NationStates Jolt Archive

As Premier Mustafa Fenris was sworn in today, Collectivist and True directorate supports swarmed the streets in protest. Shortly after Premier Fenris was sword in he disbanded the Halladi Parliament and proclaimed himself President-For-Life.

Since that time 4 attempts have been made on his life. And 30% of the Millitary (18,002,700 Men) left their posts and went to their homes. On the second day of Fenris' 'Presidency' all political parties other than the Capitalism Now Party were banned. The True Directorate declared itself a Government in Exile and most of the party members plan to leave to any nation willing to give them asylum.

Soon after these events riots began to break out nation wide, and law and order has broke down. A state of Emergancy has been declared.

The People's Republic wishes to normalise relations with our former enemy, whose populace has finally seen the light by throwing off the shackles of Communist oppression. Perhaps an exchange of embassies is in order?
And if Premier Fenris requires any assistance in ending the strife being caused by the former regime, who have clearly been cast out of office through a fair and democratic process, we would be only to happy to oblige.
Perhaps Premier Fenris would also like to consider joining the Pro-Capitalist Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148142&highlight=&sid=f3a1206096293030548e8bec738ca553), who assisted vigorously in his attempts to win election (26 telegrams it took, and most of them didn't bother to reply).
Congratulations once again on your victory, Mr Fenris.

Yours sincerely,
High Chairman Captain James Hillary (Shildonian Navy, Rtd) Esq. DoF. KBE. BsC.

As a member of the PCA, Bohravia recognises the new Halladian government. We too congratulate the nation for freeing itself from the shackles of Communism, although are saddened by the chaos that sweeps the nation. If Hallad desires, we can send an elite peacekeeping force of 150 men to help restore order.

We eagerly await your response.


Zlatko Nemechek
Bohravian Foreign Minister

We will welcome the exiled government, and aid them in their cause to fight the dictator Fenris.

If necessary, King George I of Mestionian is willing to send military support to ensure President Fenris' regime.

-Lord Urtul
Servant and Protector of the Kingdom of Mestionian

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Galdania is more than willing to launch a revolution against Fenris's dictatorship, as soon as the real government gives the word.

Ships stationed off of Yaksylvania and in Naorian ports and in the island of Vjaya can be near Hallad within twelve hours.

You know, I really wish that 30% of my active military was 18 million - it would be something like 50% in my case. And my population is rather large.

IC:

West Scotland deplores the actions of the new Hallad government. You may be capitalist, but you are a disgrace to capitalist democracy; we implore you to restore political freedoms and an elected parliamentary body.

Galdania is more than willing to launch a revolution against Fenris's dictatorship, as soon as the real government gives the word.

Ships stationed off of Yaksylvania and in Naorian ports and in the island of Vjaya can be near Hallad within twelve hours.

Now we see the true face of Communism showing it's ugly face. They speak at great lengths of their democratic tendencies, but as soon as their oppressed peoples decide they have had enough, they immediatly use force to overthrow the democratically elected government of the people of Hallad.

Galdania is more than willing to launch a revolution against Fenris's dictatorship, as soon as the real government gives the word.

Ships stationed off of Yaksylvania and in Naorian ports and in the island of Vjaya can be near Hallad within twelve hours.

Now we see the true face of Communism showing it's ugly face. They speak at great lengths of their democratic tendencies, but as soon as their oppressed peoples decide they have had enough, they immediatly use force to overthrow the democratically elected government of the people of Hallad.

Fenris has declared himself a dictator.

Since 1933-1972 and 1972-now we have had democracy in Galdania (that 1 week period in 1972 was rather unfortunate...), and we will not allow wayward madmen to despoil the world by seizing power of peaceful nations.

We emplore all former-soldiers of the Hallad army to rise up against Fenris, as all good people of Hallad should.

OOC: Hallad and Shildonia Allies? Never saw that one coming.

IC:

We in Hallad would be delighted to join this Pro-Capitalist Alliance. And would like to exchange embassies with Shildonia. We thank all those who have shown support, but we can handle this situation.

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To any nation that sends ships into our waters without Governmetn permission will be fired at by our Navy. Furthermore, any diplomats of Communist nations in Hallad are being expelled.

Some True Directorate members were able to escape the nation, most of which headed to Communist Louisiana. (That's where the would go, after all that's where the International is)

West Scotland would like to make its position very clear : we accept the democratically elected government of Hallad and do not condone the overthrowing of the leader Fenris; but we highly recommend and suggest most urgently that a parliamentary body be reinstated and national elections as well, for the stability of Hallad.

This is not a good way to lead a people out of communism...for the sake of stability, at the very least, do this...

Fenris has declared himself a dictator.

Since 1933-1972 and 1972-now we have had democracy in Galdania (that 1 week period in 1972 was rather unfortunate...), and we will not allow wayward madmen to despoil the world by seizing power of peaceful nations.

We emplore all former-soldiers of the Hallad army to rise up against Fenris, as all good people of Hallad should.


The people of Hallad voted for Premier Fenris in free and fair elections. It is their right to elect whomever they like to rule over them, in whatever manner they like.
Pray tell, where do you derive your mandate to determine who is best suited to rule Hallad? Or do you simply feel that Communism is so good no one in their right mind would vote against it, and that has a result this "mentally ill majority" needs to have their decision corrected for them?

Galdania's nation is already heading to the Persian Gulf (I assume Hallad is in the Middle East?).

We will oust Fenris' dictatorship at all costs.

The Marleblanke battleship Novikraznyistolisblanka will be the flag ship in the area.

OOC: I'll explain the Marleblanke Cannon later. I have to go for the night.

The Republic of Fauquier offers asylum to the Government-in-exile of Hallad. Furthermore, if relations with this new dictatorship cannot be normalized(the most likely outcome) the Fauquieran embassy will be evacuated. Finally, the Republic sends warning to the usurper government that such actions will not be tolerated for long.

Fenris has declared himself a dictator.

Since 1933-1972 and 1972-now we have had democracy in Galdania (that 1 week period in 1972 was rather unfortunate...), and we will not allow wayward madmen to despoil the world by seizing power of peaceful nations.

We emplore all former-soldiers of the Hallad army to rise up against Fenris, as all good people of Hallad should.


The people of Hallad voted for Premier Fenris in free and fair elections. It is their right to elect whomever they like to rule over them, in whatever manner they like.
Pray tell, where do you derive your mandate to determine who is best suited to rule Hallad? Or do you simply feel that Communism is so good no one in their right mind would vote against it, and that has a result this "mentally ill majority" needs to have their decision corrected for them?

"We will assassinate or otherwise disable the power of the dictator that has taken power in Hallad. This is our objective; it shall be acheived."
-Almaraj Taabir, leader of the Galdanian First and Only Assassination Squad.

