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The Los Angeles-class ballistic missile submarine (His version is a ballistic missile sub) they had stolen from Communist Louisiana slipped through the dark waters of the Indian Ocean, eventually coming to a stop a few hundred miles from the Magdhan mainland... She floated at a depth of about 800 feet. Her ballasts opened and she rose to just a hundred feet below the surface.

The crew had parked her with a straight shot to Maghda's capital, no Macabees ships or anyone elses were between them, lessening the chance their missiles would be shot down...

The commander of the boat, Adel al-Jubeir, signaled to his executive officer, who had been a formal naval officer in a foreign navy. He nodded and ran to a computer terminal, furiously typing in commands... Within minutes, a warning flashed on the screen...

"Sir, missile tanks being flooded... We await your command to fire..." was the executive officer's reply...

Adel nodded... He looked at his fine men he had worked with to steal this boat. He closed his eyes for a second before re-opening them...

He then cleared his throat... "Long have we suffered... At the hands of this world's other religions, trying to inflict their beliefs on our superior religion. It is to occur no more. Today, the infidels will learn the ferocity of the Islam religion, the ferocity of its messengers, and the strength of its message... Today, we end their dominance... And by Allah's will, I say this: Open fire..." He grinned...

The executive officer grinned and turned to the terminal... He entered in a command...

That electrical pulse swarmed through circuitry until it hit a dissipator unit, where it hit a secondary computer, splitting it to eight different motors... Which in turn opened the eight primary missile launch doors... As soon as the doors were open, that computer sent another electrical pulse which triggered a massive pressurized air system to jettison the eight Trident nuclear missiles with their multple warheads...

They rocketed through the water before their noses burst out, a sensor triggering their main engines to open fire, flames firing out the rear of the missile. They lifted themselves up into the sky, leaving a pure white billowing vapor trail... The eight Trident nuclear SLBMs were launched and en route towards Magdhan cities... Four were aimed for its capital. Two were aimed for the largest military base. One was actually targeted towards Macabee naval vessels (if any, if not, aimed towards Magdhan vessels). And the last one was targetted towards another Magdhan city. Each missile had 3 seperate warheads, to maximize destruction and prevent all of them from being knocked out. Each MIRV (warhead) was rated at 10 megatons.

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The missiles sailed into xenosphere, their boosters now seperating and their main warheads descending back into the atmosphere... They split apart, aiming for different parts of the country... They then split into their 3 seperate warheads, rapidly moving towards the Magdhan mainland...

They would impact any minute and deliver Islam's message to the inferior religions...


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As soon as the missiles were fired, the sub descended to 900 feet and put throttle full, attempting to escape, she was going 20 some knots, full speed...

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Magdhan missile intercepting satellites targetted the missiles and plotted their courses. 80 Anti-ICBM weapons fired onto these routes to blow up right on the ICBMs.

OOC- Do you really have anti-ICBM missiles? If so, state the systems name and the thread you purchased/designed it at... If not, you can't dream up anti-ICBM missiles...

OOC" I swear everyone is after magdha.

OOC- Do you really have anti-ICBM missiles? If so, state the systems name and the thread you purchased/designed it at... If not, you can't dream up anti-ICBM missiles...

I think when a nation gets to be so big, it is a given one has certain items. I mean I never RPed specifically down to bridge, road, hospitals, street signs etc. Some stuff is just a given.

OOC- Do you really have anti-ICBM missiles? If so, state the systems name and the thread you purchased/designed it at... If not, you can't dream up anti-ICBM missiles...

I think when a nation gets to be so big, it is a given one has certain items. I mean I never RPed specifically down to bridge, road, hospitals, street signs etc. Some stuff is just a given.

Yeah. You're just allowed to have certain things, as long as you don't get too excessive. Anything that is just out there has to be presented in a thread.

OOC: Um... xenosphere? This would be an atmospheric layer I'm unaware of....

OOC: Not to mention there are more than a few Liangite subs in Magdhan waters, considering Magdha is not even a sovereign nation anymore. It has been dismantled by Whittierite and Liangite armies. (The latter did the only real fighting. The only thing Whittier did was kidnap the Raj after betraying its ally).

OOC- The xenosphere is the highest layer of the atmosphere... (I believe, there may be one more)

Well, we fired from just under its (Trident's) maximum range. There are ways to go around your subs, because there's no way in hell you have every square foot of water around his country monitored. We have access to satellite equipment and intelligence services provided by other nations.

