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Automagfreek: The victim....?

Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 14:23
Fellow nations, lend me your ears. Having been hoisted aloft by my shirt by Lord Dreadfire and told to "do my job", I come here today as AMF Foreign Relations Minister to issue you all a statement and take questions.

Currently there is alot of controversy over recent AMF actions, and I am here today to offer you all an explanation. Here is a spreadsheet of recent AMF military campaigns.

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Kahanistan

Automagfreek came to the aid of The Kraven Corporation, who was attacked for their internal policies/experiments. After attempting to resolve the conflict through diplomatic channels, Kahanistan and the other AKA nations refused and continued their offensive on TKC. Automagfreek assisted in protecting a sovereign nation from illegal invasion, and AMF forces were immediately gassed as they were coming onto the Kahanistani beaches. Terror attacks, VX booby traps, and military units hiding in civilian sectors have all come without instigation on AMF behalf.

STATUS: At War

Operation: Hellfire

An AMF fleet was fired upon for accidently coming too close to an uncharted Hogsweatian island. The resulting melee saw 6 nations simultaniously attempt to invade Automagfreek. And for what? Coming too close to an uncharted island?

STATUS: Invasion Repelled

Austo Hugary:

Declared war on Automagfreek for pulling support for the now defunct Fascist White States.

STATUS: Destroyed

Fascist White States:

Heavily abused Automagfreek protection and financial support. Used AMF's name as a shield in order to trounce nearby nations.

STATUS: Destroyed

Cam III:

Made certain comments that were looked upon as threatening to AMF security. Wether their words were taken out of context or not is under investigation.

STATUS: Resolved

The Island of Rose:

AMF is defending TIOR after several unjustified attacks.

STATUS: Resolved

The Trojan Empire:

Assaulting/about to assault AMF controlled Greece simply to control it for themselves.

STATUS: Resolved

Armed Knights:

Forming an Anti-AMF alliance following AMF reccomendation to have them removed from our region.

STATUS: Resolved

Dr_Twist:

A rogue general from Dr_Twist launched VX tipped shells into AMF controlled Greece for 3 hours, killing over 400,000 civilians.

STATUS: Resolved

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As you can see, AMF has done little instigation in these matters. We have been the victim in most of these cases, and at this point were are very intolerant of threats to our security and our allies security. We appreciate the support of our allies who know what we are going through, and The Destroyer urges our enemies to take a step back and place themselves in our shoes. Let it be known that Automagfreek is not a mindless war machine, but instead we are a just nation with only the best intentions.

I will now take questions and comments.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Momanguise
17-06-2004, 14:30
What is Automagfreek's official position on the current war in the balkans? Is the country considerdering (sic) supporting either side?

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Imperial Brits
17-06-2004, 14:31
OOC: I dont think wether or not your actions are just is the question here. I think its because your retaliation is so severe, if you were only to destroy half of a nations population many would find it acceptable but the elimination of an entire nation does strike fear into others.

Maybe AMF could perhaps instead of taking out millions of innocents, instigate regieme changes instead.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 14:41
The war in the Balkans? We do not have an official stance yet.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

OOC: I dont think wether or not your actions are just is the question here. I think its because your retaliation is so severe, if you were only to destroy half of a nations population many would find it acceptable but the elimination of an entire nation does strike fear into others.

Maybe AMF could perhaps instead of taking out millions of innocents, instigate regieme changes instead.

OOC: From my experience with doing that, it dosen't work.
The Horned Rat
17-06-2004, 14:45
If you don't completley eradicate them you have to spend so many recources/man power to keep it from fighting you later from the resentment of their defeat....
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 14:47
If you don't completley eradicate them you have to spend so many recources/man power to keep it from fighting you later from the resentment of their defeat....

