NationStates Jolt Archive


Communist to be executed

Rotovia
26-06-2004, 14:01
Rotovian National News

Reporter: "Late breaking news, exclusive to the RNN. Reports have just come in that a one Mr Samuel Heartings will become the first man to be sentenced to death in over 300 years, in Rotovia.

Mr Heartings was arrested a month ago in Attica City, the nation's Capital, after he had posted numerous pro-Communist posters around the City. It is believed the posters told of how he had pledged to "Destroy the Burgiose Dogs" and "Slay the Imperialist Government".

One of the shortest murder trials in Rotovian History had Mr Heartings convicted of Murder after it was discovered he had conspired to kill two senior Liberal Party Members. Unsatisfied with life imprisionment, the States sought the only charge which still holds the death penalty, Treason Against Thy People.

His earlier vandelism charge for the posters came back to haunt him, when double jeopardy was waved and Mr Heartings was charged with Treason Against Thy People. It was revealed his poster were a deliberate attempt to usurp the democratice government and an insult to Rotovian Divinity.

Attica City, reamains the only city in Rotovia to still hold the charge on it's books and one of the few to have ever used it. Dispite a high profile legal teams head by Opposition Leader Senator Heywood himself, it was held by the Supreme Court that and I quote "Vandlism is not covered under Freedom of Speech".

It took the Council of Rotovian Divinity twelve days to aggree to execute Mr Heartings. The Council was formed in the late 16th century to ensure that Rotovian Divinity was upheld, the belief that Rotovian's a sacred beings and in death return to Glory. The Council alone holds the authority to end a Rotovian Life.

It was held that "It is our grave duty to on occassion remove an impure soul from Temporal Excistance, so we are not all tainted in our Eternal Glory". It was ruled by the Council that [i]"The Sheriff of Attica City should enact our ruling within the passing of two days, it is ruled that the imortal soul of Mr Heartings should be seperated from his sinful and mortal body by means of fire."

It is currently unclear whether the execution will be public or not"
Ottoman Khaif
26-06-2004, 16:58
Are you anti-Communist?
come on this is freedom of speech........wait no because its against Government.so that means the government can shut him up.
The Fedral Union
26-06-2004, 17:06
Ok.. then The Fed union hear buy condems this act of opression . we think you should let these communist be instead of killing them if mass genocide insues we shall intervine in any means .
Knight Of The Round
26-06-2004, 17:13
The Holy Empire of Knight Of The Round people condemn such actions. At least give him the right to appeal his sentence. :wink:
Hallad
26-06-2004, 17:14
Hallad condemns this act of oppression.

[Parliament Vote:
Condemn Rotovia's Actions?
Yes: 58% (116/200)
No: 34% (68/200)
Abstain: 6% (12/200)]
Jeruselem
26-06-2004, 17:21
IC

We urge the government to avoid the use of death penalty for such purpises.

Secret IC

Just humiliate him and expose this sordid private life during the trial ... and chuck him in gaol.
Kelonian States
26-06-2004, 17:25
Top Kelonian lawyer Dmitri Nietzkov has requested information on how the posting of posters constitutes vandalism, as no property was damaged or strictly defaced. Threatening behaviour, certainly, when combined with his later actions, but not strictly, unless you have a far stricter interpretation of what constitues vandalism than Kelonia, vandalism. (of course we would have locked him up on an 'Inciting Public Unrest' charge - it's quite a serious offence which we don't take kindly to...)

That said, the Kelonian government are staying quiet on this issue, though off the record there are rumblings of vague agreement. While we have the death penalty, it is rarely used for anti-government campaigners - they tend to be thrown in jail and then... shall we say... 'lost in the system'?
Xawadiland
26-06-2004, 17:27
This is violation of his right to free speech. If you proceed with this exection, we will be forced to intervene to ensure that this does not happen again. Does your nation have a coastline?
Knight Of The Round
26-06-2004, 17:34
If they agree to let him appeal his sentence then we shall be happy. War is not the answer. To fight over one man's life is not an option. :twisted: Now if a village was being threatened.. then by all means.
Kelonian States
26-06-2004, 17:40
Secret IC: Of course, if his family are suitably wealthy the VQB could arrange an... unofficial extraction of sorts :wink:
Awestralia
26-06-2004, 17:41
The USSA takes offense at this blunt attack of communists, and Chairman Gobacevosky suggests the man be given a fair trial.
Red Wales
26-06-2004, 17:44
Red Wales condems this act of Oppression
Neo-Soviet Russia
26-06-2004, 17:50
The United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia, like that of other nations, condems this act of injustice and oppression.
26-06-2004, 18:02
I THINK ALL COMMUNISTS SHOULD BE EXECUTED THEY ARE FOOLISH PESEANTS JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THEMSELVES AND DONT GIVE TWO ESS HACHE I TEES ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. THEY ARE JUST IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:13
The Holy Empire of Knight Of The Round people condemn such actions. At least give him the right to appeal his sentence. :wink:
"To allow an Appeal would violate the cheif tenant of legal system; Rotovian Divinity. Our Constitution protects the State's right of Divinity above all else and no Court may rule against it"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Knight Of The Round
27-06-2004, 01:22
We withdraw our objection on the grounds that the laws of the state are clearly defined in this matter. You may carry on and our protest ihas now been formally withdrawn.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:23
Are you anti-Communist?
come on this is freedom of speech........wait no because its against Government.so that means the government can shut him up.
"The Rotovian Government niether supports nor condemns Communism as an ideology. Infact our Opposition Party is the Communist Coalition, however we do take exception to the display of posters that could potentially inicte violence against the Government. Namely in our nation's Capital"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:25
Ok.. then The Fed union hear buy condems this act of opression . we think you should let these communist be instead of killing them if mass genocide insues we shall intervine in any means ."These Communists? I believe you are assuming this is a persecution of Communists in Rotovia, which i most certainly is not. It is a matter of one man who commited acts of murder and treason being removed from our temporal world at the hands of justice"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:27
Hallad condemns this act of oppression.

