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Rebellion against Dontgonearthere's occupation

Swedish Dominions
18-06-2004, 23:02
In the shadow of the diplomatic talks between SD & DGNT a rebellion has started to end the DGNT occupation.
They have started demonstrations
http://truthout.org/imgs.art_01/3.nazi.demo.chi.jpg

And a "small" army.

http://phantom.urbis.net.il/terror/theater/army_kids.jpg

http://students.humsci.und.ac.za/200273524/images/flags.jpg

The people are tired of the communist ruling, they demand better lives.

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/aboriginal/parade.jpg

the Government has nothing to do with this, this is a group called Free Dominions.
FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE, FREEDOM TO THE DOMINIONS
(that's going to be my motto, when i gain idependence)
Muktar
18-06-2004, 23:05
Muktar will send peacekeepers to help restrain the uprising if DGNT allows it.
Swedish Dominions
18-06-2004, 23:07
Why won't you lust let it be, let democracy have it's course.
The Rebellion is for idependency and freedom for 929 Million people.
Dontgonearthere
18-06-2004, 23:07
In response to these actions the Dontgonearther Occupational govornment has begun dropping slips of paper from planes, on these is a questionair asking the rebels what they would like in a new govonrment.

Aside from that we would request that any demonstrations be schedualed ahead of time, so we can reroute traffic.

If a demonstration happens to turn violent then we will be forced to use violence in return, but only a minimal level. As of now troops are being issued taser-batons and tear gas grenades, as well as orders not to shoot anybody in areas likely to cause permenant damage.
Muktar
18-06-2004, 23:08
<-- is communist, both in NS and IRL.
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 23:08
The elite Bonstocknian 6th and 9th Airborne Divisions are put on high alert, to be deployed to Swedish Dominions should DGNT take action against the rebellion.
Dontgonearthere
18-06-2004, 23:10
We will not strike the first blow in this case.
If rebels attack any DGNT personell or civilian targets within SD we will take action against them, but they can feel free to march about waving flags and rifles all they want, we'll let the SD police deal with them.
Swedish Dominions
18-06-2004, 23:12
In response to these actions the Dontgonearther Occupational govornment has begun dropping slips of paper from planes, on these is a questionair asking the rebels what they would like in a new govonrment.

Aside from that we would request that any demonstrations be schedualed ahead of time, so we can reroute traffic.

If a demonstration happens to turn violent then we will be forced to use violence in return, but only a minimal level. As of now troops are being issued taser-batons and tear gas grenades, as well as orders not to shoot anybody in areas likely to cause permenant damage.

The Government should be facist . The People want it, and they must get it. The Rebellion will become violent if the following demands are not met.

1. Full independence
2. Removal of DGNT troops
3. An Autonomous government
4. And make us breakfast.......
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 23:14
Six Bonstocknian carrier battlegroups have departed for the waters around Swedish dominions, with six CV-21 class carriers, 36 DD-21 Zumwalt destroyers, 12 Seawolf class submarines, six Wasp class LHAs, and six maritime replenishment ships.

They will lay anchor about 200 miles from Swedish Dominions, as a show of force.
Dontgonearthere
18-06-2004, 23:14
1. In nineteen years.
2. See number one.
3. See number two.
4. A continental breakfast is on its way from a reasonably priced hotel.
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 23:15
4. And make us breakfast.......

Swedish pancakes with lingonberries, or we kill you! :twisted:
Swedish Dominions
18-06-2004, 23:17
We demand independence now....
Why in 19 years?


PS.
Our economy will implode if Bonstockia blockade us (in friendly purposes).
We rely heavily on foreign trade.
The Breakfast tasted like shit.....
WE WANT MEATBALLS, MASHED POTATOES AND LINGONBERRIES...
Dontgonearthere
18-06-2004, 23:17
In response to Bonstocks naval move Dontgonearthere has parked three Justice Class Destroyers (DGNT Space Navy) over the coast and informs Bonstock that there is a fleet sitting up there.

Trade will also be rerouted through DGNTs naval forces if Bonstock decides to stop trade.

The reason is that DGNT is going to ensure a democratic govornment, rather than, say anarchy or a dictatorship.