OOC: Exactly, that happens every single time.
Imperial Brits
17-06-2004, 14:47
OOC: sadly i thought thats what your response would be, but let us be assured you are not a victim. Many nations regard you as the bully of NS and it is human instinct to stand up to the oppressors. If you do not want to end your aggressive ways i sugest you increase them so people will know where they stand with AMF.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 14:50
OOC: sadly i thought thats what your response would be, but let us be assured you are not a victim. Many nations regard you as the bully of NS and it is human instinct to stand up to the oppressors. If you do not want to end your aggressive ways i sugest you increase them so people will know where they stand with AMF.

OOC: Exactly, I don't plan on "selling out" like Credonia did.

No offense to Credonia though, I needed an example.
Crookfur
17-06-2004, 14:50
OOC: yeah only killing half the population means that you end up with annoying garrison work (which can be good RP, but can be a bit trying for all involved essepcailly with nations who don't actually have a clue about how people act and thus have super human civilian populations).

Of coruse the cuddly Crookfur way is to simply wipe out any national command structure, the army and all amenities leaving the resultant retchs to beg us to take over... (if i actually ever got into a serious invasion war...).

AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.
DontPissUsOff
17-06-2004, 14:56
Meh, you don't seem to loose the wrath unless justly provoked. So we're overall in a position what can be summed up as "fleh."
Momanguise
17-06-2004, 15:02
The think the Chinese phrase 'The biggest trees attract the wind' is most fitting.
DontPissUsOff
17-06-2004, 15:04
He who sticks his head above the wall is liable to lose it, etc
Independent Hitmen
17-06-2004, 15:05
OOC: AMF, the war in the balkans is communism v capitalism so i dont think it really concerns you, although if the communists do manage to win then greece maybe under threat from Russian Forces.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 15:19
OOC: AMF, the war in the balkans is communism v capitalism so i dont think it really concerns you, although if the communists do manage to win then greece maybe under threat from Russian Forces.

OOC: I doubt it, because Dr_Twist has my back should Greece come under attack. And Dr_Twist is the head of the RBA, an organization that RF is in (I think he's still in it....).

As usual, if it does not directly effect me I won't get involved.
Momanguise
17-06-2004, 15:23
ooc:

OOC: I doubt it, because Dr_Twist has my back should Greece come under attack. And Dr_Twist is the head of the RBA, an organization that RF is in (I think he's still in it....).

As usual, if it does not directly effect me I won't get involved.

I can assure you that Greece will not be touched. We are not trying to widen this war.
Independent Hitmen
17-06-2004, 15:23
OOC: AMF, the war in the balkans is communism v capitalism so i dont think it really concerns you, although if the communists do manage to win then greece maybe under threat from Russian Forces.

OOC: I doubt it, because Dr_Twist has my back should Greece come under attack. And Dr_Twist is the head of the RBA, an organization that RF is in (I think he's still in it....).

As usual, if it does not directly effect me I won't get involved.

Russian Forces is invading DR_twist after the people revolted against the communist government. The communist government and its supporters are holed up in Bulgaria.

Democratic forces have landed in austria hungary coatia bosnia and albania. RF has taken Moldova and Romania and is heading West and South.
Imperial Brits
17-06-2004, 15:23
OOC: Any news on a possible rp between you and Melkor AMF?
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 15:25
Russian Forces is invading DR_twist after the people revolted against the communist government. The communist government and its supporters are holed up in Bulgaria.

Democratic forces have landed in austria hungary coatia bosnia and albania. RF has taken Moldova and Romania and is heading West and South.

OOC: I think he knows better than to provoke me though. We'll see how things unfold.
Momanguise
17-06-2004, 15:25
Russian Forces is invading DR_twist after the people revolted against the communist government. The communist government and its supporters are holed up in Bulgaria.

Democratic forces have landed in austria hungary coatia bosnia and albania. RF has taken Moldova and Romania and is heading West and South.

I dislike the impression given here that this war is 'Communism v. Democracy'. That is not true. Momanguise is both Democratic and Communist.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 15:26
OOC: Any news on a possible rp between you and Melkor AMF?

OOC: Good question!

Melkor and I are working on something, but he dosen't have alot of time at the moment.
Momanguise
17-06-2004, 15:27
Russian Forces is invading DR_twist after the people revolted against the communist government. The communist government and its supporters are holed up in Bulgaria.

