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Dracun Declares War on Armed Knights(ignore it)

Dracun imperium
18-06-2004, 22:03
Prolouge: For asasinating our great leader Clan Chancellor Manstara, for using terrorist actions, for basicly declaring war on the Dracun Imperium! The Dracun's Hereby declare war on Armed Knights. Our strength shall hold no bounds and our morals gone...

Current:
The Clan Council has voted 97%-3% to war.
We the Dracun Imperium officaly have Declared war on Armed Knights. Although bigger and stronger we hold no fear. The reason being the murder of Kyocin Manstara(Chancellor) and a terrorist act in which they commited and admited to. The war will be long and bloody but we shall hold firm. This is our country's finest hour and we shall win!.

Offical Statement from recently elected Clan Chancellor Kotan,
Be strong my people, for we will overcome this grand threat. Let your hate surface and let it be your strength for when the Armed Knights feel our wrath they will wish they never killed Kyocin...Let his memory stirs strength within you and let it be the tool in which use to win this war!

With high moral the armies of the Imperium are mobilizing and withdrawing from conflicts around the world.

OOC:Due to Armed Knights larger size we will be using elite/guerilla troops. This will be a very bloody and large conflict. We inivte all of you to join!
the following units will be used for now and are being mobilized
100,000 Dracun Infiltration unit
2,000 sniper
200,000 A.R.C. troopers
200,000 Dracun Slayers(Marines)
300,000 Dracun Elite

Air force and Naval units will be posted in next post
Dracun imperium
18-06-2004, 23:17
BUMP
Whittier
18-06-2004, 23:29
The UPR wishes to know the justification for this attack on a member of the Whittier Pact.
Whittier
18-06-2004, 23:30
Where is the link that proves your accusations?
IDF
18-06-2004, 23:31
The UPR wishes to know the justification for this attack on a member of the Whittier Pact.
being a member of the whittier pact, we may have to come and help Armed Knights. Give us good justification or face our wrath.

Whittier: I need instructions here on possible blockades, naval units are being told to untie and get underway
Terronian
18-06-2004, 23:31
I demand a link or some sort of prove
18-06-2004, 23:47
I asasinated the Clan?

OMG! What did I do?!?! Seriously, I dont remember anything.
Dracun imperium
18-06-2004, 23:48
Armed Knights


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OOC: Finally, some action!

IC:

We are the one responsible.



and if you wish for bulletproof proof here the file http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153681&highlight=
Weapons-Tech incorp
18-06-2004, 23:50
sniff sniff i smell a lier :)
dont mind me just watching
18-06-2004, 23:54
Armed Knights


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OOC: Finally, some action!

IC:

We are the one responsible.



and if you wish for bulletproof proof here the file http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153681&highlight=

Sorry.. Sorry..
If was a typo.. I meant to put "weren't".

But if you continue to wage war, I will fire the I.G.N.O.R.E. Cannon.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:02
ooc:Im sure that is a typo......How could that be a typo and even if it was a typo...why would you fire the I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon at a nation smaller then you why not fight it out?
West Scotland
19-06-2004, 00:07
OOC: If he were to fight it out you would be the obvious wrong one, because he *didn't* really assasinate your leader.

IC:

Dracun, please reconsider your declaration of war...West Scotland isn't too pleased, and we have accumulated a rather large supply of cruise missiles after the extra ones ordered for FWS were never used.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:09
ooc:He didn't assasinate my leader but he is responsible which means there is a connection the way i posted above is the way the Dracuns think. They belive that Everyone in Armed Knights is respobsible and such so it just a figure of speech. Btw im not the smartest=P So i think this what you meant by your ooc post

IC:We will not back down unless of course there is a change in the goverment! The goverment is ovbiously responsible as they clearly stated even if they simply hired someone. Unless there is a change in goverment we will not back down
Genotton
19-06-2004, 00:10
Genotton will support Dracun as a member of K.N.S.
19-06-2004, 00:14
ooc:Im sure that is a typo......How could that be a typo and even if it was a typo...why would you fire the I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon at a nation smaller then you why not fight it out?

Then that'll ruin my international affairs.

It's like US attacking Iraq, becuz Bush said that there was WMDs at Iraq when there wasn't. US was just attacking Iraq, so they can be on it's control.

If I'd attack a puny nation like you, that'll ruin my international reputation and affect our alliances. If you choose to still invade me, Armed Forces will keep you off our mainland and if you choose to drop any bombs by air, we will shoot it down, even if it's a nuclear missile. We have plenty of Anti-Nukes Missiles. Altho, We will not attack on your mainland border, unless you harm us in a way that kills our citizens.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 00:19
OOC: Armed Knights.. you have no right to ignore him... invasions or attacks do not need legit pretexts to continue... most wars, in fact, are done under false pretexts (Iraq being an example).

