NationStates Jolt Archive


Execution of Thousands of Communists

The Macabees
19-06-2004, 18:15
The camp was fairly large - about the size of Chula Vista city in Southern California. However, it was extremely crowded. Recent Macabee government programs begun by the Emperor had ordered the immediate movement of all registered Communist Party members to concentration camps. About 36 million citizens, who had originally been promised political freedom, had been shoved into these camps. This one wasn't the only concentration camp, but it had a major difference. This was also a death camp - it was a huge experiment really. Mass genocide had never been part of the Empire's internal policies, in fact the Empire had been parts of major wars against very nations who had committed a genocide of their own. However, this new emperor was unlike his predecessors. He hated communists, with a burning passion, and he loved power.

Consequently, these 36 million civilians found themselves in concentration camps... 800,000 of them in a death camp. They were squeezed in large barrack buildings, with double bunks, two to a single bunk. Spread of disease was kept under control by daily check, which would take hours, but worth it. However, the disease checking soon ended weeks later, after the opening of the camps. There was no point in checking the dead...

So, that's how it happened. And now, 800,000 communists had their ashes spread under ground after they were incenerated in extraordinary boilers. It was quite disgusting really; but the people the emperor chose to lead these camps were real sickos - mind problems... most of them insane.

How would the government explain 36 million people in concentration camps to the rest of the world? Who cared... however, the deaths were kept extremely classified and official reports stated that the people in that camp had been sent to other camps - there had been fake truck convoys and everything to provide some sort of "evidence". What would the world say?
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 18:33
OOC: Where are all the commie nations out there?

IC:

The government has officially closed down the Communist Pary, as well as the Green Party, Socialist Party, and Democratic Party.
Holy panooly
19-06-2004, 18:38
Good job there Macabees. That's the way it should be.
Technocracia
19-06-2004, 18:42
Technocracia condemns this gross display of political repression and asks that any surviving communists be allowed to move to Technocracia.

Your execution has simply shown that you are just as willing to kill millions as Stalin and Pol Pot, and are just as guilty as the people you are trying to kill.

Technocracia warns against future actions, and calls for moderate left wing parties to be allowed back to your government.
Technocracia
19-06-2004, 18:43
Andrehervia
19-06-2004, 18:59
Whilst the Andrehervian government announced their disgust at these killings, the Fascist People's Alliance celebrated, with their leader Maxwell Roberts saying At last! More and more nations are taking actions against the commies, seeing them as the scum they are. Brothers, I urge you and others around the world to overthrow your lefty rulers and bring glorious victory to your homeland! Fight for dignity! Fight for peace! Fight for honour!"

Maxwell Roberts is swept inside the cheering group of people and the celebrations carry on long into the night.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 19:33
Ruissia
19-06-2004, 19:55
We condemn these actions, and will be taking military actions to help the commies if needed.


OOC: Whats with everyone hating us these days?
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 19:59
Official Government Report:

These Communist scum will not be released. You can send your miltiary if you wish, but we will only defeat your forces and conquer your homeland.
Bonstock
19-06-2004, 20:00
In the Bonstocknian colony of Maropian Coast, fifty men were brought out behind a wall. AK-47 rounds went off, and they met their end.
Soviet Haaregrad
19-06-2004, 20:04
Haaregradia condemns these killings and orders a full economic embargo, including parts for all ships previously purchased by your government.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1678805#1678805
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:07
Haaregradia condemns these killings and orders a full economic embargo, including parts for all ships previously purchased by your government.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1678805#1678805

To: Soviet Haaregrad

Unfortunately for you the Macabee Kriegsmarine no longer uses the ships you sold it, and most of the ships purchased were scrapped for the construction of state of the art Macabee ships.
Ruissia
19-06-2004, 20:07
After reports of unagreements with The Macabees officials, Ruissian Government announces that it they are not afraid of The Macabees, and will fight to the bitter end to protect Karl Marxs' ideologies
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:07
After reports of unagreements with The Macabees officials, Ruissian Government announces that it they are not afraid of The Macabees, and will fight to the bitter end to protect Karl Marxs' ideologies

The Macabees can only suggest you come and try.
Tyrandis
19-06-2004, 20:10
The Republic condemns these actions in the strongest terms possible.

