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OOC: Before you read this you must realize AMF (Automagfreek) does the same thing with his sentinels; geneticly enhanced human beings. If you come here only to start an whole page essay then don't bother posting.

IC: Holy Panooly GeneTech Corp.

Alright, today we're going to start our new project. We've seen AMF with his extremely succesful sentinels and as usual, the Fuhrer wants something like that but better, more powerful, deadlier... You know the drill.

Richard, do you still have the research on the virusses and some samples of their genepool? I think we need to search and experiment in that direction. Human genes mixed with the power of a virus and a few minor additions from other animals. Heh, good thing we have a virtually unlimited budget.

Charley, I have it all here in my computer plus some things you're interested in.

And what will that be? Naken women? A free trip to some tropical paradise?

Nah, a complete list about all the human genes (OOC: this has been made in RL)

Now that's useful but I want a few lists about certain animals. They have more interesting abilities than humans.

Like what?

Regeneration. Better sight, night vision... But I'm mostly interested in regeneration of limbs and such. Planaria is a fine example of this. It can be cut in 32 parts and each part will grow a new head, tail, eyes, mouth and internal organs...

Amazing, and I bet we are going to find that gen.

Damn right. People, let's get to work. We have lots of things to do.

OOC: I'll turn this into a free RP, this story is open to everyone, not the content of the research.

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So take a person - splice in genes for better breathing (underwater), stronger muscles, more controllable (ie less self-will), higher intelligence, better killer, etc right?

Reminds of Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

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So take a person - splice in genes for better breathing (underwater), stronger muscles, more controllable (ie less self-will), higher intelligence, better killer, etc right?

Reminds of Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

Yup. AMF did it, so why shouldn't I create superior soldiers? Much cheaper too, they don't have to be paid.

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Also, its wrong but i will hold my peace for the moment

A few months later lots of progress has been made. The first few embryos have been cloned and the genes of the Planaria to regenerate have been added. The have been put inside an artifical uterus and they are growing.

Richard I am very pleased with our current progress. Everything is going according to plan. I hope we'll see them in action someday like AMF's sentinels.

Yeah that would be something. Can't we hire one of them sentinels to fight our creations? As a test I mean. It would be a perfect comparison.

True, but let's focus on our current project.

OOC:I don't really think that you can just pick and choose what things you want added in to you soldiers. Like splicing the genes of cats with humans to get Night vision or agility. More likly if you did somthing like that you'd get some kind of horrible mutation that wouldn't naturally live for more than a few days. As a nation of Geneticaly modified nation I assume that line.

"Sir, we've received reports about a Genetic's project in Holy panooly. They seem to be making fair progress, a few of their techinques are somwhat questionable, but their results should be somthing to see."

"Just how did we com across this intel? I always find it surprising how we can be suddenly aware of things in countries that we don't even have diplomatic relations with. I'll assume that its somthing to do with employmet quota's and leave it at that. I suppose that we could offer them assistance, in a casual 'we didn't know' fashion. It would increase our presence on the international stage and give us favorable relations with that Nation"

"I'll see to it at once"

OOC:I don't really think that you can just pick and choose what things you want added in to you soldiers. Like splicing the genes of cats with humans to get Night vision or agility. More likly if you did somthing like that you'd get some kind of horrible mutation that wouldn't naturally live for more than a few days. As a nation of Geneticaly modified nation I assume that line.

Of course I simplefied the whole process, but the bottom line is the same. You pick up the genes you want and place them in a cell. 9 of 10 times if a failure but when you succeed, you're in business. That's what we're trying to do.

"Just how did we com across this intel? I always find it surprising how we can be suddenly aware of things in countries that we don't even have diplomatic relations with.


heh. It's funny because it's true.....

I think this quote makes the difficulty of such a thing clear;

Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. This means you can't, for example, insert "the genes for an elephant's trunk" into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There -are- no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation into a terran plant

Beyond that, good show! Though we perfer controlled breeding and cybernetic augmentation.

