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Christians drowned! 1,000,000 dead already!

Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 06:39
All relevancy is here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151747&highlight=)

Behind the blockade breakers followed a fleet of trawlers - trawlers with a deadly cargo. At the shore, thousands of Christians had been rounded up and stuffed inside the trawlers holds.

The death-ships steamed ahead as the navy came to a halt, and in the clear view of the blockaders began their deadly work. Red Army soldiers, beigh fatigues and caps soaking up heat like a sponge, the rising sun shining down on them, dragged out scores of christians, and chained them to one another. They were flung down into the sea, anchors helping their descent with a deadly whfooo of the water.

And it continued - the strugglers were shot, and some tried to jump overboard, but they were met with cries of
Ai Chriztan! Szoot! Szoot!
PPsH bullets sprayed the water as the blood of the doomed persecuted spurted.

Noone stopped to think. Noone stopped to consider the consequences. It was murder. Sheer murder.
Kisogo
24-06-2004, 06:40
Murder, yet not as bad as murder of someone of a different religion.
Kisogo
24-06-2004, 06:41
I mean, stop!
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 06:48
The cameraman filmed it all, smoothly. The figures thrown to their deaths. The Red Army soldiers gunning down escapees. And to top it off, bibles being thrown down with the victims, riddled with bullet holes. The cameraman, a christian himself, would show the world. Show them what blatant Nazism, what blatant butchery this nation has commited today. Hopefully someone would intervene...but then in this nation what else can a christian do but hope? And of course, pray.
Communist Mississippi
24-06-2004, 06:49
what blatant Nazism, what blatant [b]butchery

You mean Blatant marxism. You're a marxist nation aren't you?
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 06:51
No. Semi-Maoist. Turning Fascist.
Dontgonearthere
24-06-2004, 06:58
Dontgonearthere condems your actions, and would act if it werent for an upcoming war with Credonia. No doubt after this unpleasant buisness with Swedish Dominions he will come to your aide spouting 'But what right do you have to invade?'

OOC:
IC remarks only, my staff get emotional sometimes.
imported_ViZion
24-06-2004, 06:59
ViZion demands that this genocide cease, or ViZion will get involved. Hogsworth, I hope I will not have to go after you over genocide, as we were allies, but I will not stand for genocide.

Again, ViZion demands the genocide ends. If you cannot figure anything else to do with them, we will accept them, we will even transport them. But, we demand you stop the genocide.
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 07:25
To ViZion
From Hogsweatian Government
Genocide? We see, nor hear of any genocide committed in or around Hogsweat. Please reconsider your information before contacting us.
Belem
24-06-2004, 07:29
The Holy Imperial Empire of Belem offers Hogsweat the following Ultamatium:

1. Immediately cease the kill of all Christains and Catholics
2. The Government recognize Catholicism and all mainstream sects of Christainity as legal religions.
3. Hogsweat pay 6 trillion dollars to Belem in reperations for there actions and for the cost of mobilizing the fleet.

If you do not accept these demands we will be forced to destroy you slowly and painfully. That is all

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Three Imperial Fleets and 2 submarine wolfpacks plus additional support craft are in route to Hogsweat waters.
Chatamaran
24-06-2004, 07:31
OOC please see the other topics sorry your a little late things are already in action however as one of the leaders of the military opposition(self appointed lol) we would appreciate your fleet be put in the waters around and that any sf you have infiltrate and attempt to remain unnoticed
Whittier
24-06-2004, 07:31
Whittier condemns this genocide, but as Hogsweat has not signed the Whittier Convention we cannot hold them accountable.
We advise all Whittierites to avoid traveling to or through Hogsweat.
Further, we are imposing a ban on steel imports from Hogsweat.
WestUkraine
24-06-2004, 07:37
WestUkraine
24-06-2004, 07:48
Hogsweat, WestUkraine will not stand for the mass murder of innocents. Due to this incident, WestUkraine is officialyl declaring Hogsweat an enemy of humanity. The WestUkraine military is mobilizing for full action against the nation of Hogsweat, as we cannot just simply ignore what you have done already.