OOC:
Futuretech, the occupation/declaration was with my modern army, but if you attack me, well...
Ravea
18-06-2004, 23:23
Ravea would supply weapons and supplies to the Rebels if they would wish it.
Communistpoland
18-06-2004, 23:25
Communistpoland is disgusted by the fact that the swedish people would be sick enough to use child soldiers in a "fight for independance", however we are to wrapped up in the euopean conflict to do anything about the rise of fasicsts in Sweden.
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 23:25
ooc: to make sure that the Bonstocknian proposition is shown on more then one page:

ic:

We only ask that the occupation end earlier then nineteen years from now. We believe, however, that there is room for compromise. We assume that Swedish Dominions already has local control, of police forces, infrastructure, schools, welfare, and hospitals. They should be allowed to collect taxes and spend money for this purpose. DGNT should, for perhaps five years, or a more reasonable date then nineteen years, be able to control SD's foreign affairs and provide for national defense. They should do this while training a new, non partisan army and preparing for free elections.

If this is adhered to, the Federal Republic would also like to deploy a small force to help aid DGNT in the occupation, and possibly give SD a more friendly occupation force, since many Bonstocknians are Swedish descendants and speak Swedish.
Muktar
18-06-2004, 23:26
For clarity:
The reason DGNT occupies SD is because SD tried to make an AIDs varient that spreads like the flu. Literally.
Swedish Dominions
18-06-2004, 23:26
The Rebellion has begun it's first campain.
They have started to march towards New Stockholm.
the sweat ran from all of the soldiers.
The locked and loaded.
When they arrived to New Stockholm they saw the victims.
They aimed, ready, CHARGE.
They charged towards the newly opened MacDonalds and grabbed a BigMac.

The General was in shock.
Just next to MacDonalds the Parliment was located.
They were gonna take the building.
When they came out they were filled.

"50 in a row" one of the soldiers said
"64" Said another one

they wanted to go home.

The operation was aborted.
Dontgonearthere
18-06-2004, 23:31
See the other thread for our response Bonstock.

---

Inside the MacDonalds a DGNT officer and three soldiers sit with their burgers halfway to their mouths, then start to laugh.
Dontgonearthere
19-06-2004, 10:45
:arrow:
Swedish Dominions
19-06-2004, 16:38
10 years is still a very long time. How about 5 years.

-----------------------------

The Rebellion tried another campain.
They are gonna attack a DGNT garrison.
But on the way there the soldiers saw a nice Toys R' Us.
They Charged there and started playing.
When they came out they were exhausted.
The General started screaming.
the Officers pulled some guns and started killing their men.

A massacre.

They carved in in their foreheads with a knife.
"This man betrayed the Führer"
Sigmis Central Control
19-06-2004, 22:13
*annoyed tag* can you not keep it to a thread or two, why this one,why so many extra threads.
Credonia
19-06-2004, 22:52
tag
Communist Mississippi
19-06-2004, 23:01
Secret Offer:

[code:1:5144cc780c] Communist Mississippi will allow rebels to use training camps in Communist Mississippi and we will also give them 100 billion dollars worth of weapons and other valuable equipment. Furthermore, we will help organize them, and we will train them to fly C-130s to transport their units and such. We will give the rebels any conventional weapons they want. We will also allow soldiers and civilians from our nation to volunteer to join your rebellion efforts. You can expect about 100,000 volunteers. They have no affiliation with the Communist Mississippi government. Do you accept this offer. [/code:1:5144cc780c]


Super Secret Offer: [code:1:5144cc780c] We will help arm you with 100 Mi-24 helicopters each armed with 128 chemical weapons rockets (4 - 57-mm S-5 rocket pods (32 ea.). We will also help you by providing other valuable weapons. [/code:1:5144cc780c]
Swedish Dominions
19-06-2004, 23:06
Secret Offer:

[code:1:6647f9b583] Communist Mississippi will allow rebels to use training camps in Communist Mississippi and we will also give them 100 billion dollars worth of weapons and other valuable equipment. Furthermore, we will help organize them, and we will train them to fly C-130s to transport their units and such. We will give the rebels any conventional weapons they want. We will also allow soldiers and civilians from our nation to volunteer to join your rebellion efforts. You can expect about 100,000 volunteers. They have no affiliation with the Communist Mississippi government. Do you accept this offer. [/code:1:6647f9b583]


Super Secret Offer: [code:1:6647f9b583] We will help arm you with 100 Mi-24 helicopters each armed with 256 chemical weapons rockets (2-4 - 57-mm S-5 rocket pods (32 ea.). We will also help you by providing other valuable weapons. [/code:1:6647f9b583]

Secret IC:

Offer Accepted, but wait with the volunteers a while.
Dontgonearthere
20-06-2004, 00:25
Nine years to go.

