NationStates Jolt Archive


Urgent Nuclear Buildup

Swedish Dominions
22-06-2004, 16:24
Due to the past few months with tensions between the Swedish Dominions and other nations i'm ordering an Urgent Nuclear Buildup.

We will consentrate on making ICBMs.
We estimate to have 5 000 ready by the next month.

Thank you all for this short time.
Holy panooly
22-06-2004, 16:25
Does dontgoarethere (whatever the hell his name is) allow it? You're still part of his empire.
Credonia
22-06-2004, 16:26
no hes not, not unless i pull my million man army out



Have you considered the Accord? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154695)
Swedish Dominions
22-06-2004, 16:26
I have free choices....
He's only there to prevent me from building the virus...
I'm still self govern.
Gorkon
22-06-2004, 16:55
As a military nation, we recognise the applications nuclear devices may hold. Which is why we have rejected them from our arsenal and refused to conduct any further research into them. We also recognise that an arsenal of 5,000 nuclear weapons of any contemporary yield is a phenomenal waste of money, as the first 100 or so would be enough to plunge the entire planet into fire, and nuclear winter.
Five Civilized Nations
22-06-2004, 17:01
Swedish Dominions, unless the occupation forces within your nations agree to your possession of nuclear weapons, you are unable to build up any arsenal...

Therefore, any attempts by other nations to supply the Swedish Dominions will be considered a threat to international security and will be viewed as an act of aggression against the Five Civilized Nations...
Holy panooly
22-06-2004, 17:09
And he's a lot bigger than you
Fuhrer landw
22-06-2004, 17:18
We ask that the Swedish Dom err on the side of caution (a few ICBM's cant hurt :P )


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Credonia
22-06-2004, 17:21
FCN, you have nothing to worry about so long as Credonian forces are on the ground in his nation. Cut him some slack. A nation has the right to defend itself from whomever it needs to.
Credonia
22-06-2004, 17:23
Five Civilized Nations
22-06-2004, 17:40
Well, considering the fact that both you and DGNT are my nominal allies, I'm not sure who to support now... :roll:
Bonstock
22-06-2004, 18:14
Urgent Dispatch:

The Government of Swedish Dominions shall not possess weapons of mass destruction as the occupation continues. Nuclear detterance will be provided by the occupying powers. The occupying powers will have the right to enforce this.
East Coast Federation
22-06-2004, 20:09
East Coast Federation
22-06-2004, 20:10
East Coast Federation
22-06-2004, 20:11
The ECF Has An Extensive Nuclear Arsenal and we will not sell anything that could help any Rouge Nation Develop Nuclear Weapons.
Not to mention our whole navy is Nuclear Powered.
East Coast Federation
22-06-2004, 20:13
The ECF Has An Extensive Nuclear Arsenal and we will not sell anything that could help any Rouge Nation Develop Nuclear Weapons.
Not to mention our whole navy is Nuclear Powered.
Dontgonearthere
23-06-2004, 06:55
OOC:
It would be nice if you would TG me about these things.
And Cred, didnt we agree to reduce our forces to 5000 men each?

IC:
Dontgonearthere does not wish Swedish Dominions to possess quite so many weapons.
For now, we respectfully request that you limit production to 500 or fewer warheads, no more than 5 megatons each.
We ask this not only for our saftey, but for your nations as well. Having announced this you make yourself a target for any number of anti-nuclear extremists, terrorists and other unpleasant experiences.
Since we are in a good mood and hope to make the remainder of your occupation pleasant GLACORP would like to offer you purchase of 500 such weapons at a %20 discount from the normal rate.
IN FACT, if you wish to become a futuretech nation (OOC note: As indicated by the somewhat odd invasion of the Empire a few days ago) Dontgonearthere will be happy to sell you plans for insystem spacecraft engines, hulls and weapons, as well as a few working ships and hyperdrives.
Arrangements for ground warfare may be made later.

If your interested:
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=idx
Lasatania
23-06-2004, 11:04
OOC: gah - what is it with nukes... 5000, fer feks sake... OK, so lets say you have 5000 warheads, where are you going to produce 5,000 delivery systems within a month, let alone find the radioactive material, process it and then place it in warheads... then... you also have another set of problems with guidance systems, building a communications and logistics network and the rest... 30 days to produce more warheads than the US and USSR combined.. gimme a break... You wanna play with nukes, do it properly... My country's a rogue state and we've developed a bomb.. but I ain't gonna produce 5,000 of the fuckers... instead I'm we're going to use cruise missles and conventional bombs in the first instance, then probably an INF delivery system followed by ICBM... production of nuclear technology ain't an overnnight thing.. even for a well developed country... Oh an I forgot, while your at it, you better consider warhead payloads, warhead types, detonation types... and also whether your using thermonuclear or nuclear weapons

Plus one thing I really find hilarious in all of this, is that everybody has this great big arsenal and they get ready to press the button at the first instance... have a read of this..

http://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/doctrine/dod/fm8-9/1toc.htm

You really think that your gonna win a war firing nukes? don't make me laugh.. Possessing nukes has only one real benefit.. no-one dare nuke you.. cos any ruler will realise that pressing that button is the most stupid thing you can do.... (Why else do you think Einsteein hated himself so much for letting his work produce the bomb..

Quote..

"The World War after the next (WWIII) will be fought with sticks and stones..) Einstein
Credonia
23-06-2004, 12:25
OOC:
It would be nice if you would TG me about these things.
And Cred, didnt we agree to reduce our forces to 5000 men each?

IC:
Dontgonearthere does not wish Swedish Dominions to possess quite so many weapons.
For now, we respectfully request that you limit production to 500 or fewer warheads, no more than 5 megatons each.
We ask this not only for our saftey, but for your nations as well. Having announced this you make yourself a target for any number of anti-nuclear extremists, terrorists and other unpleasant experiences.
Since we are in a good mood and hope to make the remainder of your occupation pleasant GLACORP would like to offer you purchase of 500 such weapons at a %20 discount from the normal rate.
IN FACT, if you wish to become a futuretech nation (OOC note: As indicated by the somewhat odd invasion of the Empire a few days ago) Dontgonearthere will be happy to sell you plans for insystem spacecraft engines, hulls and weapons, as well as a few working ships and hyperdrives.
Arrangements for ground warfare may be made later.

If your interested:
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=idx


OOC: I did originally, but im changing up my strategy
DontPissUsOff
23-06-2004, 12:33
While we do not support nuclear proliferation, would Swedish Dominions be interested in IRBMs rather than ICBMs? Just as good against conventional forces bu don't tend to get people so twitchy.