Democratic forces have landed in austria hungary coatia bosnia and albania. RF has taken Moldova and Romania and is heading West and South.

OOC: I think he knows better than to provoke me though. We'll see how things unfold.

ooc: The Communist Alliance has no intention of harming Automagfreeks intrests. You have my word.
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 15:30
AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.

[OOC: That also works into my theory of why AMF is always the uberpower that gets attacked: If a country aspiring to be a world power could hold its own against AMF or even *gasp* beat AMF in a war, in its mind, it would become a world power. That's right in line with my mention of Ric Flair's saying, "to be the man, you've gotta beat the man."

Something along those lines happened when the U.S. withstood Great Britain in the War of 1812. People around the world took notice when the weak little country was able to hold off the world superpower Great Britain was at the time.]
Imperial Brits
17-06-2004, 15:33
OOC: Any news on a possible rp between you and Melkor AMF?

OOC: Good question!

Melkor and I are working on something, but he dosen't have alot of time at the moment.

OOC: I hope its soon as iam really looking forward to it. Its been far to long since Melkor has had an equal match for him and vice versa for you AMF.
Magdha
17-06-2004, 15:48
We are willing to provide AMF with support if you ask, although we know that you are more then capable of handling the situation yourself.

What is your position on the conflict in Daylam?
Corneliu
17-06-2004, 15:50
AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.

[OOC: That also works into my theory of why AMF is always the uberpower that gets attacked: If a country aspiring to be a world power could hold its own against AMF or even *gasp* beat AMF in a war, in its mind, it would become a world power. That's right in line with my mention of Ric Flair's saying, "to be the man, you've gotta beat the man."

Something along those lines happened when the U.S. withstood Great Britain in the War of 1812. People around the world took notice when the weak little country was able to hold off the world superpower Great Britain was at the time.]

Not to mention the war for Independence. Yes the US had help from other nations, most notably the French which helped secure the Victory at Yorktown and our independence, but it was primaryily an American/British fight. 1812 showed the world that we can hold our own against a superpower. It showed that if you have the balls and guts to do it, any nation could do it, IF he has the RESOURCES to do so which we did.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 15:55
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 15:57
What is your position on the conflict in Daylam?

Neutral.


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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Dr_Twist
17-06-2004, 16:02
OCC: TO let people know, AMF has been informed of the Situation, he was informed rather Early on, he Knows what’s going on, and He knows to well that Greece would never be touched, I have always been a Protector of AMF's claim's to Greece and i always will be No matter what Type of Government is Installed, RF also knows to Well that going After Greece would be a bad move in the Present time. I know how RF works and he wont be interested in Greece with his Present Problems.
Thunderstraat
17-06-2004, 16:08
Its been far to long since Melkor has had an equal match for him and vice versa for you AMF.

OOC: I've been hoping to find a way to put my Roseway Orcs against Melkor... WarCraft Orcs with Tauren and Kodos versus Tolkein Orcs with trolls and oliphaunts...
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 16:09
Not to mention the war for Independence. Yes the US had help from other nations, most notably the French which helped secure the Victory at Yorktown and our independence, but it was primarily an American/British fight. 1812 showed the world that we can hold our own against a superpower. It showed that if you have the balls and guts to do it, any nation could do it, IF he has the RESOURCES to do so which we did.

[OOC: I didn't mention the Revolutionary War because the U.S. needed France and the other countries to step in. They weren't going to win a war by themselves.

Not to say they didn't have the indirect help of Great Britain already fighting against Napoleon in the War of 1812, but the U.S. was able to withstand Great Britain even after Napoleon fell.]
The Trojan Empire
17-06-2004, 21:19
<OOC:AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.