Your government has only once choice, and that is to step down voluntarily. Otherwise, WestUkraine will move in and forceibly remove it from power.
Whittier
24-06-2004, 08:09
Hogsweat, WestUkraine will not stand for the mass murder of innocents. Due to this incident, WestUkraine is officialyl declaring Hogsweat an enemy of humanity. The WestUkraine military is mobilizing for full action against the nation of Hogsweat, as we cannot just simply ignore what you have done already.

Your government has only once choice, and that is to step down voluntarily. Otherwise, WestUkraine will move in and forceibly remove it from power.
ARe you still a member of the Whittier Pact?
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 08:14
Again, we repeat, we are not comitting genocide.
Belem, we aren't scared of you.
imported_Furbs
24-06-2004, 09:00
how can you say that killing christians is not genocide? try looking it up in the dictionary! the Rouge Nation of Furbs will not stand for any nation killing christians and will attack if nessasary!
Northwestern Liang
24-06-2004, 09:10
OOC: Genocide is killing on the basis of race. This is killing on the basis of religion. YOU need to look in the dictionary.
Whittier
24-06-2004, 09:13
OOC: Genocide is killing on the basis of race. This is killing on the basis of religion. YOU need to look in the dictionary.
genocide

in international law, the intentional and systematic destruction, wholly or in part, by a government of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.

from the encyclopedia.
Northwestern Liang
24-06-2004, 09:16
gen·o·cide ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jn-sd)
n.
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

From Greek genos, race
Pedaphiliac
24-06-2004, 09:18
then what hitler did was in fact, not genocide.
Northwestern Liang
24-06-2004, 09:19
Yes it was. The Jews are a race and a religion.
Macisikan
24-06-2004, 09:19
genocide

in international law, the intentional and systematic destruction, wholly or in part, by a government of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.

from the encyclopedia.

OOC: He's right. Under International Law, genocide includes the extermination of large numbers of people based on their religion.
Whittier
24-06-2004, 09:19
from encyclopedia brittanica:

the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race. The term, derived from the Greek genos (“race,” “tribe,” or “nation”) and the Latin cide (“killing”), was coined by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish-born jurist who served as an adviser to the U.S. Department of War during World War II.
Northwestern Liang
24-06-2004, 09:21
Dictionary does not include religion, and why should it. It means, literally, the killing of a race, tribe, or nation.
Whittier
24-06-2004, 09:21
which dictionary are you using?
Macisikan
24-06-2004, 09:24
Dictionary does not include religion, and why should it. It means, literally, the killing of a race, tribe, or nation.

The dictionary definition is rarely the same as the legal definition.
And I believe it the legal term that Furbs is using.
WestUkraine
24-06-2004, 10:26
[OOC: Ok, forget the definitions. Let's go using the Genocide Treaty..

Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

That clear it all up?]
WestUkraine
24-06-2004, 10:29
[OOC: And if you want the source, the source is from http://www.preventgenocide.org/law/convention/text.htm#II ]
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 11:28
Wow. Way to hijack a thread.
Latinsbury
24-06-2004, 11:29
Latinsbury is opening its doors to any Christian refugees looking to oppression.
Hogsweat
24-06-2004, 11:49
ICly, the government doesnt know the reporter got the info.

[quote="Belem"]The Holy Imperial Empire of Belem offers Hogsweat the following Ultamatium:

1. Immediately cease the kill of all Christains and Catholics
2. The Government recognize Catholicism and all mainstream sects of Christainity as legal religions.
3. Hogsweat pay 6 trillion dollars to Belem in reperations for there actions and for the cost of mobilizing the fleet.