[Parliament Vote:
Condemn Rotovia's Actions?
Yes: 58% (116/200)
No: 34% (68/200)
Abstain: 6% (12/200)]
"Though we are sadened by your nation's choice to condemn the actions of a foreign Court, I remind you that no ifluence will be allowed to be weighted against our Courts"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Marxwana
27-06-2004, 01:28
The United Socialist States of Marxwana condemns this act of Oppression. The government would also like to add that the Death Penalty is an inhumane and primitive form of punishment.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:31
IC

We urge the government to avoid the use of death penalty for such purpises.

Secret IC

Just humiliate him and expose this sordid private life during the trial ... and chuck him in gaol."The Constitutional Republic of Rotovia remains in extreme opposition to the death penalty, however acknowledges the right of the Courts to act in good conscience"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:34
Top Kelonian lawyer Dmitri Nietzkov has requested information on how the posting of posters constitutes vandalism, as no property was damaged or strictly defaced. Threatening behaviour, certainly, when combined with his later actions, but not strictly, unless you have a far stricter interpretation of what constitues vandalism than Kelonia, vandalism. (of course we would have locked him up on an 'Inciting Public Unrest' charge - it's quite a serious offence which we don't take kindly to...)

That said, the Kelonian government are staying quiet on this issue, though off the record there are rumblings of vague agreement. While we have the death penalty, it is rarely used for anti-government campaigners - they tend to be thrown in jail and then... shall we say... 'lost in the system'?
"While across Rotovia we take a more liberal stand on vandelism and free speech, in the City of Attica the law is quite rigid on the display of offencive messages, without correct authorisation."

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 01:35
Although bothered by the use of the death penalty, and concerned for its use to punish a political crime, the Commonwealth of McQuaide will not condemn the actions of a sovereign and independant government.

The Commonwealth of McQuaide encourages the Rotovian government to allow the free and open exchange of ideas through the legislative clarification of their treason laws.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:36
This is violation of his right to free speech. If you proceed with this exection, we will be forced to intervene to ensure that this does not happen again. Does your nation have a coastline?"Free speech cannot be taken to the extend where it is used to suborn murder and treason and will not be allowed to be perverted to such extremes. Our law is clear and we are bound to follow it.

Shouls you choose to assault us with force you will soon learn the true meaning of the Vengence of Rotovia."

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs

OOC: My nation is geographically equivilant to Greece, and just bellow Credonia on a map. I'll post my map later.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:38
The USSA takes offense at this blunt attack of communists, and Chairman Gobacevosky suggests the man be given a fair trial."Mr Heartings received a fair and free trial. His legal teams was second to none and a panel of impartial Judges found him guilty on matters of law and evidence alone"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Simkid
27-06-2004, 01:39
The Empire of Simkid is deeply disturbed by any nation considering itself an infalible divinity, and is further oposed to any use of capital punishment. The Empire is instituting an immiediate trade embargo against Rotovia and intends to inforce a total blockade on Rotovia by force if neccecary if the sentance is carried out.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:39
Red Wales condems this act of Oppression"This is merely an the administration of justice in a clear and emotionless fashion. We do not play favourites in our legal system"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:41
The United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia, like that of other nations, condems this act of injustice and oppression."It is precisely the opposite, the administration of blind justice against and act of treason and murder"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:42
The United Socialist States of Marxwana condemns this act of Oppression. The government would also like to add that the Death Penalty is an inhumane and primitive form of punishment."You are free to condemn acts of justice if you please"
Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:46
Although bothered by the use of the death penalty, and concerned for its use to punish a political crime, the Commonwealth of McQuaide will not condemn the actions of a sovereign and independant government.

The Commonwealth of McQuaide encourages the Rotovian government to allow the free and open exchange of ideas through the legislative clarification of their treason laws."The Constitutional Republic of Rotovia is held back by one matter, and that is a legal system that spans over four thousand years. Leaving many archaic laws still in excistance, some even in ancient cuniform.

However, it remains our government's stance to not tolerate acts of treason or murder in any of it's forms"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Letila
27-06-2004, 01:53
Letila condemns this action and will take action to prevent it. We are sending 3 frigates to Rotovia to attempt to convince them not to. We will not allow them to kill fellow communists, even if they are authoritarian ones.

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myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:54
The Empire of Simkid is deeply disturbed by any nation considering itself an infalible divinity, and is further oposed to any use of capital punishment. The Empire is instituting an immiediate trade embargo against Rotovia and intends to inforce a total blockade on Rotovia by force if neccecary if the sentance is carried out."A blockade is an act of war and will be treated as such by the Rotovian Navy"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 01:56
Letila condemns this action and will take action to prevent it. We are sending 3 frigates to Rotovia to attempt to convince them not to. We will not allow them to kill fellow communists, even if they are authoritarian ones.