We targeted AMF because he is a good roleplayer... and ICly Troy hates Greece with a passion>
Hogsweat
17-06-2004, 21:25
Odd how the nations that could not possibly fight AMF volunteer for suicide? I mean, I dont thnk I would last a good deal longer than them, but id put up a damn good fight.
OOC// Maybe you would want to help Endless Crimes invade me? Its sem scripted so I win, but maybe not on your side.
Chellis
17-06-2004, 21:29
Chellis would never stand for a russian forces invasion of greece, nor an AMF push into Russian Forces territory. Both being our allies, we would feel compelled to help the defender.
Dracun imperium
17-06-2004, 21:32
Dracun imperium
17-06-2004, 21:34
The Dracun's support AMF in any war...as long as it is justified. Although we never gotten involved in a AMF war we hope to soon if he ever will ned our help..or anyone elses for that matter

occ:If you two go to war(Melkor AMf) that would be, im sure if you guys allowed, a world war to end all world wars
Dracun imperium
17-06-2004, 21:35
The Dracun's support AMF in any war...as long as it is justified. Although we never gotten involved in a AMF war we hope to soon if he ever will ned our help..or anyone elses for that matter

occ:If you two go to war(Melkor AMf) that would be, im sure if you guys allowed, a world war to end all world wars
The Island of Rose
17-06-2004, 22:33
Official Statement from the Island of Rose:
"We thank Lord Damien for his sudden show of hospitality. Parliament is still debating WHY the sudden show of hospitality, but we just tell them to shut up. Anyway, the attacks against you are unfair and the only time a nation should attack is when provoked. And now for our current stance, neutrally supportive. Thank you."
-Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs: Roska Einvach
The Trojan Empire
18-06-2004, 02:35
Odd how the nations that could not possibly fight AMF volunteer for suicide? I mean, I dont thnk I would last a good deal longer than them, but id put up a damn good fight.
OOC// Maybe you would want to help Endless Crimes invade me? Its sem scripted so I win, but maybe not on your side.

OOC: I can take AMF, I have a large enough army.
The Horned Rat
18-06-2004, 02:41
That brings up a question i have, Why does everybody refering to him seem to imply he can't be beaten? Is it allies, some superior IC reason, does AMF only get attacked by younger nations? What is it, I must know.
Jordaxia
18-06-2004, 02:44
He can write the arse off most people here, and that's 9/10 of the battle. At least, that's what I think.
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 02:45
Our stance is that AMF is a great power, and a great friend to the whole world. Through programs like the old Skynet and organizations like the War Mongering N00b Killers (WMNK), the Federal Republic of Bonstock feels that the world is much safer with AMF.
DontPissUsOff
18-06-2004, 02:48
THR: He writes very well, puts in a lot of effort, has very distinctive characterisation and makes thus good posts; he also has a very large population, very potent military, very good economy.
Whittier
18-06-2004, 05:44
This is what happens when you resort to unilateralism. Everyone sees you as the enemy.
The UPR will continue its course of multilateralism and consensus seeking.
18-06-2004, 05:58
Bonstock is a great ally with the Original Tech-Annihater.
Whittier
18-06-2004, 06:00
If you don't completley eradicate them you have to spend so many recources/man power to keep it from fighting you later from the resentment of their defeat....
That's why you should adopt something like the Brezhnekov Plan, (which was in turn was the NS version of the Marshall Plan.) You help them rebuild and defend them from future attacks, they won't attack you (most of the time).
Whittier
18-06-2004, 06:05
Chellis would never stand for a russian forces invasion of greece, nor an AMF push into Russian Forces territory. Both being our allies, we would feel compelled to help the defender.
RF is a long time ally of Whittier (going back to Jan or Feb of 2003). That alliance is older than AMF has been around. IF AMF attacks Russian Forces, Whittier will declare war on AMF.
18-06-2004, 06:08
Chellis would never stand for a russian forces invasion of greece, nor an AMF push into Russian Forces territory. Both being our allies, we would feel compelled to help the defender.
RF is a long time ally of Whittier (going back to Jan or Feb of 2003). That alliance is older than AMF has been around. IF AMF attacks Russian Forces, Whittier will declare war on AMF.

