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Automagfreek and Dr_Twist have settled their differences diplomatically, and the peace process has begun. Dr_Twist has accepted our terms and we are beginning to enforce them, and we have called in APTO peacekeepers to not only to force outsiders out of DT but also ensure that no fighting erupts as we help rebuild their country. We are most pleased to see that DT wants a brighter future, and their crimes against AMF have been forgiven due to acceptance of our terms.

Now comes the Whittier Pact, the group that sought to destroy the negotiation process. They openly threatened action against us and begun mobilizing troops for God's sake. They are a dangerous faction that not only supports the use of Weapons of Mass Destuction on civilians, they also are apparently anti-AMF and anti-peace. AMF wanted nothing more than for DT to pay for their actions, and thus they have. The Whittier Pact however would have liked nothing more than war between Automagfreek, and their wishes were made clear.

We praise Iuthia for thier support and we also praise those that rose to our defense during our tribulation. The bodies of the dead in Greece are being buried and the destruction is being cleaned up, and soon DT wil be cleaned and renewed. This almost was not possible thanks to the Whittier Pact.

I herby sever all ties with Whittier and those nations in the Whittier Pact, a terrorist, warmongering. I urge the nations of the world to recognize this threat to stability and to follow suit and sever ties as well. AMF is not the enemy, and our diplomatic actions in the face of such an act by Dr_Twist proves that compasison is not foreign to us. I pray that the world can see what a threat to peace the Whittier Pact is, and I pray that others follow AMF and Iuthia's example.


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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

I am very glad to see two nations find a diplomatic solution to a problem!

(OOC: Especially when your lead looks like Kane from the WWF!)

Magdha applauds this effort and hereby condemns the Whittier pact for their support of terrorism and genocide. We are hereby cutting all relations to the nation of Whittier and Whittier PAct nations who do not withdraw from the pact within 24 hours.

who exactly is in the whittier pact?

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155030

Whittier is already sanctioning Iuthia for thier condemnation of the Whittier Pact's actions. How...expected. I submit this as further evidence against the Whittier Pact and their aggressive nature.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires

OCC: So i can clear something up Whitter was Prepared to go in to Protect the Monarchy, He was not going to help the Communists, he was going in to Aid the Tsar, AMF i think u missed this part as he was not supporting the Government that did all of the Gassings and Killings.

Also during the last 5 Years of Communist Rule and During this war almost 600 Million DT Citizens Were Gassed Hanged and Executed. This will always be a black spot in History for DT, The Wind of Change is coming. A new Government will be Install Soon, The Tsar will be entering the Capital later Today.

The Tsar has Requested again all Foreign Forces to Leave DT, You have 48 Hours to do so our DT Militia will be your Enemy, with every one over the age of 18 in DT Owning a Gun you will be out numbered and Crushed into Submission

OCC: So i can clear something up Whitter was Prepared to go in to Protect the Monarchy, He was not going to help the Communists, he was going in to Aid the Tsar, AMF i think u missed this part as he was not supporting the Government that did all of the Gassings and Killings.

OOC: OOC wise I understand perfectly, ICly though things are different.



The Tsar has Requested again all Foreign Forces to Leave DT, You have 48 Hours to do so our DT Militia will be your Enemy, with every one over the age of 18 in DT Owning a Gun you will be out numbered and Crushed into Submission

APTO peacekeepers will be arriving to assist AMF forces in securing your country so reconstruction can take place.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires

Despite minor animosity toward AMF, High Commander Akan Muktar publicly laughs uncontrolably at the Whittier Pact.

OCC: So i can clear something up Whitter was Prepared to go in to Protect the Monarchy, He was not going to help the Communists, he was going in to Aid the Tsar, AMF i think u missed this part as he was not supporting the Government that did all of the Gassings and Killings.

OOC: OOC wise I understand perfectly, ICly though things are different.



The Tsar has Requested again all Foreign Forces to Leave DT, You have 48 Hours to do so our DT Militia will be your Enemy, with every one over the age of 18 in DT Owning a Gun you will be out numbered and Crushed into Submission

APTO peacekeepers will be arriving to assist AMF forces in securing your country so reconstruction can take place.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires

OCC: Understandable.

Yes APTO Peacekeepers will be Allowed into the Nation, What we do Request is the list of nations coming in for Peace Keeping Duty's within DT and the Right to Reject them if we feel it is needed, AMF Will not be Rejected however.

Ect for These others MUST leave ALL DT Lands within 48 Hours.

Yes APTO Peacekeepers will be Allowed into the Nation, What we do Request is the list of nations coming in for Peace Keeping Duty's within DT and the Right to Reject them if we feel it is needed, AMF Will not be Rejected however.

Ect for These others MUST leave ALL DT Lands within 48 Hours.

Agreed, and agreed. All APTO nations participating will make their presense known to you prior to committing forces. I can alot you that courtesy.

All foreign combatants inside Dr_Twist must leave or suffer death in the name of peace and preservation of Dr_Twist.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

Whittier was supporting a very important ally.

OOC: Who besides AMF and DT has troops in DT? Mine haven't had time to there yet.

IC: The situation with Iuthia was tit for tat. They stopped diplomatic recognition of us and we halted diplomatic recognition of them. This is normal in diplomatic circles.