In an attempt to pacify the rebels Dontgonearthere has instituted a public-works project for the construction of new homes, civil services and whatnot.
Workers will be paid Swedish Dominions minimum wage, plus a dollar an hour for overtime and will be givin health benifits and such.
On another note, SD School children were givin a tour of a Justice class destroyer today, and allowed to blow up a tree. Sadly a squirril was killed.
We are currently seeking the squirrils family and hope to offer reparations, twenty million acorns are being imported from one of DGNTs colony worlds.
Swedish Dominions
20-06-2004, 15:52
Nine years to go.

In an attempt to pacify the rebels Dontgonearthere has instituted a public-works project for the construction of new homes, civil services and whatnot.
Workers will be paid Swedish Dominions minimum wage, plus a dollar an hour for overtime and will be givin health benifits and such.
On another note, SD School children were givin a tour of a Justice class destroyer today, and allowed to blow up a tree. Sadly a squirril was killed.
We are currently seeking the squirrils family and hope to offer reparations, twenty million acorns are being imported from one of DGNTs colony worlds.

The Whole of the SD are shocked of the death of the squirrel......
They are going into mourning.

This is a black day in the history of the SD, the squirrel is an endangered species.
Dontgonearthere
20-06-2004, 17:30
Well they will be an extremly fat endangered species.
Liberal John Jacob
21-06-2004, 04:48
Secret IC:The Peoples republic of Liberal John Jacob supports Swedish Dominions Uprising against their oppresors

Secret IC: Encoded Radio transmission: If requested, the peoples republic will provide naval support to Swedish Dominions.


EDITED
Credonia
23-06-2004, 12:35
Credonian News Network 6/23/2004 7:26 am CST

In a bold show of support for the growing want of independence by the people of Sweedish Dominions, Credonia has taken a more aggressive stance towards the illegal occupation and annexation by the nation of DGNT. President Sutton today in a press conference made the following statements: "Today, Credonia realizes what is really going on. WHile Sweedish Dominions has been labeled as a "rogue nation" DGNT went too far in declaring it part of their empire. I see this as an act of imperialism and contend that efforts to impose restrictions upon SD is just another way of controlling the government through occupation. While DGNT has agreed to a mutual stand down of military forces, they fail to realize that the people will revolt if occupying forces do not leave, and for that reason, Credonia will NOT pull or reduce its forces in SD until all of the occupying fores leave the nation. Credonia will deal with SD like it deals with all other rogue nations, without the intimidation factor being involved. If you really want peace, pull your forces out, and cooperate with Credonia so that we can push for peaceful reforms in SD to turn this rogue nation, into a nation that is civilized and not a threat to the world."
Dontgonearthere
23-06-2004, 17:17
Dontgonearthere
23-06-2004, 17:20
Dontgonearthere will respond to Credonias 'Offer' by stationing detachments from the Third and Fourth fleets above Swedish Dominions.
(5 Justice class destroyers, 2 Millenia class Battleships, 1 Victory fleet Carrier, 1 Hive carrier, 10 Pax class cruisers, 6 Rook heavy cruisers, 2 Watcher class sensorbases).
As a further measure against Credonia making sudden descisions to 'liberate' SD we have issued orders for the deployment of an equal number of troops, and call on our allies to provide what they will.
We simply warn that cold wars get hot, and it will not be us firing the first shots.

In response to Credonias political assertions:
Dontgonearthere refutes your allegations, and requests that you show some proof that this occupation is illegal. We did it for the good of both this govornment and the world, as we have said before.
So far we have impoesd two restrictions activly upon the govornment of SD, no building of the bioweapon AIDS virus, and reduce the amount of nuclear construction (OOC: From a godmoddably high amount that would have gotten him ignored, that could have been a problem since our troops may have found themselves in the middle of an oceaon) and in THAT case we offered to provide the maximum amount and a discount price.
Civilized? A nation that creates a global-killer virus is CIVILIZED? Well give me the last few years of the Thosand Year War.
Credonia
23-06-2004, 18:01
If you want a cold war, then a cold war you shall get.

Also, you ask me for proof of your illegal occupation, wheres YOUR justification for practically annexing SD? Answer that

BTW, i didnt call SD civilized, i said "....and cooperate with Credonia so that we can push for peaceful reforms in SD to turn this rogue nation, into a nation that is civilized and not a threat to the world."
Dontgonearthere
23-06-2004, 19:51
The SuperHappy Funtime Empire does not want a cold war, you leave us little choice in the matter.

The Empires justification for occupying SD is, as has been stated so many times before, that the nation was in the process of developing a global killer virus which was most likley for use as a first strike weapon by a rouge nation.