While we have no love for the communists, the systematic, brutal execution of innocents is unforgiveable.

We fought a war to stop the barbarians of Greece and Cyprus. We crushed them in a matter of days.

However, Tyrandis has decided to refrain from bloodshed. Therefore, all trade and ties between our nations is henceforth closed.

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-tifa.jpg
Director Valerie Fenton
Director of Foreign Affairs
Triumviatorial Republic of Tyrandis
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:11
As you may well know Tyrandis we are no push overs..and we never had trade with your nation in any case.
Soviet Haaregrad
19-06-2004, 20:12
Haaregradia condemns these killings and orders a full economic embargo, including parts for all ships previously purchased by your government.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1678805#1678805

To: Soviet Haaregrad

Unfortunately for you the Macabee Kriegsmarine no longer uses the ships you sold it, and most of the ships purchased were scrapped for the construction of state of the art Macabee ships.

OOC: Well, we tryed. :P
Khooloon
19-06-2004, 20:13
The Khooloon Government strongly disagree about that mass killling action. We are going to start political contacts to propose an UN resolution against those bloody actions. Kill citizens for ideology is a great mistake.

Signed:
The Khooloon Government
Tavast-Carelia
19-06-2004, 20:16
Tavast-Carelia fully condemns thse barbaric actions against our socialist brothers and sisters. When our authoritarian rule was overthrown and replaced by our current system, we did nothing to harm those who supported a capitalist system. We find the course of action taken by the Macabees utterly barbaric and are very disappointed such thing can happen in the modern times.

Erkki Tuomioja
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Tavast-Carelia
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:17
OOC: Just for you guys to know..I don't normally brutally kill people..I just wanted to stir some people up and maybe get an RP going... I am anti Communist..but not to this degree.

Soviet H. may know..in fact we were allies in our invasion of Freemantia..we were the first to invade that little crap Nazi. :P
Communistpoland
19-06-2004, 20:17
ooc: we all busy in europe figiting for our cause Ruissia, or have you not noticed?
i'd call on some people to kick your nazi ass, but ah well to busy.

Also everyone is hating the commies as we are/were the dominat power of NS
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:20
ooc: we all busy in europe figiting for our cause Ruissia, or have you not noticed?
i'd call on some people to kick your nazi ass, but ah well to busy.

Also everyone is hating the commies as we are/were the dominat power of NS

OOC: Yes, a Nazi called the Macabees..makes perfect sense.. do you of my anti-Nazi history? I've fought dozens of brushfire wars to counter Nazis..most of my empire abroad is from those wars. I'm just right wing. But calling me Nazi is going too far.
Ruissia
19-06-2004, 20:22
Death Camps, Massacre....sounds like Nazism to me
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:25
Death Camps, Massacre....sounds like Nazism to me

OOC: Yea, only I'm not usually pervasive..just incredibly bored...and since the Commie community is the fastes growing active community on NS so far I decided to stir some trouble.
Ruissia
19-06-2004, 20:28
OOC: Yea its gotten really boring around here, everyone concentrating on Dr_Twist and/or Halladi war, no new wars around.

IC: The Government of Ruissia played back the war threats after maybe having to take an important duty in the Halladi war
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:32
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 20:34
Caras Galadon
19-06-2004, 20:50
His Provisionally Elected Highness James the Sorta-Elven speaking before the Imperial Senate of Caras Galadon harshly condemns these acts. He has called upon The Macabees to remember their commitments under several pieces of international law as passed by the United Nations and immediately desist these illegal and immoral actions. He has also urged all Galadisian citizens to immediately leave The Macabees. A full transcript of the Premier's speech may be found below.