IC:

In the territory of Freemantia, conquered long ago, by emperors long dead, but never forgotten, Task Force Inferno began to ready themselves for a new mission. Most of Macabee attention had gone to the Zarbian resistance, but High Kommand thought that they could fight two wars at once. Thus, this...

The wharfs at Targul Frumos, the largest port in the Territory of Freemantia, was busy as ever. Wharf workers were loading shells and missiles onto Macabee ships, and people crisscrossed the walkways. Large trucks began to drop in more ammunition, and men in white lab coats walked around calculating logistical costs.

The only person in the fleet who knew of the destination was Grand Admiral Karl Langston - a Freemantian citizen who had risen through the ranks of the colonial navy. They would head towards Dracun Imperium, where 200km off the coast of this "empire" would sit the ASW perimeter - protecting the task force at 600km radius perimeter.

The Macabee jugernaut was off to war again... perhaps empire was at hand again?

OOC:

For anybody who cares I conquered 200,000 sq.mi. of Freemantia WAYYY before Hitler III even declared war on him.
19-06-2004, 00:19
ooc:He didn't assasinate my leader but he is responsible which means there is a connection the way i posted above is the way the Dracuns think. They belive that Everyone in Armed Knights is respobsible and such so it just a figure of speech. Btw im not the smartest=P So i think this what you meant by your ooc post

IC:We will not back down unless of course there is a change in the goverment! The goverment is ovbiously responsible as they clearly stated even if they simply hired someone. Unless there is a change in goverment we will not back down

Ugh! Us to back down and change our government? Never! We'd love to see you try for us.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:20
Dream all you want Armed Knights. Our troops will do anything to avenge Clan Chancellor Manstara. Listen to reason or we will make you wish you listened
Offical statement from Clan Chancellor Kanton

OOC:You cant shoot down every missile i send to you unless your either future tech or you spend a lot of money on anti missile defense system...Can you post ooc the anti aircraft/missile defense system ?
Terronian
19-06-2004, 00:23
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:26
ooc:Macabees as i have stated before im not the smartest=p can you specify ooc of course whether your for me or against me?
19-06-2004, 00:30
Armed Defense Forces has the State of the Art Defense Techology. I've gotten Armed Knights about 300,000 Anti-Nuke/Missile Missiles. And a total of 3 million nukes. I've deposited millions of billions of dollars on defense just to calm my people and not have to relie on what kinds of danger their in.

I've been observing the feelings of my citizens and now I know how they feel. I'd dun wanna get shot because of my poor defense fundings.. would I? Thats why I put many on my defense.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 00:31
ooc:Macabees as i have stated before im not the smartest=p can you specify ooc of course whether your for me or against me?

OOC: At this point I'm remaining neutral.

IC:

To: Dracun Imperium

Well, telling from recent events your making much of the world hate you. We have no interest in seeing Dracun becoming another provence of Whittier and his allies. Therefore, I ask you that you sell me one of your largest naval ports in your territory for 2 billion USD a year and allow me to stockpile naval assets as well as land assets to futher your defensive protection.

[signed]Emperor Jonathan (Finegold VI, Catalan I)
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 00:35
Armed Defense Forces has the State of the Art Defense Techology. I've gotten Armed Knights about 300,000 Anti-Nuke/Missile Missiles. And a total of 3 million nukes. I've deposited millions of billions of dollars on defense just to calm my people and not have to relie on what kinds of danger their in.

I've been observing the feelings of my citizens and now I know how they feel. I'd dun wanna get shot because of my poor defense fundings.. would I? Thats why I put many on my defense.

OOC:

Wow..it's you who should be ignored! 300,000 Anti-Nuke Missiles???!? Each missile has a production cost of some 20 million dollars..if you're counting on anything like S-400 success rate... meaning all that costs you 600,000,000,000 (600 billion) to produce...and costs you about a fifth of that EVERY YEAR to upkeep... try something more like 20,000 anti-missile rockets maximum...

3 million nukes? Each costing you about 400 million to contruct (including the highly expensive warhead)? Yea... I suggest you lower that to around 50,000 max... plus nukes are for wimps... learn to RP. You look like you know how to RP...don't waste your skill launching nukes.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:37
OOC:your number are way off from the people i have talked to (hogsweat/sovietbloc/Jordaxia all say those numbers are way of course (tone down the missile system a little though)
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:40
Macabees:We have a world base in the southern island called oddly world base. You are welcomed to own the remaing area of 25 miles of waterline and inner land for free. No need to pay us.
19-06-2004, 00:40
Armed Defense Forces has the State of the Art Defense Techology. I've gotten Armed Knights about 300,000 Anti-Nuke/Missile Missiles. And a total of 3 million nukes. I've deposited millions of billions of dollars on defense just to calm my people and not have to relie on what kinds of danger their in.

I've been observing the feelings of my citizens and now I know how they feel. I'd dun wanna get shot because of my poor defense fundings.. would I? Thats why I put many on my defense.