OOC: it's not really in a RL location, but it's technically located opposite of Saudi Arabia. (in stead of above the equator it's below)

IC:

Galdania will stand down immediatly or Hallad will declare war on you, this is an internal affair which doesn't concern your nation.

The United States of Trekys, while it favors capitalism, does not favor dictatorship. So, we are sending our 3th and 4th carrier groups into the area and we will help aid the rioting nation to overthrough the dictatorship. we will dispatch over 50,000 marines into the area aswell.

If Hallad goes to war with Galdania, Mestionian and her colonies will come to Hallad's aide.

-King George I
Ruler of Mestionian and her territories.

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Hallad has sent the 12th and 13th fleets to attack the forces of Trekys.

Let us settle this diplomatically, and not hastily make a call to arms. This is the business of nobody's but Hallad's...West Scotland pleads to all who are sending forces into the area to haul out and try diplomacy first.

We are still maintaining our stance in that elections and parliament ought to be reinstated.

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"Galdania's agents are at work to assasinate the Halladese dictator," began the commander.

"Good," muttered one of his agents.

"Shut up. Our orders are to protect this dictator...our nation made a pledge to preserve democracy and stability - this man was elected, and we are working at diplomacy to reinstate democracy. To assasinate him would plunge the whole bloody nation into chaos.

"The powers that be want this to be strictly protection of the dictator. Small scale, few people, utmost secrecy. We take out those and only those who are pointing guns at the dictator or similar. I don't care if a known Galdanian assasin is walking about the streets, if he doesn't have a rifle pointed at the guy, you don't shoot up. We have nothing against Galdania; we simply wish to preserve the elected office and work peacefully."

"Excuse me sir, but why are we protecting a dictator?"

The commander sighed. "I don't know. He was elected, and our best shot is at diplomacy...do not fail."

"Right."

With that, the team split up from their undisclosed dropping point in Hallad, and headed for different locations to wind up in the capital city. Five men - their only objective is to keep the dictator alive while diplomacy is still a viable option.

Even though we have had our differences with Hallad we will back the True Directorate back to power. We will use any means possible if wished.

Rickie DuFour
Premier of CL

An aide ran into the crowded Presidential conference room with a harried expression on his face. He was carrying a sheath of files and several printed reports.

"Madame. President, news from Hallad. It appears they have become a pro-capitalist dictatorship."

"How the hell did that happen?" asked Lashmi Iodavari, a bit startled.

"It appears that the President elect was sworn in then immedialty disbanded the congress and outlawed all political parties except for the Capitalism Now Party. The government which we had recognized has decalred itself in exile and is seeking a nation to claim asylum in."

"Get the media in here, its time for a news conferance."

Exactly one hour later, the conference chamber was crowded with members of the international press and the Blargistanian national news networks. Lashmi seated herself in front of the podium and adressed the nation and the world.

People of Blargistania, and the world. Today, we witnessed the overthrow of a legitamite government and the installment of a capitalist dictatorship. The government that Blargistania still sees as legitamite has declared itself in exile. It is, therefore, our duty, as a pro-leftist state to take action and declare that the government of Blargistania will welcome the exiled government into our nation as well as any peoples wishing to flee Hallad. Blargistania refuses to recognize the new government of Hallad as legitamite because of the actions taken by the so called 'President' (and partly because we are socialists). As of now, Blargistania will remain neutral and welcome refugees and asylum seekers. Should violence break out, let it be known that Blargistania will side with the pro-communist forces, but, until that happens, we remain on the sidelines. Our forces will remain on high alert, watching the region. Should violence break out, or should crackdowns occur within the civilian population, Blargistania will act.

Lashmi got up and left, leaving her press secretaries to field questions from the media. As of 10 pm that night, Blargistanian military forces went on high alert, watching the region closely.

OOC: Lashmi is an acting President, the real President, Aleczander Hamion, is at a state funeral for Premier DuFour of Communist Louisiana.

Hallad would like to use diplomacy, but the Communist scum has threatened to attack us in order to instate their puppets in Hallad.

OOC: btw, it's 'Halladi' not Halladian or whatever. Sorry, that bothers me for some reason....

Hallad has sent the 12th and 13th fleets to attack the forces of Trekys.

Trekys does not WISH for an engagment, but we will fight.

OOC: should i post what my carrier groups consist of? also, where not commies, we just don't favor dictatorships

OOC: I'm surprised your nation can afford carriers, let alone the cost of supporting them at sea. I suggest you back down before your entire Navy finds itself at the bottom of the ocean.

OOC Yeah.

13th Fleet

-1 Odin Class CVL Aircraft Carrier
-2 littoral Combat ships
-1 Christius-Class Battleship
-1 Xeraph Class ASW Destroyers
-1 Mercy Hospitol Ship
-1 Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyers
-1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
-2 Sirius Class Combat Stores Ship
-1 Cimarron Class Fleet Oiler
-50 Mechanized Landing Craft (LCM)
-24 MiG-29's
-12 SH-60F Seahawk

12th Fleet

-1 Odin Class CVL Aircraft Carrier
-2 littoral Combat ships
-2 Christius-Class Battleship
-1 Xeraph Class ASW Destroyers
-1 Mercy Hospitol Ship
-1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
-2 Sirius Class Combat Stores Ship
-1 Cimarron Class Fleet Oiler
-50 Mechanized Landing Craft (LCM)
-24 MiG-29's
-12 SH-60F Seahawk

OOC: ME!? i have 6 trillion dollars

OOC: How the hell did you manage 700+ million people in less than a week?

OOC: UM CRAP lol u'd kick my arss, but i'll still post them:

3rd and 4th both have these:
1 x Nimitz Carrier
5 x ROYDIA CLASS BATTLESHIPs
10 x Heavy Cruisers

and my marines have not reached there yet

OOC: How the hell did you manage 700+ million people in less than a week?

i'm not new, i've had this account for about a year, i wasn't on for awhile and it got deleted. i requested it back though

[code:1:f915e03d95]To. Government-in-exile of Hallad
We see you as the true government of the people. We know of the sceme by Shildonia as well as you do now. Our entire armies stand ready to crush the capitalist problums.[/code:1:f915e03d95]

OOC: Also i made this ship last year and i have one, can i use it too?