The Galadisian government has placed a full trade embargo upon goods from The Macabees and all Galadisian citizens are prohibited from entering The Macabees. Any citizens of The Macabees that may be within the borders of Caras Galadon are being detained until The Macabees government works out a suitable plan for their release.



"Greetings and salutations to the Imperial Senate. I come before you to address the rogue nation of The Macabees. Their illegal actions must not be allowed to continue."

The Premier is interrupted by a general uproar of agreement. "War, end this!"

The premier held up his hand for silence. "Friends, let us first establish due cause for any further actions. The execution of these innocent civilians is of course illegal under international law as legislated by the United Nations. It is in direct violation of the Universal declaration of Human Rights articles 5 and 6 which explicitly state, 'All human beings must not be subjected to torture or to cruel or inhuman treatment or punishment. And, no human beings will be subjected to arrest or exile without an explicit list of their offenses.' Further, the government of The Macabees is in clear violation of the law of Due Process which states, ' no person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limbo, ... , nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; ... '
The above violation being made applicable due to the UN laws of Fair Trial and the further resolution Definition of a Fair Trial as passed by that body. The last piece of International law violated by these actions is of course the Universal Freedom of Choice article 5. "

As the Premier finished speaking to room collapsed into a loud pandemonium of angry shouts. Even the representatives from parties condemning socialism and communism are seen to be outraged by these actions.



We have had to cease transcription from this point in the name of national security. The Premier has extended an invitation to delegations from all nations condemning these acts to meet in a neutral location to discuss further actions.


OOC: Maybe I should recall my fleet and start preparing here...Lol... Actually I just got really bored too and they have the Mass Atheist burnings fully covered
Resistencia
19-06-2004, 20:58
Prime Minister Frank Aquila looked out at the assembled crowd. They had come to here him speak about the attrocities commited by the Macabees.

Comrades, I come to you tonight to address the matter of political oppression. It is a plague that is spreading throughout the world. Our fellow socialists throughout the world are feeling the tyranny of dictators and oppressors. It is time that we take action to help our comrades in need.

The nation of the Macabees has commited attrocities against members of their communist party. Because the communists' power was growing, the ruling class felt there was only one way to preserve their decadent lifestyle, wipe out their enemy. They acted at once. They killed without mercy or feeling. They murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people simply because they disagreed with their political ideas. Something must be done.

For now, we shall wait. The international community as a whole is planning on a course of action. Since we encourage peace amongst all nations, we will work with the others who have condemmed this action to reach a peaceful solution. However, if war is neccesary, we will act. Let us all hope however, that our military need not be used and the world may continue to live in peace.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 21:00
The information had finally arrived. The Empire of Caras Galadon had detained Macabee citezenry in their nation and had placed an embargo. The embargo was really a problem since no trade existed between the two nations - however, it could be used as a pretext. Emperor Jonathan I immediately told his Chief of Naval Staff to prepare Task Force Doom and Task Force Destruction for possible military action - as well as the 1st and 2nd White Banner Armies.

The wharfs were busy that day - sailors going to their ships with their packs, logistics personnel running back and forth loading the ships with what was needed. Huge cranes loaded the task forces with the large crates needed to go on with the war and the necessary missiles. Normally the fleet would leave from Freemantia, however, the fleet there had already been warned for possible military action elsewhere.

The Macabees were looking to flex their muscle...and here was the perfect chance.


Let go of our citizens or feel the wrath of the Macabee Empire.