And I fail to see how we can civilize a nation if there is a 3:1 ratio of our soldiers to his citizens.
Credonia
24-06-2004, 01:33
Credonia does not want a cold war either, but you leave us no choice. Stop avoiding my question. What right do you have to ANNEX a nation? If you wanted to help it, you wouldnt have annexed it. You would simply place forces in and force a change and rid it of its research and production facilities to create such a weapon. What you did was totally uncalled for and now, your actions have brought us to this situation.

Therefore, I am giving you 48 hours to withdraw from Sweedish Dominions and renounce SD as part of your wreched empire or Credonia will be forced to take hostile actions, and im sure no one wants that. Once again, I assert that Credonia will take care of this nation. Millions of your soldiers need not die over such a small nation, and for a cause that Credonia can guarantee will be taken care of personally. Times a-tickin, and the ball has been tossed in your court. Time to make a decision Mr. Emperor.
Pilchuck
24-06-2004, 01:45
Red Tide2
24-06-2004, 02:15
OOC:DAMN CREDONIA! Your gonna get killed! (not positive on this)
Dontgonearthere
24-06-2004, 02:27
Actually, its President.

The nation of Swedish Dominions is not a permenant part of our Empire, only for five more years, followed by another five of govornment monitoring and the stationing of a small garrison, once that is done we will have no presence in any part of the nation. Think of it as protective custody. My 'right' comes from the fact, again, that this nation WAS DEVELOPING A VIRUS THAT COULD HAVE COST TRILLIONS OF LIVES. How often must this be said?

In response to your threat we have recalled our current troops to the garrison and issued a warning:
If Credonia procedes with this course of action Dontgonearthere will be forced to call upon its naval forces and an orbital bombardment of Credonias troops will be performed. The Swedish people have nothing to fear, except those that attack Dontgonearthere and allied troops.

To your deadline, we respond:
You have fifty hours to leave.

If you persist your troops will burn and your ashes scattered on the winds.
Credonia
24-06-2004, 16:28
OOC:DAMN CREDONIA! Your gonna get killed! (not positive on this)


OOC: Ive gone up against bigger badder nations in the same kind of situation....i know what im doin ;-) besides i have a 4 million man army with 15 million conscripts waiting to fight, so we shall see.
Credonia
24-06-2004, 17:07
Actually, its President.

The nation of Swedish Dominions is not a permenant part of our Empire, only for five more years, followed by another five of govornment monitoring and the stationing of a small garrison, once that is done we will have no presence in any part of the nation. Think of it as protective custody. My 'right' comes from the fact, again, that this nation WAS DEVELOPING A VIRUS THAT COULD HAVE COST TRILLIONS OF LIVES. How often must this be said?

In response to your threat we have recalled our current troops to the garrison and issued a warning:
If Credonia procedes with this course of action Dontgonearthere will be forced to call upon its naval forces and an orbital bombardment of Credonias troops will be performed. The Swedish people have nothing to fear, except those that attack Dontgonearthere and allied troops.

To your deadline, we respond:
You have fifty hours to leave.

If you persist your troops will burn and your ashes scattered on the winds.

OOC: President, emperor, same difference, both are heads of state :-P

IC:
Credonian troops are not budging from their positions within SD and you cannot force us to move from our ALLY's territory. I have no intention of throwing a first blow as PEACE is the main objective here, and if you were to do so, you would only be making your own self look bad. However, you still cannot justify annexing a nation, whether it be permanent or temporary, because of a nation that undertakes such a project. No nation in history has ever annexed a nation for such reasons (the US didnt with iraq now did it?) Now, if you want a bloody war, then fire the first shot, i dare you too, but Credonian troops are not moving from their positions. YOu have 5 days to do what you have to do and leave as you promised. FIVE DAYS, no more, no less.
Credonia
24-06-2004, 17:07
Actually, its President.

The nation of Swedish Dominions is not a permenant part of our Empire, only for five more years, followed by another five of govornment monitoring and the stationing of a small garrison, once that is done we will have no presence in any part of the nation. Think of it as protective custody. My 'right' comes from the fact, again, that this nation WAS DEVELOPING A VIRUS THAT COULD HAVE COST TRILLIONS OF LIVES. How often must this be said?

In response to your threat we have recalled our current troops to the garrison and issued a warning:
If Credonia procedes with this course of action Dontgonearthere will be forced to call upon its naval forces and an orbital bombardment of Credonias troops will be performed. The Swedish people have nothing to fear, except those that attack Dontgonearthere and allied troops.

To your deadline, we respond:
You have fifty hours to leave.

If you persist your troops will burn and your ashes scattered on the winds.