Targus Class Super Carrier
Length: 1.35 km
Width: 786 m
Speed W full load: 5 kts
Speed W no load: 15 kts
Armour: 12 cm of Titanium
Room:
Room for 158 Aircraft
Supports 4 runways
15 Helicopter pads
Quad Chamber Nuclear reactor
Room for 100 tanks
Room for 150 Artillery Vehicles
Room for 50 Supply trucks
4 x H-1 Bomber
2 x H-2 Bomber
2 x Z-3A Troop Drop Planes
14 x H-1 Helicopter
6 x H-2 Helicopter
4 x H-3 Helicopter
75 x Q-1 Fighter jet
75 x Q-2 Fighter jet
50 x Q-3 Fighter jet
25 x Q-3A Fighter jet
Room for 3000 soldiers
Supplies:
200 Missles of All Types
500 Bombs of All Types
2000 Clips of All Types of Ammunition
75 x Type-1 Semi Automatic Weapons
50 x Type-2 Semi Automatic Weapons
75 x Type 3 Semi Automatic Weapons
100 x Type 4 Automatic Guns
75 x Type 5 Automatic Guns
75 x Type 6 Automatic Guns
50 x Type 7 Machine Guns
25 x Type 8 Machine Guns
100 x Type 8a Machine Guns
100 x Type 8b Machine Guns
100 x R - 12 Handguns
100 x MX - 3 Rifles
20,000 kg of Rations
Arnament:
35 x S-1 Missle Launchers 200 Intercepting Missles
30 x S-2 Missle Launchers 175 Intercepting Missles
25 x S-3 Missle Launchers 150 Intercepting Missles
20 x S-4 Missle Launchers 125 Intercepting Missles
15 x S-5 Missle Launchers 100 Intercepting Missles
50 x 15mm Machine Guns 1,000,000 Rounds

He must have been resurrected. Anyways...Galdania, if you wish to take into account my four agents in the nation when trying your assasination...please do. If you've got a good sizeable force, I don't expect to hold out for long, you're still slightly larger than me by a few hundred million...better logistics, more committed forces, et cetera. But please acknowledge them sometime.

[code:1:a0b2558d2d]To: CL
From: TTD
We thank you for your support, and are eager to crush the Capitalist opressors.[/code:1:a0b2558d2d]

OOC: That's slightly über...

OOC: I gotta go for the night, so no attacking me for now. It can wait!

OOC: lol ok, but can i still send the USS Trekys, the Targas Class Super Carrier

As another member of the Capitalist Alliance, the Triumviatorial Republic of Tyrandis welcomes the new, free state of Hallad to the international community. As has been the case in the former USSR, the people have spoken and have thrown off the shackles of Communist oppression.

Tyrandis offers her full support to the legitimate government in trade, arms, and friendship.

May good fortunes come as your economy is freed of the burden of Collectivism.

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Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State

At the President's Villa:

The President is thinking to himself:
'Agh, I have guests, some random nation wants me dead, and now Hallad is Capatilist. Time to settle this.'

[code:1:57e38e0980] To the government-in-exile
Subject: True Dictotarate

We understand the situation in Hallad. I recommend small tactical strikes against important targets. Anything that you need will be provided. I pray that you are restored to power. My best advice is assissination. If he is dead, you should have your power. Good luck comrade and God bless.
-President Sergei Ilyanov of the Island of Rose[/code:1:57e38e0980]

OOC: Well, if i can use the Targas, its battle group has the following:

1 x Targas USS Trekys (only one in service)
5 x Federation Destroyers
5 x E-1 Subs
5 x Heavy Cruisers

"Sir, our battle groups have been pulled out of IDF's area, where should they go?" says John, one of the President's aide's

"Tell them to come home and send 5 of our E-2 subs and our 3 Arleigh Burke Destroyers and also another 5 Federation Destroyers." Says President Leonard McCoy

"Sir, what about.......her?"say John, with a slightly scared face

"She shall stay in dock until we need her, and so will her escorts" says the President

"Aye sir" replies John

OOC: Thats it, all my forces that i'm willing to send are sent, unless hallard says i can use the Targas Class Super Carrier :D

The following units are being dispatched to International waters off the coast of Hallad:

15 Infusion Class Carriers
x150 S-3B Viking
x200 F-117A Nighthawk
x200 A-10 Thunderbolt
x800 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel's
x50 F-77's

7 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier's
x150 F-5 Tiger II
x150 F-20 Tigershark
x200 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
x95 AH-64 Apache

25 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
15 Silencer Class Submarine

4 Blue Ridge Class Amphibious Command Ship's
5 Wright Class Aviation Logistics Support Ship
5 Gopher State Class Auxiliary Crane Ship
5 Strong Virginian Class Lift-on/Lift-off Ship
5 Observation Island Class Radar Ship

12 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's

10 Iowa Class Battleship's
10 Leviathon Class Trimaran Battleship's
10 Tidal class Battleship's
15 Skjold Class Battleship
5 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleships

semi-OOC: And THIS is why the capitalists must make alliances to stop the Communist threat.

Shall they have kept a democratic system of capitalism, we would not oppose this new government directly. However, due to the descent into dictatorship, and the forceful expulsion of our embassy staff (Some still being held in custody and we have no idea of their wherabouts) we must protest!

All credible nations should oppose this new government. Democratically elected, perhaps but certainly NOT acting in the interests of its people. The dictator must be removed and new elections should be held, and constitutional safeguards put in place to prevent this occuring again.

The U.S.S.B. opens her borders to any and all Halladi communists and socialists seeking asylum. We urge democratic control be reinstated. A dictatorship is a dictatorship, regardless of what guise it may hide under. These lines between capitalism and communism cannot afford to be drawn now. This is not an issue of communism versus capitalism, but rather dictatorial regime versus democracy. Regardless of economic system, the people's choice must be protected overall. While the U.S.S.B. will not at this point commit arms to any struggle, defensive measures are being taken within the country in order to prevent any retaliatory strikes following this message. We stress the need for a diplomatic solution if possible, but recognize the chances of reasoning with a dictator. May the people of Hallad triumph and may they retain their autonomy and strength as a thriving democracy.

Joseph Garrett,
President, U.S.S.B.

The U.S.S.B. opens her borders to any and all Halladi communists and socialists seeking asylum. We urge democratic control be reinstated. A dictatorship is a dictatorship, regardless of what guise it may hide under. These lines between capitalism and communism cannot afford to be drawn now. This is not an issue of communism versus capitalism, but rather dictatorial regime versus democracy. Regardless of economic system, the people's choice must be protected overall. While the U.S.S.B. will not at this point commit arms to any struggle, defensive measures are being taken within the country in order to prevent any retaliatory strikes following this message. We stress the need for a diplomatic solution if possible, but recognize the chances of reasoning with a dictator. May the people of Hallad triumph and may they retain their autonomy and strength as a thriving democracy.

Joseph Garrett,
President, U.S.S.B.

We applaud this well thought out statement and it holds true for our opinions as well.