In the Empire most airports had been alerted to stop Caras citizens and arrest them immediately on contact. Perhaps the Macabees should execute them also... no, that wouldn't be necessary..but to the Gulags maybe... maybe.
Neo-Soviet Russia
19-06-2004, 21:04
The United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia finds the actions of the Imperium macabees to be a laugh in the face of liberty and of humanity. We find the actions taken by the Emperor of Macabees to be likened to that of dictators of the past. The USSNSR, as other nations have, codemns the Imperium Macabees for the death of the communists.
Tavast-Carelia
19-06-2004, 21:15
Newsflash:

The SGD of Tavast-Carelia has bought the actions of The Macabees into the attention of the Coalition of Anti-Capitalist Economies. In his speech, T-C's ruler, Duke Daniel II, urged CACE members to condemn the Macabee's actions as well as consider taking military action against them. However, no official stance on any military action has yet been taken.
DontPissUsOff
19-06-2004, 21:19
We find the actions of The Macabees to be disgusting, but are not hugely surprised. We will make no move against The Macabees at this time.

[code:1:9159a8b7ed]From: Centre
To: Agnt. Horus
We hope you enjoyed the champagne.[/code:1:9159a8b7ed]

"Horus" was Nikolai Putrishkin. He was an expert intelligence offcier, trained by the Third Directorate of the NSB, and his job was to assess the situation in The Macabees, find out if there were any resistance groups and how they might be aided. Upon receipt of the message, he set about packing his case. Before he was finished, a single airline ticket to The Macabees had dropped through the letterbox. According to one of his several false identities, which he had made sure not to yet make use of, he was a businessman who was going to The Macabees for a rest after developing a suspected duodenal ulcer. He would be convalescing for three weeks. The medical staff had advised him to relax, so he would probably spend much of his tiem walking, swimming, idly listening to the radio. It was good enough, for now.

An hour and a half later, a Tupolev-134 left Rostograd Airport, bound for The Macabees. The flight would take five hours. Putrishkin tilted his had over his eyes and went to sleep.
Boris the Blade
19-06-2004, 21:19
FROM THE MINISTRY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS

The Holy Empire of Boris The Blade is appalled and disgusted by the offences committed by Mecabbe. This is an act of incredible injustice, which our small country condemns.

To any other nations which are also disappointed by this inexplicable act we will, if need be, provide logistical and military support to the reaches of our military.

In addition I will add that we are not yet at war but if any country does open this state we will join and support their actions

Signed by the Minister of defence
Dusan Savic

The Advisor of Military
Gen. Richard Green

Emperor
Borislav "Blade" Ristic
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 21:28
OOC: So it starts.

Also; DontPissUsoff..umm no... you never RPd a creation of an intelligence office in my nation..don't pull that cr@p on me now... RP it first..and let them die to my blade.
Caras Galadon
19-06-2004, 21:28
OOC: Caras Galadon isn't an empire :D We're a socilist commonwealth 8) Which of course means that my citizens are socialists in general :D

IC:



Your citizens will be returned to you as soon as you provide us with a location as to where to send them. We of course similarly insist that you return our citizens to us. We will be happy with you placing our citizens within the territory of any party neutral or friendly towards Caras Galadon. In return we will return yoru citizens to you at a place you find appropriate.




Caras Galadon has shifted its millitary alert status to level yellow. Galadisian forces and fleets are being called back to within its borders and are fully prepared to deal with any act of agression from The Macabees. HPEH James the Sorta-Elven remains firm in his demands that The Macabees desist in their illegal executions or face further actions on the part of the Galadisian government whether it be alone or acting as part of a multilateral coalition.



To you I bring greetings from the Galadisian Government. We join you in deploring these illegal and barbarous actions. For too long have we sat back and let these doing happen. We would like to know what you plan to do if a diplomatic solution becomes impossible?

~HPEH James the Sorta-Elven



OOC: Macabees, you've got telegrams
Rehochipe
19-06-2004, 21:29
But calling me Nazi is going too far.

With the Iron Cross on your flag, state-supported genocide of political opponents, and living in a region with 'Reich' in it's name, one would be forgiven in believing that the distinction was moot.
DontPissUsOff
19-06-2004, 21:31
Aye, sorry. Not sure what came over me there. I'm editing now; see if you prefer the result.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 21:31
OOC: I personally think I'm not going to launch any offensives...I've fought over 10 +2 billion nations at the same time... I'm not scared, and I think I rather keep to the defensive for the time being.