As for Magdha, we note Magdha's previous support of terrorist groups in the past. We would pull out our ambassador from Magdha but we never had one there.
And sanctions would be imposed but we don't even trade with them.

As for Magdha, we note Magdha's previous support of terrorist groups in the past. We would pull out our ambassador from Magdha but we never had one there.
And sanctions would be imposed but we don't even trade with them.

I never supported terror groups.

ooc: AMF, what is the APTO?

Whittier was supporting a very important ally.



Your actions put the peace process in great jeopardy. And the mobilization of several Whittier Pact members did not do anything but further strain our efforts to spare DT from the flame.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

ooc: AMF, what is the APTO?

OOC: The Allied Power Treaty Organization, the region I'm in.

Sigma Octavus will put peacekeepers in Dr_Twist as a member of APTO. We wish that things go well and nothing happens. We will keep those with interests not to the best of your nation out.

-Military Division
Sigma Octavus Foreign Relations

OOC: Sorry AMF, but I've sent you a number of telegrams and I guess you didn't get them.

IC: We have reviewed this matter from all perspectives and come to agree with AMF. Automagfreek's philosophy for war and battle is almost identical to ours and we have seen that that is not exceptable to certain nations such as Whitter. We have no wish to be destroyed or subjugated. So we ask Lord Damien to grant us the protection and friendship of Automagfreek.

Whittier was supporting a very important ally.



Your actions put the peace process in great jeopardy. And the mobilization of several Whittier Pact members did not do anything but further strain our efforts to spare DT from the flame.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

We were required by treaty to defend an ally.
And our people would not allow us to sit by and watch a potential slaughter of innocent civilians an a nation that has supported us in the past. We could not turn our backs on them in their time of need.

OOC: Actually you had some of them scared. They probably would have looked for a reason to get out early. :lol:

OOC: Sorry AMF, but I've sent you a number of telegrams and I guess you didn't get them.

IC: We have reviewed this matter from all perspectives and come to agree with AMF. Automagfreek's philosophy for war and battle is almost identical to ours and we have seen that that is not exceptable to certain nations such as Whitter. We have no wish to be destroyed or subjugated. So we ask Lord Damien to grant us the protection and friendship of Automagfreek.

We will gladly grant you protection under our banner.

Let it be known that Automagfreek will stand up for those that cannot stand up for themselves, and we do this because (contrary to popular belief) we are of the Light. Granted, we are the cold dark shadow that dwells behind the obelisk of Peace and Light, but we are there nonetheless.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

OOC: Sorry AMF, but I've sent you a number of telegrams and I guess you didn't get them.

IC: We have reviewed this matter from all perspectives and come to agree with AMF. Automagfreek's philosophy for war and battle is almost identical to ours and we have seen that that is not exceptable to certain nations such as Whitter. We have no wish to be destroyed or subjugated. So we ask Lord Damien to grant us the protection and friendship of Automagfreek.
Didn't you post this already?

We were required by treaty to defend an ally.
And our people would not allow us to sit by and watch a potential slaughter of innocent civilians an a nation that has supported us in the past. We could not turn our backs on them in their time of need.

This is understandable, but your rash actions were uncalled for. You took too many steps forward and escalated things too far. It is a good thing that you were once a friend of the Empire, for if you weren't Damien would have showed you no mercy. I'm sorry things had to end this way, but alas you chose to walk down this road.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires



OOC: Actually you had some of them scared. They probably would have looked for a reason to get out early. :lol:

OOC: LOL :twisted:

OOC: I did, but AMF's attention had moved to this thread and it helped bump up my post count. :D

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-


I dont think you realise how much that picture scares the shit out of me.

I dont think you realise how much that picture scares the shit out of me.

:twisted:

I've got many more frightening and devilish characters to come......

lol

OH YEAH? WELL TAKE THIS!









































































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All Matich forces are pulling out of DT as asked to do.

King John II

OOC: Bah... I used the Teletubbies as shock troops once.

IC: Crimmond is glad to see that this has been resolved peacefully. We are unable to render any peacekeeping services though, as we are preparing for war with another nation at this time.

OOC-2: What is with the fads? Four months ago, it was the Elves... three it was the terrorists, two it was pirates and now the favorite target is AMF...

Chellis follows suite with Automagfreek, and has not only severed all diplomatic ties with the nation of Whittier, it has also barred any chellian trade with whittier. Defidentally not a small blow, as chellis is in the top one hundred of many economic factors, including 16th in publishing and 44th in arms manufacture.

Chellis finds Whittier and the whittier pact a warmongering bunch, as they protect people who provoke wars, such as Armed Knights, and throw hundreds of millions of soldiers into a nation before war is even declared. Chellis is just glad DT did the smart thing, and would like to, although not being in APTO, bring a division of peace-keepers into DT lands, to help, as it was neutral during the wars, yet has a close operating range as it controls most of algeria.

The Tsar stated today in a Press Release, It will become AMF's Responsibility to Keep the Unity of Dr_Twist Together. How ever we are Still Waiting for Communist Forces to Leave Dr_Twist, As Capitalist Forces begun there Retreat from Dr_Twist Yesterday at the Tsar's Request.