Thousands of Socialist supporters flee the country however they can as many disapear from theri homes. Most True Directorate leaders have joined with the Halladi delegates at The International in New Orleans. Collectivist Party leaders have been reported showing up in Kanabia, Bergist, Communist Louisiana and various other nations.

Hallad has official dropped out of The International, however the Government-in-Exile has choosen to represent Hallad in the conference.

Nearly all the rioting has stopped as the Halladi people ready themselves for war. Even under the new Regime they are willing to defend theier homeland, the missing troops have once again reported for duty.

All troops, naval vessals, or aircraft involved in conflicts have been recalled, (mainly the 12th army and fleets in Lenarch) they are expected to return in 5 NS days.

OOC:Who's aginst hallad? so that way i know if i have any allies in this lol

IC:
The 2 Nimitz Class Carriers and her escorts, as well as the newly arrived 5 Federation Destroyers, 3 Arleigh Burke Destroyers and 5 E-2 subs all begin to move into a defensive position to hold their ground. All ships have been put on high alert. and 25 CV-22 Troop Transport Hovercraft have arrived with marines.

OOC: I am, and you can probably say that the entire Communist International is willing to remove this dictator and allow the people of Hallad to return to democratic rule.

IC: A submarine task force consisting of 5 Dolphin class SSN's is enroute to provide support to the fleet of Trekys.

Parliament is split over further support, as we do not want to harm the people of Hallad, who have been our allies for so long now...

Psov and her puppets all will immediately take action in favor of the true government if a revolution should break out.

The Peoples Congress delivers this demand. Either the dictator stands down, or we will use military force to uninstall him. If any nation stands in our way, they will be dealt with also by force. We will re-install the True Directorate and we will have more than 3 million Red Army Troops on the ground if need be.

The vast military of Communist Louisiana begins a mass mobilization.

OCC: I am against the capitalist dictator, I am a supporter of the True Directorate.

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To: Mustafa Fenris, Premier, Hallad
From: Joseph Garrett, President, U.S.S.B.

Now is not the time to mince words. On behalf of the international community and on the part of the peoples of Bergist, we would implore you reinstate democratic rule in your country. To deny the people a voice is tantemount to oppression in its more overt forms. Please, heed the call of the world and bring back the Halladi parliment. The people of Bergist would accept your leadership of the country, if only you would allow for elections and allow the populace to be heard and heeded. Thank you.
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-Cape of Neirtul, Mestionian-

On the order of King George I of Mestionian, all military personell have been placed on full alert and the necessary provisions are being made in the event of war. Mestionian's 2nd and 7th Naval Fleets totalling 2 carriers (117 MS-12 and MS-18 Fighter Bombers each), 2 battleships, 4 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 attack, and 2 missile submarines have been armed and equipped. King George has also readied the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 16th Infantry Legions for battle. Each Legion is comprised of 5,000 men including officers and support personell (4600 combat troops). Additionally, the 9th Parachute Division, famous for the rapid capture of Azerian's capital of Tobruk have been readied.

Naval Force: 16 war ships and crowds of other assorted transport ships.
Ground Force: 27,000 men

In command of this force will be King George's eldest son and heir to the throne of Mestionian, Lord Aran of Azerian. At Lord Aran's order, 12,000 Azerian soldiers and the 5th Azerian Battle Group comprised of 1 Battleship, 2 Cruisers, 2 Destroyers, and 2 attack submarines have been mustered and sent to Mestionian.

King George I awaits the call from Hallad for aide and stands prepared to defend the legitimate ruler of a capitalist nation.

Total Naval Force: 23 warships and a group assorted transport vessels
Total Ground Force: 39,000 men with vehicles and APC's.

"Sir, our current forces near hallad are as follows:
2 Nimitz Class Carriers
10 ROYDIA CLASS BATTLESHIPs
20 Heavy Cruisers
5 Federation Destroyers
3 Arleigh Burke Destroyers
5 E-2 subs
25 CV-22 Troop Transpot Hovercraft each capable of holding 500 troops

and the Targas Class Super Carrier is being preped for launch." said John, the Presidents aid

"Good.......thats more then enough, i hope...."said the president

OOC: You guys mind If I use my orbital weapons?

IC:

the 5th-10th Armed Merchant Fleets have been sent out to meet the threat from Trekys as well, with news of their super carrier joining them.

OOC:

5th-10th Armed Merchant Fleets
-20 Heavily Armed Ships
-10 Lightly Amred Ships
-5 Special Purpose Ships (fitted with SAM's and Sub-Hunting equipment.)

Hattia is saddened by the seizure of power by the capitalist dictator. We refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the government and will hearby close our embassy in Hallad...

Comrade Alexei Haton Alexandrov
Minister of Diplomacy

12 miles west of Petrograd

"Commander, I've just gotten word from the Minister of War, a dictator has seized power in Hallad..." Commander Danilov of the 75th Hat Guard Commandoes Brigade grimaced. "So, what are we supposed to do...?" The messenger nodded and handed the commander a piece of paper.

After looking over it he stood up and walked over to the barracks, after about 10 minutes his men had assembled, been briefed and loaded onto their planes...

Psovs 12th and 13th Submarine Flotilla's have been deployed for reconnasance reasons in the international waters surrounding Hallad. Psovs' 6th, 7th and 8th infantry divisions are ready for action if action becomes necessary.

-Cape of Neirtul, Mestionian-

On the order of King George I of Mestionian, all military personell have been placed on full alert and the necessary provisions are being made in the event of war. Mestionian's 2nd and 7th Naval Fleets totalling 2 carriers (117 MS-12 and MS-18 Fighter Bombers each), 2 battleships, 4 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 2 attack, and 2 missile submarines have been armed and equipped. King George has also readied the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 16th Infantry Legions for battle. Each Legion is comprised of 5,000 men including officers and support personell (4600 combat troops). Additionally, the 9th Parachute Division, famous for the rapid capture of Azerian's capital of Tobruk have been readied.

Naval Force: 16 war ships and crowds of other assorted transport ships.
Ground Force: 27,000 men

In command of this force will be King George's eldest son and heir to the throne of Mestionian, Lord Aran of Azerian. At Lord Aran's order, 12,000 Azerian soldiers and the 5th Azerian Battle Group comprised of 1 Battleship, 2 Cruisers, 2 Destroyers, and 2 attack submarines have been mustered and sent to Mestionian.

King George I awaits the call from Hallad for aide and stands prepared to defend the legitimate ruler of a capitalist nation.

Total Naval Force: 23 warships and a group assorted transport vessels
Total Ground Force: 39,000 men with vehicles and APC's.

We accept your offer of aid. Deploy in Hallad whenever you see fit.

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OOC: there's only a small section of Hallad that touches the water, I'll get a pic showing where it is later.

OOC: Wat kind of orbital weapons?