IC:

We will do an exchange. We will send some 10 Cruise Liners (of course Spanish paid) for our citizens - hence offering the best service possible. You, in turn, send us your cruise liners (with officials to count that all your citizens are on). This is all we can promise for now.
Caras Galadon
19-06-2004, 21:46
OOC: Aye

IC: A handful of decent Galadisian passenger liners are being sent to collect our citzenry. There are appropriate representatives from the Office of Immigration,Naturalization, ect ect... are on board to insure all Galadisian citizens are returned as well as provide The Macabees with records to aide in proving that we have returned all of your citizens.

We remain firm to the stance that you must release the communists. We encourage you to consider allowing them to be granted political asylum in other nations.


EDIT: OOC: I'll BRB, I gotta run get some food and restart this evil contraption of a machine...
DontPissUsOff
19-06-2004, 21:48
Posted. Again apologies for the first version. :oops:
Roach-Busters
19-06-2004, 21:50
Look, as much as I HATE communism (more than Joe McCarthy, Martin Dies, Syngman Rhee, Francisco Franco, Chiang Kai-shek, Nguyen Van Thieu, Robert Welch, Augusto Pinochet, Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, Ian Smith, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Fulgencio Batista, Dan Smoot, Cardinal Francis Spellman, Generals Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, and George Stratemeyer, and Saudi Arabia's King Faisal COMBINED), I don't think killing them is the answer. Outlawing the Communist Party and all parties sympathetic to communism is permissible, but violence will just make them intensify their efforts.
Tavast-Carelia
19-06-2004, 21:57
Coded transmission to Caras Galadon:

We await the reaction by CACE general assembly before fully comitting ourselves to offensive military action at this point. However, rest assured that if The Macabees to do not stop their barbaric actions and military intervention becomes nescessary, Tavast-Carelia will stand by your side and offer whatever help it can, both to your nation as well as all your allies.

Jan Emilsson
Minister of Defence
Tavast-Carelia
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 21:59
OOC: Yea I posted this before..but these forums are being weird..and didn't add it on...

You have a lot of hate in you young man... :P ..again I stress this isn't a normal routine for my nation..I was just bored...lol... and Commies are the only real people I could kill..I mean, I'm half Jewish, I'm Catholic, and I'm Fascist... (but not Nazi..huge difference)

IC:

Four Passenger Liners left from Targul Frumos, the largest port in the Imperial Provence of Freemantia. They were destined for prescribed ports abroad to take on Macabee citizens. All other liner dates for the next week were cancelled, creating a rupture among the liner customers, but it had to be done.
Tavast-Carelia
19-06-2004, 22:04
Tavast-Carelia
19-06-2004, 22:06
You have a lot of hate in you young man... :P ..again I stress this isn't a normal routine for my nation..I was just bored...lol... and Commies are the only real people I could kill..
OOC: I find it a bit worrying you would be willing to kill anyone in real life. But enough OOC for now.
Roach-Busters
19-06-2004, 22:16
Look, hating communism is okay, but hating the communists themselves is something entirely different. We will not interfere, but we must respectfully ask that you cease this mindless genocide.
The Imperial Knights
19-06-2004, 22:17
:lol:
The Imperial Knights
19-06-2004, 22:17
ssdf
Neo-Soviet Russia
19-06-2004, 22:37
[code:1:bd6d0a226a]Transmission to Caras Galadon

If a diplomatic solution can not be found the United Socialist States of Neo Soviet Russia would be willing to take part in a coalition of nations against the Imperium Macabees. We would be willing to supply troops and equipment, fuel and materials towards a war effort.
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Caras Galadon
19-06-2004, 22:43
Lenins Russia
19-06-2004, 22:57
Lenins Russia will not stand for this evil. All nations that continue to kill communists will be punished.
Caras Galadon
19-06-2004, 22:57
We wish it to be known we are highly pleased with The Macabees rational attitude regarding foreign nationals. However, we ask as a further sign of good faith, rationality, and respect of international law, that The Macabees cease their killings of communists and to actively seek a diplomatic agreement with both oruselves and the other nations objecting to this practice.

