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And in other news, there was a riot today in the Ryananian city of Redding in response to a small gay pride parade. Apparently, the small gay population of the city, which was previously unknown, organized a parade to show their pride in being queer. There were less than one hundred gays in the parade, but hundreds of enraged citizens turned out to attack the paraders. City police attempted to hold the mob back, but they were vastly outnumbered, and the mob attacked the parade. Before police reinforcements arrived, the parade had been dispersed, and thirty-seven gays were dead, and an unknown number injured, as the surviviors of the parade fled the scene. No arrests have been made. So far, there is no official comment. Now, for Gary Gunther with sports.

Thank you, Tom. Oh man, it was a battle of the titans today with the Wolves and the Hornets facing off on the gridiron! BAM! Check out that hit! That's a grass filet, right there!...

When High Elder Ryan XIV heard of this, he said, "A gay pride parade? Wow, they weren't very smart, were they?"

And in other news, there was a riot today in the Ryananian city of Redding in response to a small gay pride parade. Apparently, the small gay population of the city, which was previously unknown, organized a parade to show their pride in being queer. There were less than one hundred gays in the parade, but hundreds of enraged citizens turned out to attack the paraders. City police attempted to hold the mob back, but they were vastly outnumbered, and the mob attacked the parade. Before police reinforcements arrived, the parade had been dispersed, and thirty-seven gays were dead, and an unknown number injured, as the surviviors of the parade fled the scene. No arrests have been made. So far, there is no official comment. Now, for Gary Gunther with sports.

"Thank you, Tom. Oh man, it was a battle of the titans today with the Wolves and the Hornets facing off on the gridiron! BAM! Check out that hit! That's a grass filet, right there!...

The Empire totally respects the great people of Ryanania for showing the gays whose boss.

Although Muktar has no substantial homosexual population, we find it sickening that 37 people were bludgeoned to death by civilians. We hope appropriate legal action is being taken.

That is very sad, people were just expressing their pride and those hetero bigots just started murdering innocent gays.

And in other news, there was a riot today in the Ryananian city of Redding in response to a small gay pride parade. Apparently, the small gay population of the city, which was previously unknown, organized a parade to show their pride in being queer. There were less than one hundred gays in the parade, but hundreds of enraged citizens turned out to attack the paraders. City police attempted to hold the mob back, but they were vastly outnumbered, and the mob attacked the parade. Before police reinforcements arrived, the parade had been dispersed, and thirty-seven gays were dead, and an unknown number injured, as the surviviors of the parade fled the scene. No arrests have been made. So far, there is no official comment. Now, for Gary Gunther with sports.

Thank you, Tom. Oh man, it was a battle of the titans today with the Wolves and the Hornets facing off on the gridiron! BAM! Check out that hit! That's a grass filet, right there!...


Lord General Dresk of the Steel Legions.

Ha its about time someone took a stand against these heretics, they are always whining about being oppressed and not getting special rights. Let me have them for a while and they will be begging to only get beat up at a parade.

Exactly my thinking!

Well I think that's the last time gays will make public appearances in Ryanania for a while.

Official Statement from the Goverment of Red Tide:
Gayism is immorral and sick... I am glad those citizens took it into their own hands too wipe out a few more gayists.

Gayists. That's the first time I've heard that one.

Are your nations racist as well?

Does a sexual preferace matter that much, if they never interact with you?

The fact that people were killed over a parade is wrong enough, but to have one group singled out for one difference they may have with the rest of society, that is pure insanity.

Do any of your nations have muti-race communities? Are there Blacks and Whites and other ethnicities and colors living in your nations? Are they treated the same way?

This act of pure ignorance and fear is on par with that of religious intolerance, racism, and ethnic cleansing.

And yes, I do mean ignorance and fear. That is the cause for all the strife between different people after all. Fear of what is different. If you don't understand it, then you don't want it.

If this is the attitude of your societies, then you are only heading down a backwards path of destruction and hate.

The Empire of Meiyo condemns this attack on the basis of freedom, and hopes that many of you will come to your senses and see the madness shown by this atrocity.

Galdania is sickened and appalled by the actions of these people, who murdered innocent people. Galdania has millions of homosexuals within it's 26 states, and will welcome refugees from any nation being persecuted for their sexual orientation.

Ryanania doesn't stop people from leaving, and the prevailing anti gay attitude is not new. Those people chose to stay in Ryanania, then they publicly decalred themselves.

Is there anything wrong with declaring one's self?

Regardless of public opinion, can people not live as they choose to?

I believe your nation must seriously re-evaluate the situation, and provide a better system of protecting these people and their rights. Also, the government needs to take a stand, by not responding to the attacks, they condone the actions, therefore causing more incidents like this in the future.

I cannot believe the responses you people are posting to this horrible article. Just because you do not agree with their sexual preferance does not mean that they deserve to die! Every person deserves the right to live.

Lemonnosvile is open to any group as long as they do not hurt others. We are especially open to gays and arrest anyone who commits anything close to such a horrendous crime.

Oppression should not exist.

Galdania is sickened and appalled by the actions of these people, who murdered innocent people. Galdania has millions of homosexuals within it's 26 states, and will welcome refugees from any nation being persecuted for their sexual orientation.
funny because i assume that these people have children/grandchildren at a impressionable age who se people probably chanting we love are own sex having sex man to man is fine (in translation to conservative mind) we are sick and wrong sick and wrong and we love to shake you up and provoke you.

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Well I think that's the last time gays will make public appearances in Ryanania for a while.

[OOC: You ALL make me sick!]

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.

I cannot believe the responses you people are posting to this horrible article. Just because you do not agree with their sexual preferance does not mean that they deserve to die! Every person deserves the right to live.

Lemonnosvile is open to any group as long as they do not hurt others. We are especially open to gays and arrest anyone who commits anything close to such a horrendous crime.

Oppression should not exist.
ok but according to you hitler and stalin deserved to live. never say every on the forum for future refrence it doe's alot of good.

Yeah, you say that I should "respond" to these attacks... what am I supposed to do? Invade myself?

funny because i assume that these people have children/grandchildren at a impressionable age who se people probably chanting we love are own sex having sex man to man is fine (in translation to conservative mind) we are sick and wrong sick and wrong and we love to shake you up and provoke you.

Because of this uneducated response I will presume that you have no idea of how sexual orientation is created.

Yes images, behaviors, and experiances by anyone can affect their sexuality, it is in such a trivial degree that it is deemed insignifigant. Scientists believe that sexual orientation is created and held on to by age 6. Therefore, any child above that age is in no danger of being affected by such an innocent display of dignity, and those younger would be too young to understand the idea of it all.