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"If the left is understood to include 'Bolshevism,' then I would flatly dissociate
myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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"The rulings of our Courts cannot be swayed by foreign influence or even the the democratic government. We Seperation of Powers to be sacred"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Roach-Busters
27-06-2004, 02:17
Although Roach-Busters is staunchly anti-communist, we condemn those who kill communists because of their beliefs. Hating communism is fine, but hating communists is not. We demand that you refrain from executing this communist.
Letila
27-06-2004, 02:19
"The rulings of our Courts cannot be swayed by foreign influence or even the the democratic government. We Seperation of Powers to be sacred"

In that case, we have no choice but to give the government a taste of it's own medicine. We will use our transmitters to drown out government transmissions and instead display hentai. That should teach you not to slaughter dissidents.

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"If the left is understood to include 'Bolshevism,' then I would flatly dissociate
myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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The Fedral Union
27-06-2004, 02:20
Hmm.. soundsl iek the mcrathysium era all over again ..
The Fedral Union
27-06-2004, 02:21
"The rulings of our Courts cannot be swayed by foreign influence or even the the democratic government. We Seperation of Powers to be sacred"

In that case, we have no choice but to give the government a taste of it's own medicine. We will use our transmitters to drown out government transmissions and instead display hentai. That should teach you not to slaughter dissidents.

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"If the left is understood to include 'Bolshevism,' then I would flatly dissociate
myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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Red Wales
27-06-2004, 02:24
The Rotovian Government niether supports nor condemns Communism as an ideology. Infact our Opposition Party is the Communist Coalition, however we do take exception to the display of posters that could potentially inicte violence against the Government. Namely in our nation's Capital"

Red Wales after carefull reveiw of the sitution, plus the increased threat from the Communist Revolutionary Army terrorists in Red Wales, we would like to withdraw our statement and issue you with an applogy, despite our oppisition to the use of capital punishment for any crimes, including treason.
Generic empire
27-06-2004, 02:25
We find these gestures of hostility against Rotovia to be completely pathetic. This is entirely an internal affair, and the only reason that we can find for threatening the nation's sovereignty is to ensure the spread of the opposing nation's political ideaology, communism in this case. Letila and all other nations who openly threaten Rotovia's sovereignty are hereby condemned. If it comes to war, then Rotovia, you have our full support.
Simkid
27-06-2004, 02:27
The Empire considers any executions to be a crime against humanity, and is therfore constiutionally obliged to go to war if the action occurs. On the other hand as our navy currently consists of one fireboat and enough officers to manage the purchase of our new fleet currently on order we will not become involved in the affairs of Rotovia other than to institute our trade embargo.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 02:28
We find these gestures of hostility against Rotovia to be completely pathetic. This is entirely an internal affair, and the only reason that we can find for threatening the nation's sovereignty is to ensure the spread of the opposing nation's political ideaology, communism in this case. Letila and all other nations who openly threaten Rotovia's sovereignty are hereby condemned. If it comes to war, then Rotovia, you have our full support."We thank the Generia for their support of Rotovia and it's right to carry on it's own internal affairs without hindernace"

Senator Charles Wheeler
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Letila
27-06-2004, 02:30
"We thank the Generia for their support of Rotovia and it's right to carry on it's own internal affairs without hindernace"

We really don't care about a concept as stupid as a nation-state. Freedom is the right of everyone. Your oppression must be opposed. If you fear a dictatorship from these communists, you are foolish. You already are fascist for all practical purposes.

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myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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MyNannasBackyard
27-06-2004, 02:34
I'm gunna hafta give you the nay-no



OH BURN, YOU GOT CONDEMNED!!!!!
Hawaiian Islands
27-06-2004, 02:35
We are proud to show that we are Communist. Yet, we have not done harm to any of our citizens. We know our citizens love the rule of Communism without forcing them to say. We have given them all the Demorcratic freedoms, but we're under Communist control.

-Tropical Guard
Scottish chipmunks
27-06-2004, 02:39
The United Socialist States of Scottish chipmunks strongly disagrees with this nation's decision to create a genocide of communists on the basis of a revolutionary consipiracy theory. Obviously this man deserved to at least been able to defend himself in a court of law. This whole situation is an outrage and disciplinary action by the United Nations is strongly advised to keep anything like this happening to any communist.
Neo-Soviet Russia
27-06-2004, 02:47
Letila
27-06-2004, 02:51
Given the lack of a responce from Rotovia, it seems that our psychological attack didn't work. I think it's time to hit harder. We will send troops in soon.