OCC: AMF, When will you begin arriving in the Nation how will u get into the Nation and what forces are coming into the Nation? It will also be Your Job to Protect the Royal Family Until they have there own Protection.

Message from King John II to Tsar Phillip the 18th:

I hope this can be the start of a new alliance. I know we have had our ups and downs dating from before the NWO but I feel we work well and can accomplish much together. Matich will always be here to support you in your time of need and we hope we can rely on you to do the same.

Your friend and ally,
King John II

Message from King John II to Tsar Phillip the 18th:

I hope this can be the start of a new alliance. I know we have had our ups and downs dating from before the NWO but I feel we work well and can accomplish much together. Matich will always be here to support you in your time of need and we hope we can rely on you to do the same.

Your friend and ally,
King John II

Message from King John II to Tsar Phillip the 18th:

I hope this can be the start of a new alliance. I know we have had our ups and downs dating from before the NWO but I feel we work well and can accomplish much together. Matich will always be here to support you in your time of need and we hope we can rely on you to do the same.

Your friend and ally,
King John II

Dear King John II.

The Kingdom of Dr_Twist will always be at the Ready to Defend Allies who helped Remove such Forces from our Nation, We will always be in your Debt.

Tsar Phillip the 18th of Dr_Twist.

Based on the actions taken by Whittier during the attempts to resolve any DT and AMF conflicts, as well as their recent decision to side with the warmongering nation of Maghda, GM will be joining these nations in their severing of ties with Whittier. While I must admit this is more symbolic than anything, as relations between our nations were nearly non-existant, it shall be done all the same.

-Mateo McGrath, President, the Armed Republic of Great Mateo

We are most pleased that you two nations have resolved this conflict in a mature, peaceful manner -- calling an end to war and devastation. This is the high point of my day; wars raging everywhere with no signs of ending -- but you, you my friends, have agreed to end at least one more war. Hopefully other nations will follow your example.

As requested by Damien, New Genoa will gladly dispatch a small unit of peackeepers to reconstruct Twist lands if DT so wishes it. This unit will work cooperatively with the APTO Peackeeping Forces already overseas and Congress has given me the permission to keep these forces overseas for a period of six months maximum. Thus, when six months times out, New Genoese Peackeepers will either: A.) leave the country and return home, or B.) a new resolution will be ratified elongating their overseas stay. However, we are confident that six months will be ample time, especially considering the fact that Automagfreek is spearheading this peace effort.

-President Carter

OCC: Incase AMF misses this Post i have Reposted it in this Thread.

The Dr_Twist Government Agrees to everything but the Limiting of DT Forces, AMF, You and i Both know that if u come into DT there will be Blood and you can’t Guarantee Victory, There will be no DT Limiting of Arms in any way, The Present Forces have been Disbanded but they will be Rebuilt over time.

The Dr_Twist Government will refuses to Budge on this issue and limiting Forces to 5% of Laughable.

Momanguise forces have begun their withdrawal from Bulgaria. An approximate time period of three months has been allowed for a full withdrawal.

OCC: Incase AMF misses this Post i have Reposted it in this Thread.

The Dr_Twist Government Agrees to everything but the Limiting of DT Forces, AMF, You and i Both know that if u come into DT there will be Blood and you can’t Guarantee Victory, There will be no DT Limiting of Arms in any way, The Present Forces have been Disbanded but they will be Rebuilt over time.

The Dr_Twist Government will refuses to Budge on this issue and limiting Forces to 5% of Laughable.Oh, so now that there's peace you want to disagree with the terms? You are in no position to do so.

Besides, you have an absurdly large armed forces. Limiting that to 5% will still give you a few hundred thousand, which is more than enough to defend a country. You see DT, you think you can only be strong if you have millions of troops, but that is untrue. That many soldiers will only hurt you in the end.

-Damien the Destroyer-

OCC: Incase AMF misses this Post i have Reposted it in this Thread.

The Dr_Twist Government Agrees to everything but the Limiting of DT Forces, AMF, You and i Both know that if u come into DT there will be Blood and you can’t Guarantee Victory, There will be no DT Limiting of Arms in any way, The Present Forces have been Disbanded but they will be Rebuilt over time.

The Dr_Twist Government will refuses to Budge on this issue and limiting Forces to 5% of Laughable.Oh, so now that there's peace you want to disagree with the terms? You are in no position to do so.

Besides, you have an absurdly large armed forces. Limiting that to 5% will still give you a few hundred thousand, which is more than enough to defend a country. You see DT, you think you can only be strong if you have millions of troops, but that is untrue. That many soldiers will only hurt you in the end.

-Damien the Destroyer-

OCC: What do you call 5% You never stated what 5% was...? The Dr_Twist Government is prepared to have a Permanente armed Forces of .1% of the Population with the Ability for that to Grow in times of Need. AMF, There are a lot of large Nations like Whitter and Russian Forces that want AMF blood, You only have the Name of Being the Most Powerful you act as if you are the Most powerful, But the Truth is your power only goes as far as your name.

Also I never Technically Agreed to the Terms AMF.

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I stated before there technically is no Armed Forces in DT ATM, So there is 5% of Nothing which = nothing.

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I stated before there technically is no Armed Forces in DT ATM, So there is 5% of Nothing which = nothing.