OOC:

Wow..it's you who should be ignored! 300,000 Anti-Nuke Missiles???!? Each missile has a production cost of some 20 million dollars..if you're counting on anything like S-400 success rate... meaning all that costs you 600,000,000,000 (600 billion) to produce...and costs you about a fifth of that EVERY YEAR to upkeep... try something more like 20,000 anti-missile rockets maximum...

3 million nukes? Each costing you about 400 million to contruct (including the highly expensive warhead)? Yea... I suggest you lower that to around 50,000 max... plus nukes are for wimps... learn to RP. You look like you know how to RP...don't waste your skill launching nukes.

OOC: I'm sorry I didn't mention.

It's 2 million nukes.. and I have 200,000 Anti Nuke/Missile Missiles. Yet, we know they are expensive, but most of them were provided by strong allies or we've bought them.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:42
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?
Chellis
19-06-2004, 00:45
Armed Defense Forces has the State of the Art Defense Techology. I've gotten Armed Knights about 300,000 Anti-Nuke/Missile Missiles. And a total of 3 million nukes. I've deposited millions of billions of dollars on defense just to calm my people and not have to relie on what kinds of danger their in.

I've been observing the feelings of my citizens and now I know how they feel. I'd dun wanna get shot because of my poor defense fundings.. would I? Thats why I put many on my defense.

OOC:

Wow..it's you who should be ignored! 300,000 Anti-Nuke Missiles???!? Each missile has a production cost of some 20 million dollars..if you're counting on anything like S-400 success rate... meaning all that costs you 600,000,000,000 (600 billion) to produce...and costs you about a fifth of that EVERY YEAR to upkeep... try something more like 20,000 anti-missile rockets maximum...

3 million nukes? Each costing you about 400 million to contruct (including the highly expensive warhead)? Yea... I suggest you lower that to around 50,000 max... plus nukes are for wimps... learn to RP. You look like you know how to RP...don't waste your skill launching nukes.

OOC: I'm sorry I didn't mention.

It's 2 million nukes.. and I have 200,000 Anti Nuke/Missile Missiles. Yet, we know they are expensive, but most of them were provided by strong allies or we've bought them.

Well, AK just got on my ignore list....2 million nukes...
IDF
19-06-2004, 00:46
I am joining in favor of Whittier pact nations. Posts of numbers later
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 00:49
IDF:the whittier pact has yet to side with anyone. But you side with AK even though there is suffiecent proof he was involved?
19-06-2004, 00:49
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?

West Scotland
Hawaiian Islands - Bankrupted
The Zoogie People
Chinese Airforce - Bankrupted
19-06-2004, 00:55
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?

*sigh*

IC:
Fine, here's 'realistic'.

I have 50,000 nukes and 100,000 Anti-Nuke/missile Missiles.
An defense army of 1.3 million (cant say I'm godmoding) armed with AK-47s.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 01:29
OOC: Looks much better :P

IC:

Ah, now that the sell of the military base - renamed Inferno Base I/A - the Macabees began to ship major military equipment, including enough for five compact RADAR stations, three compact SONAR stations, and several hundred sensors, all intertwined to act as an anti-missile system, as well as an early reaction sensor, along with 500 Praetorian IIIAs and 500 Praetorian IIIBs, in a hasty expansion of the Praetorian Defense Program. Task Force Inferno would berth in their new home, and keep an ASW perimeter 400km in radius, to watch for Whittier pact woolheads trying to pounce of Dracum territory.

Also to be sent would be 125 of the new Chevallier Selp Propelled Assault Guns, 125 Pz. IX Sargon Ausf. Bs and 40 MMA-A1 Kondors (air superiority fighters), along with an infantry garrison of 3,000 legionairres. Most of these would be from Freemantia, murderers and such looking for adventure and killing; not respectable Macabee citizens. Nonetheless, they represented a formidable force, and it would take dozens upon dozens of thousands of enemy soldiers to dislodge them.
West Scotland
19-06-2004, 01:38
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?

West Scotland
Hawaiian Islands - Bankrupted
The Zoogie People
Chinese Airforce - Bankrupted

No...just West Scotland. (TZP is my puppet and has ridiculously low amounts of nuclear weapons and a shameful nuclear program right now)
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 01:47
We ask one more time. Diplomacy would be a better coarse. Less lives or none. We ask that your current leader step down and we will leave and our threats be empty. That is all we ask. We do not want a full blown war but we will have one if it is nessacary.




ooc:Also can we each provide a map of eachother nations?)
Whittier
19-06-2004, 01:48
Armed Defense Forces has the State of the Art Defense Techology. I've gotten Armed Knights about 300,000 Anti-Nuke/Missile Missiles. And a total of 3 million nukes. I've deposited millions of billions of dollars on defense just to calm my people and not have to relie on what kinds of danger their in.