OOC: President, emperor, same difference, both are heads of state :-P

IC:
Credonian troops are not budging from their positions within SD and you cannot force us to move from our ALLY's territory. I have no intention of throwing a first blow as PEACE is the main objective here, and if you were to do so, you would only be making your own self look bad. However, you still cannot justify annexing a nation, whether it be permanent or temporary, because of a nation that undertakes such a project. No nation in history has ever annexed a nation for such reasons (the US didnt with iraq now did it?) Now, if you want a bloody war, then fire the first shot, i dare you too, but Credonian troops are not moving from their positions. YOu have 5 days to do what you have to do and leave as you promised. FIVE DAYS, no more, no less.
Dontgonearthere
24-06-2004, 17:36
OOC: I take it you mean five RL days.
And I have a twenty million man army :P...well, on Earth five million...thats the problem with having an interstellar Empire ;)

IC:
And yet again, Dontgonearthere states that it will not fire the first shot.

Again, Dontgonearthere points out that trillions of lives, as opposed to one who broke his ankle getting out of a landing craft and was eaten by a seal, would have been lost due to this virus, is that what you want? Do YOU have an AIDS vaccine? So far we have been very fair to Swedish Dominions, there have been only three major intereferances with the govornment and people, we blocked the virus and destroyed all materials related, stoped a major-nuclear buildup and gave some acorns to a needy family of squirrils.

Two more years of military occupation and five of govornment supervision. At that point we will leave forever and not come back unless SD does something majorly stupid.
Derscon
24-06-2004, 17:38
The Czar of Derscon fully supports the DGNT government, regardless of its communist affiliation.

General (retired) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Empire of Derscon
Dyelli Beybi
25-06-2004, 03:32
Dyelli Beybi wishes to officially condemn the innebriated President of Credonia, such belligerence against the Federation of Klatch can only be met with excessive force.

We wish to highlight this as yet another example of Credonia's support for terrorism, by attempting to force legitimate Klatchian occupation forces from leaving a terrorist state.

-The Dyelli Beybian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders
Central Facehuggeria
25-06-2004, 03:53
"We advise the beligerent Credonian nation to back down in this matter. A war with DGNT and the allied powers will result in extremely heavy casualities for the Credonian people. We also remind Credonia that Swedish Dominions was annexed for their own protection. There are several nations that would have stepped in and claimed parts of SD permanently had Dontgonearthere not intervened. Temporary annexation is better than permanent annexation correct?

Regardless, we stand ready to assist and defend DGNT possessions with our Earth based armies, should President 47 desire it."

-The rarely used CF Diplomatic Corps.
Dontgonearthere
25-06-2004, 04:22
Dontgonearthere thanks the above nations for their show of support and hopes that Credonia will reconsider its course of action.
The Macabees
25-06-2004, 04:31
As a staunch opposer of Communist oppression, and an ally of many pro-capitalist nations, including: Whittier, Matich, Dr_Twist and Credonia; we loudly and publicly support Credonia and those attempting to tear the bonds of supressing Communism from them. We will aid the destruction of those chains which tie this small slave state to Dontgonearthere.

Be warned; we will help Credonia.
Derscon
25-06-2004, 04:51
So you would strip a nation from communism and go to True facism? Yes, they are both oppresive forms of government, but Communism is clearly the lesser of two evils, here. Although the Czar will not be able to contribue military force at this time, the Czar fully supports the Dontgonearthere government.

The Czar sends his condolences to the family of the killed squirrel.


General (retired) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom of Derscon
Vrak
25-06-2004, 05:06
As a staunch opposer of Communist oppression, and an ally of many pro-capitalist nations, including: Whittier, Matich, Dr_Twist and Credonia; we loudly and publicly support Credonia and those attempting to tear the bonds of supressing Communism from them. We will aid the destruction of those chains which tie this small slave state to Dontgonearthere.

Be warned; we will help Credonia.

To: The Macabees Diplomats
rom: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: "oppression"

While we really don't care much about the whole situation, we would hope that some type of compromise can be reached by all concerned parties. As well, stop putting on airs with your name dropping. It means nothing to us. Finally, The Macabees, if you and any other forces dare attack the Klatch directly then you shall face us all. So now, you have been warned in turn.
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 05:24
OOC: sorry, I didn't see this Thread until now.

IC:

The Empire of Balrogga has in the past and will now, and into the future, support our ally in this matter. The SD was developing a genocidal weapon that would have murdered most of the world. Several nations not only opposed this action, but they also were going to make SD a nation of GLASSED EARTH. DGNT stepped in and threatened to invade before anyone could start throwing their nuclear WMDs at the island nation. Before DGNT even arrived, SD unconditionally surrendered to DGNT. Because of the surrender, he has the right to do anything he wants to them. It was unconditional after all.