Well then, why are you complaining?

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I stated before there technically is no Armed Forces in DT ATM, So there is 5% of Nothing which = nothing.

Well then, why are you complaining?

Becaues i am going to Rebuild my Armed FOrces over time, But u never Stated if that was a Perminate thing or was of Current Forces, as i will not have a Nation with no Army. This Needs to be sorted as i agree to everything else, but there is problems with this.

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I stated before there technically is no Armed Forces in DT ATM, So there is 5% of Nothing which = nothing.

Well then, why are you complaining?

Becaues i am going to Rebuild my Armed FOrces over time, But u never Stated if that was a Perminate thing or was of Current Forces, as i will not have a Nation with no Army. This Needs to be sorted as i agree to everything else, but there is problems with this.
As long as there are peacekeepers in your country, keep your armed forces at 5% (basing that number off your army's usual size).

I said 5% of your current armed forces.

I stated before there technically is no Armed Forces in DT ATM, So there is 5% of Nothing which = nothing.

Well then, why are you complaining?

Becaues i am going to Rebuild my Armed FOrces over time, But u never Stated if that was a Perminate thing or was of Current Forces, as i will not have a Nation with no Army. This Needs to be sorted as i agree to everything else, but there is problems with this.
As long as there are peacekeepers in your country, keep your armed forces at 5% (basing that number off your army's usual size).

10% and After these Peace Keepers Leave, I will have the Freedom to do what i want with my Armed Forces. But the Tsar has the Right to Request Peace Keepers to Leave After a Certain predetermined time.

Quite frankly I couldn't care less if Whittier was defending their allies, they endangered a diplomatic process with hasty action and while Iuthia may not have been entirely informed ourselves, we did not deploy forces on such little information.

Whats more, they made a point of insulting Lord Dreadfire during the entire process... yet they cliam to be superior to Automagfreek in diplomacy. Clearly the results speak for themselves and we will leave Whittier on our Black List for as long as it takes them to learn better forms of diplomacy.

Thanks,

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10% and After these Peace Keepers Leave, I will have the Freedom to do what i want with my Armed Forces. But the Tsar has the Right to Request Peace Keepers to Leave After a Certain predetermined time.

I will not budge on the 5%. 5% of what your normal military is still very high, I don't see what the probelm is, and my terms are not out of line.

It's either that or I pack up and leave Dr_Twist for the wolves.

Quite frankly I couldn't care less if Whittier was defending their allies, they endangered a diplomatic process with hasty action and while Iuthia may not have been entirely informed ourselves, we did not deploy forces on such little information.

Whats more, they made a point of insulting Lord Dreadfire during the entire process... yet they cliam to be superior to Automagfreek in diplomacy. Clearly the results speak for themselves and we will leave Whittier on our Black List for as long as it takes them to learn better forms of diplomacy.

Thanks,

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OCC: You have a right to your Own opinion, and I agree, However Whitter Was Defending me as i would of done for him if he was Invaded. All sides over reacted and Didn't Receive Information about the Subject.

How ever i am Still trying to get a response from AMF for these Terms which clearly Prosecute the new Tsar Government which has always been PRO AMF, for the Actions of the Old Communist Government which was Strongly Anti-AMF.

10% and After these Peace Keepers Leave, I will have the Freedom to do what i want with my Armed Forces. But the Tsar has the Right to Request Peace Keepers to Leave After a Certain predetermined time.

I will not budge on the 5%. 5% of what your normal military is still very high, I don't see what the probelm is, and my terms are not out of line.

It's either that or I pack up and leave Dr_Twist for the wolves.

If i was to bring it Down to 5% does the Rest of that Agreement stand, This is what i am more intrested in at this time.

If i was to bring it Down to 5% does the Rest of that Agreement stand, This is what i am more intrested in at this time.

Yes, it would. That 5% willstand until peacekeeping forces leave, then we will talk about possibly raising that number.

If i was to bring it Down to 5% does the Rest of that Agreement stand, This is what i am more intrested in at this time.

Yes, it would. That 5% willstand until peacekeeping forces leave, then we will talk about possibly raising that number.

That Number should Become the Choice of the Tsar, It should not be Influence by outside Nations at that stage, But the DT Government stated before we were going to have a permanent Army of 0.1% of the DT Population, And that number would only Rise in times of Need.

Look at the terms again Twist:

1. DT will, without undue expanse of time between acceptance and enactment, follow the letter and wording of these demands to the letter.
2. DT will, within the bounds of reasonability, reduce its armed forces to a size approximately 5% of its current armed forces size.
3. DT will, within the bounds of reasonability, provide all and any evidence within its possession that supports/damages the building case against that nation for undue and erroneous global activities/crimes against Automagfreek (and Greek) citizens/use of WMD. Failure to comply will result in the information being extracted by AMF forces.
4. DT will swear fealty to The Destroyer.
5. DT will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.
6. DT is henceforth considered a vassal territory aligned with the Excessively Armed Empire.

The bolded terms are the ones you are not abiding by.

It would be our choice of your military's size, because according to the terms you'd be a vassal state of AMF.