OOC: orbital artillery. Only conventional warhead on them too.

OOC: lol so that way u can destroy the USS Trekys b4 it gets to ur waters huh lol

OOC: Yeah, that was the idea. If you want I can give you a link where I use these weapons before so you don't think I'm just making these weapons up.

OOC: lol, no i believe you....um.....yea i guess you can, just don't do TO MUCH damage, i gotta go, i'll be back on at 9:00 estern

The People's Republic is also willing to offer military assistance to our new friends in the face of this flagrant Communist aggression. A carrier group is en-route, and an Aerial Battle Force is on 36 hour standby to deploy should a request be made.

To the nations currently working in tandem with the new Halladi regime:

We ask you, do you not hold democracy dear? Should not a democratic parliment be the voice of the people? The world quakes with the calls of "communist aggression" and the battlecries of those brave men and women on both sides who will give their lives for their values. Yet might we not avoid bloodshed, in our mutual goals. The people within our borders must be our key concerns, not the furthering of one economic ideal or another. We stress the need for elections within any government, unless for the (rather rare) consent of those governed to do otherwise. Yet be warned, though the U.S.S.B. now remains peaceful and militarilly neutral in the matter, we will defend our borders from any aggressor.

Joseph Garrett,
President, U.S.S.B.


Meanwhile within Bergist

As Collectivist Party leaders begin working in tandem with various branches of Bergistian intelligence and political officials, the People's Army moves to yellow alert, manning defensive positions throughout the countryside. As secret SAM sites ready themselves within the mountain ranges, citizens within the recently reconstructed capital of L'Ange begin practice drills on how to respond to air raids. U.S.S.B. President Garrett has been seen often on the airwaves, keeping the public up to date and reassuring the masses.

A single Bergistian airship, modeled after those flown by their allies, glides gracefully over L'Ange, a constant sentry over a city that had seen all too much violence, all to recently.

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OOC: So, this is because of democracy? Huh. I hope you don't decide to invade me cause I'm a laid-back monarchist.

ooc: I have no interest whatsoever in invasion...note Bergist is a socialist nation, not gearing up for all out war with Hallad...we don't do invasions.

The ideals of collectivism have always resulted in failure for all of the 20th century. Hitler. Stalin. Mao. All of them preached the abandonment of individual rights for the People, the State, or whatever the goal was.

History has borne witness to the results of such, in terms of blood, tears, and death.

Mr. Garrett, in your statement that

not the furthering of one economic ideal or another

you appear to claim that Communism and Capitalism stand on morally equal grounds. This is a lie, as all the world has seen throughout the ages.

While we denounce the abandonment of representative government, the Premier has assured that capitalism will flourish and the oppressive Communist regime will be overthrown.

Already, the new government is under threat by the forces of other Communist states. More and more troops are being mobilized, for what reason?

This reason: The reenslavement of free men.

The Triumviate cannot allow such a thing to occur. We stand with Shildonia and the Halladi government, and will dispatch the 10th Mountain Division to assist in humanitarian operations. We have no intention of bloodshed, but let it be known that if any offensive operations are taken against our forces, it would be tantamout to a declaration of war.

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Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State

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The Halladi government accepts Shildonia's offer of assistance.

* * *

In space the computers aboard weapons platforms 1-5 lit up. Orders had been given, coordinates were being input and a target deisgnated. A fleet, the trekys fleet en route to Hallad. A small target but not impossible to hit. The GPS locked on and the weapons each fired 100 artillery rounds off.

Stalinism does not equal communism, and communism does not mean abandoning civil rights.

Kanabia is a testament to this fact.

BUMP

Out of the sky in (OOC: i assume near the middle east, right?) broad daylight can be seen these balls of fire heading towards the new carrier group, Trekys-1. 5 minutes before the balls of fire hit the fleet, the sirens were sounded and all the personal rushed to their battle stations. Just then, the balls began to strike, within moments the USS Federation and the USS Constant where destroyed, Federation Class Destroyers and the USS Trekys, the Targas Class Super Carrier was strusk as well. After all the fire was put out, the USS Alpha had to return for repairs and 5 of the 10 Heavy Crusiers were destroyed, but the USS Trekys only lost 2 Flight decks, Leaving 2 left for launches.

"This is the Captian of the USS Trekys, the Targas Class Super Carrier, we were just attacked from the sky by unknown weapons. A large amount of our escort group was destroyed or damaged, please someone out there respond, my ships has taken heavy damage. We have lost 500 sailors and 250 pilots (out of 3000/2000, eh?)

OOC: I'm not in a RL location, but if you need one, then yes, somewhere near the middle east.

-Mentresul, Mestionian-

Earlier today King George I, ruler of Mestionian and her colonies announced the beginning of formal military operations in the defense of the people of the great nation of Hallad. Below is what the King of Mestionian had to say.

"Citizens of Mestionian, on this day, the sixteenth of June, in the year two-thousand and four, I, King George I have ordered elements of the Royal Mestionian Army and Navy to depart for the great nation of Hallad tomorrow at daybreak. The nation of Hallad faces a sea of enemies ready and willing to destroy her in an attempt to spread leftist ideals throughout the world. Hallad has called for aide in defeating this unholy alliance of communist powers, and Mestionian will answer. Many among you will wonder why our brave soldiers must go an die on someone else's land, to this question I answer that it is the duty of all economically rich and free nations to prevent the spread of the evil known as communism to other corners of the globe. Hallad has thrown off the shackles of economic oppression, and Mestionian will ensure that she remains free. To our brave soldiers; You have taken oathes to your lord and country, fulfill them all, fight with honor, and bring victory to the forces of good. Cosa Nostra.

And so, as promised, at daybreak the following morning, nearly forty thousand troops and over twenty ships commanded by Lord Aran of Azerian left the shores of Mestionian, bound for a battleground past the not-to-distant horizon. The Mestionian force will arrive on the Halladi coast in 10(NS) days.

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The Sword of Mestionian, Everlasting Protector of the King.

The Arabian Republic will allow any pro-democracy, anti-Fenris nations to use it as a base to launch attacks on Fenris.

-Official Statement from Lord Ertu, brother of Lord Aran, ruler of Azerian, and heir to the throne of Mestionian-

The Arabian Republic will recant its offer of basing the enemies of Mestionian and Hallad or face military action from the Azerian Army. You have three days (1 NS hour) to withdraw your offer to lend your lands as a base before Azerian is forced to attack.

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Lord Ertu, Steward of Azerian, son of King George I of Mestionian

For 3 hours, the Captian of the USS Trekys continues his SOS radio, hoping that an ally find his ship, as well as his carrier's escorts, then over the radio, he hears another SOS, it was from the USS Alpha:

"This is Captian John Archer of the USS Alpha, my ships engine room just exploded and we are beginning to sink, to any ships out there, we require assitance, please, someone"

The captian of the USS Trekys, wanted to say to sit tight, but he didn't know if someone was ever going to radio back....