I've been observing the feelings of my citizens and now I know how they feel. I'd dun wanna get shot because of my poor defense fundings.. would I? Thats why I put many on my defense.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
That nuke number is godmoding cause no one can have that many.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 01:50
ooc:Whittier:He made them lower to 50,000...but i hope nukes wont be used they ruin rps sometimes....most of the time
Whittier
19-06-2004, 01:51
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?

*sigh*

IC:
Fine, here's 'realistic'.

I have 50,000 nukes and 100,000 Anti-Nuke/missile Missiles.
An defense army of 1.3 million (cant say I'm godmoding) armed with AK-47s.
50,000 is still too much. A nation of your age probably shouldn't have more than around 500 to 800.
Whittier
19-06-2004, 01:53
ooc:Whittier:He made them lower to 50,000...but i hope nukes wont be used they ruin rps sometimes....most of the time
50,000 is still too much for a nation of his age. If he was like almost a year old I could see him having 20,000 nukes.
19-06-2004, 02:00
[i]Macabees, you presence of this war is unusual. You are a wise country, but unfornately, you attack us for no known reason. Dracun's people look toward us as enemy. I beg you to back down.

Like I said, I will not attack Dracun mainland, so there is no known reason for your defense to be at Dracun. Also, we are here just to defend all attacks The way you are heading is to my land, which I've already blocked with mines and heavy guarded troops.

We have WMDs, but we are not going to use it. You are attacking us because Dracun's people think we're responsible. You attacking us because you guys want to change my government.

I consider you guys, Warmongers.
19-06-2004, 02:00
Macabees, you presence of this war is unusual. You are a wise country, but unfornately, you attack us for no known reason. Dracun's people look toward us as enemy. I beg you to back down.

Like I said, I will not attack Dracun mainland, so there is no known reason for your defense to be at Dracun. Also, we are here just to defend all attacks The way you are heading is to my land, which I've already blocked with mines and heavy guarded troops.

We have WMDs, but we are not going to use it. You are attacking us because Dracun's people think we're responsible. You attacking us because you guys want to change my government.

I consider you guys, Warmongers.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
19-06-2004, 02:01
Macabees, you presence of this war is unusual. You are a wise country, but unfornately, you attack us for no known reason. Dracun's people look toward us as enemy. I beg you to back down.

Like I said, I will not attack Dracun mainland, so there is no known reason for your defense to be at Dracun. Also, we are here just to defend all attacks The way you are heading is to my land, which I've already blocked with mines and heavy guarded troops.

We have WMDs, but we are not going to use it. You are attacking us because Dracun's people think we're responsible. You attacking us because you guys want to change my government.

I consider you guys, Warmongers.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
19-06-2004, 02:01
Macabees, you presence of this war is unusual. You are a wise country, but unfornately, you attack us for no known reason. Dracun's people look toward us as enemy. I beg you to back down.

Like I said, I will not attack Dracun mainland, so there is no known reason for your defense to be at Dracun. Also, we are here just to defend all attacks The way you are heading is to my land, which I've already blocked with mines and heavy guarded troops.

We have WMDs, but we are not going to use it. You are attacking us because Dracun's people think we're responsible. You attacking us because you guys want to change my government.

I consider you guys, Warmongers.

Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 02:02
OOC: No I'm not attacking you..I'm heading over to my new military base... maps? Ok let me make some...
Whittier
19-06-2004, 02:06
Armed Knights,

From what I've read you two have already discussed doing this war rp.
You can't just go back and change your rp just because you want to avoid a war. You have diplomatize your way out not edit your way out.

IC: Whittier favors a diplomatic solution. As AK is a member of the Whittier Pact, we are required by the alliance charter to defend him if he is attacked.
While we are upset at the involvement of the Armed Knights govt. in the death of another nations leader, we believe that only people of Armed Knights has the right to fire their governments leaders. It is not for other nation's to decide who other nations can elect as their leaders.
While what AK did was wrong, what Dracon Imperium is threatening is just as wrong. You don't kill millions just to avenge the death of one. The punishment is clearly disproportionate. Two wrongs don't make a right.
As DI has stated they sending forces of AK, the following measures are now being taken.

1. Economic sanctions have been passed by the Polituburo banning all trade between Whittier and DI and DI's allies. We would like our allies to join these sanctions. And we would also like the assistance of the international community.
2. In addition to the 50,000 WHittier troops already in Armed Knights, we are deploying an additional 2 million, including reserves and national guard.
3. The 15th, 34th, and 31st air combat wings have been ordered deployed to Armed Knights to begin border patrols.
4. I am ordering the 1st and 3rd fleets away from Esam to the coast of Armed Knights to deny enemy fleets access to the AK coast.
5. The UPR formally requests a special meeting of all Whittier Pact nations to discuss this matter further and what action needs to be taken.
I will post the link to my military shortly.

6. If necessary, we will seek an arms embargo on DI and his allies.
Whittier
19-06-2004, 02:07
Armed Knights,

From what I've read you two have already discussed doing this war rp.
You can't just go back and change your rp just because you want to avoid a war. You have diplomatize your way out not edit your way out.