Look at the terms again Twist:

1. DT will, without undue expanse of time between acceptance and enactment, follow the letter and wording of these demands to the letter.
2. DT will, within the bounds of reasonability, reduce its armed forces to a size approximately 5% of its current armed forces size.
3. DT will, within the bounds of reasonability, provide all and any evidence within its possession that supports/damages the building case against that nation for undue and erroneous global activities/crimes against Automagfreek (and Greek) citizens/use of WMD. Failure to comply will result in the information being extracted by AMF forces.
4. DT will swear fealty to The Destroyer.
5. DT will make no effort to resist should the Empire feel it necessary to occupy that nation. Should resistance occur, the Empire will use any means necessary to end the rebellion.
6. DT is henceforth considered a vassal territory aligned with the Excessively Armed Empire.

The bolded terms are the ones you are not abiding by.

It would be our choice of your military's size, because according to the terms you'd be a vassal state of AMF.

OCC: AMF I will choice my Own Force Numbers after you Leave or a % Factor has to be put in Place for the size of DT Forces after you Leave then certain sections need to be added that would Give DT the Right to increase its Force Strength in Times of Need. Future Force Numbers have to be Determined right no as i will not be Shafted. You still conveniently haven’t Said anything about the Punishing of the Tsar for something he never did.

OCC: AMF I will choice my Own Force Numbers after you Leave or a % Factor has to be put in Place for the size of DT Forces after you Leave then certain sections need to be added that would Give DT the Right to increase its Force Strength in Times of Need. Future Force Numbers have to be Determined right no as i will not be Shafted. You still conveniently haven’t Said anything about the Punishing of the Tsar for something he never did.

OOC: Look Twist, I've made it painfully clear that Damien does not care about who is innocent or guilty, all he cares about is the fact that Dr_Twist WMD was used on AMF Greece. Stop confusing IC with OOC.

Damien is not going to give the Tsar any liberties, because frankly you're lucky he didn't just go ahead and level you.

OCC: AMF I will choice my Own Force Numbers after you Leave or a % Factor has to be put in Place for the size of DT Forces after you Leave then certain sections need to be added that would Give DT the Right to increase its Force Strength in Times of Need. Future Force Numbers have to be Determined right no as i will not be Shafted. You still conveniently haven’t Said anything about the Punishing of the Tsar for something he never did.

OOC: Look Twist, I've made it painfully clear that Damien does not care about who is innocent or guilty, all he cares about is the fact that Dr_Twist WMD was used on AMF Greece. Stop confusing IC with OOC.

Damien is not going to give the Tsar any liberties, because frankly you're lucky he didn't just go ahead and level you.

OCC: AMF if i agree to all of this u get a Fuck load out of it, Give you should be giving leeway, because if u did have to invade my Nation you know well and speak truthfully, You would be going into a Hornets Nest, RF Wants Blood and now Does whitter if u were to come into my Nation you would be going into a Hornets Nest, All i want is a predetermined % of the Population that would be allowed in the Armed Forces after u leave with the Right to increase that during Times of Need i have Offered 0.1% Which is a little over 2.7 Million Permanent Troops. I don't see a Problem with this but you are just making it Difficult.

OCC: AMF if i agree to all of this u get a f--- load out of it, Give you should be giving leeway, because if u did have to invade my Nation you know well and speak truthfully, You would be going into a Hornets Nest, RF Wants Blood and now Does whitter if u were to come into my Nation you would be going into a Hornets Nest, All i want is a predetermined % of the Population that would be allowed in the Armed Forces after u leave with the Right to increase that during Times of Need i have Offered 0.1% Which is a little over 2.7 Million Permanent Troops. I don't see a Problem with this but you are just making it Difficult.

OOC: Of course I'm making this difficult, you had to drag me into a situation I wanted no part of.

I'm sure we can always go with the intended plan, divide Dr_Twist up amongst those that were in the war. Basically, you'd be a "WW2 Germany". Do you want that instead? Because if I step aside that will be a reailty, then you really won't have a country.

OCC: AMF if i agree to all of this u get a f--- load out of it, Give you should be giving leeway, because if u did have to invade my Nation you know well and speak truthfully, You would be going into a Hornets Nest, RF Wants Blood and now Does whitter if u were to come into my Nation you would be going into a Hornets Nest, All i want is a predetermined % of the Population that would be allowed in the Armed Forces after u leave with the Right to increase that during Times of Need i have Offered 0.1% Which is a little over 2.7 Million Permanent Troops. I don't see a Problem with this but you are just making it Difficult.

OOC: Of course I'm making this difficult, you had to drag me into a situation I wanted no part of.

I'm sure we can always go with the intended plan, divide Dr_Twist up amongst those that were in the war. Basically, you'd be a "WW2 Germany". Do you want that instead? Because if I step aside that will be a reailty, then you really won't have a country.

OCC: I have Stated again and Again all i want is a pre Determined % of Armed Forces in DT, Because we would technically be a Vassal State of AMF, wouldn't such Armed Forces be Beneficial to AMF in wars? I can't see how Limiting DT Forces would Help AMF, because if there was an Agreement on DT Sized Military Forces before hand these forces could easily be used to AID AMF during war's because we would technically be a Vassal State, So wouldn't a Large Military in DT Actually be beneficial to AMF then having a Small Military?