For 3 hours, the Captian of the USS Trekys continues his SOS radio, hoping that an ally find his ship, as well as his carrier's escorts, then over the radio, he hears another SOS, it was from the USS Alpha:

"This is Captian John Archer of the USS Alpha, my ships engine room just exploded and we are beginning to sink, to any ships out there, we require assitance, please, someone"

The captian of the USS Trekys, wanted to say to sit tight, but he didn't know if someone was ever going to radio back....

Azerian- An attack on the Arabian Republic will be an attack upon Kanabia and bring our nations into war.


We offer to station a motorised infantry brigade within the Arabian Republic to defend this nation.

For 3 hours, the Captian of the USS Trekys continues his SOS radio, hoping that an ally find his ship, as well as his carrier's escorts, then over the radio, he hears another SOS, it was from the USS Alpha:

"This is Captian John Archer of the USS Alpha, my ships engine room just exploded and we are beginning to sink, to any ships out there, we require assitance, please, someone"

The captian of the USS Trekys, wanted to say to sit tight, but he didn't know if someone was ever going to radio back....

"This is the Submarine Task Force "Gamma" to all Ships emitting distress callls. Hold tight. We have space for your crew members and shall bring them to safety.

The Galdanian Marleblanke Cannon fired from the coast near Hallad. It was aimed at the port in Hallad with the highest number of ships within it.

The original Marleblanke Cannon fired a blast of helium-3 energy that kiled 150,000 people in Al-Mahariti decades ago. The battleship-mounted version was far less deadly, and would cover only 10% of the area. Still, it had enough power to cripple a city, while minimizing civilian casualties.

Mounted on the battleship, it could only be fired once until power supplies came in from the Galdanian-protectorate of Vjaya, or from farther away South Kevon. Helium-3 was stored all around the ComIntern, but in very small quantities. Mining the stuff from the moon was costly, but helium-3 gave more power than Uranium or Plutonium, with no radiation. Truly a miracle element.

27 NAV III missiles were launched from other ships to bombard targets along the coastline. Galdanian Naval Command hoped that a massive display of force would force the dictator in Hallad to capitulate.
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OOC: What is Hallad's capital city?
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ULTIMATUM TO FENRIS: Step down and allow for the True Directorate to maintain interim governing authority, or we will force you to resign.

For 3 hours, the Captian of the USS Trekys continues his SOS radio, hoping that an ally find his ship, as well as his carrier's escorts, then over the radio, he hears another SOS, it was from the USS Alpha:

"This is Captian John Archer of the USS Alpha, my ships engine room just exploded and we are beginning to sink, to any ships out there, we require assitance, please, someone"

The captian of the USS Trekys, wanted to say to sit tight, but he didn't know if someone was ever going to radio back....

"This is the Submarine Task Force "Gamma" to all Ships emitting distress callls. Hold tight. We have space for your crew members and shall bring them to safety.

"This is Captain John Archer of the USS Alpha, THANK YOU SO MUCH!"
"This is Admiral James Kirk (lol), i'm sorry, but i had to use Captian, otherwise we may all be dead, only get the crew memebrs of the destroyed ships and the USS Alpha, my carrier and the remainder of my escorts shall continue, all i request is a reapir crew as we'd like to try to get one of out hangers open. Also, watch out down there, as u might bump into our 5 subs and no non were damaged or destroyed."

OOC: Kanabia, u know the specs for the Targas Class Super Carrier (USS Trekys) right?

EDIT** Just remembered, i have Subs with the escort group lol

OOC: the city with the largest number of ships in it is the capital, Erse. Congrats, you leveled the city of the True Directorate's Last Stand (a famous part of Hallad history).

IC:

Cassualties in Erse:

Civilian Cassualties: 10,145
Military Cassualties: 567

Cassualties elsewhere:

Civilian: 139
Military: 456

* * *

To: Galdania

Believe me, if you pull a stunt like that again, there will be nothing more than nuclear wasteland left of your nation.

-Fenris

* * *

Twenty Tomahawk (sp?) Cruise Missiles were readied and launched at the Galdanian Ship. Inaddition 3 submarine fleets were sent to see it was destroyed.

* * *

The 'Alpha' Site, home to 200 long range ICBM's, is being armed.

OOC: :? Well no, I didnt realise it was 3000 people or so...

IC: "Roger, we can carry 160 crew members in total on seperate subs. The rest will have to wait approximately 4 hours for our carrier, the Orca to arrive with helicopters. We can provide a repair crew of 15 engineers as well... Oh, and as for a collision with your submarines, we have invented a special sonar that filters out background noise, as we had an unfortunate collision some time ago...so that is not a concern."

Meanwhile...In orbit.

A large satellite, masquerading as a communications device, suddenly appears to explode. The outer shell is blown off and two smaller satellites emerge, armed with railguns. The satellites rapidly fire electromagnetically propelled lumps of tungsten at the Halladi orbital weapons, then self destruct.

OOC: These were secret, and noone is supposed to know that they were Kanabian weapons :)

"Thank You captian, once we recieve the crew, my carrier as well as the rest of my escort group (2 Federation Destroyed, 5 E-2 subs and 5 heavy cruisers) will continue onward towards Point Bravo where the rest of Trekys middle eastern fleet is waiting."

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Since the True Directorate has asked us for help in reinstateing democracy, we are mobilizing our armies.


Hallad If you launch one nuclear weapon during this ordeal, we will strike back with nuclear weapons.

19 ICBM's are put on stand by as well as entire SLBM submarine fleets

OOC: post tomorrow, too late right now

As a member for the Pro Capitalist Alliance I will help by sending in one division of SOAR airborne marines. Tell me where to insert them.

semi-secret IC:

As Bergist's yellow alert continues to dictate the moves of the army within its borders, anti-Fenris pamphlets have begun print at presses throughout the country. With luck, these pamphlets might make their way into Hallad in an attempt to stir the public. The messages within are simple. Fenris is nothing short of a dictator. While some pamphlets promote the ideals of the Collectivist Party, others are distinctly pro-capitalist, meant to reach out to people of all walks of life. They ask, quite directly, that the people of Hallad aid in the removal of Fenris in any way possible. They promise sovereignty and freedom of choice if Fenris is removed and assure all that the invaders will lay down their arms once the defense of the people is complete.