The first artifical babies have been born. All is well now except for a few minor details. After more experiments and research we have come up with a splendid design. A human but the cells are all have viral properties. When a non-virohuman comes into direct contact with it (blood, sperm & other body fluids) they will die since their body will overreact with anti-bodies.

I love this one. We should begin constructing the cell immediately. After the first 10 babies have been born only 1 is a bit what we had in mind. The rest can be thrown into the litter bin. All blind, deaf or crippled.

Yup. I'll clean their cages and ask secuirity if they want to destroy the experiments. Only #8 is good enough to work with.

Aye sir.

Here we go, we have our design on paper and now it's only a matter of time until we have what we want.

you cant create humans, or can ya????????????? damn, im so confused! but hey, giv me sum please? :|

Yep we're creating them.

A human but the cells are all have viral properties. When a non-virohuman comes into direct contact with it (blood, sperm & other body fluids) they will die since their body will overreact with anti-bodies.

Could you please elaborate. Do you mean that each cell is virus-like meaning no a hard protien shell with a jumble of RNA inside? Or something entierly diffrent.

And maybe that would explain why the human would overreact...

Hmm? This is interesting, would you ant them to b more powerful than you could make them? We could take a basic human, and make it possible to push an M1-Abrams tank like it was a shopping cart. Would you want sliver DNA to splice? Just imagine, warriors that could evolve over the current problem(could become a neat RP if you have them go crazy).

Intrigueing. If I wasn't favorable to your current regiem, and my nation wasn't Nazi itself, I'd probably invade you before this project could be completed.

As it is, I can only offer congratulations and technical and monetary assistance.

The whole idea behind this concept isn't about how the virus is built, but it's single chromosome inside his protective layer of protien. The Chromosomes can be duplicated easily (hence normal cell division). The genes which are needed for the viral properties all lie on the chromosome, they only need to be harvested. Place the gen which orders their host to create new virusses (that's the whole point behind a virus) in the mother cell and that's it. Of course it has to go through a lot of testing and experimenting before it's finally done without errors.

When one comes into contact with the partially viral cell the human body recognized it as a virus; an intruder. The body will try to do anything about it but it's too late by then. A totally strange substance enters the body, starts killing cells and body overreacts with useless countermeasures.

well if you actualy succeed on this then i will be very impressed! are these gentic mutation warriors gonna be fertile or are you gonna have to make them each time?

Hmm? This is interesting, would you ant them to b more powerful than you could make them? We could take a basic human, and make it possible to push an M1-Abrams tank like it was a shopping cart. Would you want sliver DNA to splice? Just imagine, warriors that could evolve over the current problem(could become a neat RP if you have them go crazy).

Imagine arnold from T3, it's a bit like that. Without the leather village people suit of course. They're strong, without emotions and are trained to maim.

@ Furbs: They won't be able to procreate.

well i am suddenly less impressed! you need to work out how to do that and it will all be alot easier because then when you get exactly what you want you can have as many as you want! and you can start selling them.

When one comes into contact with the partially viral cell the human body recognized it as a virus; an intruder. The body will try to do anything about it but it's too late by then. A totally strange substance enters the body, starts killing cells and body overreacts with useless countermeasures.

Human bodies have been fighting viruses for quite sometime, as a matter of fact against any foreign substance. ((See rejected organ transplants)) therefore it will not overreact with useless countermeasures, merely treat it the way it would against any virus.

Come on HP, with moulders xperiments and warpstone, your project, it would be a very SERIOUS force to reckon with......

Well I guess you're right People, I'm no expert in these kind of things. But It's a fact the human body won't like to get in contact with it.

@ Furbs, when they can procreate you're creating one hell of a problem. Geneticly engineered human like creations mixing with real humans. God knows what happens. We'll breed them in huge vats and put them into a cold storage until they're needed. We'll let a few hundred roam the planet freely just to make them a bit more human.