OOC: It's for AMF's best interests (safety wise) that your military remain somewhat limited. I know it sucks, but you kinda brought this on yourself.

OOC: It's for AMF's best interests (safety wise) that your military remain somewhat limited. I know it sucks, but you kinda brought this on yourself.

OCC: This Area needs to be Cleaned up, Because if i Agree i would technically be a Vassal State, At the Start of the RP i told everyone involved the Outcome of the War would Determined the Future of my Nation for ATLEAST the next 3 Months, So technically i have no choice but to follow AMF and his Interests....

OCC: This Area needs to be Cleaned up, Because if i Agree i would technically be a Vassal State, At the Start of the RP i told everyone involved the Outcome of the War would Determined the Future of my Nation for ATLEAST the next 3 Months, So technically i have no choice but to follow AMF and his Interests....

OOC: Worry not, everybody's nation goes through hard times. A brighter day will come.

OCC: This Area needs to be Cleaned up, Because if i Agree i would technically be a Vassal State, At the Start of the RP i told everyone involved the Outcome of the War would Determined the Future of my Nation for ATLEAST the next 3 Months, So technically i have no choice but to follow AMF and his Interests....

OOC: Worry not, everybody's nation goes through hard times. A brighter day will come.

Are Credonian forces ordered to leave DT?

OCC: This Area needs to be Cleaned up, Because if i Agree i would technically be a Vassal State, At the Start of the RP i told everyone involved the Outcome of the War would Determined the Future of my Nation for ATLEAST the next 3 Months, So technically i have no choice but to follow AMF and his Interests....

OOC: Worry not, everybody's nation goes through hard times. A brighter day will come.

OCC: All we want it a Permanent 0.1% Armed Forces with that Able to Increase in times of Need, This is all we want, All of the Major Nations Involved Knew that the Point of the RP was to Determine my Nations Future and the Winner would be able to Whiled massive influence into the Government, AMF if u think about it this would be a massive Help to you because of the Help it would bring during Wars and other Peace Keeping Missions. AMF Take advantage while u still can...

Are Credonian forces ordered to leave DT?

OCC: At this Time we would like Credonia to Stay in the Nation, Until we have At least Finished Hammering out the Terms, Also we would like Credonia to be Part of the Peacekeeping Mission with VL and Miatch within DT.

IDF will now remove troops

Magdha applauds this effort and hereby condemns the Whittier pact for their support of terrorism and genocide. We are hereby cutting all relations to the nation of Whittier and Whittier PAct nations who do not withdraw from the pact within 24 hours.

Good, good...all the better. Clear the way for the Northwestern Liang to run you over.

OOC: being a vassal means you do what he says. Even if it means limiting your troops. If not for that part, I could more easily justify helping you. But you signed a treaty agreeing to this.

IC: If DT were to end up like post WWII Germany, the nonAMF half would still be run by the DT royal family who would be free to run their affairs as they see fit.

OOC: vassal- 1. A person who held land from a feudal lord and received protection in return for homage and allegiance.
2. A bondman; a slave.
3. A subordinate or dependent.
from the latin: vassallus

Chellis would like to point out that if DT used 2% of its population in the army normally, and was forced to have only 5% of that, its military would be 2,727,000 strong. If it had a 0.1% of its population in the military, it would be 2,727,000 strong. Chellis thinks you two are arguing with each other for the same number. The equivilent of being offered a car for 8,000, and wanting it lowered to 8,000.

Chellis would like to point out that if DT used 2% of its population in the army normally, and was forced to have only 5% of that, its military would be 2,727,000 strong. If it had a 0.1% of its population in the military, it would be 2,727,000 strong. Chellis thinks you two are arguing with each other for the same number. The equivilent of being offered a car for 8,000, and wanting it lowered to 8,000.

OOC: We are arguing over him upping his military after he's been rebuilt. I say no, he says yes.

So now are Matich forces being asked to stay? I was under the impression that I was asked to leave.

OOC: Well, as someone just watching, I say that's something you too need to hammer out IC, not with OOC bickering that will ultimatly lead to either an IC discussion or an ignore.

The Eurydian Republic is willing to send peacekeeping soldiers. If we are accepted, 25,000-50,000 soldiers can be dispatched to DT immediatly.

-Arthur Guilder
Titanus Starbase Imperial Governor

Chellis would like to point out that if DT used 2% of its population in the army normally, and was forced to have only 5% of that, its military would be 2,727,000 strong. If it had a 0.1% of its population in the military, it would be 2,727,000 strong. Chellis thinks you two are arguing with each other for the same number. The equivilent of being offered a car for 8,000, and wanting it lowered to 8,000.

OCC: I have No idea were u got those Numbers, But i only used 1% and NEVER went above that unless it was Needed.

OOC: being a vassal means you do what he says. Even if it means limiting your troops. If not for that part, I could more easily justify helping you. But you signed a treaty agreeing to this.

IC: If DT were to end up like post WWII Germany, the nonAMF half would still be run by the DT royal family who would be free to run their affairs as they see fit.

OOC: vassal- 1. A person who held land from a feudal lord and received protection in return for homage and allegiance.
2. A bondman; a slave.
3. A subordinate or dependent.
from the latin: vassallus

Whitter Technically i haven’t signed Because i would have to Agreed to Everything that was Stated, Which is trying to Be Hammered out here.