To Belem
From: Hogsweatian Government
1.) We are not killing Christians. Where did you get that idea from?
2.) We refuse.
3.) We refuse.
imported_Furbs
24-06-2004, 20:43
well who cares wot the dictionary or encyclopidia says it is still wrong and any cristian that wants to escape you (which will be most if you are killing them) will be helped to do so by us!!
Latinsbury
24-06-2004, 20:59
*The whipping noise of the blades of a Latinanarian Chinook helocopter beat and echo against the rippling water below as it heads towards the steaming ship off in the horizen . The throttle is all the way and the cold-war era aircraft vibrates with years of decay and metal fatigue . But she works.

As the chinooks approaches the cargo frieighter that has been rumoured to be dumping the bodies of christians . The boat changes course drastically and crewmen scatter on the aft deck to doors located on the side of the main cabin. The wind violently rocks the craft as ropes roll out from the rear ramp . Fire from sub machine guns pepper the soft belly of the long akward aircraft . 5 mismatched soldiers repel down on to the deck . 1 smashes into the icy north pacific water. Assuring himself a agonizing death and a final end in Davey Jones Locker . Another one , the squad leader is hit with fire from a Soviet handgun . Two .38 slugs peirce his upper thigh one of them slicing open a main artery. He bleeds to death on a flight of stairs after hitting the deck. The three rookie marines regroup under withering fire. .....
Muktar
24-06-2004, 21:01
Kartun let the massacre feed into his digital camera. After he had sufficient evidense, he went back to his hotel the get his laptop. He was supposed to be here to do an analysis of the recent political changes in the nation, but this story would provide much more clarity.
Sybalia
24-06-2004, 21:26
Sorry, posting glitch.
Sybalia
24-06-2004, 21:29
The Czarina of Sybalia got the news of Latinsbury attacking Hogsweat on a mere accusation. After recieving news of an unwarranted religiously inspired attack, she sent word down the military chain of commmand, ordering mobilization of "Outer Reach" militaristic groups. Being a devoutly pagan/athiest nation, the governemnt was firmly against wars on a religious base, but more so than that, irrational attacks without true physical proof.


After the laborious extermination of Christianity, Judaisim, Islam, and other oppresive religons half a century ago from Sybalia, she'd be damned to let any other nations fall due to the religious loftiness of other nations. Whatever happened to negotiations? Well, logical ones, anyways....

She walked across the dimly lit courtyard to her library; the rays of the soft rising sunlight sparkling off of the dew like tiny crystals on the morning grass. Hearing a rustling noise in the shrubbery, she moved her hand instictively to the holster beneath her jacket. She walked more briskly, wondering if she were just paranoid, or if she were correct in her worry.

Suddenly, 3 men bearing crosses embroidered on their chest leapt out of the dark shrubbery, screaming "In the name of the Lahrd!!!! Die you heathen devul pagin yoo!" The Czarina fired at the charging, crazed men.

She caught one full in the chest, and a bullet glanced off of the leading idiot's leg. The guards posted on the walls fired down at them, killing off the 2 survivors before they could do her damage.

Judging by their clothing, accents, lack of bathing habits and blind faith, they were determined to be "Rednecks for Jesus". At first thought a group protesting for Mexican rights, it was soon found that they were really an underground religious group hidden in the nearly uninhabitable hills of Sybalia, the last of the resistance left. Normally kept up in the hills by electric fences and dish soap, it was a wonder they had gotten so far...

"Perhaps Hogsbreath was fighting the rebels... perhaps they went psycho in the name of the "Lahrd" (aka Lord,Jesus,Holy Spirit, etc,) and tried to overtake the government. I need to know the whole story. "she thought aloud.

The Czarina left the scene for her office to type up a much needed telegram to Hogsweat.
Belem
24-06-2004, 21:32
We will put this very simply to the hogsweat government accept our demands or we will kill 10 of your citizens for every Christain you execute. The choice is yours.
Linuxosity
24-06-2004, 21:42
Belem, now you are being irrational and unreasonable just as Hogsweat may be. I summon the military force from my main nations (The Islands of Sysarba and Ganrork) to wage war on both of your nations unless stupidity is held at bay. Come to your senses! You sound like a middle eastern nation with all this spastic warring, wot?
Bayorta
24-06-2004, 22:04
Interesting.