I don't want to sound perfectionist/making damn sure this works... But, I just don't see how a nation just magically sprouts a multi-trillion dollar anti-ballistic missile defense system when he hits 'a certain age'. As far as I'm concerned, if you want the benefits build one or buy one.

Besides, his ABM missiles probably won't do much to the nukes anyways, I know at least a few will make it through unscathed.

OOC: Perhaps you're thinking exosphere....

OOC- Hmm... Maybe... Hmm... I had always thought of it as the xenosphere...

OOC: Its all good. Your the best terrorist RP'er as far as I know and I hate Magdha ICly so I'm certainly not going to be making a big effort to save his hide.

OOC- Lol, sounds good.

OOC- Lol, sounds good.

Diverted bunker buster arrives on this battlefront causing 0 injuries and 0 casulties.

Due to the very low accuracy of an ABM system and the fact that the nation operating it is fairly young and doesn't probably have the technology that an older nation would have (therefore meaning even less accuracy), of the 24 warheads, eight make it through still in-tact. Also helping the warheads survive, were their armored warheads (to prevent shrapnel and intense heat from harming them) as well as a series of decoy MIRVs, which absorbed some of the missiles.

Of those eight, three are targetted for the Magdhan capital, two for its next largest city, and the rest about to land on Magdha's largest military base... Now it was too late for them to be targetted by Magdha anti-ballistic missile systems, they were in their terminal stages...

The rest of the nuclear warheads, disabled by Magdhan ABM systems fall to the ground... Eight were destroyed, their radioactive elemets falling towards Magdha... Two of the falling warheads were still active and would detonate when they hit the ground, and not above it, as customary.

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Eventually, the warheads reach their targets, detonating at a set altitude above their targets, wreaking havoc on anything below with a potent and expanding firestorm...

OOC=is this thread still open?
IC
What is the reason behind this attack. Do you realize that Magdha is currently under the control of Whittier?

War Minister
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An anonymous message was sent from an untrackable source to any receiving units...

It states:

"Magdha is still Magdha. Its people are still Magdhans. Its religion is still its religion. And it was designated a target and still is a target. Just because it is under control by someone else doesn't mean its a whole new place.

Our reason's are simple... To show this world that the Islamic faith cannot be pushed around without retaliation. You continually press your christian, jewish (judaism), buddhist, hinduist, etc. beliefs on us. You take our land, kill our people... We have always fought back... Although it has apparantly never been noticed. The world did not heed us. And with these oppurtunities, we have decided, to show the world that Islam will not allow itself to be converted to any other faith and we will not allow to be pushed around as we have been in the past. We are muslims and we deserve to live. The rest of you call our faith vile and barbaric... We ask you, who started the crusades? The christians. We ask you who continually attacks the middle east and any other arab/islamic state? The christians. We ask you who continually converts other people to their religion using secretive ways including 'humanitarian' assistance? The christians.

You are the barbarians, continually invading, killing, destroying... Then trying to take those native people and transform them to your evil beliefs."

An anonymous message was sent from an untrackable source to any receiving units...

It states:

"Magdha is still Magdha. Its people are still Magdhans. Its religion is still its religion. And it was designated a target and still is a target. Just because it is under control by someone else doesn't mean its a whole new place.

Our reason's are simple... To show this world that the Islamic faith cannot be pushed around without retaliation. You continually press your christian, jewish (judaism), buddhist, hinduist, etc. beliefs on us. You take our land, kill our people... We have always fought back... Although it has apparantly never been noticed. The world did not heed us. And with these oppurtunities, we have decided, to show the world that Islam will not allow itself to be converted to any other faith and we will not allow to be pushed around as we have been in the past. We are muslims and we deserve to live. The rest of you call our faith vile and barbaric... We ask you, who started the crusades? The christians. We ask you who continually attacks the middle east and any other arab/islamic state? The christians. We ask you who continually converts other people to their religion using secretive ways including 'humanitarian' assistance? The christians.

You are the barbarians, continually invading, killing, destroying... Then trying to take those native people and transform them to your evil beliefs."
Militant Islam, Whittier is not a nation founded on christianity. We have total freedom of religion. You are free to practice any religion you want in any manner you want. As long as it don't include human sacrifice. As far as I knew, Islam bans human sacrifice so I fail to see how you would have a problem with this if you are true muslims.
If muslims want to build mosques and practice their faith in Whittier or Whittier occupied lands, they are always free to do so. Along with everyone else and their religions. In Whittier, no religion gets special treatment.
Whittier's humanitarian assistance is often given without religious or any other strings being attached. If the people of the muslim nations asked us for humanitarian help, we would give it, no questions asked. That has been our record.
Whittier has never forced anyone to convert to any religion nor do we use religion as an excuse to push people around.
We do however, go after terrorists who kill innocent civilians. If you give you turn yourselves in to the nearest Whittier military outpost, you will be granted amnesty and immunity from prosecution if you agree to make amends for your past transgressions.
If you do not accept this offer, you will be destroyed.
As for your sub: Pandora's Box detected the launch of the missiles and while those ABM's were in flight, PB locked on in the subs signature and location and your sub was destroyed by an orbital missile carrying a 25 kiloton warhead that homed in on the subs heat and sonar signatures.