IC: Whittier favors a diplomatic solution. As AK is a member of the Whittier Pact, we are required by the alliance charter to defend him if he is attacked.
While we are upset at the involvement of the Armed Knights govt. in the death of another nations leader, we believe that only people of Armed Knights has the right to fire their governments leaders. It is not for other nation's to decide who other nations can elect as their leaders.
While what AK did was wrong, what Dracon Imperium is threatening is just as wrong. You don't kill millions just to avenge the death of one. The punishment is clearly disproportionate. Two wrongs don't make a right.
As DI has stated they sending forces of AK, the following measures are now being taken.

1. Economic sanctions have been passed by the Polituburo banning all trade between Whittier and DI and DI's allies. We would like our allies to join these sanctions. And we would also like the assistance of the international community.
2. In addition to the 50,000 WHittier troops already in Armed Knights, we are deploying an additional 2 million, including reserves and national guard.
3. The 15th, 34th, and 31st air combat wings have been ordered deployed to Armed Knights to begin border patrols.
4. I am ordering the 1st and 3rd fleets away from Esam to the coast of Armed Knights to deny enemy fleets access to the AK coast.
5. The UPR formally requests a special meeting of all Whittier Pact nations to discuss this matter further and what action needs to be taken.
I will post the link to my military shortly.

6. If necessary, we will seek an arms embargo on DI and his allies.
Whittier
19-06-2004, 02:09
Armed Knights,

From what I've read you two have already discussed doing this war rp.
You can't just go back and change your rp just because you want to avoid a war. You have diplomatize your way out not edit your way out.

IC: Whittier favors a diplomatic solution. As AK is a member of the Whittier Pact, we are required by the alliance charter to defend him if he is attacked.
While we are upset at the involvement of the Armed Knights govt. in the death of another nations leader, we believe that only people of Armed Knights has the right to fire their governments leaders. It is not for other nation's to decide who other nations can elect as their leaders.
While what AK did was wrong, what Dracon Imperium is threatening is just as wrong. You don't kill millions just to avenge the death of one. The punishment is clearly disproportionate. Two wrongs don't make a right.
As DI has stated they sending forces of AK, the following measures are now being taken.

1. Economic sanctions have been passed by the Polituburo banning all trade between Whittier and DI and DI's allies. We would like our allies to join these sanctions. And we would also like the assistance of the international community.
2. In addition to the 50,000 WHittier troops already in Armed Knights, we are deploying an additional 2 million, including reserves and national guard.
3. The 15th, 34th, and 31st air combat wings have been ordered deployed to Armed Knights to begin border patrols.
4. I am ordering the 1st and 3rd fleets away from Esam to the coast of Armed Knights to deny enemy fleets access to the AK coast.
5. The UPR formally requests a special meeting of all Whittier Pact nations to discuss this matter further and what action needs to be taken.
I will post the link to my military shortly.

6. If necessary, we will seek an arms embargo on DI and his allies.
19-06-2004, 02:09
The radar detects Dracun forces arriving to Armed Knights mainland.

Guard: Sir, We've tracked Dracun's forces. Their somehow on a island.

Rachel: Get ready for heavy fire.

Guard: Yes sir.. eh I mean Mad'am. *shouts to other troops* GET READY FOR HEAVY FIRE! *command ehcos through the hall.

Rachel: I have my true love on you guys. Please do good. FOR THE KNIGHTS!
19-06-2004, 02:09
The radar detects Dracun forces arriving to Armed Knights mainland.

Guard: Sir, We've tracked Dracun's forces. Their somehow on a island.

Rachel: Get ready for heavy fire.

Guard: Yes sir.. eh I mean Mad'am. *shouts to other troops* GET READY FOR HEAVY FIRE! *command ehcos through the hall.

Rachel: I have my true love on you guys. Please do good. FOR THE KNIGHTS!
Whittier
19-06-2004, 02:09
Armed Knights,

From what I've read you two have already discussed doing this war rp.
You can't just go back and change your rp just because you want to avoid a war. You have diplomatize your way out not edit your way out.

IC: Whittier favors a diplomatic solution. As AK is a member of the Whittier Pact, we are required by the alliance charter to defend him if he is attacked.
While we are upset at the involvement of the Armed Knights govt. in the death of another nations leader, we believe that only people of Armed Knights has the right to fire their governments leaders. It is not for other nation's to decide who other nations can elect as their leaders.
While what AK did was wrong, what Dracon Imperium is threatening is just as wrong. You don't kill millions just to avenge the death of one. The punishment is clearly disproportionate. Two wrongs don't make a right.
As DI has stated they sending forces of AK, the following measures are now being taken.