And Armed Knights will stay netural as possible.
Whittier
18-06-2004, 06:12
Chellis would never stand for a russian forces invasion of greece, nor an AMF push into Russian Forces territory. Both being our allies, we would feel compelled to help the defender.
RF is a long time ally of Whittier (going back to Jan or Feb of 2003). That alliance is older than AMF has been around. IF AMF attacks Russian Forces, Whittier will declare war on AMF.

And Armed Knights will stay netural as possible.
Not if the Whittier Pact charter is invoked. (article 5 of the charter to be exact). Article 5 says that if one member is attacked, all members must defend him. Basically Article states "An attack on one, is an attack on all."
And remember you have to have permission from the other alliance members to leave the alliance otherwise we could legally send troops to your nation to force you to stay in. That's in the charter too.
Western Asia
18-06-2004, 06:15
AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.

[OOC: That also works into my theory of why AMF is always the uberpower that gets attacked: If a country aspiring to be a world power could hold its own against AMF or even *gasp* beat AMF in a war, in its mind, it would become a world power. That's right in line with my mention of Ric Flair's saying, "to be the man, you've gotta beat the man."

Something along those lines happened when the U.S. withstood Great Britain in the War of 1812. People around the world took notice when the weak little country was able to hold off the world superpower Great Britain was at the time.]

Not to mention the war for Independence. Yes the US had help from other nations, most notably the French which helped secure the Victory at Yorktown and our independence, but it was primaryily an American/British fight. 1812 showed the world that we can hold our own against a superpower. It showed that if you have the balls and guts to do it, any nation could do it, IF he has the RESOURCES to do so which we did.
OOC:
Perhaps a better example would be the Russo-Japanese war...where a major European power was (for the first time in modern history) defeated by an emergent Asian power. It was Japan's rapid modernization and advance from isolated feudalism to a modern (for the time) technologically-proficient society whose Generals were able to develop novel tactics to reap victory from Russia, the major favorite.
Chellis
18-06-2004, 06:35
Chellis would never stand for a russian forces invasion of greece, nor an AMF push into Russian Forces territory. Both being our allies, we would feel compelled to help the defender.
RF is a long time ally of Whittier (going back to Jan or Feb of 2003). That alliance is older than AMF has been around. IF AMF attacks Russian Forces, Whittier will declare war on AMF.

And chellis, being a long time ally of Russian Forces, would as well, if AMF attacked Russian forces. We don't see the point in referencing our post to yours.
Vrak
18-06-2004, 06:41
AMF isn't a target because of his Rp but because he is a big visible target whose Rp style appears to be slightly noobish until you actually read it properly so soem seem to thing he is RPing at thier level when is actually miles above it.

[OOC: That also works into my theory of why AMF is always the uberpower that gets attacked: If a country aspiring to be a world power could hold its own against AMF or even *gasp* beat AMF in a war, in its mind, it would become a world power. That's right in line with my mention of Ric Flair's saying, "to be the man, you've gotta beat the man."

Something along those lines happened when the U.S. withstood Great Britain in the War of 1812. People around the world took notice when the weak little country was able to hold off the world superpower Great Britain was at the time.]

Not to mention the war for Independence. Yes the US had help from other nations, most notably the French which helped secure the Victory at Yorktown and our independence, but it was primaryily an American/British fight. 1812 showed the world that we can hold our own against a superpower. It showed that if you have the balls and guts to do it, any nation could do it, IF he has the RESOURCES to do so which we did.
OOC:
Perhaps a better example would be the Russo-Japanese war...where a major European power was (for the first time in modern history) defeated by an emergent Asian power. It was Japan's rapid modernization and advance from isolated feudalism to a modern (for the time) technologically-proficient society whose Generals were able to develop novel tactics to reap victory from Russia, the major favorite.