Bad argument.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

Yeah, you say that I should "respond" to these attacks... what am I supposed to do? Invade myself?

Respond, yes. IN SOME KIND OF LEGISLATURE!

Give a generous amount of protection for events of this manner.
Publicly castigate the actions of the mob.
Set up a Gay Rights group.
Create programs on education about homosexuality.
TEACH people not to be afraid of what they don't understand.

DO SOMETHING!!! Don't simply sit back and allow your nation to be torn apart like this.

Haaregradia condemns the murders of these innocent people and welcomes any gays fleeing persecution to consider our nation as safe haven.

funny because i assume that these people have children/grandchildren at a impressionable age who se people probably chanting we love are own sex having sex man to man is fine (in translation to conservative mind) we are sick and wrong sick and wrong and we love to shake you up and provoke you.

Because of this uneducated response I will presume that you have no idea of how sexual orientation is created.

Yes images, behaviors, and experiances by anyone can affect their sexuality, it is in such a trivial degree that it is deemed insignifigant. Scientists believe that sexual orientation is created and held on to by age 6. Therefore, any child above that age is in no danger of being affected by such an innocent display of dignity, and those younger would be too young to understand the idea of it all.

Bad argument.
sure they do and did it accrue to you their will be people that age and people who are naturally questioning at semi-young ages who this argument still holds true for, by the way never say stuff some sceintist have proven becasue unless the majority of them think it is right then there is no point in posting it and since i assure you that most don't it is a bad idea to have posted what you did. (keep to raw facts things proven tested and proven a thousand times is a raw fact, other wise it is worthless get over it i am sure i could find counter research but i donnt want to waste my time.)

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

Um...not ----in' likely.

Your statements show your ignorance. When have you ever heard of gays going and beating a group of innocent heterosexuals?

And about the 'impressionable children' remark, what about their parents? If they kiss in front of their children or something, maybe that will affect their sexuality.

I still have no credible evidence presented to prove that there is anything wrong with homesexuality.

Oh, and 'Dark Fututure', learn to spell. English is my THIRD language, yet I can read, write, and spell better than you. Now, unless it's your fourth, learn to spell. 8)

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

Chanting is one thing. Causing violence is another.

Consider yourself ignored both IC and OOC.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

Um...not ----in' likely.

Your statements show your ignorance. When have you ever heard of gays going and beating a group of innocent heterosexuals?

And about the 'impressionable children' remark, what about their parents? If they kiss in front of their children or something, maybe that will affect their sexuality.

I still have no credible evidence presented to prove that there is anything wrong with homesexuality.
nope because heterosexuals don't have sexual parades because we have children and they do not. only that it is more likely to spread aids for something wrong with aids OOC: and it is against the rules of the religion that started america and made it a great nation christianity and most rules in the Contusion. duh parents kiss in front of their children it is a sign of affection and it marks a obvious point parents are or were supposed move their children toward hetro sexuaility good day.

...it is a bad idea to have posted what you did. (keep to raw facts things proven tested and proven a thousand times is a raw fact, other wise it is worthless get over it i am sure i could find counter research but i donnt want to waste my time.)

This I find disgusting. If I were to perform any experiment and prove how it works, a thousand times over, does that make it fact? Absolutely not. Fact is RARELY used in science now, because there is not guaranteed fact anymore. Everything is a LAW or THEORY so it is known that things can be changed. Down the road, someone can prove it wrong.

I believe my post was perfectly in-line, and by judging from your hasty response, I would say you are attemptimg to escape the subject in question entirely.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

...speaking as a homosexual...hell no. you're a complete idiot if you think that would happen - those people fear what they don't understand, and just take some animalistic pleasure from asserting their dominence, gay people understand hatred extremely well, and as such would have no primative and disgusting desire to kill.

sure they do and did it accrue to you their will be people that age and people who are naturally questioning at semi-young ages who this argument still holds true for, by the way never say stuff some sceintist have proven becasue unless the majority of them think it is right then there is no point in posting it and since i assure you that most don't it is a bad idea to have posted what you did. (keep to raw facts things proven tested and proven a thousand times is a raw fact, other wise it is worthless get over it i am sure i could find counter research but i donnt want to waste my time.)

....and the straight community doesn't do that at ALL. All my life I've been bombarded with rather disgusting images of heterosexual courtship - had expectations and the like shoved down my throat, and when an isolated minority asserts that it's ok and they're equal people get upset because they might somehow affect young children? Bisexuality is the norm in places like the pacific islands (or used to be before european/christian influence), boys would pair up often, it was somewhat expected, and not leave eachother until they got married, occasionally prefering to stay with their male lover. This is a completely natural part of the human psyche and it's utter supremist rot to suggest that if "it might sway the children" it can't be done, not that it WILL sway the children in the first place.

The Republic of Kihenna:

Would like to compliment every nation here that has expressed their negative opinions of the death of these fellow human beings, on being a bunch of sanctimonious assholes.

Why don't you look alittle at reality and see that no one is different from you, other than sexual preference. A nation who condemns another for its sexual outlook is nothing more than a frightened bunch of homophobics who think homosexuality is like some disease to them.

Personally, you can express your opinion, but when you treat another human being like dirt the way many of you have. We'd rather be given to the dogs then have any relation to your spineless rulers.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

...speaking as a homosexual...hell no. you're a complete idiot if you think that would happen - those people fear what they don't understand, and just take some animalistic pleasure from asserting their dominence, gay people understand hatred extremely well, and as such would have no primative and disgusting desire to kill.
...speaking as a hetro sexual..Neither would we, you would have to be a complete idoit to think that would happen. (in you're own words i correct you.)

call in the fag bashers lol and more of them

call in the fag bashers lol and more of them

This is the kind of attitude that corrupts our societies and creates huge problems for everyone......

I cannot believe the responses you people are posting to this horrible article. Just because you do not agree with their sexual preferance does not mean that they deserve to die! Every person deserves the right to live.

Lemonnosvile is open to any group as long as they do not hurt others. We are especially open to gays and arrest anyone who commits anything close to such a horrendous crime.

Oppression should not exist.
ok but according to you hitler and stalin deserved to live. never say every on the forum for future refrence it doe's alot of good.

hitler and stalin both had the right to live, they didn't have the right to do what they did, but nevertheless, they had the right to live.

funny because i assume that these people have children/grandchildren at a impressionable age who se people probably chanting we love are own sex having sex man to man is fine (in translation to conservative mind) we are sick and wrong sick and wrong and we love to shake you up and provoke you.

Because of this uneducated response I will presume that you have no idea of how sexual orientation is created.