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myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism."-Chomsky
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Neo-Soviet Russia
27-06-2004, 02:52
The USSNSR would like to clarify that, though the death sentence is somewhat understood for conspiring to assassinate two Liberal Party members, we find the idea of one not able spread his feelings, even through posters easily removed, regardless of if they go for or against the government, and of death via flame to be a bit off in our eyes. With that, we more or less, for now, disagree with you. We also publicly apologize for, as one might put it, rushing the gun.
Generic empire
27-06-2004, 02:58
I would like to take this time to remind you, in Rotovia's defense, that this is the first person executed in over 300 YEARS. The man in question conspired to overthrow the government and kill two senators. The death of one very deserving criminal is not worth a world war! I implore you to reconsider. This act is obviously a megalomaniacal assault in order to ensure the spread of communism. What ever happened to the freedom for a nation to have its own political ideology? Once more I beg you to stop this nonsense, but whatever the case we as a people, in order to preserve the sovereignty of a nation and its right to its own government style, will support Rotovia no matter how drastic the situation becomes. Rotovia, if you will have them we will deploy Imperial soldiers to your fair nation in order to preserve your way of life. However humble this gesture is, we hope in the end you will prevail.
Generic empire
27-06-2004, 02:58
I would like to take this time to remind you, in Rotovia's defense, that this is the first person executed in over 300 YEARS. The man in question conspired to overthrow the government and kill two senators. The death of one very deserving criminal is not worth a world war! I implore you to reconsider. This act is obviously a megalomaniacal assault in order to ensure the spread of communism. What ever happened to the freedom for a nation to have its own political ideology? Once more I beg you to stop this nonsense, but whatever the case we as a people, in order to preserve the sovereignty of a nation and its right to its own government style, will support Rotovia no matter how drastic the situation becomes. Rotovia, if you will have them we will deploy Imperial soldiers to your fair nation in order to preserve your way of life. However humble this gesture is, we hope in the end you will prevail.
Neo-Soviet Russia
27-06-2004, 03:17
The USSNSR would like to inform the Generic Empire, along with any other nation concerned, that we, for one, have no plans to conduct any sort of warfare.
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 03:20
Prime Minister's Residence

For the first time in his term as Prime Minister, Dan Sweeny was flabergasted.

"So wait. Generic Empire?"

"Yes Sir."

"The same Generic Empire that we invaded, fought, and were ready to completely destroy? The same ones that were ready to become the WalMart of the slavery market before we threatened to invade again? The ones we've still got under quarantine?"

"Yes Sir."

"And they're right?"

"Yes, sir."

"But we are too?"

"Yes sir. Both we and the Generic Empire are correct. Rotovia is completely within her right as a sovereign and freely elected government to employ the death penalty. It ain't pretty, but it's allowed."

"Well, Ok. Deploy the fleet, pull everything but a few surface combatants from the quarantine line. Have them sail for Rotovia, take station in international waters as a sign of support. McQuaide will not stand for the use of force to be used to violate national sovereignty. Set all defense forces to Condition 2, and prepare to sail the fleet."


Ministry of State Press Release

The Commonwealth of McQuaide protests the blatant threat of force against the Rotovian government. McQuaide finds that no international law has been violated, and that Rotovia's actions fall fully within the realm of national sovereignty.

Although the Commonwealth of McQuaide still encourages reform to eliminate the objected use of the death penalty for the crimes in question, the Commonwealth will not stand by as other states threaten the Rotovian government.

Effective immediately, the Commonwealth is prepared to deploy the McQuaide Self Defense Force in defense of Rotovia. Should the Rotovian government request, McQuaide is prepared to deploy Naval, Air, Marine, and Army forces to assist in the defense of the Rotovian people.
United Korean Nations
27-06-2004, 03:21
"the UKN Will stand by Rotovia until they request that they do not want help, or the Death of our very Nation."

~Commander-in-Cheif Of the Military, Elui Rigax
Grenval
27-06-2004, 03:33
Although both sides give compelling arguments, as there are many people whom Grenval whishes to please that are siding with Rotovia, Grenval must agree with McQuaid that no international civil rights abuses have been violated and that the laws of Rotovia are clearly defined to deal with this matter. So therefore Grenval will stand with Rotovia. However, we personally condeem the death penalty, I cannot violate your sovreignty. However, if this turns into genocide, Grenval will take the opposite stance. For now, Grenval sends no troops as you appear to will well defended and there are more pressing problems within the international community that require more attention.

Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs
Grenval City, Grenval
Neo-Soviet Russia
27-06-2004, 03:37
The United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia would again like to publically apologize for a 'jumping of the gun' and miswording when it comes to the situation at hand. We hope that the Constitutional Republic of Rotovia will accept our apology and forgive us.
Soviet leaders
27-06-2004, 05:23
We will take the prisoner gladly. Rotovia I will give you $20,000,000 if you do.(this is not a bribe)
i am not angest the death penitaly But you can give him life in prison
you do have a prison don't you. What is your death penitaly like gas chamber
?




i will take military actions as a last resort



:twisted: :twisted:
Dakara
27-06-2004, 05:58
Official statement from the Premier: "We are appaled that this man would be condemned for putting up posters, therefore, we officially condemn this action. We also mildy disapprove war threats made by other nations, as it will help nothing."


At a rally at Dakingrad square, thousands of dakarans gathered to burn Rotovian flags and symbols representing thier "divinity" , as per usual whenever a government commits atrocities. (it's what they do in dakingrad)
BLARGistania
27-06-2004, 06:01
hey look! another act of violence involving communists that wasn't started by commies. Now, where are those people who claim commies are the violent ones?
Aztec National League
27-06-2004, 06:02
The Aztec National League's response:

While we do not approve of actions that state threats, wheter they be empty or real, towards the lives of other people or the government, we also do not approve of the use of the dealth penatly in any case, but especially for someone using the right of free speech. We also disaprove of this action, mainly because the ANL is communist. We urge our long time allies of Rotovia to seek an alternative solution for two reasons...The communist community will make the man in question a maurder to the Revolutionary cause, which might jeopordize sitations in Rotovia and also, the communist international community will see Rotovia in a negative manner.

