NationStates Jolt Archive

In Recent Light Of haring about the Doujinishi Corporation our ships SUCK compared to theres.

Price?

It Depends what you what
The Base Model COmes with Conventoil Egnines and no extra weapons.
ANd if you top it off it costs more.
Base:
100 Million Dollars
Top Of The Line:
900 billion Dollars

Is that a good price?

These Ships kick a great deal of ass.
There will be even more powerful versions comming. Soon.
Hopefull we have the Single Laser Turret worked out by then

Keep in mind these are NOT 16 inch laser turrets. They are like the Size of 5 inch guns. And are best used for anti aircraft they fire in short bursts and require you to have the Nuclear Power Option.

The 16 inch guns use shells.

BUMPAGE I want Money

I'll buy 1 of the 'top of the line' bases for $900 billion. (lets out a long whistle) Kinda pricey, but that's all right. Money has been wired.

ill buy 20 top of the line 900 bil x 20

Alright AT Roach-Busters- Money Has Been Recived and you can expect the Ship In The Next Few Days.
You Have Orderd:
1 Top Of The Line ECF Battleship:
9-16inch Guns
Harphoon Anti Ship Misslis
Tomahawk Cruse Missles
High Power Nuclear Reactor
3 Laser Turrets Which Can Be upgraded once a more powerful powerplan is avelible
1: Biological Weapon System
1:Chemical Weapon System
1:Nuclear Weapon System
Sephrioth: See Above:you have ordered 20 Please Wire The Money Soon Or you will not revceive your ships.

The East Coast Federation Is Happy to Deal with you

monney wired we wired 444444 billion u.s.d

No ones going to want to mess with your navy.
Expect the Ships within the next several weeks as we'll have to train your Navy Personel to use this thing :)


These Ships are going fast and it's only a Matter of time before we run out.
Once The New Model is out you can back order the current model.

Get This The New Model Is going to have a New Type Of Missle.
Not a Missle from another nation. It will be hombrewed by ECF.

The Federation Aims to provide nations with Protection if they cant or don't want to build there own Navy.


From Now On You'll Have a whole Menu to pick from and can customize it the way you want.

In order to try and Stay Ahead of Other Nations all ships will be Nuclear Powered.
We are currently Investigating a possible Laser Turret for use agnist other ships.

We strive To Stay Ahead of everyone else.

We are currently Investigating the Possiblity of Creating A Fighter Plan.

Of crouse the ones built for the ECF are going to have Classified Weapon systems. But hey were peaceful most of the time.
Once these systems Become declassified they will be avlibkle to you.

I would say from what you discirbed the Top of The Line would be mroe like 300 billion, not no 900bil....anyways, I am interested, But I'll keep my pocket book for now.

Intriguing. However, the fusion-powered Gorak-class Motherships developed by the Ghargant Imperial Military are sufficient for our needs. At this time we do not require foreign goraak spoiling our naval capabilities.

I would say from what you discirbed the Top of The Line would be mroe like 300 billion, not no 900bil....anyways, I am interested, But I'll keep my pocket book for now.
As I said. The Reason the Top of The Line costs so much is because our Laser Tech is very new.
We'll Be Introducing out next model soon(somtimes tonight in real time)
And we expect the Mid Range Model to be as powerful as the Top Of The Line And it will only hos 340 Billion.
Never expect the Next Top Of The Line MOdel to dip below 600 Billion.
We see the Need to develop of Navy to it's fullest extent. And Our Pouring our Money INto it. Expect more VERY powerful BattleShips Comming from out nation.

I apologize for the 1st model being so expensive?

Fusion? Pah that would drive up costs to much



goraak: got that out of the Klingon Dictonary I'm assuming?

Ghargonian, actually. Few Ghargonians bother to learn foreign languages, only the few ambassadors we have. A Gorak is a type of rather vicious, surprisingly large canine resident to this region. Goraak refers to the female of the species, and is frequently used as a negative word to describe people, quality of products or technology, or anything else really, because of how comparatively small they are.
Fusion power may be expensive, but it is required for the size and complexity of our Motherships. However we do not have very many of them; this limits our flexibility. Perhaps... a deal can be reached?

List Some SPecs? Exactly How Powerful are they? Kuz we have some new Disgins on the drawing Board. Your quite a small nation how do you suport a Ship like that? The reason we use fission is that we can draw just as much power from a Fission Reactor!