Yes images, behaviors, and experiances by anyone can affect their sexuality, it is in such a trivial degree that it is deemed insignifigant. Scientists believe that sexual orientation is created and held on to by age 6. Therefore, any child above that age is in no danger of being affected by such an innocent display of dignity, and those younger would be too young to understand the idea of it all.

Bad argument.
sure they do and did it accrue to you their will be people that age and people who are naturally questioning at semi-young ages who this argument still holds true for, by the way never say stuff some sceintist have proven becasue unless the majority of them think it is right then there is no point in posting it and since i assure you that most don't it is a bad idea to have posted what you did. (keep to raw facts things proven tested and proven a thousand times is a raw fact, other wise it is worthless get over it i am sure i could find counter research but i donnt want to waste my time.)

Has it occured to you that ignorance can be found everywheres, and that in the scientific community, homophobic ly too, giving biased results and/or opinions. For something to be fact does not mean it has to be accepted by everyone. Some concepts can not be accepted by certain types of people. what Meiyo has been speaking of has actually been mentioned by different scientists in different countries around the world.

Sarzonia condemns the rioters in Ryanania for their horrific conduct and we call upon the government to punish the perpetrators appropriately.
if some guys were walking down the street chanting gays should be jailed they should be handled we have the right to control you're sexuaility if this had been the case the gays probaly would have killed them.

Um...not ----in' likely.

Your statements show your ignorance. When have you ever heard of gays going and beating a group of innocent heterosexuals?

And about the 'impressionable children' remark, what about their parents? If they kiss in front of their children or something, maybe that will affect their sexuality.

I still have no credible evidence presented to prove that there is anything wrong with homesexuality.
nope because heterosexuals don't have sexual parades because we have children and they do not. only that it is more likely to spread aids for something wrong with aids OOC: and it is against the rules of the religion that started america and made it a great nation christianity and most rules in the Contusion. duh parents kiss in front of their children it is a sign of affection and it marks a obvious point parents are or were supposed move their children toward hetro sexuaility good day.

In fact, most new cases of AIDS being reported are among heterosexuals.

Religion and the 'Constitution' of a nation do not make something 'wrong'. There is no right or wrong about it. It is a choice. Or perhaps it is genetic. Does it matter? The Bible of Christianity states as a Cardinal Rule that it is wrong to kill. Of the Ten Commandments of Christianity (I'm not Christian so correct me if I''m wrong), ''Thou shalt not be homosexual'' does not exist. "Thou shalt not kill", however, is right up there.

I know a homosexual couple who live in my neighborhood, when I saw them together, getting married, it was truly a beautiful stight. To see two people who love each other so much together at last...it brought more than one tear to my eye.

By the way, I would like to repeat: DARK FUTUTURE, LEARN TO SPELL (correctly)!

sure they do and did it accrue to you their will be people that age and people who are naturally questioning at semi-young ages who this argument still holds true for, by the way never say stuff some sceintist have proven becasue unless the majority of them think it is right then there is no point in posting it and since i assure you that most don't it is a bad idea to have posted what you did. (keep to raw facts things proven tested and proven a thousand times is a raw fact, other wise it is worthless get over it i am sure i could find counter research but i donnt want to waste my time.)

....and the straight community doesn't do that at ALL. All my life I've been bombarded with rather disgusting images of heterosexual courtship - had expectations and the like shoved down my throat, and when an isolated minority asserts that it's ok and they're equal people get upset because they might somehow affect young children? Bisexuality is the norm in places like the pacific islands (or used to be before european/christian influence), boys would pair up often, it was somewhat expected, and not leave eachother until they got married, occasionally prefering to stay with their male lover. This is a completely natural part of the human psyche and it's utter supremist rot to suggest that if "it might sway the children" it can't be done, not that it WILL sway the children in the first place.
hey look at me i don't reproduce natural isn't it in you're words you say it is built in with the whole thing, its not the human psyche is capable of every thing nit every thing is based on gentics and rasieing and every thing else becasue the human psyche every thing is natural all things are natural i am voilent it is natural i am a lonney man it normal ma right.

The People's Moot of Andolai has declared that the Right of Sanctuary is to be offered to all gay Ryananian citizens within its borders, as well as those who are able to cross said borders in the future. We welcome you with open arms.

Has it occured to you that ignorance can be found everywheres, and that in the scientific community, homophobic ly too, giving biased results and/or opinions. For something to be fact does not mean it has to be accepted by everyone. Some concepts can not be accepted by certain types of people. what Meiyo has been speaking of has actually been mentioned by different scientists in different countries around the world.

Thank you for the support Calculta. It is this ignorance that breads the hatred of so many different kinds of issues, way beyond homosexuality.

The Jews were different, so they were persecuted.
The Blacks were different, so they were segregated.
The homosexuals are different, so they are condemned.

What is so wrong with accepting what is not like yourself???

Dark Fututure, even though you are a bigotted individual, I might be able to sympathise with you in certain areas, if I COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

Seriously, is English your first language? I find that people who learn English as a second (or third) language speak it much better than those who learn it as their native tongue.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.

giving biased results and/or opinions.
welcome to humanity and the baised bigot every one including you are.

giving biased results and/or opinions.
welcome to humanity and the baised bigot every one including you are.

Answer my question: Is English your first language!?

I believe most poeple are forgetting that sexual preferance always leads back to love. Gender should not matter for love, the body is the carrier of the soul, and when two souls match, does it matter what the carrier looks like? I think not. The ignorance in the world sickens me.

A question for all you Homosexual oppressors, do you consider a lesbian the same as a gay? do you get the same "sick" feeling in your stomach when you see a girl kissing a girl as you do when you see a guy kissing a guy?

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

I believe most poeple are forgetting that sexual preferance always leads back to love. Gender should not matter for love, the body is the carrier of the soul, and when two souls match, does it matter what the carrier looks like? I think not. The ignorance in the world sickens me.

A question for all you Homosexual oppressors, do you consider a lesbian the same as a gay? do you get the same "sick" feeling in your stomach when you see a girl kissing a girl as you do when you see a guy kissing a guy?

Most of these Dark Fututure types love to look at lesbian pornography. Talk about hypocrites. :roll:

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.

In fact in some ancient cultures homosexuals were revered. Many of the highest orders of priests were composed of homosexuals (mind you, this is very early Earth-based religion for the most part). It was seen that, through procreation, heterosexual couples helped to maintain the physical world. Those that had no desire to engage in such physical mantainance were seen as maintaing the spirtual, metaphysical realm. Not only do homosexuals have a past, but it's a glorious past indeed.

As such, The Holy Empire of Pallia condemns the actions of the extremists in their attacks on innocent people. We sypathize with the government of Ryanania as to the difficulties in preventing further such problems, and we pledge our support to the people of Ryanania and the government of Ryanania in any way that they see fit.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

How do YOU know he WASN'T gay? Did you hit on him and get rejected?