OCC: Also Whitter i have Contacted RF on the Issue and he is rearing to go he has contacted IF as well with a few others.

Chellis would like to point out that if DT used 2% of its population in the army normally, and was forced to have only 5% of that, its military would be 2,727,000 strong. If it had a 0.1% of its population in the military, it would be 2,727,000 strong. Chellis thinks you two are arguing with each other for the same number. The equivilent of being offered a car for 8,000, and wanting it lowered to 8,000.

OOC: We are arguing over him upping his military after he's been rebuilt. I say no, he says yes.

AMF You haven’t Really given me a Good Reason why i shouldn't be able to...., I stated above the more forces i have in my Nation the more Beneficial it would be.

Also AMF You are Prosecuting the Royal Family for what the Communists did, This Really isn't a Fair Part of RP, RP the Character’s AMF!

AMF You haven’t Really given me a Good Reason why i shouldn't be able to...., I stated above the more forces i have in my Nation the more Beneficial it would be.

Also AMF You are Prosecuting the Royal Family for what the Communists did, This Really isn't a Fair Part of RP, RP the Character’s AMF!

I have officially lost my patience with you, and I have a damn name you know, not "AMF". You will address me as Damien or Lord Dreadfire, show some goddamn resepct. Your country is guilty of this regardless of who is at the helm. You have whined and bickered about my terms which are supposed to be absolute. Consider this your final warning to comply. I don't give a crap how beneficial you say your forces are, because frankly your forces are nothing but shit to me. I see Dr_Twist as a threat to AMF security RE-FUCKIN-GARDLESS of who is in charge.

You are damn lucky I didn't just blast your nation into dust, and I do you a favor by offering to rebuild and stabilize your country only to have you bicker because you want to have more troops. Sorry sweetheart, your fucking country attacked MY territory, end of fucking list. Comply or die, I am tired of playing games with you.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

AMF You haven’t Really given me a Good Reason why i shouldn't be able to...., I stated above the more forces i have in my Nation the more Beneficial it would be.

Also AMF You are Prosecuting the Royal Family for what the Communists did, This Really isn't a Fair Part of RP, RP the Character’s AMF!

I have officially lost my patience with you, and I have a damn name you know, not "AMF". You will address me as Damien or Lord Dreadfire, show some goddamn resepct. Your country is guilty of this regardless of who is at the helm. You have whined and bickered about my terms which are supposed to be absolute. Consider this your final warning to comply. I don't give a crap how beneficial you say your forces are, because frankly your forces are nothing but shit to me. I see Dr_Twist as a threat to AMF security RE-FUCKIN-GARDLESS of who is in charge.

You are damn lucky I didn't just blast your nation into dust, and I do you a favor by offering to rebuild and stabilize your country only to have you bicker because you want to have more troops. Sorry sweetheart, your f--- country attacked MY territory, end of f--- list. Comply or die, I am tired of playing games with you.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p984672.jpg
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

OCC: Then i am Sorry AMF War is coming, The Whitter Pact and the RBA have been Notified, There is no longer a Choice of What Happens.

OCC: Then i am Sorry AMF War is coming, The Whitter Pact and the RBA have been Notified, There is no longer a Choice of What Happens.

OOC: Can you PLEASE for the love of Christ keep things IC? I'm a half a second away from ignoring you, and I do know if it comes to war I'll be number and picture wanked until my eyes bleed.

OCC: Then i am Sorry AMF War is coming, The Whitter Pact and the RBA have been Notified, There is no longer a Choice of What Happens.

OOC: Can you PLEASE for the love of Christ keep things IC? I'm a half a second away from ignoring you, and I do know if it comes to war I'll be number and picture wanked until my eyes bleed.

OCC: AMF You would have to Put Up with RF and others because if u invade me you will have to Accept them, Because you aren’t a Bright Star ether, You seem to think You have Endless power around here, Its about time some 1 standed up to you :roll:

OCC: AMF You would have to Put Up with RF and others because if u invade me you will have to Accept them, Because you aren’t a Bright Star ether, You seem to think You have Endless power around here, Its about time some 1 standed up to you :roll:

OOC: Hah, you wish. I ignored RF a half a year ago, and my ignore still stands.

As far as me not being a "Bright Star", I'd beg to differ. My writing skills alone give me more than enough edge on most anybody. This may sound arrogant, but I'd prefer a well written story as opposed to dozens of pictures in a post.

Now, if you trail out of IC discussion one more time, I am permanently ignoring you. I will not be baited and I will not risk another moderator warning.

OCC: Then i am Sorry AMF War is coming, The Whitter Pact and the RBA have been Notified, There is no longer a Choice of What Happens.

OOC: Can you PLEASE for the love of Christ keep things IC? I'm a half a second away from ignoring you, and I do know if it comes to war I'll be number and picture wanked until my eyes bleed.

OCC: AMF You would have to Put Up with RF and others because if u invade me you will have to Accept them, Because you aren’t a Bright Star ether, You seem to think You have Endless power around here, Its about time some 1 standed up to you :roll:

OOC: You mean 'one' not '1'.