1. Economic sanctions have been passed by the Polituburo banning all trade between Whittier and DI and DI's allies. We would like our allies to join these sanctions. And we would also like the assistance of the international community.
2. In addition to the 50,000 WHittier troops already in Armed Knights, we are deploying an additional 2 million, including reserves and national guard.
3. The 15th, 34th, and 31st air combat wings have been ordered deployed to Armed Knights to begin border patrols.
4. I am ordering the 1st and 3rd fleets away from Esam to the coast of Armed Knights to deny enemy fleets access to the AK coast.
5. The UPR formally requests a special meeting of all Whittier Pact nations to discuss this matter further and what action needs to be taken.
I will post the link to my military shortly.

6. If necessary, we will seek an arms embargo on DI and his allies.
Whittier
19-06-2004, 02:12
Dang forums.
Will return later. And with that link I promised. Hopefully the server will be better by then. Then again, probably not.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 02:21
OOC: G-d, you have to hate these forums...and do those sanctions apply to me too? Because if so, I don't really give a damn - I've never have had any type of trade relation with any of the Whittier Pact nations. :P
West Scotland
19-06-2004, 02:37
OOC - In that case, Macabees...embargo couldn't hurt? ;)

In light of Dracun Imperium's dispatching of armed forces to our ally Armed Knights, West Scotland has decided to take drastic measures. We further appeal to DI to halt and reverse this action immediately and to resolve things diplomatically.

Understanding the sheer likeliness (not very) of the said situation ever occuring, West Scotland has ordered active all wings of CMP-240 cruise missile platform aircraft and all naval carrier groups capable of deploying cruise missiles to stand alert.

West Scotland troops are heading to Armed Knights, twenty thousand in all, temporarily to provide a short-term safeguard against an invasion. More troops will be deployed as time allows via the navy if this continues.

Any DI military action on Armed Knights and intention to further action will be considered a declaration of war and intent to expand the war on an ally of West Scotland, and so a threat to national security; we will respond with nothing less than the neutralization of your military infrastructure and resources.

All our forces used are hereby declared conventional.
19-06-2004, 02:44
As IDF's Naval blockade stands, the Armed Knights is tired of waiting for Dragun's attack. So we dispatched our naval coast guard along with 3 carriers, 8 destroyers, 6 crusiers, and 6 submarines (launches crusie missiles). They are send to the sea border line, awaiting Dracun's forces to come.
19-06-2004, 02:48
A news crew has sent a drone aircraft to DI's terroritory, to see what's the hold up.

Amusingly, we have gotten results that DI's troops are goofying off in their party to conquest with... GIRLS?!?!
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 03:18
:? i never sent any troops first of all..can you guys please read the recent post before posting...i never even attacked.this is getting realy sad armed knights i thought you were a decent rper now your going off saying i attacked you when i didnt.. plus dang forum my post never went through

IC:Whittier we understand your reaction but ask that you hold off your embargo on our allies...they did nothng but declare there support for the dracun imperium. You are allowed to however keep your embargo on us without retaliation...

IDF:Assuming you have forgotten your pact with me on joning the K.N.S. we will forgive your attempted defense on an attack that never happened.

OOC:This is getting ridiculous AK....your ship probaly would have been shot down....not to mention that was nothing but a waste of a post

IC: We have contacted a neutral nation that was recently formed and posted a while ago called Zalorian Militia. They said they have diplomats for situations like thes,they contacted me asking for a diplomatic soloution. So we agreed and hope all other nation agree to a meeting between our nations in Zalorian Militia.
19-06-2004, 05:23
:? i never sent any troops first of all..can you guys please read the recent post before posting...i never even attacked.this is getting realy sad armed knights i thought you were a decent rper now your going off saying i attacked you when i didnt.. plus dang forum my post never went through

IC:Whittier we understand your reaction but ask that you hold off your embargo on our allies...they did nothng but declare there support for the dracun imperium. You are allowed to however keep your embargo on us without retaliation...

IDF:Assuming you have forgotten your pact with me on joning the K.N.S. we will forgive your attempted defense on an attack that never happened.

OOC:This is getting ridiculous AK....your ship probaly would have been shot down....not to mention that was nothing but a waste of a post

IC: We have contacted a neutral nation that was recently formed and posted a while ago called Zalorian Militia. They said they have diplomats for situations like thes,they contacted me asking for a diplomatic soloution. So we agreed and hope all other nation agree to a meeting between our nations in Zalorian Militia.

Wait.. Wait.. I never said you attacked me. I said, We're waiting for you to attack. Plus my allies are here to help defend me against Macabees. My troops are waiting for you.