Dark Terror was deleted when all he did was deport Muslims from his nation, yet when Christians are not just deported, but killed, persecuted and shamed the mods just sit back like nothing happened.

Is it just me, or is there a certain degree of bias in these forums?

EDIT: Mods - please tell me if you think otherwise.
Dollacorp
24-06-2004, 22:09
Instead of drowning them, why not turn them over to us? We can feed them into machines that recover the resources out of anything, in this case all the water and minerals and the like in the human body. You will get half of the resources back, we will get the other half. Fair?
Latinsbury
24-06-2004, 22:23
Lend me your ears my christian bretheren . Not only has the vile nation of Hogsweat mutilated and massacred countless christian brothers and sisters . They shot prisoners they caputred from one of Latinsbury's cargo helocopter. These people lack values , morals , decency. To Hell with HogSweat and all his kind .
Nianacio
24-06-2004, 22:24
OOC: Has the cameraman released the video? How much does the world know about the persecution? I missed the previous thread.
I summon the military force from my main nations (The Islands of Sysarba and Ganrork) to wage war on both of your nations unless stupidity is held at bay.As much as someone needs to stand up to Belem, please do not use puppet nations.
Dark Terror was deleted when all he did was deport Muslims from his nation, yet when Christians are not just deported, but killed, persecuted and shamed the mods just sit back like nothing happened.He also made out-of-character comments about Muslims.
Malpizia
24-06-2004, 22:44
OOC: Latinsbury, you seem to fit the bill of a CCA nation. If you are a true conservative Christian, feel free to join the Conservative Christian Allianc (there was no room for the e in alliance, fyi).

Statement from the Executor of State of Malpizia, coordinated with the comments of Alliance Commissioner of the CCA:
"For two millenia in the name of freedom for our missionary brothers to set a proper example of our religion and to allow these foreign nations of foreign religions to give our missionaries free passage in the hopes of conversion. The Malpizian Code of War dictates that when an enemy is so brutal that our citizens are in shock, their actions must be duplicated against their kind. The CCA is not generally friendly to Buddhist life, but those few Buddhists from Hogsweat will be enslaved to force labor camps as Hogsweat threatened and those that resist will be drowned as Hogsweat claims. The Constitution of Malpizia has been ammended with the Eternal War of Hogsweat act, in which a permanent state of war against Hogsweat has been unanimously approved and begun. Considering that all of the current CCA members are rather small, we small field over 2,000,000 fighting men and over 9,000,000 in the Provinicial Militias. Depend on 11,000,000 furious Christians to be at your doorstep with smelting Buddha statues behind them and gilded swords behind made from the wreckage for the purpose of beheading the leaders of Hogsweat."

When victory concludes the nation of Hogsweat will be left with salted soil and a Christian population assimilated into that of the CCA. Slave labor camps will be erected throughout the fox holes and trenches. There will be no post-war occupation except of resource-valuable regions and around the labor camps.
Malpizia
24-06-2004, 22:44
OOC: Latinsbury, you seem to fit the bill of a CCA nation. If you are a true conservative Christian, feel free to join the Conservative Christian Allianc (there was no room for the e in alliance, fyi).