OCC: AMF You would have to Put Up with RF and others because if u invade me you will have to Accept them, Because you aren’t a Bright Star ether, You seem to think You have Endless power around here, Its about time some 1 standed up to you :roll:

OOC: Hah, you wish. I ignored RF a half a year ago, and my ignore still stands.

As far as me not being a "Bright Star", I'd beg to differ. My writing skills alone give me more than enough edge on most anybody. This may sound arrogant, but I'd prefer a well written story as opposed to dozens of pictures in a post.

Now, if you trail out of IC discussion one more time, I am permanently ignoring you. I will not be baited and I will not risk another moderator warning.

OCC: that isn't it when i got him to Protect Greece a while back after the Ignore you didn't say anything then...? If you are going to Invade me you have to Recognize him or i wont Recognize you.

I GTG, ill BBL.

Bah. Dr_Twist is ignored for being little better than Normack at satying IC.

AMF You haven’t Really given me a Good Reason why i shouldn't be able to...., I stated above the more forces i have in my Nation the more Beneficial it would be.

Also AMF You are Prosecuting the Royal Family for what the Communists did, This Really isn't a Fair Part of RP, RP the Character’s AMF!

I have officially lost my patience with you, and I have a damn name you know, not "AMF". You will address me as Damien or Lord Dreadfire, show some goddamn resepct. Your country is guilty of this regardless of who is at the helm. You have whined and bickered about my terms which are supposed to be absolute. Consider this your final warning to comply. I don't give a crap how beneficial you say your forces are, because frankly your forces are nothing but shit to me. I see Dr_Twist as a threat to AMF security RE-FUCKIN-GARDLESS of who is in charge.

You are damn lucky I didn't just blast your nation into dust, and I do you a favor by offering to rebuild and stabilize your country only to have you bicker because you want to have more troops. Sorry sweetheart, your f--- country attacked MY territory, end of f--- list. Comply or die, I am tired of playing games with you.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p984672.jpg
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Satan shows his true colors.

OCC: that isn't it when i got him to Protect Greece a while back after the Ignore you didn't say anything then...? If you are going to Invade me you have to Recognize him or i wont Recognize you.

I GTG, ill BBL.

OOC: Alright, you made your decision. I specifically said no more OOC discussion, but you obviously either

A. Didn't read my post at all

or

B. You just don't respect my wishes to keep this thing IC.

Therefore Twist from this moment on, consider yourself ignored by me for failure to maintain a proper RP. I will not waste my time with someone who cannot forumulate proper sentences and use proper grammar and refuses to respect my OOC wishes.

Please do not follow me around, because I WILL go straight to the mods. I want you to leave me alone, savvy? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to RP an invasion of Greece with The Trojan Empire.

Later.

Satan shows his true colors.OOC: This is by far the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.

This is DAMIEN DREADFIRE you're talking about! Satan probably wants to shake his hand! :lol:

OCC: that isn't it when i got him to Protect Greece a while back after the Ignore you didn't say anything then...? If you are going to Invade me you have to Recognize him or i wont Recognize you.

I GTG, ill BBL.

OOC: Alright, you made your decision. I specifically said no more OOC discussion, but you obviously either

A. Didn't read my post at all

or

B. You just don't respect my wishes to keep this thing IC.

Therefore Twist from this moment on, consider yourself ignored by me for failure to maintain a proper RP. I will not waste my time with someone who cannot forumulate proper sentences and use proper grammar and refuses to respect my OOC wishes.

Please do not follow me around, because I WILL go straight to the mods. I want you to leave me alone, savvy? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to RP an invasion of Greece with The Trojan Empire.

Later.
Sounds like someone got a head full of hot air.

Sounds like someone got a head full of hot air.

OOC: In a freeform RP environment, I can chose to ignore who I want when I want. Call it whatever you will, but I no longer want to waste time with someone who cannot properly RP. My past 2 months have been wasted on n00bs and people who cannot RP, and I say no more.

I am having a mod lock this thread now.

Sounds like someone got a head full of hot air. What the hell you talkin' about? Twist won't RP correctly and switches back and forth between IC an OOC on whims so AMF is ignoring him. If AMF did the same, you'd ignore him in two seconds.

Sounds like someone got a head full of hot air.

OOC: In a freeform RP environment, I can chose to ignore who I want when I want. Call it whatever you will, but I no longer want to waste time with someone who cannot properly RP. My past 2 months have been wasted on n00bs and people who cannot RP, and I say no more.

I am having a mod lock this thread now.
I never said you didn't. You just too impatient with people and you do act rather arrogantly in your posts.

I never said you didn't. You just too impatient with people and you do act rather arrogantly in your posts.

OOC: EXCUSE ME? I pray you are not refering to my OOC posts, because I would take great offense to that. Of course my IC posts are arrogant, I have an arrogant leader!

Jeez...... :roll:

I never said you didn't. You just too impatient with people and you do act rather arrogantly in your posts.

OOC: EXCUSE ME? I pray you are not refering to my OOC posts, because I would take great offense to that. Of course my IC posts are arrogant, I have an arrogant leader!

Jeez...... :roll:

If you are here whos running hell?

Whittier called someone else impatient? Wow...

Not that sending 120m troops to a nation before even a war occurs is impatient...

Thread locked as per request.


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