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Kanabia seeks international approval for undersea claims.

Kanabia
16-06-2004, 11:52
Two deep sea settlements, "Poseidon" and "Deephold" have been established within Kanabia's EEZ. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3317954

However, we seek international approval to build the Undersea station "Pacifica" Which will have a permanent population of 4000. To do this would mean using areas outside the current international naval borders. Which is why, we ask the international community to remove such restrictions, and open the undersea environment up to our operations. "Pacifica" will have a primarily research oriented focus, and also serve as a terminal for our environmentally sound underwater mining operations. The research operations on this station will be primarily aimed at solutions to declining fish stocks worldwide, something of immense benefit to all nations faced with this problem. (IE. Everyone.) Should our permission to grant this station be built, we feel very confident that we can identify the primary causes and resolve the problem without damaging the economies of fishing nations.
Kanabia
17-06-2004, 02:07
*bump*
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 12:46
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 12:48
*bump*
Tahar Joblis
19-06-2004, 13:49
Tahar Joblis is willing to aid in this research and also willing to recognize such a facility well into international waters. Although we do not fish, our large scale seaweed farming operations necessitate close attention to the ecologic balances of the fisheries.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:03
We appreciate your support. When the facility is complete, you may have a permanent scientific mission there.
Kanabia
19-06-2004, 15:52
bumpski
Granzi
19-06-2004, 16:12
As long as the facicilties do not have an military application, the Commonwealth supports such research. Granzi is a sea-faring nation, and finds such a project very intruging.
Erinin
19-06-2004, 16:29
The Leaders of Erinin acting as the AOH alliance head have issued this official statement in response to the Kanabia governments request for international approval on a permanent static under-sea settlement.

"With reguards to the matter of settling the sea bed in international waters.
The nation of Erinin, recognizes the Kanabian right to life, and pursuit of knowledge. The nation of Erinin recognizes Kanabian right to unhindered use of the unclaimed sea bed. The nation of Erinin does not recognize any claim of sovereign rule, right, sway, or control of the area defined as international. While the nation of Erinin's position is that no Kanabian vessel/structure should be forcably boarded or tresspassed upon. The global community does have every right to free flowing information of what is occuring in international waters, as it applies to a static structure which could realistically be used as an aggressive extension of Kanabian rule.
The nation of Erinin requests that Kanabia allow inspection of this settlement (reasonably every 2 years).
The nation of Erinin requests the Kanabia make full to the global scientific community use of this facility(full use as it does not disrupt the normal operations), as of course Kanabia should be fully endowed with right to schedule reasonable amount of time and sets. Kanabia should as well be able to restrict certain nations that are aggressive or pose a genuine threat to the security of Kanabia.
The nation of Erinin fully believes that with global cooperation there is no reason Kanabia should not be allowed to operate an under-sea settlement in this fashion.
Communist Louisiana
19-06-2004, 16:41
We would support this plan. We to are in the processes of building a Sea Lab about 25 miles off the coast for scientific purposes.
Sarzonia
19-06-2004, 18:55
We express our concerns that such a project could lead to less than desirable consequences. In addition, we ask that you not use the waters of soverign countries.
Kanabia
20-06-2004, 10:32
Sarzonia- It is to be constructed in international waters, and will not impact any nations whatsoever. We ask what consequences your government is concerned about?

CL- We appreciate your support. If you wish, we will happily provide technological support.

Erinin- We accept the conditions of inspection, and of course we would open the settlement to the international community. The reason we ask for sovereignity, is purely for administrative purposes. Only the base, and a 10NM boundary around it, will be considered a territory of Kanabia, to allow us to build and maintain the facility legally. While we will control construction and maintenance of new facilities, etc. The international community will have full use of them.

Granzi- The facility itself does not hold military equipment or production facilities, however its defensive responsibility will fall under the Kanabian navy and the base police force.
Vanuu
20-06-2004, 11:24
The empire of vanuu is in full support of this interesting new devolopment. We too are interested in under-sea reaserch, but unfotunatly we don't have the capabilaty of building a reserch station alone. We would like to place a small 87 man reaserch station in your new undersea colony. we will supply you with reasorces and funds to build ours and aid yours. if you agree to let us build a small reaserch station in your new colony we shall share our findings and pay you a monthly rent on the space the station will use.

please consider our offer and then tell me whatn you think of it.
Kanabia
21-06-2004, 06:51
We accept your offer, however rent on the space that you use shall not be necessary, If you pay for the construction of the building, pay for the supplies that your men use will be ample instead.

Naturally, we agree to the technology sharing proposal.
MMI
21-06-2004, 07:17
MMI GROSS Industries is interested in this project. Pending international and internal approval, our company would like to fund a wing of this facility for the purpose of housing and maintaining research and development facilities and personnel.

Such research would be directed toward (1) the collection and study of new undersea lifeforms for development of new human disease therapies, and (2) the study of human undersea adaptation and development of novel mechanical and biotechnologies.

Our proposal involves funding of the entire wing of the facility if it fits within the blueprint plans of the undersea construction site. If you are interested, we would like further details on (1) costs for construction, (2) surface-to-facility transportation details, and (3) security safeguards. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Kanabia
21-06-2004, 07:31
The plans have been updated, while the station was originally intended to hold a population of 4000, provision will be made for further expansion considering the unexpected international support for the project.