OOC- Do you really have anti-ICBM missiles? If so, state the systems name and the thread you purchased/designed it at... If not, you can't dream up anti-ICBM missiles...
He may not but I do.
Pandora's Box detected the launch, analyzed the warheads determining they were nuclear in nature. The warheads were destroyed in midlfight.

OOC- The xenosphere is the highest layer of the atmosphere... (I believe, there may be one more)

Well, we fired from just under its (Trident's) maximum range. There are ways to go around your subs, because there's no way in hell you have every square foot of water around his country monitored. We have access to satellite equipment and intelligence services provided by other nations.

I don't want to sound perfectionist/making damn sure this works... But, I just don't see how a nation just magically sprouts a multi-trillion dollar anti-ballistic missile defense system when he hits 'a certain age'. As far as I'm concerned, if you want the benefits build one or buy one.

Besides, his ABM missiles probably won't do much to the nukes anyways, I know at least a few will make it through unscathed.
Pandora's box would have destroyed all the warheads.
You should have read up on the Whittier doctrine.

OOC: MM, dont bother with nukes, because they will most likely get shot down (or ignored by a noob) anyways.

IC: This attack on Magdha is unacceptable. Magdha is being reformed by Whittier under both Northwestern Liang's and my surveillance. If these attacks continue, I will have no choice but to declare war on you to mantain safety for my troops present in Magdha and the surrounding area.

OOC: MM, dont bother with nukes, because they will most likely get shot down (or ignored by a noob) anyways.

IC: This attack on Magdha is unacceptable. Magdha is being reformed by Whittier under both Northwestern Liang's and my surveillance. If these attacks continue, I will have no choice but to declare war on you to mantain safety for my troops present in Magdha and the surrounding area.
Can you administer eastern burma?

OOC- Out statement was aimed towards Magdha, not Whittier... We actually somewhat respect Whittier... Or did, that is, until you stood up for Magdha.


Err... Do you really have ABM satellites/launchers all around the world to intercept them? The purpose of an ABM system is to shoot down the missiles over water or over enemy territory, so they crash and detonate in the enemy's own country or above it... The radioactive material will still fall onto his country. And if any of their firing systems survived, they could very well still detonate... Maybe even detonate prematurely, I don't know. Wait... Did you mean mid-flight with the booster still attached or midflight as in warheads?

You satellite can't really home in on my sonar signature, since your satellite is 200-some miles away in earth orbit and has no way to transmit or receive sound (its in space)... Either way, my subs still gone, since you can read heat signatures from space.

You know, you just nuked international waters (with my sub in it)... That breaks about a dozen or more international laws (if it were real life).


And one more thing... We are NOT Militant Islam...

OOC- Out statement was aimed towards Magdha, not Whittier... We actually somewhat respect Whittier... Or did, that is, until you stood up for Magdha.


Err... Do you really have ABM satellites/launchers all around the world to intercept them? The purpose of an ABM system is to shoot down the missiles over water or over enemy territory, so they crash and detonate in the enemy's own country or above it... The radioactive material will still fall onto his country. And if any of their firing systems survived, they could very well still detonate... Maybe even detonate prematurely, I don't know. Wait... Did you mean mid-flight with the booster still attached or midflight as in warheads?

You satellite can't really home in on my sonar signature, since your satellite is 200-some miles away in earth orbit and has no way to transmit or receive sound (its in space)... Either way, my subs still gone, since you can read heat signatures from space.

You know, you just nuked international waters (with my sub in it)... That breaks about a dozen or more international laws (if it were real life).


And one more thing... We are NOT Militant Islam...

Are system is advanced enough to do that. The warheads themselves would have been targeted. They would have been destroyed in a manner that would have destroyed the radioactive material, though the process used is not fool proof.
And even if the sub was nuclear powered, an attack on it would not have set off an atomic explosion.
Rather the warheads in any remaining nukes would have severly damaged so as to make those nukes inoperable even if they survived.