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To the Honorable Executor Davidson:

We, as socialist states, seek only to see to the well-being of the people. Regardless of the harsh stalinism and maoism of the past, this is not the case in Bergist. Not only are we democratic in our decisions, we came to power peacefully and without any bloodshed. We do not dispute control the right of the capitalists to run the country at this point. It was the choice of the people. What we dispute is the right of a dictator to control the country. If Fenris were to either reinstate the parliment and the Halladi electoral process, or to step down in favor of a candidate with less tyrannical views, the party itself might remain in full control of the country. We do not disagree with that sort of system ruling the country, we disagree with that type of man. Thank you.

President Joseph Garrett,
President, U.S.S.B.
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Hallad, give me locations for a landing of some sort. I need somewhere to get land forces in, and plenty of supply for them.

The People's Republic condemns the mass slaughter of civillians being instigated by the Communist nations. They are obviously worried that the people of Hallad will find capitalism to be a more appealing choice than communism. Surely if communism were as great as they say it is, the people of Hallad will freely choose communism. This great level of concern on their part suggests they wish to stamp out capitalism, lest there own people discover its beauty and choose to elect themselves a capitalist government.

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The Shildonian carrier group is moved into a position from which it can interdict the Communist supply lines, while trying to remain far enough away from the enemy fleets to allow for a decent amount of warning of any attack.
The Aerial Battle Force begins deploying to Hallad (ideally to an airfield a fair distance inland). The Nimrods being deployed will provide radar coverage of the locations of the assembling Communist fleets, allowing the aircraft to take action to try and dodge their radar coverage, low level flying will be used if neccessary. 8 fully armed F-52s (which for the benefit of the hard of thinking are large aircraft, based on the B-52 airframe[hence the designation] which carry large numbers [50+] of air-to-air missiles to provide an escort capability on long range missions that normal fighters would be unable to do. I know they aren't particularly manouverable, but there's nothing else that can do the job adaquately. Be sure to read this bit carefully, as almost every time I use them some idiot pops up and declares them to be impossible.) which will be able to provide a degree of cover against enemy fighters.

"...thank you for that report, and now we are going live to President Robert Davis' press conference regarding the Hallad situation here on Fox News. There has been much speculation over what position the President will take on this situation. As you know, the President has long declared his support for capitalism and democracy, but it will be interesting to see what he thinks of the current situation. He's at the podium now, just outside his private summer home in Richmond. He'll return to the capital of River City later this week. Let's listen."

"My fellow citizens of the Confederate States of Stone River. As you are no doubt well informed by now, a war of immense proportions has erupted over the new capitalist government in the nation of Hallad. As I speak, several communist nations have sworn to oust this government, which has begun to take shades of a dictatorship. They tell us they are only interested in restoring democracy in Hallad. Honorable as this intention sounds, I have every reason to believe that this is simply an act of 'nation-building' on the part of these nations. It only seems too convenient that these nations would oppress the people of Hallad by forcefully restoring a government to power that was rightfully ousted from power through a free and open election.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is increasingly obvious that these nations are only concerned with restoring the false ideals of communism to a nation that has outright rejected them. This is in effect, the reverse of the 'domino effect' that was a concern of free capitalist nations during the 1950s and 1960s. The communists fear that if one nation turns to the shining light of capitalism, other nations will do the same, and the communist dream of world domination will never come to pass. So, they now fight to prevent that first domino from falling. They fight to drag Hallad back to the infinite darkness of communism.

Already in this conflict, we have seen the true face of communism. The Halladi capital was raveged by a blatant attack on civillians by this communist alliance. The perpertrators have knowingly and deliberately violated the rules of the Geneva Convention. War crimes of this nature cannot be tolerated by the world community.

Therefore, I now announce that Stone River supports the rightful and legitimate capitalist government in Hallad, and denounces the rogue government that incorrectly calls itself the 'True Directorate.'

With that said, I'll take questions at this time."

"Fox News, will the Stone River military become involved in this conflict?"

"We are determining whether it is necessary at this point. We must heavily analyze this situation before we dedicate our military personnel. Next?"

"CNN, does this not contradict Stone River's dedication to democracy?"

"The alternative in this situation would be a communist government, and a communist democracy is no democracy at all. Next?"

"MSNBC, do you encourage the capitalist government of Hallad to restore democracy?"

"Certainly I do. We hope that we can reach a resolution that will give us the best of both worlds. That is all the time we have. Thank you all for attending."

A man who has clearly lived through his fair share of stress takes the podium. His hair, though snow white, has not receded in the slightest, the deep etched lines that have begun to cover his aging visage, only serve to strengthen his character and make him appear more distinguished. He wears a finely crafted suit, gripping the podium before him firmly, standing erect. Jospeh Garrett cleared his throat softly before beginning his speech to the people gathered before him.

"Brothers, sisters, good morning to you all. I come before you today to clarify and speak on the actions the United Socialist States of Bergist are taking in concern with the situation developing in Hallad. To be blunt, it's happening again. As we saw in the attacks that ravaged our capitol not all that long ago, the aggression of both communist and capitalist nations spirals out of control when placed in the same theatre. Our capitalist cousins decry us as monsters. A fundemental misunderstanding of our system of government as caused us to be grouped among the dictatorial regimes of other countries." The old man's eerily blue eyes flare with passion as his fist comes down on the podium. "We must make it known to the international community that democracy and socialism may thrive within the same country, and not one as the antithesis of the other. And it must be understood that capitalism and democracy are not synonymous terms. As soon as government robs the voice from the people, it has overstepped its bounds. For this is more than just a matter of one regime. It is a matter of establishing the basis for capitalism-communist relations in the future. It is a matter of uniting the two ideologies for the common good of all, not for the good of the government or for the elite. We see no good at this point in harming the people to make a statement of distate for the current ruler of Hallad. This is counter-productive. At best, if we were to succeed, we would give the more vehement capitalist nations a reason to further destroy our stance as a peace-loving, open nation. Yet know, my friends, if war comes to our doorstep once more, we will be ready. I promise you this. Questions?"

A man wearing the armband of a BNN reporter raises his hand. "Do you believe the situation in Hallad will affect your re-election chances in the coming months?

Garrett gave a soft dry chuckle, a smile playing at his thin lips. "I doubt it will hurt my chances at all. I have no intent of running for re-election in the next term."

A murmur of surprise echoes through the crowd as the question why is asked.

To this Garrett simply smirks and waves a hand. "I'm an old man." With this he retreats away from the podium and is surrounding by both reporters and bodyguards.

The Halladi government has officially re-instated Parliament.

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"Sir, many of our orbital weapons just went down."

"What?"

"Something attacked them. We have three left (out of 15)."

"Damn, inform Fenris."

"Yes, sir."

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OOC: The red outlined area is there hallad touches the ocean.

I do not like dictatorships but I know were this is going the communist are going to take over and make it a communist dictatorship. I have seen this happen. I will prepare 500,000 miltary units to beat back the rebels. I will contribute 1 billon to the war effort.