Statement from the Executor of State of Malpizia, coordinated with the comments of Alliance Commissioner of the CCA:
"For two millenia in the name of freedom for our missionary brothers to set a proper example of our religion and to allow these foreign nations of foreign religions to give our missionaries free passage in the hopes of conversion. The Malpizian Code of War dictates that when an enemy is so brutal that our citizens are in shock, their actions must be duplicated against their kind. The CCA is not generally friendly to Buddhist life, but those few Buddhists from Hogsweat will be enslaved to force labor camps as Hogsweat threatened and those that resist will be drowned as Hogsweat claims. The Constitution of Malpizia has been ammended with the Eternal War of Hogsweat act, in which a permanent state of war against Hogsweat has been unanimously approved and begun. Considering that all of the current CCA members are rather small, we small field over 2,000,000 fighting men and over 9,000,000 in the Provinicial Militias. Depend on 11,000,000 furious Christians to be at your doorstep with smelting Buddha statues behind them and gilded swords behind made from the wreckage for the purpose of beheading the leaders of Hogsweat."

When victory concludes the nation of Hogsweat will be left with salted soil and a Christian population assimilated into that of the CCA. Slave labor camps will be erected throughout the fox holes and trenches. There will be no post-war occupation except of resource-valuable regions and around the labor camps.
Malpizia
24-06-2004, 22:45
Belem
24-06-2004, 23:06
Interesting.

Dark Terror was deleted when all he did was deport Muslims from his nation, yet when Christians are not just deported, but killed, persecuted and shamed the mods just sit back like nothing happened.

Is it just me, or is there a certain degree of bias in these forums?

EDIT: Mods - please tell me if you think otherwise.

OOC: I think technically he was deleted cause he said that the RL world would be a better place if all the muslims were dead. I dont think it had anything to do with what he did in game. But his puppet is in my region so ill ask him.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-06-2004, 23:13
We condemn this blatent act of genocide, and demand that it be stopped immediately or we will be forced to take immediate action to stop it.

Hogsweat has done in one day what it took several weeks to do in Rwanda, and several months in Cambodia, in a single day. This blatent act of genocide must not be allowed to continue.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-06-2004, 23:13
We condemn this blatent act of genocide, and demand that it be stopped immediately or we will be forced to take immediate action to stop it.

Hogsweat has done in one day what it took several weeks to do in Rwanda, and several months in Cambodia, in a single day. This blatent act of genocide must not be allowed to continue.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-06-2004, 23:14
We condemn this blatent act of genocide, and demand that it be stopped immediately or we will be forced to take immediate action to stop it.

Hogsweat has done in one day what it took several weeks to do in Rwanda, and several months in Cambodia, in a single day. This blatent act of genocide must not be allowed to continue.
Feline
24-06-2004, 23:16
We echo the sentiments of Lunatic Retard Robots.
Belem
24-06-2004, 23:30
Belem, now you are being irrational and unreasonable just as Hogsweat may be. I summon the military force from my main nations (The Islands of Sysarba and Ganrork) to wage war on both of your nations unless stupidity is held at bay. Come to your senses! You sound like a middle eastern nation with all this spastic warring, wot?

OOC: If you want to war me ill gladly turn you into a fine layer of dust and glass but no puppeteering.
Latinsbury
24-06-2004, 23:57
Malpazia , home at last !
Resistencia
25-06-2004, 02:34
Government Statement: Democratic Soviet Union of Resistencia
The Democratic Soviet Union of Resistencia condems this vile act carried out by Hogsweat. Though we are communist, the majority of our people are Catholic. Their act of treachery strikes at the heart of all in our nation, especially the christians.

What makes this all the worse for us, is that we once considered Hogsweat an ally. They were once a decent example of a good communist nation. Howver, they now shames communists and socialists throughout the world with his horrifying mass murders. Hogsweat is even part of our alliance, "The International." However, we shall assure all the good people of the world that we will do everything inour power to remove him from the above mentioned alliance.