What did DGNT do that was a crime? He set his occupation to two decades, build a garrison (which will be given to SD in the end) to house his troops, and kept millions of occupational troops from overpopulating the country in competing "peacekeeper" missions. This looks like he is supporting and protecting SD sovergnity. How many other nations would let them off so easily? Most would have carved the island nation into little territories. He is letting them free after a short time.

If anyone acts against DGNT I will, as stated before, support him in any manner. I fully support and count myself as one of his allies.

I already have two dozen Proteus fighters stationed at the Garrison and I can drop more from orbit at a moments notice. If the drunken president of the Credonian nation fires the first shot we guarantee the last will be fired by the allies of DGNT.

One last thing, how many of your people would have gotten infected by SD's virus before it started to show signs after 4 days? Remember, it is a lethal form of AIDS that spreads like the Flu....

My fighters stand ready to respond to the foolish actions.
Dontgonearthere
25-06-2004, 05:59
The Macabean govornment obviously does not comprehend the situation.
From what I can see, Credonia plans to make Sweden a puppet, so far Dontgonearthere has only interfered with the govornment of Sweden TWICE. Once to stop the InflueAIDS and once to reduce his nuclear project from 2000 nuclear missiles to 500 or less.
Slave state? Hardly.
Credonia
25-06-2004, 13:31
One More year until your forces leave. Credonian forces will remain in there place until they are gone. Despite the reputation SD has around the globe, mainly known as a rogue or even terrorist nation, we will Support them to the fullest extent, while working with the SD government to make some serious reforms, that only Credonia could bring about with peaceful and lasting results. Credonia and its support for its ally will not be intimidated by nations who illegally annex nations, no matter what their TRUE intentions are.

Furthermore, let it be made known that Credonia has no interest in making SD a puppet nation as it would serve us no real purpose, especially with the lack of a strong military and diplomatic ties thta the government possesses. It would be pathetic to try to use a nation that is shunned on upon the world, would it not be?

OOC: If you wish to have a say in those reforms once your forces leave, which i presume will be tomorrow, send me an IM and we can discuss it.

Aim- Alexsutton007
MSN- Kaimoni_Sutton@hotmail.com
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 16:18
...Credonia and its support for its ally will not be intimidated by nations who illegally annex nations, no matter what their TRUE intentions are....

For my comment on your quote see below

...Ok we surrender, this isn't worth it...

...and why is this taking place?

...The SDMS (Swedish Dominions Military Scientists) has discovered a way of cloning HIV viruses.
They have found a way of making a hybrid between the HIV virus and an ordinary Flue virus. This way the HIV will enter the body the same way as a flue, via the mouth or nose. And it will infect every individual the infected meets. Just like a flue.

The infected will not notice the virus until 4 days later. Until then the infected will have lots of time spending with other individuals.
And the process goes on.

Now for the big question. How to deliver the virus.

You can either infect a "guinnie pig" and send the individual to the desired place. The individual will infect as many people as possible until he/she dies 4-10 days later.
If this works in reality the amount of dead within a week could well exeed 10 000 people, and nobody will now what hit them.
...

The next quote clearly proves they knew what they were developing:

...I will call this - the EOM Virus (End of Mankind). it will scare even the most respectable nation...

Some people thought it was a bomb they were developing and asked SD to stop developing it. Here is their response:

...Bomb?

What bomb?

There are no Bomb?

Only a Global Killer Virus in a Lab!...

Once they clarified what they were creating, they were asked again to stop.

...We will not cease development...

All invading armies will be treated as guinea pigs....

To prevent this from killing the whole world DGNT sent his troops:

...ULTIMATUM TO SWEDISH DOMINIONS:
Surrender within the next RL day and your country will be spared, you will become a part of the Dontgonearthere Empire until further notice, but will retain a measure of soverignty, the other nations who have decided to aide DGNT activly will be allowed to send peacekeeping forces to make sure their interests are expressed...
...if Swedish Dominions surrenders by 9:00 AM (Pacific time) tommorow they will be spared our full wrath and eventualy regain their soverignty (under a new govornment), if they do not...well...its best not to think about that for now.
...

They never even reached the shores of SD before they sent DGNT this message:

...Ok we surrender, this isn't worth it...

And this is ther acceptance of the terms:

We accept DGNT's terms...

Where do i sign?


As you can see, SD knew the conditions of their surrender before they complied with the large number of nations who were supporting DGNT.