Plus, weren't all governments formed out of the activism and the eventual topplining of the former dominate power?

Premier Quetzalcoatl
Vice-Premier Coyotepec
Dr. Darius Wellington, Foriegn Affairs Minister
Jorge Arroyo, Soviet Represenative leader, Democratic Communist Party
-DPUANL
Dakara
27-06-2004, 06:04
hey look! another act of violence involving communists that wasn't started by commies. Now, where are those people who claim commies are the violent ones?

OOC:it really is interesting. you hardly ever see threads called "Capitalists to be executed" . and when communsits are executed nobody cares, but if someone was to execute a religious or ethnic group, there would be an uproar and governments from around the globe step in and save people. but hardly anyone stands up for the communists, except other communists.
BLARGistania
27-06-2004, 07:50
hey look! another act of violence involving communists that wasn't started by commies. Now, where are those people who claim commies are the violent ones?

OOC:it really is interesting. you hardly ever see threads called "Capitalists to be executed" . and when communsits are executed nobody cares, but if someone was to execute a religious or ethnic group, there would be an uproar and governments from around the globe step in and save people. but hardly anyone stands up for the communists, except other communists.

all too true, it may be time for me to hop onto this one for commies everywhere.
BLARGistania
27-06-2004, 08:29
The Utopic Proletarian republic of Blargistania condemns these actions in the strongest possible terms. The death penalty has long been seen as inhumane in our nation, and as such, has long been outlawed. The death penalty is no considered a crime against humanity within our nation as well, furthering its political implications. Since the rights of double jeopardy and freedom of speech were put in disregard during this case, the government of Blargistania would like to present the following:

~Rotovia be held accountable for their government's crimes in an international court sponsored by willing and impartial nations.

~Rotovia pay reprimads to the family of the executed.

~Rotovia outlaw the death penalty as a crime against humanity.

Note that all of these are suggestions placed before the international community on behalf of Blargistania. We will not force these measures upon anyone, but they are our alternatives to war. It is understood that the conspiracy to murder government officials is a serious crime, however, that crime is the only one we see the man guilty of, and that, according to Rotovia is not punishable by death. It is our government's hope that the international community take these ideas into consideration instead of the threat of war.
Penpusher Confederacy
27-06-2004, 08:38
(OOC: Not ONE execution in 300 years? How so? I'm not saying you should be Singapore, but you haven't executed ONE PERSON, whether for treason or murder?)

Penpusher Confederacy's Parliament voted whether this act should be officially condemned or not. The text in the bill to condemn your actions is:
The Constitutional Republic of Rotovia has no right to deny any person his or her freedom of speech, no matter how large that nation is or its position in international politics. These actions are illegal, for the reason being that no one has the right to take a man's life. The Government of Rotovia may have deported this Communist, but executing a man for treason due to his political beliefs is absurd.

Signed,
Thomas Hastings
Prime Minister of Penpusher Confederacy

First Lord of the Parliament


Results of Parliament vote:

Yes: 57%
No: 39%
Abstain: 4%
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 10:36
In his office at the Politburo building, Chairman Wahler scanned the papers..

"These damn Rotovians! Seeking ingenious ways to remove opposition. I can't understand their desire to make it the focus of international attention. Well.. if it's international attention they want, that's what they'll get..."

"Komrade Kustev, get me the Air Marshal on the phone..."

A few minutes later Air Marshal Vrezhnov and Chairman Wahler are discussing options..

"Well Chairman, we could most certainly move our new carrier the Komrade Ilyich Yagarin, though our air strike capability is some what limited from this as it is mostly for fleet protection..."

"So what would you suggest Air Marshal?"

"Personally, I would conduct a military exercise with forces from Long Range Aviation.. As you full well know, we have four squadrons on 24-hour alert.. We could send two of these towards Rotovian airspace.."

"And the chances of it causing others to attack us??"

"Well Chairman, as long as we make clear it is an exercise, then that will pretty much be all it is. Posturing. But, we can at least show the Rotovians that should they decide to go ahead with the execution, they can expect sudden and unexpected reaction from any quarter."

"Very well... Proceed Air Marshal. May fortune be with us"

"Very good, Chairman. I'll put contigency plan A23 in action. Hail Lasatania!"

"Hail!"

........



Two hours later, two pairs of LAS-B1 'Bloodstain' bombers took to the skies. They would meet with a refuelling squadron over the sea before moving towards Rotovian airspace... Lasatanian was about to enter the world stage..


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Aztec National League
27-06-2004, 11:31
Note to all nations threatning to wage war with Rotovia:

We ask that you stand down and do not wage war with Rotovia. Rotovia is a liberal nation and a very good nation. We do not approve of the actions they have taken, but I believe an execution of a political prisoner is grounds for appealing to the government to take an alternative course or at most a condemation...however, war is a bit of a stretch. Again, we disapprove of the situation in Rotovia, however, we can not let the ANL's ally be attacked.
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 11:32
[tag: preparing response]
Kanabia
27-06-2004, 11:39
Note to all nations threatning to wage war with Rotovia:

We ask that you stand down and do not wage war with Rotovia. Rotovia is a liberal nation and a very good nation. We do not approve of the actions they have taken, but I believe an execution of a political prisoner is grounds for appealing to the government to take an alternative course or at most a condemation...however, war is a bit of a stretch. Again, we disapprove of the situation in Rotovia, however, we can not let the ANL's ally be attacked.