Let us come together to prevent rash actions and peacefully end this crisis.



We thanks you for your support. It is our continued wish that it will be possible to find a diplomatic solution to this crisis and as that you join in reasonable diplomacy to that end to avoid the scourge of war. However, we do thank you again for your support and we will call upon it if diplomacy should fail.



OOC: Let's go diplomacy!!!! I like my list of wars blank...
Yugolsavia
19-06-2004, 23:41
Let us talk about peace maybe we could have it go this way communism will be banned from the nation but they will leave and all expenses will be payed. Resonable?
Magdha
19-06-2004, 23:49
[code:1:122be3db06] To the Maccabees from the Maharajah-

Bharat stands ready to help you against communist pigs. If you are attacked the Anti-communist/capitalist alliance will assit you. Good luck.[/code:1:122be3db06]
Neo-Soviet Russia
19-06-2004, 23:59
Yugolsavia, though a decent deal I must ask this: What about those who have already been exterminated? I believe something must be done in relation to them as well.
Demonic Terrorists
20-06-2004, 00:00
STOP KILLING COMMUNISTS!!!! COMMUNISTS ARE SICK, EVIL, PERVERTED, DEMONIC FIENDS...which is why we love 'em. :wink:
Communist Louisiana
20-06-2004, 00:01
If communist are so bad, then why is it only the facist and capitalist that are killing people in different political parties when most communist do not mind other political parties in their nation?
Demonic Terrorists
20-06-2004, 00:02
In REAL LIFE, communists KILL all political opposition...which is fine with us! :lol:
Demonic Terrorists
20-06-2004, 00:03
Same thing goes for fascists...why is we love 'em, too! :D :lol: :wink:
Communist Louisiana
20-06-2004, 00:06
No in Real Life, their are no communist governments. B/c they have not followed Marx's ideals. That makes them dictatorsips not communist.
Demonic Terrorists
20-06-2004, 00:09
Communists ARE dictatorships, you butt crack! Marx even said "dictatorship of the proletariat." And all communists follow Marx's vision. Yeah, they add their own ideas and stuff, but they're still Marxists! Marxism is E-V-I-L...which is a GRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT thing, sweetie! :D
Comrade General
20-06-2004, 01:39
The militaristic nation of Comrade General will not tolerate the brutul massacre of ANY people. If they were democratic, monarchy, or some tribe in Africa that is ruled by the chief, we, the nation of Comrade General will not tolerate it.

The introduction of Land of the Red Army and our allies into the war and coalition against the Macabees is pending, but if it comes to war, and all votes are yes, the full force of 11 regions will be at the war's disposal. These 11 regions are under the RKKA alliance. (Peasants' and Workers' Red Army)

OOC- Couldn't you of come up with something better than a massacre? But oh well, it's still fun. :wink:
Fuhrer landw
20-06-2004, 01:56
36 million more! :twisted:
DontPissUsOff
20-06-2004, 02:09
Furher Landw: Want to mess with a Communist? mess with me, laddie.
The Macabees
20-06-2004, 02:15
The Emperor has ordered a stop to the experimental killing and instead has begun the introduction on a re-education program. Each registered Communist will be registered into a educational program and allowed to live in the cities of the Empire. However, if they fail to show up at their re-educational plants they will be thrown in prison for life.
DontPissUsOff
20-06-2004, 02:20
While this is still, in our view, unsatisfactory, it is at least better than mass killings. We'll take in anyone wishing to leave The Macabees.
The Huac
20-06-2004, 03:22
The Huac supports the actions taken by the Macabees. We will send aid if necessary.
Proletariat Comrades
20-06-2004, 03:26
:TAG:

I am a member of the RKKA. Macabees, I suggest you watch yourself; there are far more communist nations than capitalist ones here.
The Macabees
20-06-2004, 05:59
:TAG:

I am a member of the RKKA. Macabees, I suggest you watch yourself; there are far more communist nations than capitalist ones here.