OOC: Well, considering that the Russian fleet had to send their ships clear around the world (IIRC the British did not allow them to go through the Suez canal) kinda helped the Japanese.
The Island of Rose
18-06-2004, 06:48
OOC: Can we keep this in topic? There seems to be an attempted hijack o.O
Scandavian States
18-06-2004, 07:36
Lorkhan
18-06-2004, 08:39
OOC: I really don't think there is anything wrong with AMF. I love his use of characters, I love his roleplay style, and he seems to know what he's doing. I think the thing that got him bad rep was his eradication of every man, woman, and child of Austo-Hungry.
Penpusher Confederacy
18-06-2004, 08:42
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Automagfreek
18-06-2004, 13:56
OOC: I can take AMF, I have a large enough army.

OOC: We'll see about that. :twisted:

BTW, what about the thread made several months ago about Tersanctus, Pantera, and myself invading you?
Adejaani
18-06-2004, 14:02
I don't know who sings it, but... My thoughts regarding AMF.

"I'm just a soul whose intentions are goo-ood! Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood!" :lol:
Shinoxia
18-06-2004, 15:53
Shinoxia
18-06-2004, 15:54
I have to say that I resent some of AMF's dominance, but even I have to admit that he has much power.

I don't think we will become allies, but I may try a neutral stance.

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia

OOC:

Whittier mentioned alliances where "if one nation was attacked, all were attacked," is one of their policies.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but I'm tired of trying to attack/fight a nation without all of his allies stepping in....
Bonstock
18-06-2004, 16:39
Bonstock is a great ally with the Original Tech-Annihater.

Well, there was a secret intention behind that alliance... I was only friends with him so I could get my grubby imperialist hands on China, which he controlled at the time.

When Tech-Annihater was deleted, I claimed China for myself, though AMF invaded it and I withdrew to Taiwan. From then on, there was a standoff. AMF claimed Taiwan as his, but I kept persistant that it would not fall to AMF. There were no open hostilities, he simply tried to scare me out of fighting and when I held firm he got bored and left. Probably my finest hour as a nation, and because of it I still own a naval base/puppet state in Taiwan, called Maropian Coast.

Later on, AMF claimed to stop being imperialist, and started using diplomacy more. I reinstated diplomatic relations, and ever since the Federal Republic has been on good terms with AMF.
Notquiteaplace
18-06-2004, 16:50
AMF gives nations a chance to back down (though i think trojan was talking hypothetically) but is heavy handed where necessary. AMF never starts wars for no reason and never does anything provocative (well not while ive been around) so by the terms of the alliances i forge (loosish ones) hed (presuming AMF is a he? I dont know... no offence intended) have my backing in every war he has been part of, even though it would be unessesary.

As for the alliance thing, any allinaces i make are more good relations, ie we dont jump in blindly to war, I f i hypothetically had such a pact with Austo Hungary i would refuse to help them on the grounds the war is not necessary and is them being tetchy, and no AMF's fault, so its their problem, oh and also there is the get out clause that if i would be no help and would also be annihilated i could jump out.

Seems a bit pointless, but by stating this and occasionally helping out I hopefully would have the aid of my allies when i need it. THough admittantly the only thing ive had to do so far was an evac mission in the first FWS war.
Automagfreek
22-06-2004, 06:13
First page updated

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Dr_Twist:

A rogue general from Dr_Twist launched VX tipped shells into AMF controlled Greece for 3 hours, killing over 400,000 civilians.

STATUS: Resolved
The Zoogie People
17-07-2004, 02:31
With the involvement of Aust, Isselmere, Granzi, Sarzonia, Austar Union, and others, this is hardly worth Automagfreek's time and resources - but what is AMF's position on the situation regarding Cam III in Sarzonia? (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339661&page=1&pp=15)
Automagfreek
17-07-2004, 02:44
With the involvement of Aust, Isselmere, Granzi, Sarzonia, Austar Union, and others, this is hardly worth Automagfreek's time and resources - but what is AMF's position on the situation regarding Cam III in Sarzonia? (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339661&page=1&pp=15)


ICly:

We're deeply disappointed in Cam III, and we hope justice is done.