We back this statement. War is unnecessary.
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 11:48
Announcement from InterLas:

Our proud armed forces are holding an annual exercise, testing the range and capability of the Air Force's Long Range Aviation wing. Air Marshal Vrezhnov addressing the 34th Conference of the Union of Defence Industry Workers.

'Komrades, as you may well be aware, there is much tension in the world this now. Many are seeking to destroy the seeds of socialism sown by us and other great nations. Rotovia, the capitalist parasite of a nation it is, has declared that it is to kill one of the communist party's leaders in that country. The allegations against him are spurious to say the least. And so, in order to deter them from this rather hasty decision, we have launched a military exercise, Red Anger, using aircraft from Long Range Aviation. The aircraft will proceed to a refuelling point, before flying towards the Rotovian coast and then following along the coast for a distance before returning to base. We must stress, that this is little more than an exercise, though we hope it may dissuade this nation from its reckless course of action. "
Kanabia
27-06-2004, 11:54
Diplomatic Letter to Lasatania

We believe that your recent choice to conduct a military exercise off the coast of Rotovia is ill advised. Rotovia is a far more powerful nation than yours, and such an action could possibly spark conflict between your nations. If this eventuates, we would be hard pressed to maintain condemnation of the actions of Rotovia, and it would be extremely difficult to pull your nation out of the mess it would have landed in.

We urge you to show more restraint in the future.
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 12:36
****Message to Group Captain Zeronovsky****

Captain, new orders are detailed below.

Continue on course until 150km from Rotovian coast. At this point 23432165-23345654, turn to heading 90 degrees away from target. Meet with refuelling group at location Arkangelsk and return to base following refuelling.


Exercise is cancelled. Repeat. Cancelled. Return as per instructions.


LRACOM

****End of Message****
Rotovia
27-06-2004, 14:33
"The International Community is reminded that an impartial Court unamiously voted to execute a murderer. His political orienatation is irrelivant to our Courts and will not be considered, the convicted criminal has no definitive links to the Communist Party. However, did post notices inidcated a violent intent to harm the state prior to, and after, commiting acts of murder against senior state figures. It is for this crime alone that he is charged.

Furthermore, any aircraft, naval vessel or other item under the command of a foreign armed forces found in or near Rotovian waters will be fired upon. We will maintain our soveriengty in the face of tyranny with unrestrained defence, and the through the peace and if need be sword of the Rotovian People"

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Kelonian States
27-06-2004, 14:36
To all nations threatening war with Rotovia, we disagree with attacking a whole nation due to them performing a (relatively) minor ction legal in their nation;

While we disagree with the death penalty being bestowed on one man, we even further disagree with offensive action in an attempt to stop it. The chance of more than one person dying in a military action to stop the execution of one man is extremely high, and we will defend Rotovia in order to make sure nothing penetrates their borders or airspace if they so request.

Let's try to keep this peaceful, shall we?
The Fedral Union
27-06-2004, 14:37
:shock:
Letila
27-06-2004, 14:47
Let's try to keep this peaceful, shall we?

Tell that to Rotovia. We aren't the ones executing people. The Letilan Confederation is holding a vote on what to do. The results will be in soon.

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Rotovia
27-06-2004, 14:47
"A Stay of Execution was today issued by the President, it will come into effect immediatly and whilst it will not prevent the execution of Mr Heartings it will give us time to explain more clearly to the international community why the perticular sentence was used and enforced by our Courts"

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Letila
27-06-2004, 15:04
The results:

For rescue-1.4 billion
Against-200 million
Abstain-30 million

The fleet has received the results and is preparing to land troops.

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Generic empire
27-06-2004, 17:06
Emperor Vladimir Kreschnev read the report on the developing situation.

"My God," he muttered. "The whole damn world has gone mad. Does the death of one man warrant the death of thousands?" He sighed deeply.

"Alice, get the president of Rotovia on the line." A small red phone was handed to the Emperor.

"Mr. President, we see very clearly what is happening and know that the pending invasion is simply an excuse to spread communism. We cannot condone this as a people, and if it comes to war will you have our forces fight alongside yours?"

The Emperor waited for a response.
Kelonian States
27-06-2004, 18:15
To the President of Rotovia:

While we tend to disagree with the death penalty, as you have given this man a stay of execution and made decent, honourable attempts to ensure a fair and just decision, we do not wish to see more trigger-happy nations invading you based on one ill-thought-out decision.

If you wish, we would be willing to put together a military force to prevent an invasion of your country. We await your response...
Neo-Soviet Russia
27-06-2004, 18:31
The United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia asks that all nations preparing or on the move to conduct war pause and think of their actions. As many have said, does the death of one man mean that thousands more have to die? No. I ask that nations planning to take offensive action hold . If nothing more atleast allow the nation of Rotovia to explain more, seeing as the execution has been pushed back partly to do that very thing.
DontPissUsOff
27-06-2004, 18:33
OOC: Yes. I think a quick bit of testing, comrades. There'll be a new topic in a few minutes.