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Alexander The Great was in fact gay, it has been proven. He had many male lovers, and he shaped the world in a very powerful way. Alexander the Great was one of the greatest leaders of all times, and in fact was gay. No if ands or buts about it.

richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Just leave........stop embarrassing yourself with this feeble attempt at holding onto some thread of reason. You have lost it long ago.

nope because heterosexuals don't have sexual parades because we have children and they do not. only that it is more likely to spread aids for something wrong with aids OOC: and it is against the rules of the religion that started america and made it a great nation christianity and most rules in the Contusion. duh parents kiss in front of their children it is a sign of affection and it marks a obvious point parents are or were supposed move their children toward hetro sexuaility good day.

christianity made america "great"??? are you out of your mind? thomas jefferson and benjamin franklin practiced witchcraft - others among the founding fathers were deists, all of them were humanists, and the nation was founded in a war provoked by taxation!! "give unto caesar what is caesar's" and "turn the other cheek" are christian principles...america is about as christian as ancient babylon was. AIDS is only more common in the gay community in the west, and that's because the american government blocked the national health organisation from curing it because the president at the time it was discovered was a murderous bigot. I might add that christian saints have been gay - saints and popes. Gnostic christianity had a homosexual elite, and there are rumors about christ himself and saint john. don't be a blithering idiot, idiot. I like your ethics, by the way!! if something doesn't cause children it is obviously wrong! MORON go. overpopulate a different planet.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

After deciphering the code you speak in, I can see you have no proof.

Because you don't like homosexuality doesn't make it wrong. Because I'm allergic to peanuts does not make them wrong.

I believe most poeple are forgetting that sexual preferance always leads back to love. Gender should not matter for love, the body is the carrier of the soul, and when two souls match, does it matter what the carrier looks like? I think not. The ignorance in the world sickens me.

A question for all you Homosexual oppressors, do you consider a lesbian the same as a gay? do you get the same "sick" feeling in your stomach when you see a girl kissing a girl as you do when you see a guy kissing a guy?

Most of these Dark Fututure types love to look at lesbian pornography. Talk about hypocrites. :roll:
and ah stero-typing i almost forgot porn yeah i love porn NOT yes yes i do get the same sick feeling. i am religouse my heart is filled with love for the world but sins it hates sins it loaths sins it feels like destroying.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Alexander The Great was in fact gay, it has been proven. He had many male lovers, and he shaped the world in a very powerful way. Alexander the Great was one of the greatest leaders of all times, and in fact was gay. No if ands or buts about it.

Really??? I heard he was BI-sexual.

I believe most poeple are forgetting that sexual preferance always leads back to love. Gender should not matter for love, the body is the carrier of the soul, and when two souls match, does it matter what the carrier looks like? I think not. The ignorance in the world sickens me.

A question for all you Homosexual oppressors, do you consider a lesbian the same as a gay? do you get the same "sick" feeling in your stomach when you see a girl kissing a girl as you do when you see a guy kissing a guy?

Most of these Dark Fututure types love to look at lesbian pornography. Talk about hypocrites. :roll:
and ah stero-typing i almost forgot porn yeah i love porn NOT yes yes i do get the same sick feeling. i am religouse my heart is filled with love for the world but sins it hates sins it loaths sins it feels like destroying.

You are sinning against the English language ever time you post. :roll:

I believe most poeple are forgetting that sexual preferance always leads back to love. Gender should not matter for love, the body is the carrier of the soul, and when two souls match, does it matter what the carrier looks like? I think not. The ignorance in the world sickens me.

A question for all you Homosexual oppressors, do you consider a lesbian the same as a gay? do you get the same "sick" feeling in your stomach when you see a girl kissing a girl as you do when you see a guy kissing a guy?

Most of these Dark Fututure types love to look at lesbian pornography. Talk about hypocrites. :roll:
and ah stero-typing i almost forgot porn yeah i love porn NOT yes yes i do get the same sick feeling. i am religouse my heart is filled with love for the world but sins it hates sins it loaths sins it feels like destroying.

what makes your religion better then the Greeks? The Greeks had gods, they worshipped the gods, and yet they were still able to have lovers of both genders.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

After deciphering the code you speak in, I can see you have no proof.

Because you don't like homosexuality doesn't make it wrong. Because I'm allergic to peanuts does not make them wrong.
yup and just be cause Hitler's direct underlings killed their own children that doesn't make them wrong.
thats how i feel homosexuality works if you don't i dont care becasue i think you are wrong.

what makes your religion better then the Greeks? The Greeks had gods, they worshipped the gods, and yet they were still able to have lovers of both genders.

Because Christians think all those who are not should be killed. Or gays. Or blacks. Or anyone who isn't a white, straight, ultra-conservative, capitalist Christian.

[dp]

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Alexander The Great was in fact gay, it has been proven. He had many male lovers, and he shaped the world in a very powerful way. Alexander the Great was one of the greatest leaders of all times, and in fact was gay. No if ands or buts about it.

Really??? I heard he was BI-sexual.

I'm sorry, i was wrong, upon my quick research through old history notes, you are indeed correct, he had loves of both genders. Nevertheless, he had male partners, and this was accepted, and should still be accepted.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

whoops...dp

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

After deciphering the code you speak in, I can see you have no proof.

Because you don't like homosexuality doesn't make it wrong. Because I'm allergic to peanuts does not make them wrong.
yup and just be cause Hitler's direct underlings killed their own children that doesn't make them wrong.
thats how i feel homosexuality works if you don't i dont care becasue i think you are wrong.

You, Sir, have APD.

American
Personality
Disorder

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You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

His name was Phillipe, and he became King of France long before Richard became King of England. As it turns out, Phillipe was (probably) just manipulating him. Sad, isn't it?

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

How do YOU know he WASN'T gay? Did you hit on him and get rejected?
here i go again how do you know he was i know crusader right the bible doesn't exactly encourage sex with members of the same gender, in fact it says that is one of the most important commandments its under adultry.

here i go again how do you know he was i know crusader right the bible doesn't exactly encourage sex with members of the same gender, in fact it says that is one of the most important commandments its under adultry.

All off that.. One period. Scary.

You, Sir, have APD.

American
Personality
Disorder

:evil: :evil: :evil:

[OOC: Don't paint ALL Americans with the same brush you polluted by touching DF.]

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

How do YOU know he WASN'T gay? Did you hit on him and get rejected?
here i go again how do you know he was i know crusader right the bible doesn't exactly encourage sex with members of the same gender, in fact it says that is one of the most important commandments its under adultry.