OOC: Most of you are piece of crap mid 2004 n00bs also... I lack a fear of you guys...
Tavast-Carelia
20-06-2004, 10:05
Communists ARE dictatorships, you butt crack! Marx even said "dictatorship of the proletariat." And all communists follow Marx's vision.
No and yes. Marx did say 'dictatorship of the proletariat', but it was to be followed by democracy by the proletariat, once the people had setteled into living in a communist economy.

And there are many forms of 'communism', although nearly all have roots in marxism they can still be quite different from marxism in the form Marx himself laid it out.

Returning to IC:

We are glad that The Macabees have decided to leave the path of violence, but are deeply concerned about these re-education plans. In our view, the constitute a breach of human rights, more precisely freedom of choice. Also the fact that Macabee officials have already mercilessly murdered 800 000 communists without any provocation except their political views leads us to take a sceptical stance when it comes to the safety of the remaining communist citizens. We would urge the Macabees to allow foreign officials in your country to see that human rights are respected in these re-education facilities.

Also, even though we do not believe in revenge as such, it will set a bad example to the world if The Macabees are allowed to massacre hundreds of thousands of people without any repercussions.
Kanabia
20-06-2004, 10:16
As a socialist/communist nation, we will join our voices with those opposing the policies of Macabees.
Resistencia
20-06-2004, 15:37
Another thing to keep in mind when talking about marxism is the time and place when it was written. Many of Marx's ideas for government structure are out dated. His ideas about people living together are still valid, but I guarantee that if Marx was alive today, his writings would be very different. Also, all communists are not the same. In NationStates, it seems that all leftist nations are lumped into one big category. However, the truth is that there are many different types of leftists. Contrary to popular belief, communists and socialists are diferent, however, they are often put together. Socialism is also not a dictatorship, but can also be a democracy, like the scandinavaian countires.
USSNA
20-06-2004, 18:09
:TAG:

I am a member of the RKKA. Macabees, I suggest you watch yourself; there are far more communist nations than capitalist ones here.

OOC: Most of you are piece of crap mid 2004 n00bs also... I lack a fear of you guys...


OOC: if you were wise, you would take heed to our warnings. You would be surprised what us, "noobs" can do.


IC: The United Soviet States of the New Age will not tolerate these kinds of actions. Killing hundreds of thousands of people through death camps in any right, is unjustified and unmoral. Now you come to us with these "Re-education" programs. I think anyone here can see why we are skeptical. We too would also like to send in personel to moniter the treatment of these people.
Comrade General
20-06-2004, 20:01
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I am a member of the RKKA. Macabees, I suggest you watch yourself; there are far more communist nations than capitalist ones here.

OOC: Most of you are piece of crap mid 2004 n00bs also... I lack a fear of you guys...

OOC: Are you dumb? Why argue something that has the odds on its side? Not only does the RKKA have ten regions a part of it, but each region numbers from 30 150ish if not more! And aside from the RKKA, no one likes what you did to those people communist or not. You don't have many people on your side Macabees...

IC: Each member of the RKKA asks to send in a team of civil rights group. The leader of The Proletariat Union of Comrade General would also make a visit to your land to make sure the familys of the massacred are well compesated.
Hogsweat
20-06-2004, 20:34
OOC// Good idea, especially with the new forum. Maybe, I could RP a splinter cell communist Faction within your nation, acting terrorist parts funded by Hogsweat. Hows a bout it?