IC: We condemn this and all that, not that we're gonna do anything about it or anything. Just don't send anybody over here with the same objective.
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 18:57
[code:1:c4b3050420]
******Encoded Message******

To: Commander, Rotovian Armed Forces
From: Director of Operations, External Security Bureau

At approximately 1740 hours a McQuaide signals intelligence satellite copied the following message broadcast by the Letilan government. Follow-up satellite imagery has confirmed Letilan fleet activity.

The Commonwealth of McQuaide stands by its decision to help defend Rotovian sovereignty. As of 1800 hours, the McQuaide Home Fleet has been ordered to sail at best speed to Rotovia. They will assume a guard position 85 miles off your shore, and will stand by to intercept any invasion force.

Diplomatic channels are at this moment attempting to resolve this crisis without violence. With luck, this will be resolved without any loss of life.[/code:1:c4b3050420]

The results:

For rescue-1.4 billion
Against-200 million
Abstain-30 million

The fleet has received the results and is preparing to land troops.


OOC: I assume the above was meant as an open declaration.



Ministry of State Press Release

It has come to the attention of the McQuaide government that the Letilan government has ordered its fleet to sail for Rotovian waters with the intention of intervening in the internal operations of the Rotovian government. The case in question is an internal issue, yet the Rotovian government has shown itself willing to delay its actions to allow diplomatic dialogue.

The Commonwealth of McQuaide calls upon the Letilian government to stop the movement of its fleet, and allow for a diplomatic solution. Should the Letilan government fail to do so, the Commonwealth will act to help defend Rotovian sovereignty.
Soviet leaders
27-06-2004, 19:53
I WILL GLADLY TAKE HIM. YOU COULD DEPORT HIM TO MY NATION IF YOU WANT WE WILL SEND A SHIP. then maybe all of the threats against your nation might go away



i will have a vote of the people choices: War,only if a other nations go to war,
no seek a paceful solution.





:D :D :D :D :D
Knight Of The Round
27-06-2004, 19:55
Don't back down to threats. You have your own laws so stick up for them.
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 20:31
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 20:31
McQuaide Deployment List

During the hours and days after the announcement by McQuaide of its intent to defend Rotovia, the following forces are deployed to defensive positions off the Rotovian terrotorial waters. ((OOC: Please post how you come about the intel if you decide to use this info IC))

On Alert to Deploy:
6x Corps Support Brigades
Marine Division
Composite Airborne Division
2x Mechanized Division
2x Motor Rifle Division
Special Operations Air Regiment
Reinforced Mechanized Brigade Combat Team
Reinforced Airmobile Brigade Combat Team
Light Infantry Brigade (Special Forces)
Reserve Medical Support Brigade
Reserve SSM Brigade
2x Airborne Motor Rifle Brigade Combat Team
Marine Light Mechanized Infantry Brigade Combat Team

2x Reserve Air Mobility Wing
4x Reserve Airlift Wing
Reserve Air Refueling Wing
Reserve Composite Command Wing
2x Reinforced Composite Air Wing
Heavy Bomber Wing
Fighter Wing
Special Operations Wing
Strike Fighter Wing

2x Amphibious Ready Groups

2x Prepositioning And Logistics Support Groups



Naval Forces Deployed for Rotovian Defense:

2x Surface Action Groups

2x Carrier Battle Groups

Special Forces Command Boat Squadron

2x Shore Control Squadrons
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 20:32
McQuaide
27-06-2004, 20:36
EDIT: Double post
Soviet leaders
27-06-2004, 21:33
i stand my ground if it does become WAR then i will back my comrades up.

i have on alert
3 fleets of subs ready ( 50 subs each) (docked)

12 fleets on stanby


4 fleets are in active duty
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 22:08
Lasatania
27-06-2004, 22:08
BLARGistania
28-06-2004, 00:43
i stand my ground if it does become WAR then i will back my comrades up.

i have on alert
3 fleets of subs ready ( 50 subs each) (docked)

12 fleets on stanby


4 fleets are in active duty

thats a lot of subs. . . .

I stand with the ANL on this though. War should be averted.
Generic empire
28-06-2004, 02:38
Official Imperial Statement

Brothers of the International community, I call upon you one last time to cease this behavior before you commit a crime that I fear humanity shall never forgive. You are acting like children with your warlike ways. Do you not realise that millions of people will die today if you attack Rotovia? Alas, I fear that you do not see this. I will beg of you once more to, for the love of God, demobilize your forces heading for Rotovia. Letila, you sicken me with your perverse logic that one man's life warrants the end of millions of others. I only hope that you will see the light in this eleventh hour, and manage to avoid calamity.
-Emperor Vladimir Kreschnev
DontPissUsOff
28-06-2004, 02:41
Alright, this has gone far enough. If anyone attacks Rotovia then they will be opposed with force my our nation, and vice-versa. Back off, everyone.
Generic empire
28-06-2004, 02:47
Emperor Kreschnev sat staring at his desk. This was getting out of hand. Letilla would never back down. They were a fanatical anarchist state. They could not be reasoned with. He picked up the phone with a direct lind to his minister of defense's office.