MMI:
To construct an entire wing of the facility will have an estimated minimum cost of $3 billion, as it is a new technology and construction will be difficult. (But, we have done it before, so it is proven safe)

Surface-to-facility consists of a twice a week run by a deep sea cargo submarine, which upon transferring cargo and passengers, rises to the surface and makes the run within several hours. The submarine also has provision for helicopter transport in an emergency.

Security of the facility will be under the responsibility of the Kanabian Navy. There will be a Dolphin class SSN on patrol constantly, with occasional changeovers of submarines for resupply. Internal defence is to be conducted by station security, who will be an independent police force funded by the Kanabian Government. In an emergency situation, for example, an attack upon the station, the navy will give it priority consideration.
Kanabia
21-06-2004, 07:32
The plans have been updated, while the station was originally intended to hold a population of 4000, provision will be made for further expansion considering the unexpected international support for the project.

MMI:
To construct an entire wing of the facility will have an estimated minimum cost of $3 billion, as it is a new technology and construction will be difficult. (But, we have done it before, so it is proven safe)

Surface-to-facility consists of a twice a week run by a deep sea cargo submarine, which upon transferring cargo and passengers, rises to the surface and makes the run within several hours. The submarine also has provision for helicopter transport in an emergency.

Security of the facility will be under the responsibility of the Kanabian Navy. There will be a Dolphin class SSN on patrol constantly, with occasional changeovers of submarines for resupply. Internal defence is to be conducted by station security, who will be an independent police force funded by the Kanabian Government. In an emergency situation, for example, an attack upon the station, the navy will give it priority consideration.
MMI
21-06-2004, 22:43
The plans have been updated, while the station was originally intended to hold a population of 4000, provision will be made for further expansion considering the unexpected international support for the project.

MMI:
To construct an entire wing of the facility will have an estimated minimum cost of $3 billion, as it is a new technology and construction will be difficult. (But, we have done it before, so it is proven safe)

Surface-to-facility consists of a twice a week run by a deep sea cargo submarine, which upon transferring cargo and passengers, rises to the surface and makes the run within several hours. The submarine also has provision for helicopter transport in an emergency.

Security of the facility will be under the responsibility of the Kanabian Navy. There will be a Dolphin class SSN on patrol constantly, with occasional changeovers of submarines for resupply. Internal defence is to be conducted by station security, who will be an independent police force funded by the Kanabian Government. In an emergency situation, for example, an attack upon the station, the navy will give it priority consideration.

These conditions sound good. For $3 billion, what is the size of the facility? How many total personnel can it accomidate? Does it include just laboratory space or also living quarters? Also, will we have access to a bay in order to launch small deep-sea vehicles? And finally, we would like to also have access to areas on the sea-floor in order to set up experimental undersea farming initiatives.
MMI
21-06-2004, 22:44
McQuaide
21-06-2004, 23:35
McQuaide
21-06-2004, 23:36
The Commonwealth of McQuaide would support such facilities on the grounds that environmental impact is negligable, and the facilities possess no offensive weapons systems.

In exchange for a 15% share of gross profits, the Commonwealth of McQuaide would furthermore allow for the construction of three similar facilities within the EEZ of McQuaide in the Black Sea.
McQuaide
21-06-2004, 23:37
double post
Kanabia
23-06-2004, 05:56
MMI- For your $3 billion investment, you would receive living quarters for 500 people, laboratories, and certainly a shuttle-bay. Sea floor access is also not a problem- however would you instead prefer to combine our reasearch with regards to undersea farming.

McQuaide- But of course the environmental imp0act is negligible, as the prime purpose of this facility is to protect the environment! Thanks, but no thanks with regards to the Black Sea offer. The environmental damage in that region (ooc: IRL, of course) makes an environmental research facility unfeasible. Also, the facility is not run for profit.

Construction will begin in one month. (ooc: tomorrow)
Aztec National League
23-06-2004, 06:36
We have no problem with this type of colonization. We are very currious how you will go about this.
MMI
23-06-2004, 08:11
MMI- For your $3 billion investment, you would receive living quarters for 500 people, laboratories, and certainly a shuttle-bay. Sea floor access is also not a problem- however would you instead prefer to combine our reasearch with regards to undersea farming.


Agreed then. Funds of $3 billion are wired immediately to your country. We look forward to our collaboration.
Kanabia
24-06-2004, 09:45
ooc: agh, not enough time today. construction is delayed until the weekend, i'll make a new thread then
Ybronneb
24-06-2004, 10:38
Would it be possible to buy a section of the station? I need a place to make a small military base. If we buy a section, then we will sign a permanent treaty stating that if the nation of Ybronneb attacks you, our section of the station is forfeit. Ybronneb would immediately be booted from the station, and anything else you want. Do we have a deal? If so, name your price.
Chris gueulette
24-06-2004, 11:13
i will give you anything you would like if i was able to expand your military and become allies
Falangist Reich
24-06-2004, 11:18
OOC:what tech are you Kanabia
Chris gueulette
24-06-2004, 15:45
nvm c
Kanabia
24-06-2004, 15:55
ooc: Falangist Reich- Near future (2010-2030)
Chris gueulette- Umm, what do you mean exactly? It wasn't quite clear (maybe i'm just tired)
IC:

Ybronneb- Afraid not. See, it's in international waters, and that probably wouldn't go down well. More to the point, we do not have the authority to grant you such permission in the first place.
Falangist Reich
28-06-2004, 10:21
OOC:So are we. Though we have crap russian fighters