This assumes that the Crusades were religiously motivated. They weren't. By the time Richard's father Henry II was on the throne, the relationship between the crown and the papacy was already almost entirely political. Henry used Christmas as nothing more than a pretense to set up political negotiations on at least one occasion. Richard went on a crusade for political purposes. For the record, his older brother Geoffry was also gay, and far more so. He also had an affair with Prince Phillipe.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

His name was Phillipe, and he became King of France long before Richard became King of England. As it turns out, Phillipe was (probably) just manipulating him. Sad, isn't it?

how unfortunate for richard.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

How do YOU know he WASN'T gay? Did you hit on him and get rejected?
here i go again how do you know he was i know crusader right the bible doesn't exactly encourage sex with members of the same gender, in fact it says that is one of the most important commandments its under adultry.

actually, no it's not. It is, however, right next to the commandment about how hard you can beat your slave, (it's ok so long as he doesn't die within 3 days). I think the crusaders may have overlooked the little "the meek will inherit the earth" line.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

You, Sir, have APD.

American
Personality
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:evil: :evil: :evil:

[OOC: Don't paint ALL Americans with the same brush you polluted by touching DF.]

sarazonia has a point, I'm american...not that I like it. I consider myself russian at heart...lol

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

His name was Phillipe, and he became King of France long before Richard became King of England. As it turns out, Phillipe was (probably) just manipulating him. Sad, isn't it?

how unfortunate for richard.
COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

you hope I die, but you're being patient. I'm afraid that was so stupendously ludacris it was amusing. By the way, the witchcraft christian persecuted is statistically the fastest growing religion in the USA, buddhism, which christians never fought until recently, is making a huge entry into the nation, yoga, a form of hindu mysticism, is thriving like never before, and the list goes on and on. as an aside, I find genocide a bit difficult to "GET OVER".

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

His name was Phillipe, and he became King of France long before Richard became King of England. As it turns out, Phillipe was (probably) just manipulating him. Sad, isn't it?

how unfortunate for richard.
COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

I'll now consider myself luckei. I won't insult your religon again. now if you would kindly do the same and stop insulting my love, and my existance, we can get on with our lives. :D

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

you hope I die, but you're being patient. I'm afraid that was so stupendously ludacris it was amusing. By the way, the witchcraft christian persecuted is statistically the fastest growing religion in the USA, buddhism, which christians never fought until recently, is making a huge entry into the nation, yoga, a form of hindu mysticism, is thriving like never before, and the list goes on and on. as an aside, I find genocide a bit difficult to "GET OVER".
at least its not my religon you brought up.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

actually, yes it does. Gay men have shaped the world (and I'm sure lesbian women, but unfortunately they don't get as much written about them). The Greek culture that shaped the modern world has some very strongly homosexual artwork, numerous important personages, like da vinchi, socrates, (he was just bi), richard the lionheart, julius caesar (bi again), alexander the great, have been gay. Thousands upon thousands of hugely influencial, world shaping people were gay, there are religions movements, stories (achilles' love of patroclus was central to the illiad, a recent american movie skimmed over it, annoying me). I would venture to say that no "minority" has had a greater influence on the world. We definately have a history - perhaps moreso than many. It takes personality to be different - this is a group defined not by who their parents were or where they were born, but by who they actually were, and who they loved, at very worst a shared neurosis. Don't dismiss them as having no history. I've also read that gay men have differently sized hypothalymuses than straight ones. so yes, we do have a history - it's quite interesting and you WOULDN'T have one if we didn't, and there is a great deal of science involved in our psysiology as well.
richard the lionheart the oh yeah crusader um no he wasn't gay he was a crusader for pete's sake. sorry but i will wait until you submit written prove to belive any of the others from people who were alive at the time some vague mention won't cut it.

Read a little, though if you read like you write I could understand why you wouldn't retain much of it. by the way, yes, richard the lionheart was gay. He had an affair with a french prince who name has slipped my mind...what his being a crusader had to do with anything is beyond me.

His name was Phillipe, and he became King of France long before Richard became King of England. As it turns out, Phillipe was (probably) just manipulating him. Sad, isn't it?

how unfortunate for richard.
COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

I'll now consider myself luckei. I won't insult your religon again. now if you would kindly do the same and stop insulting my love, and my existance, we can get on with our lives. :D
ok truce i'm to strained to argue about this for awhile anyway.

ok truce i'm to strained to argue about this for awhile anyway.

thank you.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP CALUCULTA

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP

well said... :roll:

Whoa...when did "waist" become a verb?!

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP

that was exactly the response you should not have given, at least if you wanted to avoid proving his point.

COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

And you're on a lot of other people's last nerves. Mine included.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

And you're on a lot of other people's last nerves. Mine included.
then join the truce and shut up.

The rioters should beat the living crap out of these morons and their lifestyle.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

And you're on a lot of other people's last nerves. Mine included.
then join the truce and shut up.

telling someone to shut up isn't the best way to go about forming a truce.

COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

And you're on a lot of other people's last nerves. Mine included.
then join the truce and shut up.

You don't tell me to shut up. I can't think of a single legitimate religion that advocates the kind of hatred and ignorance you're spewing forth.

No one here is insulting your religion any more than you are by making such horribly argued posts.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP

that was exactly the response you should not have given, at least if you wanted to avoid proving his point.


I quoted all that for the sake of quoting and wasting space, but hey, at least I referred to the quote in my response. Any how, Dark Fututre's lack of grasp of basic spelling and grammar skills as well as his inability to use skillful diplomatic tactics has also been getting on my nerves. (See anti-anti-UN thread) (He'll probably start flaming me again.) (And then criticize me for not making an arguement, when there is nothing in his 1st grade, broken English to argue back on.)

if a moderator ends ups reading this please lock this topic.

COULD YOU POSSIBLY STOP INSULTING MY RELIGON CONSIDERING I PUT UP WITH YOU AS LONG AS I HAVE IF YOU BRING MY RELIGON UP ONE MORE TIME I WILL BE VERY TEMPTED TO CUSS YOU OUT SO BAD CONSIDER YOU'R SELF LUCKEI IF I DON'T BECASUE YOU ARE ON MY LAST NERVE

And you're on a lot of other people's last nerves. Mine included.
then join the truce and shut up.

telling someone to shut up isn't the best way to go about forming a truce.

[OOC: If it weren't against protocol to go to war IC with someone for OOC reasons, I'd have gone AMF on him by now.]

To Dark Future:

Sir, we do not seek to insult your religion. I have not made any statement as to the validity or integrity of your religion. In fact, I as yet do not know what your religion in fact is. We merely seek to point out historical facts about human men and women who have followed the same (or similar) religious ideals and doctrines. That specific individuals may have done things you find objectionable seems beside the point. No person is infallible, all have made mistakes. I apologize for any perceived slight against yourself or your faith, but insist that I have made no comments against you intentionally.