I thought you were a decent and paying attention RPer.
IDF
19-06-2004, 05:36
IDF troops in area
NAVY (pretty much the whole thing)
6 Yorktown CVN (with 90 F-35B JSF)
4 Nimitz CVN (with 75 F-35B JSF)
6 Charles de Gaulle CVN (with 40 F-35B JSF)
14 Arizona BBGN
11 Iowa (refit) BBG
10 Kirov CGN
29 Ticonderoga II CG
42 Arleigh Burke (flight III) DDG
27 Farragut DDG (stealthed)
31 Oliver Hazard Perry FFG
24 heavy logistic ships
7 Tarawa LHD

AIR FORCE: (most of it being sent)
234 F-22A
674 F-35A JSF
421 F-15E
354 F-15C
950 F-16C
224 F-14D
320 F/A-18E
144 F/A-18C
198 F-4G Phantom Wild Weasel II

132 B-52H Stratofortress
78 B-2A Spirit
93 B-1B Lancer

544 AH-1U Super Cobra
348 AH-64D Apache Longbow
234 RAH-66A Comanche
756 UH-60 Nighthawk
556 CH-53 Pave Low III
1,127 UH-1N Huey
476 CH-47 Chinook

122 C-5A Galaxy
96 C-17 Globemaster III
77 C-141 Starlifter
154 C-130 Hercules

Army coming soon
IDF
19-06-2004, 05:38
About my other pact, Whittier has gone to bat for me so I will help him. He has long been loyal to me and it is time I repayed him.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 05:42
OOC: Currently I'm not attacking anybody... I'm completely neutral..I've just promised DT the defense of his nation...I'm the only one allowed to conquer around here :P
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 05:45
OOC: In fact...

IC:

Because of IDFs stauch defense of Jewish sovereignity (OOC: I think?) the Macabees would be honored to offer a Non Agression Pact with the nation, to avoid bloodshed between nations that could be such great partners.

OOC: This can mainly be important when Pedaphiliac...G-d I hate that guy (no offense to anybody other than him)... goes anal on us we're going to need each other's help. He doesn't get the fact that I'm not Jewish...I'm Catholic..I just support Israel because my father is Jewish.
19-06-2004, 05:47
DI, we will not meet in dimplomats at your allied nation.

IC:

I dont feel safe for my diplomats, nor my safety.


Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
Whittier
19-06-2004, 06:33
:? i never sent any troops first of all..can you guys please read the recent post before posting...i never even attacked.this is getting realy sad armed knights i thought you were a decent rper now your going off saying i attacked you when i didnt.. plus dang forum my post never went through

IC:Whittier we understand your reaction but ask that you hold off your embargo on our allies...they did nothng but declare there support for the dracun imperium. You are allowed to however keep your embargo on us without retaliation...

IDF:Assuming you have forgotten your pact with me on joning the K.N.S. we will forgive your attempted defense on an attack that never happened.

OOC:This is getting ridiculous AK....your ship probaly would have been shot down....not to mention that was nothing but a waste of a post

IC: We have contacted a neutral nation that was recently formed and posted a while ago called Zalorian Militia. They said they have diplomats for situations like thes,they contacted me asking for a diplomatic soloution. So we agreed and hope all other nation agree to a meeting between our nations in Zalorian Militia.
There is a difference between economic sanctions and embargoe. Embargoes mean I send ships and planes to your nation to forcefully stop other nations from trading with you.
Sanctions mean that I don't trade with you but I don't do anything to stop other nations from trading with you
I have sanctions on you and your allies. Not an embargoe.
Whittier
19-06-2004, 06:35
DI, we will not meet in dimplomats at your allied nation.

IC:

I dont feel safe for my diplomats, nor my safety.


Armed Knights Republic
President Ms. Rachel Rain
http://www.bvcma.net/rachel/images/6.jpg
The UPR proposes diplomatic talks be held in a neutral nation.
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 13:57
The reason Zalorian Militia contacted me was simple he is neutral and i never been in contact before with him. He is not my ally as of now but might be after this war...If you don't feel safe in a neutral nation Armed Knights then where would you feel safe just so this ...promblem may end

ooc:The radar detects Dracun forces arriving to Armed Knights mainland.

Guard: Sir, We've tracked Dracun's forces. Their somehow on a island. Yes you said i was on an island and i was invading you tell me where did you draw this conclusion from

and thanks Whittier for clearing that up
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 19:08
bump
Dracun imperium
19-06-2004, 19:08
bump
19-06-2004, 21:58
OOC: In fact...

IC:

Because of IDFs stauch defense of Jewish sovereignity (OOC: I think?) the Macabees would be honored to offer a Non Agression Pact with the nation, to avoid bloodshed between nations that could be such great partners.

OOC: This can mainly be important when Pedaphiliac...G-d I hate that guy (no offense to anybody other than him)... goes anal on us we're going to need each other's help. He doesn't get the fact that I'm not Jewish...I'm Catholic..I just support Israel because my father is Jewish.

IDF's on my side, idiot.
19-06-2004, 22:00
ooc:The radar detects Dracun forces arriving to Armed Knights mainland.

