NationStates Jolt Archive

Whittier has begun pouring 200 billion dollars into Magdha to build new schools, hospitals, roads, rebuild the police, military, powerplants. We seek to have the utilities on and available to every Magdhan with in 7 months.
We are also providing business loans for Magdhans that want to start their businesses. Children under 16 are being provided with free health care. Doctors who refuse to give medical care to anyone who is injured are having their medical licenses revoked. And private property ownership is being encouraged.
Churches, mosques, temples, and museums and other places of cultural interest are also being rebuilt. Little league teams for baseball and football and soccer are being established with Whittier funds for Magdhan children. THe arts and sciences are being encouraged as worthy pursuits.
With the exception of the area around Bombay, the entire land is being demined by Whittier troops.
We are also in the process of writing an interim constitution for Magdha.
More proof of the superiority of the Union of People's Republics policies in India over those of Northwestern Liang.

Local councils are being appointed by Whittier officials and elections will be held in the future.

The Confederacy Government disapproves of any sort of military occupation no matter what the intentions of said military. Thus, we cannot form an opinion over this matter.

Whittier is now building new universities in India, Kashmir, Celebes, and Burma.

The Confederacy Government disapproves of any sort of military occupation no matter what the intentions of said military. Thus, we cannot form an opinion over this matter.
Magdha started a war, for its protection we took over. We are rebuilding their nation and will give it back in the future better than we found it.

We find such an ambiguous promise to be alarming, and we call for Whittier to give a definite date of when they will quit the country.

ooc: I must have missed this. Did you take over him? Good riddance. Sounds like you're doing a good job anyway

ooc: I must have missed this. Did you take over him? Good riddance. Sounds like you're doing a good job anyway

OOC:

Basically, Magdha was about to get his invaded by about 20 nation his size and larger. He accepted status as a satellite nation of Whittier to avoid an ass kicking of epic proportions.

ooc: Ah, thanks. Magdha was an enemy of mine so I wish I had gotten involved :)

IC: We wish to inquire whether Magdha will be remaining a member of the Anti-Communist Alliance?

We do not understand why you are helping them with your own resources. Why not just exterminate them all and claim the land as your own?

Maybe because that would be "wrong". Just a wild guess.

Wrong according to your unusual morals. Which we also do not understand. Everything you do must take five times as long as is necessary because the shortcuts are 'just wrong'.

if you help me build a couple hospitals i will help u with anything u want

Will this government be pro-Whittler? :wink:

ooc:Will the final government be a constitutional monarchy like the UK?

I for one would like an update on the demilitarisation of Magdha. This was one of, if not the, most important issues that prevented the Council of Air Powers from beginning a unilateral military action against Magdha. There are those who would still choose to invade if Magdha is not restructured in a way that they find agreeable.

Granzian peacekeepers in Celebes have begun stabilizing the island and restoring order. The police and administrative services have been restored and is fuctioning under the protection of the civil administrator. The running water, sewage, and electricity has been restored to most households, and construction teams are laying down these in areas lacking. Magdhan ex-soldiers and settlers who chose to return to Magdha will be taken back on a pair of transports due to dock in Calcutta in 4 NS days. (OOC: Magdha took Celebes as a colony.) Any armed gangs that have sprouted since the collapse of the Magdha government are being disarmed for the sake of order.

ooc: Ah, thanks. Magdha was an enemy of mine so I wish I had gotten involved :)

IC: We wish to inquire whether Magdha will be remaining a member of the Anti-Communist Alliance?
Maghda is now under the occupation of a socialist nation, the Union of People's Republics. As such, any ties with alliances that are antisocialist are null and void.
Remember, Magdha became a sattalite nation of his own accord. He asked to be one.

Secret- Communist Mississippi Mafia organizations are attempting to set up arms smuggling because they believe it will be a lucrative business to smuggle arms to gangs in Maghda.

Right now there are 18 ships that have accepted bribes to haul the mafia cargo.

Each ship has approximately

3,000 M-14 rifles
1,000 M67 Fragmentation Hand Grenade
40 Stinger shoulder launched SAMs
50 M-249 SAW
30 Milan AT
100 M82A1A .50 Caliber Special Application Scoped Rifle
500 M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
And several tons of munitions.

The ships were large merchant ships, hauling a host of items, steel, iron ore, automobiles, food supplies, etc, the captains had been well paid to smuggle the mafia weapons onto their ships and conceal them throughout the ship. The weapons were to be sold to local gangs in Magdha, the gangs would be fighting each other as they attempted to fill the power vacuum that would certainly exist now that Magdhan government forces were so weak.

The mafia was going to make a killing selling weapons to the competing gangs.