Respectfully yours,
The Holy Empire of Pallia

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP

that was exactly the response you should not have given, at least if you wanted to avoid proving his point.


I quoted all that for the sake of quoting and wasting space, but hey, at least I referred to the quote in my response. Any how, Dark Fututre's lack of grasp of basic spelling and grammar skills as well as his inability to use skillful diplomatic tactics has also been getting on my nerves. (See anti-anti-UN thread) (He'll probably start flaming me again.) (And then criticize me for not making an arguement, when there is nothing in his 1st grade, broken English to argue back on.)
i won't flame you you at least are quiter then these people. less quoting more caring and consideration.

You want us to teach about homosexuality? How are you supposed to do that? There's nothing to learn about it. It's not like it has a history or a science to it.

What I meant when I said "teach" it, is that you should teach of how normal it is. It is the simple love between two beings of the same sexuality. Two beings in love. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with it, nothing evil. And untill people are taught this they will respond in fear of it, and hate it.
and going against nature world wide tradition and their own health being in love fine having sex no no no it is not evil just sorta sick grose and well hate to say this wrong.

going against nature? this happens in animals too, if that's waht you mean by nature. I might also point out that murder, rape, and genocide are compeltely natural...so I sincerely hope you don't base your ethical system on what is "natural". world wide tradition? that's utter crap it wasn't until bigoted christians overran the world with their guns that it went against it - cross dressers were revered by the native americans as having special insight into both halves of the creative power, being closer to god.
God i Hope you die some time soon i am being paient with you and you keep bashing me :twisted: saying that my religon is full of bigots you bigot and even if we did overrun the world welcome to history lane we did it with swords if we did, did you notice all these religons that we did not kill (although there were lots of conversions) are now gone. we who over ran the world would like to say we were their first if we killed them it was over 400 years ago GET OVER IT, cross-dressers on and on about other religons proving that they totally lack a better argument then Christianity is wrong so they must be right i am lossing my temper this isn't good but oh well.

It's not that your religion is "stronger" or "better". Religion is brain wash, religion is a dictatorship. you'll notice EVERY religion has one things in common; God. Now i'm sure there is a god, but i know religion is human, we developed it, we use it to give limits. You're religion is still an on going religion because it has a very seductive story line to it. isn't "bashing" you religion, Anticarnivoria is merely pointing out that your Religion is known for commonly being ignorant.
I AM NOT GOING TO WAIST MY NATION ON YOU BUT SHUT THE HELL UP

that was exactly the response you should not have given, at least if you wanted to avoid proving his point.


I quoted all that for the sake of quoting and wasting space, but hey, at least I referred to the quote in my response. Any how, Dark Fututre's lack of grasp of basic spelling and grammar skills as well as his inability to use skillful diplomatic tactics has also been getting on my nerves. (See anti-anti-UN thread) (He'll probably start flaming me again.) (And then criticize me for not making an arguement, when there is nothing in his 1st grade, broken English to argue back on.)
i won't flame you you at least are quiter then these people. less quoting more caring and consideration.

No comment.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.

ah, just curious, would you or friends of yours be the aforementioned apes? why do you care who I love?

No not really but I do know you fags got your virus from monkeys so I would just think it would be kind of ironic if AIDS didn't get you monkeys did.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.
that is cold brutal and wrong even if they are wrong (don't take this as a braking of truce) that is cruel sick gross and above all else WRONG

No not really but I do know you fags got your virus from monkeys so I would just think it would be kind of ironic if AIDS didn't get you monkeys did.

Ah, I'm afraid the majority of the gay community is HIV negative.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.

first off, it's spelt "stomachs".

second, i request that you give a detailed reason on why homosexual's have no "right" to live. Until then i shall ignore your ignorant comments.

Ah, the majority of people with AIDS are gay.

Look it up.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.
that is cold brutal and wrong even if they are wrong (don't take this as a braking of truce) that is cruel sick gross and above all else WRONG

Thank you, that was christianity speaking.

Ah, the majority of people with AIDS are gay.

Look it up.

read further back in this thread please and you will notice that you are wrong and you will read why you are wrong.

:D I just wanted to say congratulations to the people of Ryanania. You have just become my favorite nation in Nation States. Good Job and continue to keep the fags out of the public view. :D

perhaps you could teach it to spell? May I ask, do you condone burning us alive then? the entymological root of "fag" (literally a bundle of sticks used for bonfires) implies that the object being named "faggot" is suitable for burning. Should I be burnt alive?

Actually I would make all of you swallow hot coals until they burn through your stomacks and feed your remains to hungry apes.
that is cold brutal and wrong even if they are wrong (don't take this as a braking of truce) that is cruel sick gross and above all else WRONG

Thank you, that was christianity speaking.indeed

Ah, the majority of people with AIDS are gay.

Look it up.

...no, the majority are heterosexuals in africa

the HIV virus was not founded by a man having sex with a monkey. This is a rumor, this was, and still is believed by ignorant people who believe whatever they hear.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.

Ah, I'm afraid the majority of the gay community is HIV negative.

(First off, I'd like to point out a neat trick I just showed you. Delete the unapplicable part of the quote.)

(Second off, why isn't this thread on topic any more?)

(Third off, the real point of this post:) The majority of the heterosexual community is HIV negative. What's your point?

Ah, the majority of people with AIDS are gay.

Look it up.

[OOC: Loks like quite a few people got up on the "stupid" side of the bed this morning.]

Were talking about the U.S. here.
And What does Christianity have to do with this?
Did I say God was going to burn you in hell fire?
No thats right its just the fags bashing yet another religion.

The majority of people with AIDS are dying.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.

please define "normal", becuase i think you have the wrong definition of the word. also homosexual people do not "force" how they feel on others, they just ask that they are not abused for who they love.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.
dude you aren't helping at all you know stop cussing be less insultful they are more likly to listen to you.

you don't define giving people tips on debating as breaking the truce right

The majority of people in the world are dying. Life is the only uncurable, 100% fatal STD. Dark Fututre is so bad at spelling he can't even spell his nation right. Dark Fututre probably is also very gay, and is (not all homosexuals are, but Dark Fututre is, and not just because he is gay) very suitable for burning. Kerosene anyone?

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.

force tolerance? how does one force tolerance? we bastards do have hollywood don't we? technically, if we "have" the american media, we basicly won.

This thread is the best thread ever. It belongs in general. It has nothing to do with an anti-gay riot. It is entirely player bashing. And no one cares at all. Plus, the NationStates poster doesn't have a spell/grammer check for Dark Fututre and so, seeing no red/green squigglies, he assumes it's A-Okay!

