-2004, 04:25
RF, as a fellow member of the Whittier Pact, I recomend you don't let Demonic Terrorists in. He is an enemy of me and N00b ignored by most of NS

What did I do to become your enemy? :?
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 04:45
I meant in the RBA comrade Hattia. I want tougher nations in the RBA that is less tolerant to its enemies.
Whittier
27-06-2004, 05:15
RF, as a fellow member of the Whittier Pact, I recomend you don't let Demonic Terrorists in. He is an enemy of me and N00b ignored by most of NS
Demonic Terrorists does not exist in the Whittier Pact universe.
Warsaw Bloc
27-06-2004, 05:21
The Warsaw Bloc would to join this RBA if you allow.We want a Communist region that protect its members.
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 10:29
OCC: BUMP! Check you PM Warsaw Bloc
Neolithica
27-06-2004, 10:34
Neolithica pledges its support
Kanabia
27-06-2004, 10:35
It's possible to keep democracy and be hostile to capitalism....
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 10:42
Not in a unfriendly world where enemies may lurk among your citizens. We are not totally against capitalist nations but we're against Fascists. the RBA believes in military strength to solve our problems. We need it merely because there are so many anti communist nations out there who would try to exterminate it for good.
Penpusher Confederacy
27-06-2004, 10:44
With the democratic loving communist nations gone for good it is up to the more firm and authoritative members to take over once more like I Vladimir Putin. People think to achieve Communism, one must be democratic. These fools do not look at the real world, it is full of anti commies and the world is not ready for our system yet. The greed of the human spirit still overcomes the greatness of equality, but one day, one day we will achieve the dreams of Karl Marx, lenin and Trosky. One day this world will live in harmony and peace. This can not be achieved by revolutions and taking advantage of greivances of the people, but through firm force and combined arms of nations who have politically and socially evolved over others who rely on dictators or corporations to make a living. We currently look for fellow comrades who follow our ideals to join the RBA. Join us a reap the benefits of our system.

http://www.turkishtime.org/nisan/images/114_1_1.jpg
Vladimir Putin. How original.
Aztec National League
27-06-2004, 10:44
We are alarmed by the resurgence of authoritative government within the RBA. We do not agree with the belief totalitarianism is a nessaecity for communism. While it is difficult to have communism and democracy, it is not at all impossible...and totalitarianism gives our political idealolgy a bad rap. The ANL will be continuing to monitor this situation, and I will advise the ASDU to be watchful too.
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 10:48
For a nation to turn to a free and peaceful society, it must first go through totaliatarism, which is needed right now to fight the oppresors of the workers.
Hattia
27-06-2004, 10:51
No, because once you have a totalitarian government, they won't let go. And once they are overthrown, you will have another totalitarian government. Totalitarianism must be avoided at all costs on the path to communism.
Aztec National League
27-06-2004, 10:51
As it has been proven, "Change takes time"...the ASDU will still remain friendly with the RBA, the RBA has many times been the life line of the ASDU in it's early days.
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 10:54
We have not yet seen the proof if true communism works yet. Once we see it happen on other nations then we will advance to the next level.
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 10:56
OOC: My country's a kind of North Korea/Russia hybrid can I join??
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 10:58
OCC: Your nation is young yet promising. You may join. Plz PM me to confirm and i'll give you the password.
Communistpoland
27-06-2004, 11:01
ooc: RF you should come onto MSN more often, good to be able to talk to you every so often, you know?
Kanabia
27-06-2004, 11:04
Not in a unfriendly world where enemies may lurk among your citizens. We are not totally against capitalist nations but we're against Fascists. the RBA believes in military strength to solve our problems. We need it merely because there are so many anti communist nations out there who would try to exterminate it for good.

That can happen under totalitarianism as well. The solution, is to prevent your citizens becoming apathetic by listening to their concerns, which is their democratic right to express. The result will be citizens who genuinely believe in their own hearts that their nation is working for their better future, and do not think that "it must be good because we are told it is so". A government friendly to the people is necessary to ensure a socialist future.

Military strength for defence is important, yet the people must be aware of why- and their concerns must be listened to. If the people support the ideal enough, conscription will not be necessary, because citizens will flock to the military if they feel they are needed. Also, imperialist takeovers of foreign nations only serve to decrease foreign support for socialism and communism. Consider- If democratic socialism can prove to be superior to capitalism with few drawbacks, it will draw support from within capitalist nations. If, however, a socialist nation is totalitarian, its reputation will be tarnished in the eyes of those who may otherwise support the ideal. Drawing support and making socialist nations seem like a wonderful place to live in will utimately prevail in our victory.

No, because once you have a totalitarian government, they won't let go. And once they are overthrown, you will have another totalitarian government. Totalitarianism must be avoided at all costs on the path to communism.

Exactly.
Russian Forces
27-06-2004, 11:29
We will not be total stalinist like but we will be tough, More like the old Soviet Union but i wish to listen to the people more. I understand you concerns. Spasiba.
Kanabia
27-06-2004, 11:40
That is good, at least. Each to their own. We wish you well.
The Russian Confederat
27-06-2004, 13:03
The Russian Confederat would like to request membership to this noble alliance of Socialist bretheran.
Hogsweat
27-06-2004, 13:09
I agree with CP, get your arse on MSN more. xD anyhoo, we agree with these changes bla bla bla...
Independent Hitmen
27-06-2004, 13:24
This thread has been TAGGED by the Defense Department as it warrants an ungainly threat to the civilised world.

After having a brief, but significant conflict with RF, we fear this could be raising allies for some kind of world war between communists and other more sensible nations. We will be keeping a very close eye on this.
Dr_Twist
27-06-2004, 13:30
This thread has been TAGGED by the Defense Department as it warrants an ungainly threat to the civilised world.

After having a brief, but significant conflict with RF, we fear this could be raising allies for some kind of world war between communists and other more sensible nations. We will be keeping a very close eye on this.

Even thought i am no longer a Member of the RBA, I will always Stay a Major Allie Towards them The Whitter Pact and the Alliance i started a very long time ago, ASDU. I will always be a Major Allie of there's.

But i would like to Stress that the DT Government would not get Involved in anyway with a Rather Large Conflict between Belief's.
Dra-pol
27-06-2004, 13:36
The Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol believes, as outlined by comrade Director Hotan's recent work Student of the Kuro Revolution, that a true revolutionary society should be able to provide for its own defence and the protection of its own revolution before it deserves consideration as communist. The Central Directorature hardly feels the RBA worthy of a proper expression of disdain since its apparent decision to accept capitalists such as the Lasatanians in a desperate attempt to prop-up its revolution from without.

"True strength comes from within... the masses themselves are the real revolutionary heroes... a good communist provides for his or her own defence and does not drain the state or plead to the bourgeois..."
-Excerpts from comrade Hotan's Student of the Kuro Revolution.
The Russian Confederat
28-06-2004, 09:54
The Russian Confederat would like to request membership to this noble alliance of Socialist bretheran.