The ships would be entering Magdhan water's soons. The capains were growing nervous, but they were smart men and the weapons were basically needles in a haystack.

We do not understand why you are helping them with your own resources. Why not just exterminate them all and claim the land as your own?
Genocide is illegal in Whittier and so is torture and slavery. Even abortion is illegal. In accordance, we can not allow this in nations we occupy.
Our goal is a more peaceful and more prosperous Magdha that will join the community of nations as a positive contributer, not as someone who has a grudge and will likely start more wars.
Of course, even after we give it back, Magdha will remain a member of the Whittier Pact. That much will be nonnegotiable.
This way, we will have the right to intervene if he does something like support terrorists or engage in genocide against his own people.

The fact of the matter is, Maghda is not population-wise big enough to control so much territory...

I for one would like an update on the demilitarisation of Magdha. This was one of, if not the, most important issues that prevented the Council of Air Powers from beginning a unilateral military action against Magdha. There are those who would still choose to invade if Magdha is not restructured in a way that they find agreeable.
Actually we were hoping Great Mateo would be willing to assist in this demilitarization.
Whittier has already allocated 12 billion dollars toward job retraining to help ex soldiers of the Magdhan armed forces find civilian jobs.
But we do need assistance. A former soldier with a job is less likely to join rebellions or terror groups than one who is unemployed cause all he knows is killing.

Will this government be pro-Whittler? :wink:
Yes

ooc:Will the final government be a constitutional monarchy like the UK?
We'll work that by tg.
But officially, Whittier will be setting up a socialist government in Magdha.
After that, the Magdhans can do what they want to a limit.

Secret- Communist Mississippi Mafia organizations are attempting to set up arms smuggling because they believe it will be a lucrative business to smuggle arms to gangs in Maghda.

Right now there are 18 ships that have accepted bribes to haul the mafia cargo.

Each ship has approximately

3,000 M-14 rifles
1,000 M67 Fragmentation Hand Grenade
40 SA-17 shoulder launched SAMs
50 M-249 SAW
30 Milan AT
100 M82A1A .50 Caliber Special Application Scoped Rifle
500 M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
And several tons of munitions.

The ships were large merchant ships, hauling a host of items, steel, iron ore, automobiles, food supplies, etc, the captains had been well paid to smuggle the mafia weapons onto their ships and conceal them throughout the ship. The weapons were to be sold to local gangs in Magdha, the gangs would be fighting each other as they attempted to fill the power vacuum that would certainly exist now that Magdhan government forces were so weak.

The mafia was going to make a killing selling weapons to the competing gangs.


The ships would be entering Magdhan water's soons. The capains were growing nervous, but they were smart men and the weapons were basically needles in a haystack.

All ships going into Magdhan ports are being thoroughly searched as there are several outside governments and nongovernment groups that would like to take advantage of the situation to try to voment turmoil, violence, and chaos in Magdha.
Though the Magdhan government has colllapsed, Whittier is in control.
Further, all ships must have the necessary permits to dock.

The fact of the matter is, Maghda is not population-wise big enough to control so much territory...
Your population doesn't matter when it comes to how much territory you can have.
Most of China's population is concentrated in 4 of its biggest cities.
And Russia has a much smaller pop than China, yet Russia has way more land than China does.

Secret- Communist Mississippi Mafia organizations are attempting to set up arms smuggling because they believe it will be a lucrative business to smuggle arms to gangs in Maghda.

Right now there are 18 ships that have accepted bribes to haul the mafia cargo.

Each ship has approximately

3,000 M-14 rifles
1,000 M67 Fragmentation Hand Grenade
40 SA-17 shoulder launched SAMs
50 M-249 SAW
30 Milan AT
100 M82A1A .50 Caliber Special Application Scoped Rifle
500 M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
And several tons of munitions.

The ships were large merchant ships, hauling a host of items, steel, iron ore, automobiles, food supplies, etc, the captains had been well paid to smuggle the mafia weapons onto their ships and conceal them throughout the ship. The weapons were to be sold to local gangs in Magdha, the gangs would be fighting each other as they attempted to fill the power vacuum that would certainly exist now that Magdhan government forces were so weak.

The mafia was going to make a killing selling weapons to the competing gangs.


The ships would be entering Magdhan water's soons. The capains were growing nervous, but they were smart men and the weapons were basically needles in a haystack.

All ships going into Magdhan ports are being thoroughly searched as there are several outside governments and nongovernment groups that would like to take advantage of the situation to try to voment turmoil, violence, and chaos in Magdha.
Though the Magdhan government has colllapsed, Whittier is in control.
Further, all ships must have the necessary permits to dock.


The ships are just going to stop right outside of Magdhan waters, and wait until night, then they are going to use small "Fast boats" to take the cargo little by little and zoom to private beaches where the gangs are waiting. It's a standard drug dealer technique.