Actually the property of sound in space is most interesting. If space is empty then yes, but if there are interstellar clouds, sound can travel through space. Cosmologists discovered this when they were studying distant galaxies.
Also, we now know that the structure of the universe was shaped by massive sonic sound waves. Pretty powerful stuff actually. Probably would have been enough to kill every living thing on earth.

OOC- Well, I knew that. But I was stating that its in space plus 200-some miles away... You're going to need a direct sound wave that doesn't bounce away and that can penetrate water without spreading, otherwise you won't get anything back. Even then, you shouldn't even need sonar. Thermal imaging is enough to pick out a sub at that distance and in the ocean.

OOC- Well, I knew that. But I was stating that its in space plus 200-some miles away... You're going to need a direct sound wave that doesn't bounce away and that can penetrate water without spreading, otherwise you won't get anything back. Even then, you shouldn't even need sonar. Thermal imaging is enough to pick out a sub at that distance and in the ocean.
I already got your point about the sonar.

OOC- In that case... Nevermind...

Damn, can't a terrorist nation nuke someone any more? Even when they go through the work to legitimately steal a nuclear submarine... And legitimately acquire the materials... Can't at least one warhead get through? Seriously. I put too much work into this to have my missiles go *poof* in the sky...

OOC: MM, dont bother with nukes, because they will most likely get shot down (or ignored by a noob) anyways.

IC: This attack on Magdha is unacceptable. Magdha is being reformed by Whittier under both Northwestern Liang's and my surveillance. If these attacks continue, I will have no choice but to declare war on you to mantain safety for my troops present in Magdha and the surrounding area.
Can you administer eastern burma?
administer meaning what?

OOC: MM, dont bother with nukes, because they will most likely get shot down (or ignored by a noob) anyways.

IC: This attack on Magdha is unacceptable. Magdha is being reformed by Whittier under both Northwestern Liang's and my surveillance. If these attacks continue, I will have no choice but to declare war on you to mantain safety for my troops present in Magdha and the surrounding area.
Can you administer eastern burma?
depends on exactly what you mean by administer...
Administer: You enforce laws and help rebuild infrastructure and provide humane aid to those who need. You rule it but you don't own it.
It's like being a custodian or manager.

Will I be allowed to have military presence in the area after these duties are fulfilled?

Whittier, to put it bluntly, you are a idiotic n00b... Even though you are a 2002 nation, you have no knowledge of the etiquette of proper roleplaying... IF you actually destroyed all of MM's nuclear missiles that were heading for Magdha, you should have at least, described how it was done... And that's a big IF...

Although I don't support such aggressive and terrorist behavior from MM, Whittier, your utter lack of respsect and roleplaying abilities forces my hand...

In addition, ABM systems are known for their inaccuracy, which means some 10% of MM's missiles went through and struck Magdha... In addition, there is no way for your ABM system to be sensitive enough to detect nuclear missiles that are approaching from several thousand kilometers... Even if you detect that the approaching missiles are nuclear at some two hundred kilometers, any ABM system will take some time to react... NO ABM SYSTEM IS FOOL-PROOF...

And finally, your so-called "Pandora's Box" System is utterly godmodding... There is no way for such a powerful, fool-proof system to exist...

Due to all of these factors, the Five Civilized Nations acknowledges the success of MM's nuclear attacks and condemns MM for committing such an aggressive action...

Five Civilized Nations wrote: Whittier, to put it bluntly, you are a idiotic n00b...

For this reason you are now ignored.

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The fact is all the missiles were destroyed if most of the nations involved in this rp recognize them as such.
Same with the land the Magdha owned. Hence the reason I "own" eastern kashmir, sri lanka, india, bangladesh, burma, singapore, and celebes.
Cause the people in this rp, most of whom rped with Magdha before told me those were his lands. If Magdha had claimed to be owner of all them, and the majority disputed, then I would have limited my rule to india and those lands the majority agreed with.
And such a system is possible. It just takes lots of money cause it takes a lot of sattelites, advanced tech., and people to maintain.
Now you might want accept that MM's missiles went through even though it seems to me that you are practically the only one that does.
As you said in another post, this is free form rp. As I haven't rped with nations with mythological creatures and super clone armies before, I'm just going along with the majority. If I try something and the majority says no, then I'll do something else that they do agree on, cause this being unfamiliar territory.
And what the hell gives you the right to be so self righteous? Its you who are lacking respect for the other rpers in this rp. One of the main rpers had already denied one of your requests in one of the other threads. Its not for you to decide what's acceptable, its for the two main rpers to decide what is going to be accepted.
Ignore back on.