You can read the documents yourself if you wish.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153664&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

My nation will continue to support this action to the end. I will not remove my fighters station at the Garrison until DGNT leaves.
Credonia
25-06-2004, 17:23
I am well aware of the terms that he surrendered under as we discussed them on MSN, theres no need to point out the obvious.
Credonia
25-06-2004, 17:23
I am well aware of the terms that he surrendered under as we discussed them on MSN, theres no need to point out the obvious.
Credonia
25-06-2004, 17:24
I am well aware of the terms that he surrendered under as we discussed them on MSN, theres no need to point out the obvious.

And theres no use continuing to argue about this anymore as none of the sides are threatening a first strike, and DGNT's part of the "deal" is being kept.
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 17:45
How would anyone else know what you discussed on MSN? The previous post was for the rest of the nations to see what happened.

But have you even taken the time to see what the sides are?

The side that supports the nation that wanted to treaten the population of the world:

Credonia
Comunist Mississippi
Ravea
Macabees
Liberial John Jacob (in secret)


The side that wants to save trillions of lives:

Dontgonearthere
Central Facehuggeria
Sigmis Cantral Command
Communist Louisiana
Greenmanbry
Balrogga
Celtayoshi
Rufai
Thunderstraat
Muktar
Derscon
Dyelli Beybi
Vrak
Bonstock

These are just nations that pledged their support to either DGNT or Credonia. I am not including SD in this list because it is part of DGNT for the time being. There are many more nations that oppose the situation that has not committed their support to either side although most appeared to support the halt of the crime against humanity.
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 17:45
please disregard the tripple post. server lag.
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 17:46
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 17:48
Balrogga
25-06-2004, 17:49
darn server lag
Dontgonearthere
25-06-2004, 20:18
Dontgonearthere
25-06-2004, 20:18
OOC: I would assume I have the support of the FKC, my region, since Vrak is technically the 'leader'.

IC:
DGNT will have control have the SD govornment for the remainder of the year, at which point the people of SD will elect their own govornment by their choice, Dontgonearthere military forces will ensure the fairness of these elections.
After the end of the year DGNT military forces will remain in SD for five years for above stated reasons, as well as preventing other nations from taking advantage of the SD govornments weakened state and instabilty.
Alcona and Hubris
25-06-2004, 23:52
The Klatchian State of Dontgonearthere has the moral obligation of any State of the Klatch to live up to its promises. At the same time it is apparent that some members of the international community do not trust their stewardship in the process of rebuilding the nation of Swedish Dominions into an independent democracy. May I suggest the following compromise postion that would hopefully satisfy all.

That Dontgonearthere will transfer control of the the territory of Swedish Dominons to the Klatchian Privy Council where is will be run as an Unorginized Territory of the Klatchian Government. If this suggestion sound reasonable I would be more than happy to work out the details with the Dontgonearthere Government.

http://www.eng.auburn.edu/users/donatgw/victoriatiny.jpg
Landgravine Hubris
Outer Consul of the Federated Klatchian Coast
Overal Military Commander, Klatchian Joint Defense Forces
Ph.D, ORC, MOG, HRH

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Secured Klatchian Scrambled Message
Privy Council Code, Office of the Outer Consul.
Message Route Inter Klatchian Government Dontgonearthere
Subject: Change of Territorial Control

Really, we don't have time for fighting two wars. At the present stance you could not call upon JDF forces to be used to protect your forces in Swedish Dominons as it is not Klatchian Territory. I really don't want to run the place, we would just have whatever senior offical of your government is currently overseeing the situation put into a non-voting postion on the Privy Council and add a few staffers to publish a monthly evaluation report.

General Victoira Crawford

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OCC: Based on the current relationship between your Swedish Dominons territory and the Klatchian Federation I'd say you need to present a vote in Parliment to get support beyond prevention of an invasion.

Oh, and the Privy Council controls the Military...the President could sit on it but currently the votes are in the hands of (Alcona and Hubris, Jiggady (Queen), and Durakus...)

Oh and that Flu/HIV thing popped into my head reacently but more as a natural pandemic than a weapon...hard to control since there is no cure for either the Flu or HIV...
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 00:18
Dontgonearthere sees no point in bothering to transfer control, since the nation of Swedish Dominions will have control turned back over to the people in three months (OOC: Assuming 2 RL hours = 1 NS month), the only DGNT presence will be the small military force for the purposes the govornment has stated so many times already.
We thank A&H for its suggestion, though, and next time we 'Illigaly occupy a soverign nation that never threatened anybody except the entire world', we will contact you.
Alcona and Hubris
26-06-2004, 00:24
OOC note: Although she is an Alconian...that should be considered a statement of her role as a member of the Klatchian Government.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 00:26
OOC:
It wouldnt be worth it, most people would agree.
Alcona and Hubris
26-06-2004, 00:35
Actually I hadn't realized how close the election was. I find this all a bit unsettling that the international community is threating war so near the end of an election cycle.