By the way, the value of the weapons cargo.


18 x 3,000 M14s = $31,104,000 (Each $576)
18 x 1,000 Hand Grenades= $360,000 (Each $20)
18 x 500 M1911A1 pistols = $2,178,000 (Each $242)
18 x 100 M82A1A Rifles = $10,800,000 (Each $6,000)
18 x 50 M249 SAW= $3,678,300 (Each $4,087)
18 x 30 Milan AT= $19,200,000 (Each $8,000)
18 x 40 Stinger Missiles = $4,320,000,000 (Each $6,000,000)

Total value $4,387,320,300

I do support Whittier in this situation. I do wish to know if the government now is still anti-civil right advocates and funders of terrorism?

Well considering the fact that Maghda has pretty much godmodded his way through much of the territory he now claims, the Five Civilized Nations will ignore Whittier's occupation of Maghda, along with Maghda's claims of control of much of Southeastern Asia...

All ships going into Magdhan ports are being thoroughly searched as there are several outside governments and nongovernment groups that would like to take advantage of the situation to try to voment turmoil, violence, and chaos in Magdha.
Though the Magdhan government has colllapsed, Whittier is in control.
Further, all ships must have the necessary permits to dock.



The mafia spent lots of time and money procuring the weapons, if you offer them generous bribes to turn back, I'm sure they'd accept.

Muktar commends Whittier for going about their accupation of Magdha in a humane and benevolent manner. We wish to show our support by offering an embassic exchange to the Whittier government.

Well considering the fact that Maghda has pretty much godmodded his way through much of the territory he now claims, the Five Civilized Nations will ignore Whittier's occupation of Maghda, along with Maghda's claims of control of much of Southeastern Asia...

For instance, check out this thread, here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154837&highlight=).

I do support Whittier in this situation. I do wish to know if the government now is still anti-civil right advocates and funders of terrorism?
For the time being, the laws of Whittier apply in Magdha.
Civil rights are being promoted and the entire council of gurus was arrested and disbanded after we learned they were fomenting terror groups.
After these arrests terrorism in Magdha came to an end.

Muktar commends Whittier for going about their accupation of Magdha in a humane and benevolent manner. We wish to show our support by offering an embassic exchange to the Whittier government.
Whittier accepts and requests assistance in retraining former Madhan soldiers for civilian life.

Well considering the fact that Maghda has pretty much godmodded his way through much of the territory he now claims, the Five Civilized Nations will ignore Whittier's occupation of Maghda, along with Maghda's claims of control of much of Southeastern Asia...

For instance, check out this thread, here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154837&highlight=).

You've made your statement now move on. It's not going to affect anything here.

Well, I haven't made my point yet...

Okay, here's my point, Magdha does not control all the territory in which you claim your rebuilding... This means, you could either screw this RP or you could decrease your claims...

Muktar will send whatever assistence in retraining Whittier considers reasonable.

Whittier is not doing a good job in Magdhan standards, however, Grenval agrees with Whittier as usual.

Well, I haven't made my point yet...

Okay, here's my point, Magdha does not control all the territory in which you claim your rebuilding... This means, you could either screw this RP or you could decrease your claims...Look, I control those lands cause everyone in this rp told me that Magdha owned or conquered them. So I inherited them.
Now stop trolling.

I for one would like an update on the demilitarisation of Magdha. This was one of, if not the, most important issues that prevented the Council of Air Powers from beginning a unilateral military action against Magdha. There are those who would still choose to invade if Magdha is not restructured in a way that they find agreeable.
Actually we were hoping Great Mateo would be willing to assist in this demilitarization.
Whittier has already allocated 12 billion dollars toward job retraining to help ex soldiers of the Magdhan armed forces find civilian jobs.
But we do need assistance. A former soldier with a job is less likely to join rebellions or terror groups than one who is unemployed cause all he knows is killing.

As suggested earlier, I believe it would be best to reinvest the revenue received from the sale of no longer needed military equipment into the education of the now jobless soldiers. Given an inventory of Magdhan military supplies to be sold, I'm sure that buyers could easily be found and the items sold via Great Matean Industries. If needed, the massive amount of money this would generate could be augmented by Matean foreign aid grants.

-Mateo McGrath, President, the Armed Dominion of Great Mateo

I do support Whittier in this situation. I do wish to know if the government now is still anti-civil right advocates and funders of terrorism?
For the time being, the laws of Whittier apply in Magdha.
Civil rights are being promoted and the entire council of gurus was arrested and disbanded after we learned they were fomenting terror groups.
After these arrests terrorism in Magdha came to an end.

That is certainly good news.