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.
god i so warned everyone who read this thing not to insult or even bring up for negative reasons christanity. one last chance if any one decides to bring it up as defined above i will most likely fogure out a way to ruin them without war preferably

force tolerance? how does one force tolerance? we bastards do have hollywood don't we? technically, if we "have" the american media, we basicly won.

Non-tollerable people shall not be tollerated.

The majority of people in the world are dying. Life is the only uncurable, 100% fatal STD. Dark Fututre is so bad at spelling he can't even spell his nation right. Dark Fututre probably is also very gay, and is (not all homosexuals are, but Dark Fututre is, and not just because he is gay) very suitable for burning. Kerosene anyone?

how about water instead. that should wake him up, you're a prick, darling.

It just annoys me that these people can say "omanss teh religionz iz teh br4inwashors" and be praised like damned philosophers.
Yet people say "I don't like the gay lifestyle" and be marked as a bigot.
That is where my anger comes from.
And "Normal" is a man and a woman together ok.
There is a penis and a vagina for reasons.

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.

A very valid point, although violence with words must also be considered.

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.

the evil in any beleif system has a tendency to destroy itself, there is wisedom in christianity - a great deal of it, people just take it WAY too literally, I won't even get into gnostic christianity here but give christianity a chance - I'm approximately buddhist so this obviously isn't a self defense thing...nietzsche was a bitter person. god would not have tasted very good.

Uhm, again, this thread is like at least 2 pages of off-topic posts, so if an admin sees this, please lock this thread. Until then, I'm having fun making fun of people who couldn't pass 2nd grade Spelling or Grammar.

"kill the gays"
"kill the gay bashers"

this is all i seem to hear. "oh burn the hater", "burn the pro gay".

the one thing no one has been able to supply is in fact why homosexuality is wrong! I'm going to have to say that the reason you can not give a legit reason is becuase it is in fact not wrong, you may not agree, but thats your problem that you yourself has to deal with sooner or later.

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.
note i did not do that on this topic no fasle pursecutors

It just annoys me that these people can say "omanss teh religionz iz teh br4inwashors" and be praised like damned philosophers.
Yet people say "I don't like the gay lifestyle" and be marked as a bigot.
That is where my anger comes from.
And "Normal" is a man and a woman together ok.
There is a penis and a vagina for reasons.

again with the procreation argument? my anatomy doesn't define who I am, the world is overpopulated so procreation is hardly a valid argument anymore, and "normal" is probably closer to a man who had a homoerotic experience in his early teens or some time since then and a woman who is fundamentally bisexual in a loose relationship they fealt compelled to enter, as it would reinforce them as legitimate members of society. Normal is not strictly heterosexual. Nor, I might add, is normal necessarily right.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.

force tolerance? how does one force tolerance? we bastards do have hollywood don't we? technically, if we "have" the american media, we basicly won.

I admit you fags have pretty much taken over the country.
Do I have to like it?
No.
Will I try to do something about it?
Probably when the time comes.
Oh and "sad-sad" is yet another reason why I would love to torture the soul out of you.
If you atheists could just leave the worlds religions alone and not bash them constantly calling them "teh brainwasherszz" I would probably "tolerate" you but nope I would just love to see you all die.

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.

A very valid point, although violence with words must also be considered.

i agree 100% with you, violence through words is just as pathetic. Logic, and reasoning in the end will win every fight, if not now, then tomorrow, or 10 years down the road.

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.

A very valid point, although violence with words must also be considered.

i agree 100% with you, violence through words is just as pathetic. Logic, and reasoning in the end will win every fight, if not now, then tomorrow, or 10 years down the road.

thank you two.

I don't understand why everyone's solution to another is through violence. It is possible to settle difference through words, and not physicsal acts of violence.

A very valid point, although violence with words must also be considered.

i agree 100% with you, violence through words is just as pathetic. Logic, and reasoning in the end will win every fight, if not now, then tomorrow, or 10 years down the road.

Amen to that.

Okay, this is not my idea, but it sounds good. I just can't take credit for it. It is my friend's idea. I have really no problem with the gay population. The fact of the matter is, the smacktards they are, they are Darwinizing themselves. (Google Darwin Dark Fututre since I know you know nothing about him.) Anyway, while I was googling for something else, look what I found. A picture of Dark Fututre:

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/typoguy.jpg

By the way...grouping athiests = wrong. Grouping any thing = wrong. I don't appreciate being grouped as an athiest. (Note: I'm not grouping gays except in this post, which it is undeniable that true gays are not procreating, so in that case, it is okay to group. If you group me as an athiest in that I don't believe in anything supernatural or superstitious, then that is fine.)

I would still like the reasoning behind your anti-homosexual statements please. I only wish to know why something so Natural is so wrong. Yes, i called it natural, becuase the essence of a man loving another man, or a woman loving another woman is based on love, and love; affection, can be found in any species, race, or culture around the globe.

So all of you admit that bashing any type of lifestyle (Christianity/Homosexuality) is wrong?
Then I hope that when some jackass comes in here saying that religion is brainwashing that you guys actually tell him that he's also a bigot.
Instead of the typical double standard towards religion and everything else.

They do deserve to live.
The point is that they are constantly trying to force "tolerance" upon the rest of the normal people on planet earth and to be quite honest I really don't want to be tolerant of homosexuality at all.
So call me a bigot or whatever little moronic insult you fags have for NORMAL people like me because the more you feed the flame of forceful tolerance the more we are going to hate you.
So if you want to screw all the men you want FINE but don't go to a country that does not really like this sort of crap and make a lesbian movie.
You bastards have Hollywood for that.

force tolerance? how does one force tolerance? we bastards do have hollywood don't we? technically, if we "have" the american media, we basicly won.

I admit you fags have pretty much taken over the country.
Do I have to like it?
No.
Will I try to do something about it?
Probably when the time comes.
Oh and "sad-sad" is yet another reason why I would love to torture the soul out of you.
If you atheists could just leave the worlds religions alone and not bash them constantly calling them "teh brainwasherszz" I would probably "tolerate" you but nope I would just love to see you all die.
Ok i am just hoping you aren't a christain if you are then you should go speak with you're pastor/bishop about that post and the tourture the soul out of you part mainly that is just need i repeat my self WRONG

I don't call anyone a bigot. I just don't mess with people because it causes stupid stuff like this. Calculta, I'm not sure who you are talking to. But anyway, I was thinking...You know what...

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/gaythread.gif

And I'd like an admin to lock it down, please.