Come on HP, with moulders xperiments and warpstone, your project, it would be a very SERIOUS force to reckon with......

We'll think of something. Eventually. But we'll brainwash them long enough to see HP and it's allies as friends, not some flesh waiting to be killed.

ok then, i can see your point. have u tried making their bones very light so that you can give them wings? that would be a lot cheaper than aircraft and harder to hit.

Nah, we're trying to keep them as human as possible. Wings or hawk eyes would be too obvious. They're extremely suited for assassinations and such. Black ops... You name it.

Warpstone, is not particularly....enjoyed by the recievers, it has many ranged effects, almost always causes mutation, not all the time but often, if non-expierenced, usually will result in death. But, this is where Clan Moulder comes in, since their creation, this is their stock and trade, they know just the right amount, the right location to keep that grafted arm on, or make that brain transplant work, inter breeding is often done to, hence the production of Rat Ogres.

Warpstone, is not particularly....enjoyed by the recievers, it has many ranged effects, almost always causes mutation, not all the time but often, if non-expierenced, usually will result in death. But, this is where Clan Moulder comes in, since their creation, this is their stock and trade, they know just the right amount, the right location to keep that grafted arm on, or make that brain transplant work, inter breeding is often done to, hence the production of Rat Ogres.

Holy Panooly presidential palace

Herr Fuhrer, I have a report about the current status of our special projects.

Drop it on my desk and I'll look into it.

Very well sir.

The Fuhrer opened the folder and started reading. Sometime later he called Mr Leighmar to congratulate him with the outstanding results.

Mr Leighmar I am so very pleased with this. Sure, I am aware of the fact this is far from done and only a few childs that were born are succesful. But this is nonetheless a great moment for a celebration. Soon we will have a force which can compete with AMF.

True Herr Fuhrer but I rather not have war with him. He's a bit more powerful than us...

I know, I know but that doesn't make me less happy.

Of course. Next year we can compile the statistics and results of everything which has been done. Then we can talk about methods and results.

Mr Leighmar, do you really think our new soldier will ever see the light of day?

No worries herr Fuhrer, it will.

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[code:1:5fa50b0871]To: Fuhrer of Holy Panooly
From: Emperor Ferdinand Matichek II
Subject: Something you may lie for your new toys

We are aware of your experiments and we have something taht would be of great interest to you. If you were to add an extra Y chromosome to the subjects the males would become 'violent and devious' but otherwise unchanged. We hope we can assist you with this project more in the future. We will be in touch[/code:1:5fa50b0871]


OOC:This actually occurs in RL, a man can have XYY instead of XY and all that will change is he will become far more violent and devious

Yup. AMF did it, so why shouldn't I create superior soldiers? Much cheaper too, they don't have to be paid.

OOC: You need to understand something, the Sentienls are not "uber clones". Their bodies are just as frail as regular humans, except the Sentinels do not need to worry about cancer, asthma, and other genetic diseases.

The Sentinels are not super soldiers, their specialized training is what sets them apart from everything else. Making clones that can regenerate is godmodding in my book.

OOC: I was thinking of that too AMF, but these geneticly enhanced humans can be easily killed. They have the same internal organs, need water and food. They're just stronger and a complete lack of emotions.
By the way, you said they're clones from your AMF leader. Mind if I call them clones?

SECRET IC:

We thank the Huzeny government for their support in our quest for the ultimate soldier. We are now in the final stage so we will implement the genes in the next generation

IC:

A few months later... Again.

Today is a cheerful one. 12 babies have been born and 10 of them have the genes we gave them and are perfectly normal to look at. The virus cells have been developed and are much stronger than human cells. There's one major thing which we didn't expected...
The regeneration feature is a complete failure. None of the babies who have the genes who's leg was amputated started to grow a new one within 2 months. This is only one set back in comparison to the many breakthroughs we've witnessed. We're still looking for an alternative to regeneration and this time our team is busy experimenting with stem cells.