East Coast Federation Class Version 2:
East Coast Curise Missle: Capable of Flying 1,000 miles Carrying Any Type Of Warhead You Desire
16inch Guns With Improved Range 21 Miles: If you every get in close ship to ship combat these are capable Of Smashing just about anything great for Shore Bombartment
Harphoon AntiShip Missle: At this time we do not see a need for an improved Anti Ship Missile However our variets are slightly faster
67,000 Tons:
Hull: Steel/NEW! Titanium armor 8 Inchs Inchs Thick ( add 120 Million)
High Powerd Fission Reactors Capable of Driving the Ship at 45 Knots
NOW COMES STANDRAD!:Laser Turrets Capble Of Nailing any Aircraft Below 25,000 Feet .
NEW!: One 5 Inch Laser Turret Which is best used for ship to ship combat. While Not as powerful as our 16inch Guns is can be used to suppelment them.
802 Feet Long and 100 Feet Wide.
NEW!: We no longer use propellers We use massive Jets there are two Maximum drive units on the Stern and 2 smaller weaker ones on each side. While Raiding an Enemy Habor you can pivot in a 90 degree fashion.
Crew: 1,300 We will train your people
NEW! Improved Computer Targeting System: For those of you who purchased our other models we realize that the targetting system well............sucked we will upgrade yours free of charge.
NEW!: Anti Sumbmarine Charges
All This for a mere 1 Billion!
Add This if you want to take on these so called Mother Ship
NEW!: Upgrade your Standrad 16 Inch Guns to 'Super 16 Inch Guns" whats the difference you may ask? While They have the same Range The New Type Of Gun Powder used provides much more force at closer * 5 mile* ranges-add 100 Million
Biological Weapon System: Add 1 Million
ChemiCal Weapon System: Add 1 Million
Nuclear Weapon System: add 2 billion

We only Offer OneModel Now this one, older models my be back ordered for 100 Billion
There are not very Many Ships that can stand up that.

test Of the New Super Guns
http://www.bearsystems.com/battleships/bb.jpg

As Far as I know we are the Only Nation Offereing Battleships of this type.

Hmmm, I bet the Doujin Class could take it out. It would be fun to see either way though.

Hey If Anyone wants to see how well there ship matchs up agnist ares please post the specs I want to see what else is out there.
Remeber every Model From Is More Powerful.

However these are only about 3/4 as powerful and advanced as the ones that the East Coast Navy Uses.

The size of our nation is not the factor you should be considering, but the origin. Suffice to say, we've had an extensive period of time to develop our technology. Advanced as it is, we haven't the numbers as of yet to mount an offensive against a larger power. But against any equally sized power, or even slightly larger, our military forces excel.
Detailed data regarding any of our four Motherships is classified under military code 34 section B. However the generic specification is not. A Ghargonian Mothership is an ocean-going carrier/battleship armed with particle accelerator blasters as primary guns, secondary rapid-pulse fire laser guns, standard-yield daranium tipped submersive torpedo launchers, a compliment of 70 'Shrike'-class fighter/bombers capable of extra terrestrial flight thanks to ion pulse engines, and a standard issue 2,500,000 terrajoule graviton 'FireWall' shield. Fusion generation is a requirement given the sheer power some of the weapons and defenses drain.
As advanced as that sounds, it would only really take a four or five such battleships to bring down the shield and begin inflicting damage on the primary hull, assuming they had fighter support.
The cost to manufacture a new Gorak-class Mothership with fighter compliment is phenomenal. We can only produce one or two at most every ten years given our resources, and we only do so at such a rate when necessary -- for now we have no further Goraks under construction. They are roughly the same size as the 'USS Enterprise' aircraft carrier. So you see, our naval forces are only flexible enough for solo patrol missions or home defence. In major offensive actions, they frequently find themselves overwhelmed.

The Emperor has expressed an interest in purchasing some of your battleships, another demonstration of his policies are becoming less and less isolationist, but there you go. However, he feels the price for a single battleship is on the excessive side. We have enough Gonars, but this does not readily convert to standard monetary value. We can raise enough for four battleships, but would like to offer perhaps some technology for a fifth?

Ahh I see, The Battleships for Sale are only 3/4 as powerful as the ones that Fly The Federation Flag.
hmmm How fast are you motherships?
It would appear we are going to need to develop some sort of Missle Capable Of hitting fighters like that as if you can develop it someone else could.
In a one on one fight one of our "own" ships might be able to inflict some damage but by no means would win.



You must have noticed that the price has dropped by well ALOT.
This is because the 1dt Ships were very expensive.
We have around 60 EFC Class Ships partoling are waters.
We are developing a carriaer of our own.

If you can rasie The Money which I know you can.
Do you know how to handle Fission Reactors? If not treated Properly they tend to expode.

Our ships are very durable and Upgradeble.
If we were to sell you some when they arrive would you like a Glimpse of some of our Full Sized Fully Powered EFC Classes used buy are navy?

The Goraks can manage just a few knots higher than the battleships you have listed. Their weight is quite excessive. The Shrikes can achieve speeds of up to 15,000-20,000 kph, but that is only really necessary in extra terrestrial flight. They usually keep to about 1,000kph in atmosphere. Shields or no, 20,000 kph would tear them apart.

The price may have dropped, but we tend to avoid dealing with foreign nations, so our currency is totally incompatible. We have access to dollars, but only enough for four, so I suppose that will be our order.
I know the Emperor has a fascination with foreign shipping, so I'm sure he would very much like to catch a glimpse of your fully-operational 'EFC' class ships.