Guard: Sir, We've tracked Dracun's forces. Their somehow on a island. Yes you said i was on an island and i was invading you tell me where did you draw this conclusion from

and thanks Whittier for clearing that up

Ahem. Again, where did I say your invading me? I said you arriving to Armed Knights mainland, but it appeared that you were on a island.
The Macabees
19-06-2004, 22:12
OOC: In fact...

IC:

Because of IDFs stauch defense of Jewish sovereignity (OOC: I think?) the Macabees would be honored to offer a Non Agression Pact with the nation, to avoid bloodshed between nations that could be such great partners.

OOC: This can mainly be important when Pedaphiliac...G-d I hate that guy (no offense to anybody other than him)... goes anal on us we're going to need each other's help. He doesn't get the fact that I'm not Jewish...I'm Catholic..I just support Israel because my father is Jewish.

IDF's on my side, idiot.

OOC: No kidding..but remember I'm neutral..not your enemy.
West Scotland
19-06-2004, 23:23
132 B-52H Stratofortress
78 B-2A Spirit
93 B-1B Lancer


IDF, I find this to be an exceedingly large number. All of your forces. I can simply waltz into your nation if all those forces are 'in the area.'

Seriously, there's a logistical limit on how many forces you can just have in the area. That's a huge number...
Pedaphiliac
19-06-2004, 23:31
ooc:can you provide the list of allies so we know your not lying(not accusing you or anything just want to make sure) But 2 million is still way to high....should we create an ooc thread for this?

West Scotland
Hawaiian Islands - Bankrupted
The Zoogie People
Chinese Airforce - Bankrupted

No...just West Scotland. (TZP is my puppet and has ridiculously low amounts of nuclear weapons and a shameful nuclear program right now)

We have NO nuclear program. Just a humongous anti missle set up.
Dracun imperium
20-06-2004, 02:07
ooc:I give up! this is such a waste of time.. i though this would turn into a great rp but it became a bickering fest(me included) and misinterpations...so can we just say we have agreed to a cease fire..?

The Dracun asks that Armed Knights agree to a Ceasefire and stop hostilities
20-06-2004, 02:43
ooc:I give up! this is such a waste of time.. i though this would turn into a great rp but it became a bickering fest(me included) and misinterpations...so can we just say we have agreed to a cease fire..?

The Dracun asks that Armed Knights agree to a Ceasefire and stop hostilities

We will not stop being hostile to you. You have been added as an enemy to Armed Knights Republic and our allies. Beware, if you are vunlerable, we will invade you for declaring war on us. We are now refusing the ceasefire.

One crusie missile has been launch to DI, and now shall we have some action?
Socialist Cockroaches
20-06-2004, 02:43
Just don't declare war on my bellybutton! :wink:
The Macabees
20-06-2004, 06:04
The recently installed Praetorian defense system around the new Spanish Military base had caught off RADAR a single incoming cruise missile at high speed. Without further ado two Praetorian IIIBs (S-400 medium missile equivelent) attempted to intercept the missile.

Again Macabee authorities wanted to stress that they would not allow an attack on DI soil.
IDF
20-06-2004, 06:14
I'm not opposed to non-aggression with the Maccabees. I can't attack a fellow Jew.
Whittier
20-06-2004, 06:22
ooc:I give up! this is such a waste of time.. i though this would turn into a great rp but it became a bickering fest(me included) and misinterpations...so can we just say we have agreed to a cease fire..?

The Dracun asks that Armed Knights agree to a Ceasefire and stop hostilities

We will not stop being hostile to you. You have been added as an enemy to Armed Knights Republic and our allies. Beware, if you are vunlerable, we will invade you for declaring war on us. We are now refusing the ceasefire.

One crusie missile has been launch to DI, and now shall we have some action?
OOC: I know someone already responded to this in character but I want to point out two things.
A cruise missile is not an ICBM and does not have the global reach of an ICBM.
Cruise missiles are launched from ships right off the target nations coast. If the TN has no coast, they are fired over neighboring nations with coasts that are also allied against the TN.
AK has never rpd sending ships to the coast of DI. Hence, you guys can continue this rp but I am going to ignore this.
Whittier
20-06-2004, 06:23
BTW, I advise AK to accept the ceasefire.
If IDF allies with Maccabees on this one, I will support him cause he is in the Whittier Pact.
The Macabees
20-06-2004, 06:43
OOC: For all those who saw my " I slaughter many commies" thread please be aware that I was bored and was merely down to have a little fun..I'm not a bloodthirsty Nazi freak... heh. A little Macabees returns to the world theater ceremony..nothing big... only 800,000 dead genocide :P
IDF
20-06-2004, 06:43
BTW, I advise AK to accept the ceasefire.
If IDF allies with Maccabees on this one, I will support him cause he is in the Whittier Pact.

We don't need a war, I want a ceasefire here because a war will be pointless to both sides. The last thing we need is a noob war so lets do this diplomatically
Dracun imperium
20-06-2004, 13:21
For even trying that...it was the last straw i officaly ignore you armed knighs may you one day learn how to rp better