-Landgravine Hubris
Balrogga
26-06-2004, 02:10
Actually the international community is threatening to keep SD safe from rogue nations until it is stable.

DGNT, would you like my Proteus fighters to remain in your defense until the 5 year "probationary" period is over? Please let me know what you decide.
Balrogga
26-06-2004, 02:13
OOC:

I don't think the time the boards are down should count towards the 5 year timespan since nobody will be able to access Nation States.

To see what I mean please check out this link:

http://www.nationstates.net/news/

Hopefully this means we will have better servers......
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 02:20
DGNT will be happy to host your fighters until the end of the five years.

OOC:
That time period doesnt count, since nobody will be RPing at all.
Balrogga
26-06-2004, 02:30
Then they will remain until you turn over the Garrison to SD at the end of the occupation. The fighters will remain to help defend SD from invaders.


OOC: You can command them but I would like to RP them. Just tell me what you want them to do.
Austar Union
26-06-2004, 02:41
#### SECRET TELEGRAM TO DONTGONEARTHERE ####

We pledge our diplomatic support in your endeavour to help restore order to this world, and are surprised that the Credonians would aid such an international threat. We believe that your temporary occupation has been nessasary, and would even support a permanant occupation of Swedish territory.

We cannot send military aid to your campaign, as technically the Credonians are our ally, however we would be willing to give you the funds, and access to $200 Billion worth "Economic Aid" to "Help Restore Swedish Dominions"

Please note that this support must be kept purely secret. Thankyou.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 02:47
Only one month to go until SD becomes his own nation again. Thankfully none of the threatened wars came to pass.

Secret to AU:
We do not thank you for not-supporting us in any way, and are not at all greatful for the money you did not send us, the bank transfer that did not happen has been removed from all records it did not exist in.
Again, we do not thank you. :wink:
Dyelli Beybi
26-06-2004, 13:26
Credonia has once again shown their determination to opress the free people's of the world. They must be stopped, their leader must be tared, feathered and horse whipped.

The Dyelli Beybian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Diplomatic Blunders
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 16:33
SD is now officialy a free nation again.
DGNT military forces have settled in for a five year wait.
Credonia
26-06-2004, 16:51
Credonian forces will remain in SD until the "illegally" occupying forces have withdrawn.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 17:11
Yeah, we kinda figured that.

The truth of the matter is that we have been considering a mutual defence pact with SD (IF he ever logs back on), and arranging the purchase of land for a permenant base.
Credonia
26-06-2004, 17:58
typical, i expected something like this to transpire......
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 18:00
This will be entirely SDs descision, a perfectly legal five or so square miles of landscape with a garrison no larger than our current force.

Would you attempt to infringe upon SDs soverignty?
Credonia
26-06-2004, 18:01
what he does and what he decides is his own decision, however, you can be sure that i will be talking to him about this as well.
Balrogga
26-06-2004, 22:02
You seem to be obsessive about getting SD alone.

Is there another motive behind this other than "freedom for SD"? Hmmmm....

If SD or DGNT asks me to stay I will also set up a base, but only if asked by either of them.


Something just doesn't seem right about your actions and obsessions.

Only time will tell I guess.
Skirt Shortening
26-06-2004, 22:24
The Armed Republic of Skirt Shortening offers to send 10'000 highly skilled peacekeepers who will make sure Swedish Dominions will live safely during the transition of power. We will move in if it's agreed by SD and DGNT.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2004, 23:22
DGNT thanks Shirt Shortening, but must request that it keep its peacekeepers out of SD, its rather crowded as is and the last thing we need now is more troops.
You may feel free, however, to keep your troops at the ready in case of any...incidents.
Chellis
26-06-2004, 23:48
Chellis would like to take this time to denounce Credonia's aggresive behavior.
Derscon
26-06-2004, 23:54
The Czar fully supports DGNT in this, and is happy to see that his promise was fullfilled.

The Czar also condemns Credonia's troops in Sweedish Dominions, and requests (with a passion, so to speak) that Credonia immediately remove them, as Credonia's intentions seem a bit shady.

General (ret.) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom of Derscon
Skirt Shortening
27-06-2004, 01:38
DGNT thanks Shirt Shortening, but must request that it keep its peacekeepers out of SD, its rather crowded as is and the last thing we need now is more troops.
You may feel free, however, to keep your troops at the ready in case of any...incidents.

We are on standby.