As for fission reactors, they used to be in wide use both in power stations and naval vessels, not to mention a few airborne 'units'. I'm sure there are still some instructions and notes hidden somewhere in the archives which we could use to retrain those personnel responsible for them. As you mentioned they are upgradable, we may end up adding fusion generators to them anyway, to meet safety and efficiency regulations.

So that's four battleships. The appropriate currency is being prepared as we speak.

35,000ton battle ship....
with 9 16" guns...
no apparent knowledge of how ballistics work...


Hamanistan:
never mind a Doujin, even a pegaus hydrofoil could take this

At Crookfur: The Iowa's weighed in the NeighborHood of 40,000 tons and they manged to get along fine.

At Ghargonia: Before you Purchase them we are sending one of newest ships the ECF Enterprise to your Capital City and your empoorer(SP) will recive a full tour of all non classified Weapon Systems These Inculde
The 3 16" Inch Gun Turrets
Crew Quarers
Reactor 1 and 2
Captains Mess
Laser Control Systems
Computer Core
Wheelhouse
If you have any Old Ships you dont want your President can take a few Manuel Aimed Shots at them with the 16 inch Guns?


Don't try anything funny as in attack the ship kuz it's comming on a PEACEFUL mission.

Your Ships May Be Delayed because we are still building them(in the readl world a tree fell on my Grandpa's house so were gonna help him clean up)

Once the ships are complete you will recive them.
( be back on monday guys)

700 of the new model please money sent on confirmation

This battleship is huge for its armament, and way too light. The battleship hasn't been ignored (not on NS) as most navies have them and all the naval storefronts I know of sell battleships.

I suggest you look here (www.geocities.com/doujincorp) for examples of NS battleships.

At Crookfur: The Iowa's weighed in the NeighborHood of 40,000 tons and they manged to get along fine.

Um, no the design standard was 45,000 tons, that being said any one who understands displ. knows design standards are on the order of the lightest a ship will be without stripping off things like armour, gun turrets, etc etc...
The actual displacment of a loaded Iowa...well here:
"Probably the finest battleships of all time. The second pair of ships had been planned as Montana class ships, but they were changed to Iowas to speed production. Reactivated for Korean War service in WWII configuration. The class was nearly discarded in 1974. Entire class extensively updated in the 1980's:

Displ: 57,350 tons full load "
Courtesy of The Battlseship Society.
http://www.bb62museum.org/

It Depends what you what
The Base Model COmes with Conventoil Egnines and no extra weapons.
ANd if you top it off it costs more.
Base:
100 Million Dollars
Top Of The Line:
900 billion Dollars

Is that a good price?

These Ships kick a great deal of ass.
There will be even more powerful versions comming. Soon.
Hopefull we have the Single Laser Turret worked out by then

Keep in mind these are NOT 16 inch laser turrets. They are like the Size of 5 inch guns. And are best used for anti aircraft they fire in short bursts and require you to have the Nuclear Power Option.

The 16 inch guns use shells.

At Crookfur: The Iowa's weighed in the NeighborHood of 40,000 tons and they manged to get along fine.

As Erin Said the initail design weight was 45,000tons with the service weights of all of the vessels biult being well over 55,000tons.

Although from your original stats you could have gotten away with the 9 guns as you had a tiny amount of armour (3/4" of titanium would give roughly the same protection as the same amount of steel but would be lighter of course neither would stop much beyond infantry small arms)
try looking in the NS section for the Warships thread by Clan Smoke Jaguar it will be very helpful.

Thanks Alot.
I remeber reading about Battlships when I was kid so I don't remeber everything. Plus the books only listed hull Weight not the full weigh when compelted. SO cut me Some Slack,
Anyway I will Lower the Price to 1 Billion: I'll just increase Weight and armor,
Thanks for the advice dudes,

Out Goal is not to make super Battlships, But Battlships that can swarm and overwhelm the enemy like these can.

Thanks Alot.
I remeber reading about Battlships when I was kid so I don't remeber everything. Plus the books only listed hull Weight not the full weigh when compelted. SO cut me Some Slack,
Anyway I will Lower the Price to 1 Billion: I'll just increase Weight and armor,
Thanks for the advice dudes,

I don't know all this stuff about ships. Tis was my 1st try

These ships are Desinged For Navys that can't afford those super battlships,
These Ships are also the Last Of There Kind,

We are beginning an Alliance with the navy of The Federation of Furion Sects.
We Vowe One Thing, We WILL Be The Best (my bud spends to much time making up fake ships so at least he knows what he's talking about)


WIEGHT HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 67,000 TONS

In The Next Model The Federation of Furion Sects And EFC are going to roll out everything we have/

This is just the beggning

There will be no more models the Doujinishi Corporation is so much better than what we have now.
Our 2 nations that I have listed above WILL build a better Battleship