Opal for once i agree with you some one lock this topic

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.
god i so warned everyone who read this thing not to insult or even bring up for negative reasons christanity. one last chance if any one decides to bring it up as defined above i will most likely fogure out a way to ruin them without war preferably


Ooh, I'm shakin' in my jesus-skin boots. Why dont you and Genesis Fallout turn your little "god" against me? Sic em boy!

Now excuse me while I go and lick chocolate syrup off the nether-regions of my statuette of mother Mary. Hey, at least it's not gay.

It's actually funny though.
True homosexual persons can't procreate, hence (as the one of the previous posters said) they should "Darwinize" themselves out of the genetic chain.
However, most of the so-called "proud homosexuals" just have a really bizzare fixation, when in reality they're as heterosexual as they can be.

So excuse me if some "gay pride" parade is being bashed to bits, they did deserve that, because either:
a) they were lying to themselves or the rest of the people by pretending to be homosexual AND proud about that
or
b) they are truly homosexual, hence if they get removed now or later from this world it makes no big difference

Bisexuality, on the other hand, I have no problem with that :P
At least they're honest, hehe.

So all of you admit that bashing any type of lifestyle (Christianity/Homosexuality) is wrong?
Then I hope that when some jackass comes in here saying that religion is brainwashing that you guys actually tell him that he's also a bigot.
Instead of the typical double standard towards religion and everything else.

Yes in an earlier post i stated this, but can you prove to me that it is not? I believe in god, but to be told that god says this, and that i can and can't do things, or have to do soemthing, or i'm wrong to do another thing is brainwashing. Look at the different types of religion, this is my point, different types, no facts, but all have in common that there is a god. Yes i am attacking your religion on an ethical level, but i'm not attacking your god.

Now excuse me while I go and lick chocolate syrup off the nether-regions of mother Mary. Hey, at least it's not gay.

child, that was utterly unhelpful, and necrophilia is most unappealing.

So all of you admit that bashing any type of lifestyle (Christianity/Homosexuality) is wrong?
Then I hope that when some jackass comes in here saying that religion is brainwashing that you guys actually tell him that he's also a bigot.
Instead of the typical double standard towards religion and everything else.

Absolutely. Unfounded hatred is wrong no matter what that hatred is directed against. As far as calling people bigots, I tend to make a point of not doing so: it is uncivilized and generally unproductive. It is also in poor taste to point out to others their lack of manners.

As a side note, if some individual or group has repeatedly shown real tendencies toward some degree of unfounded hatred (which isn't to suggest that any group being here discussed has done so), a disdain for that individual or group is not unfounded, and therefore is not bigotry.

It's actually funny though.
True homosexual persons can't procreate, hence (as the one of the previous posters said) they should "Darwinize" themselves out of the genetic chain.
However, most of the so-called "proud homosexuals" just have a really bizzare fixation, when in reality they're as heterosexual as they can be.

So excuse me if some "gay pride" parade is being bashed to bits, they did deserve that, because either:
a) they were lying to themselves or the rest of the people by pretending to be homosexual AND proud about that
or
b) they are truly homosexual, hence if they get removed now or later from this world it makes no big difference

Bisexuality, on the other hand, I have no problem with that :P
At least they're honest, hehe.

again you miss the entire point of homosexuality.

Now excuse me while I go and lick chocolate syrup off the nether-regions of mother Mary. Hey, at least it's not gay.

child, that was utterly unhelpful, and necrophilia is most unappealing.

Well, this thread has descended beyond help. It's time to have a little fun at the expense of jehova's li'l crusaders. Aren't they adorable when they're mad?

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.
god i so warned everyone who read this thing not to insult or even bring up for negative reasons christanity. one last chance if any one decides to bring it up as defined above i will most likely fogure out a way to ruin them without war preferably


Ooh, I'm shakin' in my jesus-skin boots. Why dont you and Genesis Fallout turn your little "god" against me? Sic em boy!

Now excuse me while I go and lick chocolate syrup off the nether-regions of mother Mary. Hey, at least it's not gay.
oh sex quotes you almost make me mad but in truth i have been thinking and in the end you go to hell and i go to heaven so until someone converts you i can't help and i am fireing T.H.E. D.A.Y. W.I.L.L. C.O.M.E

God is dead. Nietzsche killed him. And I ate his flaming corpse.

The next logical step, of course, is to eradicate christianity.
god i so warned everyone who read this thing not to insult or even bring up for negative reasons christanity. one last chance if any one decides to bring it up as defined above i will most likely fogure out a way to ruin them without war preferably


Ooh, I'm shakin' in my jesus-skin boots. Why dont you and Genesis Fallout turn your little "god" against me? Sic em boy!

Now excuse me while I go and lick chocolate syrup off the nether-regions of mother Mary. Hey, at least it's not gay.
oh sex quotes you almost make me mad but in truth i have been thinking and in the end you go to hell and i go to heaven so until someone converts you i can't help and i am fireing T.H.E. D.A.Y. W.I.L.L. C.O.M.E

again you miss the entire point of homosexuality.
Oh really, and what would that be?
Love? Affection? Yeah right !

If a person wants to invoke THAT specific reason when justifying his preference towards another person of same sex, THAT is ok.

If a person tries to invoke that in justifying his preference towards ONLY persons of same sex, that's a pshychological problem.

Oh, okay, this is supposed to be being moved over to general, but I thought I'd leave with one final gift you guys. I made a chart of this thread. Enjoy!

http://www.p0stwh0res.com/images/postchart.jpg

again you miss the entire point of homosexuality.
Oh really, and what would that be?
Love? Affection? Yeah right !

If a person wants to invoke THAT specific reason when justifying his preference towards another person of same sex, THAT is ok.

If a person tries to invoke that in justifying his preference towards ONLY persons of same sex, that's a pshychological problem.

alright, i was close to swearing, but i choose not to. Yes for love and affection. They "parade" that they're proud becuase they choose not to hide any longer, if you would stop oppressing them then they would have no need to parade it around.

However, most of the so-called "proud homosexuals" just have a really bizzare fixation, when in reality they're as heterosexual as they can be.

Source for this?

However, most of the so-called "proud homosexuals" just have a really bizzare fixation, when in reality they're as heterosexual as they can be.
Source for this?
Common sense ?
The fact that they WANT children ?

Locked for being completely off topic... take it to general people.

again you miss the entire point of homosexuality.
Oh really, and what would that be?
Love? Affection? Yeah right !

If a person wants to invoke THAT specific reason when justifying his preference towards another person of same sex, THAT is ok.

If a person tries to invoke that in justifying his preference towards ONLY persons of same sex, that's a pshychological problem.

Would you argue the same of a person who invokes it "in justifying his preference towards ONLY persons of" opposite sex, as well?