"Jack, I believe we may have to respond. Ready the second and third divisions of the Praetorian guard, and get some C-130's ready. If this keeps up much longer, make sure they're ready to go."

Kreschnev hung up the phone. Only time would tell.

--Military forces ready to deploy--
30,000 Praetorian guard members (Special forces, but mainly combat specialists.)
DontPissUsOff
28-06-2004, 02:49
OOC: Rotovia, you want any help of any kind TG me. I'm off to bed now, hope this don't get out of hand eh?
Letila
28-06-2004, 02:51
Brothers of the International community, I call upon you one last time to cease this behavior before you commit a crime that I fear humanity shall never forgive. You are acting like children with your warlike ways. Do you not realise that millions of people will die today if you attack Rotovia? Alas, I fear that you do not see this. I will beg of you once more to, for the love of God, demobilize your forces heading for Rotovia. Letila, you sicken me with your perverse logic that one man's life warrants the end of millions of others. I only hope that you will see the light in this eleventh hour, and manage to avoid calamity.

All opponents of authority are our friends. Would you allow a nation to execute a friend of yours?

Besides, this will be a quick operation. We will go in and rescue the communists and be gone.

It has come to the attention of the McQuaide government that the Letilan government has ordered its fleet to sail for Rotovian waters with the intention of intervening in the internal operations of the Rotovian government. The case in question is an internal issue, yet the Rotovian government has shown itself willing to delay its actions to allow diplomatic dialogue.

The Commonwealth of McQuaide calls upon the Letilian government to stop the movement of its fleet, and allow for a diplomatic solution. Should the Letilan government fail to do so, the Commonwealth will act to help defend Rotovian sovereignty.

There is no government in Letila, only a directly democratic council. If the council went against the will of the people, to rescue the communists, they would be recalled and replaced. They are strictly to coördinate.

We would also prefer if countries would stop hiding behind national sovereignty to justify what comes dangerously close to fascism.

Emperor Kreschnev sat staring at his desk. This was getting out of hand. Letilla would never back down. They were a fanatical anarchist state. They could not be reasoned with. He picked up the phone with a direct lind to his minister of defense's office.

There isn't such a thing as an anarchist state. Why is everyone condoning the execution of a political prisoner?

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UnHoly Rage
28-06-2004, 02:52
We send in 1.6 million troops to defend the wonderful country who executed a commie. We will destroy ANY oncoming pro Communist / Socialist force that shows hostility. Our population is 1.5 billion. Do not mess with us. And, on another note, you self righteous neo communist assholes are hypocritical turds. A country kills one man so you send in your troops, thus risking THEIR lives, and creating more death. You idiots are answering an isolated case of one prick getting killed with bringing about more death. If that is what you want, so be it.
Letila
28-06-2004, 03:06
The council has unanimously decided to withdraw the fleet. If they aren't recalled and replaced, then the decision will have been showned to be excepted by the people.

Nonetheless, we are curious as to why everyone is so eager to defend the "right" of this nation to execute people.

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Conrado
28-06-2004, 03:17
We also send in troops to defend the county. We send in 20,000 submarines to create a perimeter around the country, and to allow none to enter or leave who is not allied. We will also send in aid in the form of money, food, and meds if the violence gets out of hand. If the perimeter is penetrated, we will rush in 2.4 million troops that are on high alert. They will be armed with full body armor, balistic shields, and MP5 A4 SMGs, and Desert Eagle .50 cal pistols. The heavy troops, (the other half) will have G36C Assault Rifles, Desert Eagles, and M40 frag grenades, as well as tear gas grenades. We will join our longtime ally of UnHoly Rage in struggle against communism. We also have a very large population, almost 2 billion.
DontPissUsOff
28-06-2004, 03:20
OOC: 20,000 submarines?!! Jesus Christ almighty! How can you afford 20,000 of those when the USSR could only afford about a twentieth of that number, devoting about a quarter of its' defence budget to them in the process?

IC: We urge all concerned nations to leave Rotovia in peace. We are Communists, but Rotovia must regulate her own affairs.
Generic empire
28-06-2004, 03:22
Vladimir Kreschnev heaved a sigh of relief, letting out the breath he had been holding since this ordeal began.

"Thank God, oh thank God."

There were no cheers or applause to accompany this victory, and the only reward was the knowledge that a great catastrophe had been narrowly avoided. Kreschnev poured himself a shot of fine scotch from a bottle that he kept under his desk for these occasions, drained it, and went to bed.
Conrado
28-06-2004, 03:24
We do not want war, but when we are faced with a moral dilemma, we will do what is necessary and right. It is our policy to give financial aid to a country that we damaged in war, as well as pay for the funeral of every single soldier we killed, and to build a monument in their home country to honor them. We provide workers to rebuild, and doctors for the wounded. This costs a lot, but it is worth it to partially undo the pain of war.
Letila
28-06-2004, 03:27
Good news. It seems that despite plenty of opportunity, the people have recalled only a few delegates and there's no sign they will recall any more. The fleet is withdrawing.

One of the delegates, G!éstaèla ti-P’orìxme has this to say:

"It was truely intense for those few hours, but if you ask me, sometimes you have to push things to the edge to get things done. We had to show Rotovia that we were ready to do what ever it took to defend freedom and I hope they learned a valuable lesson."

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