We demand that Hogsweat cease the killing of innocent christians and end this pointless and disgusting religious purge. We will also gladly accept any christians wanting to leave Hogsweat and to find freedom in another place. This situation will be resolved soon and for the better of the world.
Dark Fututre
25-06-2004, 03:02
OOC: "Damn if only I wasn't a Christian i would kill you and you would drop dead however i am a Christian and i therefore not kill you."
OOC "could people stop acting out their fantasies on the forum (at least the 100 (or more) blanks killed. it is really annoying because to get to decent arguments you have to figure out which ones people would take up a flag of anger on."
IC: "The Republic feels that this may or may not be genocide but it also feels it is still a massacre and we too (like every one else) have our boarders open for fleeing Christians."
Muktar
25-06-2004, 03:07
Kartun grinned maniacally as he transfered the images from his digital camera onto his laptop, with wireless internet. Sure, he would send it to the local news, but after he does this:

I have viable photographic evidence of mass executions of Chirstians in Hogsweat. Copies of the picture files are for sale to any government official who is interested.
Hogsweat
25-06-2004, 09:14
ICly, they still dont know anyone else knows.

The Hogsweatian government are not killing innocents and we are certainly not commiting genocide. Belem, back down your threats. How would you kill our citizens? Helicopter raids? I do not think so.
Hogsweat
25-06-2004, 09:15
Oh, and can you please spell my name right? Its not all that hard.
Ybronneb
25-06-2004, 19:28
We of Ybronneb will fight for Latinsbury. We own military bases there and we WILL fight to mprotect our interests. The minute SyBalian troops hit Latinsbury soil they will pay the price. Any and all Latinsbury citizens are welcome to come and hide in Ybronneb. We have emptied several underground cities and will use those to house refugees. Christians are welcome as well. We have 100,000 troops in Latinsbury and another 3 million on the way. Jergan Clan, the nomads that have stayed in our nation for a long time, is sending 500,000 troops on horseback, and 100,000 via outdated helicopters. The rest of their fighting population stays in Ybronneb. SyBalia: Stand down, or face the wrath of the Christian Union, which contains tons of nations(exact number is unknown).
STAND DOWN

--Lord Edwin Do'Calamar
Secret IC: There is no Christian Union, but you guys don't know that. It is a bluff.
Josh Dollins
25-06-2004, 19:35
I am disgusted and outraged at this happening! I denounce these actions and demand they end and that action is taken to stop this from ever happening again and that an apology is issued. I welcome all fleeing christians to my nation.
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
25-06-2004, 19:39
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Of the notorious Nemo
25-06-2004, 19:49
I dont care if there christian or cathliks or atheaists its still plain murder! :shock:
Belem
25-06-2004, 19:52
ICly, they still dont know anyone else knows.

The Hogsweatian government are not killing innocents and we are certainly not commiting genocide. Belem, back down your threats. How would you kill our citizens? Helicopter raids? I do not think so.


Helicopter raids? Laughable. But we have very efficient ways to bring about death.
The Lightning Star
25-06-2004, 19:56
Falastur
26-06-2004, 00:45
With word of the beginning of hostilities on the beaches of Hogsweat, and with the broadcasted pictures of Christians being drowned, a Falasturian Fleet in the territory of Velna (my part of the island) has been dispatched to capture the trawlers and bring them to Falasturian port.

Equally, with the hostilities, a Falasturian Fleet from outside of the conflict area has been detailed to enter Falasturian waters, for self-protection.

As of yet, Falastur is not committing troops to the conflict.
Sevaris
26-06-2004, 01:03
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE PRIME MINISTER OF THE REPUBLIC OF SEVARIS

The Severian people, and the Parliament, have denounced these horrific acts of genocide by the nation of Hogsweat. I, Prime Minister Alec Mannerheim, have decided to send humanitarian aid to any and all nations fighting the Hogsweat menace, and we will also open our doors to any and all Christians seeking refuge. We will also send escorts with our ships. IF these ships are attacked, we will declare war on the agressor nation. Although we cannot send any troops, we have been and always will be committed to the cause of stopping tragedies like these from occuring. Thank you, and may God bless you all.

Prime Minister Alec Mannerheim
Garrison II
26-06-2004, 02:08
Transmission to the World

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Garrison II demands the nation of Hogsweat stop this senseless slaughter or the consquenses will be dire.

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