OOC: Oh well, I guess I'll have to release a few nasty surprises that I've come up with.

OOC: Oh well, I guess I'll have to release a few nasty surprises that I've come up with.

I can't wait to see what happens.

if you mixed some genes of those kinda lizards that re grow thier legs and tails then maybe your human will re grow them too. it might be green and scaly and have a long tail, but i am sure you could do something bout that afterwards!

The Sentinels are not super soldiers, their specialized training is what sets them apart from everything else.

Really? Then there's hope for the rest of us non-clone using nations then? Good. Sure I'll have to select soldiers at birth, but that's a small price to pay :wink:

Really? Then there's hope for the rest of us non-clone using nations then? Good. Sure I'll have to select soldiers at birth, but that's a small price to pay :wink:

OOC: But there's 1 significant difference between my Sentinels and everybody else's soldiers: I've put almost a year into RPing them. I've built these guys up to a point where I can confidently fight most anyone. The only soldiers I would have problems with are the Reavers of Pantera. It dosen't matter how uber 1337 somebody's clones are, my Sentinels are still an overwhelming force of destruction.

OOC: But there's 1 significant difference between my Sentinels and everybody else's soldies: I've put almost a year into RPing them. I've built these guys up to a point where I can confidently fight most anyone.

So...How did you start RPing them? Is there a thread in the archive regarding their first use in combat? I'd like to try and learn from it.

i will help put them to the test if you want automagfreek! my army is not exactly weak!

i can help you test them if you want automagfreek! my army isnt weak!

i can help you test them if you want automagfreek! my army isnt weak! :twisted:

Hmm? This is interesting, would you ant them to b more powerful than you could make them? We could take a basic bezerker , and make it possible to push an M1-Abrams tank like it was a shopping cart. Would you want sliver DNA to splice? Just imagine, warriors that could evolve over the current problem(could become a neat RP if you have them go crazy).
the bezerker is the main race of seprioth the males are supernatrually strong and ten feet tall and they have two usefull abilaties 1 being the abillty to revive themselves 2 the power to fire engery blasts

OOC: But there's 1 significant difference between my Sentinels and everybody else's soldies: I've put almost a year into RPing them. I've built these guys up to a point where I can confidently fight most anyone.

So...How did you start RPing them? Is there a thread in the archive regarding their first use in combat? I'd like to try and learn from it.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65559
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68971

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98847
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99165
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103232
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.phpt=103704
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111850

The top 2 threads are the creation of the Sentinels.

The bottom 5 are threads whwere the Sentinel Stalkers (the only modified soldiers AMF has, and I use them only for black ops) versus the heavily modified Strikers. Lots 'o good reading.

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First, sorry for further hijacking of your thread HP.

Second, (though you have heard it before and will hear it again) wonderful job AMF! Though IMO you definatly took them to the extreem, more or less drones designed to fight and die.

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that place even more of a burden on your command structure? As we obsevered from link #2 they take orders, they don't make them.

Beyond that wonderful! All though I never posted it my millitary uses a Farscape-esk idea. Not clones but merely born into it and yes, those that can't meet the standards are dropped (such as asthma sufferers etc (though rare)). As I said above, key difference, free will, it is both a boon and a bane in a soldier.

Kudos!

IC: We could make another attempt but we won't. Stem cells are much more pro active when it comes to faster healing of wounds. Regeneration is nice to have but it doesn't work the same way with humans. Insects have a pretty simple anatomy compared to humans. Our researchers think it's possible, but it wouldn't be very effective.

OOC: Thanks for the threads, good stuff. My new clone soldiers should be able to match AMF's but I have to but a lot more time and effort in this story before they can. I'll let the story develop since I'm going on holiday for 2 weeks tonight.

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OOC: i'll come up with something meaningfull to add soon