OOCly: It's not my fight.
Grenval
17-07-2004, 03:54
I have noticed that AMF does not get involved in wars that do not affect him, although I think you should protect the weak, etc. You usually have legitimate reasons, it just that everything you do appears to be godmodding because you are just so powerful. Oh and was not Armed Knights deleted for stalking you?
The Island of Rose
17-07-2004, 03:56
I have noticed that AMF does not get involved in wars that do not affect him, although I think you should protect the weak, etc. You usually have legitimate reasons, it just that everything you do appears to be godmodding because you are just so powerful. Oh and was not Armed Knights deleted for stalking you?

OOC: He doesn't protect the weak he protects his allies. Man you're crazy if you think AMF is a humanitarian country.
Grenval
17-07-2004, 04:02
OOC: He doesn't protect the weak he protects his allies. Man you're crazy if you think AMF is a humanitarian country.

No,no,no. You misread me. I agree with you completely. I meant that he does everything right, although he should also protect the weak, etc. He needs to add that to his list of what is right and wrong.
The Island of Rose
17-07-2004, 04:05
OOC: The day he does that, is the day I become a dictatorship...
Grenval
17-07-2004, 04:08
OOC: The day he does that, is the day I become a dictatorship...

Amen.

:)
Celdrone
17-07-2004, 04:52
OOC: I know that this is completly off subject, but how did you find a thread from before the move?
Automagfreek
17-07-2004, 07:47
OOC: I know that this is completly off subject, but how did you find a thread from before the move?


OOC: I dug through I.I until I found it. (About 18 pages) All the old threads are still here.
Aequatio
17-07-2004, 11:38
Having such a long history as allies, an Aequatian would help an Automagfreek national at the drop of a hat. It seems that the small investment of a 5,000-strong Marine garrison so long ago to quell his internal troubles has paid off into creating the global powerhouse that we all know and love today!

Cheers AMF, here's to a bright future.

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President Nicklas Schaeffer
The Horned Rat
18-07-2004, 03:40
OOC: I dug through I.I until I found it. (About 18 pages) All the old threads are still here.
Where are they? Could you post a link?

EDIT:Never mind, I used the search in a different way and found them.....
Communist Mississippi
18-07-2004, 03:42
For AMF being the victim he sure never suffers any permanent damage. How convenient for him eh?
Automagfreek
18-07-2004, 03:50
For AMF being the victim he sure never suffers any permanent damage. How convenient for him eh?


That's because my responses are so quick and absolute that, yes, I don't take catastrophic losses. Allanea just attacked my homeland out of the blue, so you can't accuse me of being invincible.
IDF
03-08-2004, 00:57
I have a question for you AMF, can I call your Minister Hartman "Gunny" if I want? Or will he just take a gun and shoot my head like he does watermelons?
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 01:10
That's fine. Minister Hartman was once a Gunnery Sgt. in the AMF military, so it's all good.
Automagfreek
28-11-2005, 21:39
OOC: Since there seems to be a trend in bumping old threads of mine, I suppose I'll bump this. The first post has been updated.
Velkya
28-11-2005, 22:16
What's the AMF postition on the Hatarian-Questerian war?
Automagfreek
28-11-2005, 22:21
What's the AMF postition on the Hatarian-Questerian war?

Automagfreek does not have a stance on the Hatarian-Questerian war, because it does not concern us or our interests. AMF High Command has not even paid attention to the events in said conflict, because we do not plan on getting involved in any matter that doesn't affect us.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Fourhearts
29-11-2005, 00:29
OCC: I havn't been in II for very long so I'm missing a complete and total backstory, but based on what I understand of human nature I see Automagfreek as a victim of his own success rather than a victim of others.

People like war RPs. It's why there's so many of them. What's a really good way to get a good war RP going? Declare war on AMG. This seems like a somewhat fool hardy thing to do, but it would expalin why the younger nations do this more often than old nations. Particulary if it's a band of younger nations to kind of balance out the power difference.

Part of me would love to do a war rp, but comparitvly my nation is tiny. That's why I've been able to do relief missions, and diplomatic statements, but can't really justify going to war. It'd be just plain stupid. I would like to host peace talks, and started to make that guesture, but I'll need to make a stronger one.
Kattor
29-11-2005, 00:33
From the Desk of Supreme Chancellor Evan Ryoushi,

To All Representiives of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek,

The nation of Kattor, while still condemning the slaughter of civilans in Kahanistan, but is now question if this is even true, apologizes for coming off as beleiving you are a warmongering country. This judgement was rash and came before we truly knew your story and we apologize. We have revoked the Trade Blacklisting and wish to become allies with your great nation. We have taken notice you have no Air Force, where-as the nation of Kattor has devolped a stealth aircraft that can be produced as a attack craft or air superiority fighter. We beleive this will greatly help your military, our economy, and both of begin an alliance between our two nations. May happiness shiene on you and yours.

-Signed Supreme Chancellor Evan Ryoushi of the The Democratic Republic of Kattor-
The Candrian Empire
29-11-2005, 00:58
OOC: Could you rehost them images of the Sentinels? I've never seen them, and I want a good base for intimidating soldiers for when my despotic pyscopathic emperor takes power - which is a loooonnnng while from now. Also, I've always been curious.
Automagfreek
29-11-2005, 01:31
OOC: Could you rehost them images of the Sentinels? I've never seen them, and I want a good base for intimidating soldiers for when my despotic pyscopathic emperor takes power - which is a loooonnnng while from now. Also, I've always been curious.

OOC: They work fine for me, nobody else has said anything about them not working....
The Candrian Empire
29-11-2005, 02:08
OCC - I see them now. Just some killzone helgasht (sp?) pics. I guess not knowing is better; I imagined them more fierce looking. :S
Schultaria Prime
29-11-2005, 02:51
Minister Hartman,

"Given our somewhat subdued, but nonetheless open, internal dialogues with your nation and the remaining participants of the New Alliance Treaty Organization, we in the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime would love to understand the political motivations behind your country's actions in the Nation of Kahanistan. In light of recent events concerning your government's official stance of "lend-lease" support for The Kraven Corporation and subsequent actions against those in the Anti-Kraven Alliance, we would like to understand your foreign policy concerns with a more educated and discerning eye. Any and all information you may be willing to divulge to the Schultarian State will help us to gauge the permanence of our actions within the New Alliance Treaty Organization and may withhold a disastrously ruinous series of circumstances from coming to fruition.

To better help us understand your motivations, we would be most appreciative in hearing the answers to the following two questions:

1. What is the official definition of sovereignty utilized by the Nation of Automagfreek in deference to matters concerning military action?

-Schultaria Prime views national sovereignty as legitimate only if a significant majority of its constituent citizens have the ability to frequently participate within the regular affairs of government through channels not dominated by the imposition or threat of physical force. While we in Schultaria Prime possess little direct intelligence the political impositions of either Kahanistan or The Kraven Corporation (in our current intelligence files we would consider both entities to be non-sovereign, criminal, states), we are interested to view your ideas of independent governance and why the Freekian government would grant material support to one side over the other.

2. What is Automagfreek's public consideration of stateless or "supra-state" corporate entities that occupy and administer the roles of governance in territorially defined areas? In relevance to the above question, is Automagfreek's stance on capital planning, investment, and corporate development more geared towards unrestricted private development versus government control on market rules?

-This question holds a significant historical relevance for the Schultarian nation; as a nation once controlled by a sprawling, Orwellian, morass of such devices, the public view of recognizing or supporting corporate "states" holds a less than warm reception among the bulk of the Schultarian populace. If support of such entities is part and parcel of the Freekian diplomatic initiative we'll not intervene with your own private diplomatic affairs. However, popular pressures might force the National Assembly and Department of State to reassess current material and diplomatic commitments towards NATO and its component members."

The People of the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime thank you for your time,

-Carl Xardas, Secretary of State for the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime
Southeastasia
30-11-2005, 10:28
OOC: Mind if my characters use this as a reference?
Southeastasia
11-02-2006, 15:15
OOC: Sorry to bump up a thread, but well?