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Statement released by the office of Fure Calere Damog Atenkruf:
It is with distress that I have followed the events regarding Hallad.
Being a capitalist country ourselves, we are naturally pleased when a nation
embraces the same ideals of self-determination. However, the actions since
taken by the premier, Mustafa Fenris, have been entirely against those ideals.
It is in my opinion that Mr. Fenris' actions have served to enrage his
political opponents, both from within his country and from without, and to
further prove to them, at least in their minds, the rightness of their
cause.

I also can only deplore the call to arms among many other nations over this
situation. Particularly disturbing are the threats of nuclear force from both
sides. And for what? Capitalism and communism are economic systems. They are
concerned with how wealth and means are controlled and distrubted. Are we to
go to war usings weapons of mass destruction over what is essentially about
money?

I am gratified to learn that Mr. Fenris has reinstated his country's
parliament. It is my prayer that this is the start of cooler heads prevailing
on this issue.

*the People's republic of Ralaad enters the war on the side of Hallad*
President Wolf Reyne steps up to the podium.
"my fellow citizens of Ralaad, we cannot stand by while our allies in hallad are being murdered by nosy pigs who wish to control the way we govern ourselves! I'm asking you, members of Parliament, for an official declaration of war against the enemies of Hallad! Though we cannot do much, maybe our forces will be enough to help push back these oppressors, and let us keep our freedom, for if they try to control the manner in which we govern ourselves, then we are not truly free."

The democratic Soviet Union of Resistencia will enter the war to support our ally Hallad. We are moving the 2nd Naval Task Force under the command of Vice Admiral Jonathan Dinapoli. They are headed to the area as we speak.

Secret ICs:[code:1:700b82f823]Resistencia, suggest we commit forces jointly. Your forces maintain position. We will send third, fourth and fifth strike fleets to assist.[/code:1:700b82f823] (OOC: Will post these forces when I can find the damn things, lol)

[code:1:700b82f823]All allied nations, please report areas suitable for landing of large air forces in the area.[/code:1:700b82f823]

Given President Fenris' shameful capitulation in re-installing the parliament of Hallad, King George I of Mestionian has ordered all Mestionian and Azerian forces en route to Hallad to turn back and return to Mestionian. The Great King of Mestionian will not support a leader that so readily capitulates with communist scum.

-Lord Ertu, Steward of Azerian, youngest son of George I of Mestionian
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"Admiral Kirk, how bad is it?" asks the president

"were doing better sir, the part of our forces that were destroyed, their survivors, have been picked up. We have 2 operational flight decks as well as 3 hangers with all supplies." replies Admiral Kirk

"Good, and are you meeting up with the rest of our forces there?" asks the president

"Yes, in fact i've moved them to international watters, we will be arriving there in 1 hour sir." says Admiral Kirk

"Good, i'm putting you in charg eof the newly made Hallad Strike Fleet" says the president

"Thank you sir" says Kirk

OOC: Just so you guys know, Ralaad isn;t me, he's a friend. :D

BTW trekys, did the like 5 fleets i send ever reach you?

IC:

We thank Yugolsavia for their support, and hope their forces can reach Hallad quickily to prepare our defense.

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Do not worry my forces are already being put into your territory with your premison of course.

You, of course, have our permission.

How exactly does having two flight decks work? Do they run parrallel to one another (in which case they'd probably be reffered to as being the same flight deck), or is one on top of the other (which begs the question "How do you land on the lower deck?)

OOC: Just so you guys know, Ralaad isn;t me, he's a friend. :D

BTW trekys, did the like 5 fleets i send ever reach you?

IC:

We thank Yugolsavia for their support, and hope their forces can reach Hallad quickily to prepare our defense.

OOC: thats a REALLY good question hallad........lol just post saying they were staying hidden from radar, and are awaiting orders to attack or soemthing, ocne u say that, i'll post saying we see u or something lol

How exactly does having two flight decks work? Do they run parrallel to one another (in which case they'd probably be reffered to as being the same flight deck), or is one on top of the other (which begs the question "How do you land on the lower deck?)

OOC: you know on carriers, they have the command decks to the right of the flight deck? well my command decks thing is in the middle of the ship and the ship is spread out. so theres one flight deck on one side and another on the other. and the way it makes four is that it take 2 hours for the flight decks to extend out and when the flight decks are extended, the ship cannot move

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Vice Admiral Jonathan Dinapoli stood on the bridge of the RSS Italia, the flagship of Resistencia's 2nd Naval task Force. He had just ordered his men to lower the engines and stay in position.

They were soon going to be joined by naval forces of DontPissUsOff. DPUO had been a good ally for Resistencia in the past. They had been alongside in a few prior conflicts and Admiral Dinapoli was looking forward to speaking with the DPUO commander. If they could effectively organize their fleets and work together as they had in the past, they would be a force to be reckoned with.

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---Transmission---
From: Vice Admiral Jonathan Dinapoli, RSS Italia
To: DPUO Commander
Message: We are awaiting the arrival of your fleet. Your help will be greatly appreciated. We hope our fortunes in this conflict will be good. We have worked well together in the past and we believe we will be succesful once again. We will be ready to accept you when you arrive.

Godspeed Comrades
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The fleets sent after the Super Carrier were given orders to attack.

BUMP

"Signal from WFC, sir. "Maintain EMCON and link up with Resistencian forces."
"Very good," replied Kuzashkin, Dmirtiry, Admiral of the Fleet, standing with his hands clasped behind his back on the bridge of the Orel-class CVN Alexandr Stavkin. The last time Resistencia and DPUO had worked together, it had worked well enough for his liking.He was also happy with his forces. A potent strike force was under his command.
"Contact with Resistencian shipping?"
"Established six minutes ago, comrade Admiral," reported the radioman. "Radio only. No video link yet."
"Very well. Send transmission of force strength."
"Aye sir."

[code:1:e3df25ed34]TO: Commander, REsistencian Forces
FROM: Adm. D. Kuzashkin, Commander, 4NTF
Subject: Forces
4th Naval TF

Standard Anti-surface submarine Group (6)

10 Akula-III SSN
4 Sierra-III SSN
10 Oscar-II SSGN


Standard SAG: (4)

2 Kirov-class CGN
1 Kiev-class helicopter & V/STOL carrier
8 Sovremmennyy-class CG
4 Udaloy-II-class CG
4 Neustrashimiy-class FF
6 Supply vessels


Standard CVBG: (4)

2 Kuznetsov/Orel-class CVN
1 Moskva-II CVH (also useable by Yak-141M)
1 Kirov-class CGN
5 Sovremmennyy-class CG
3 Udaloy-class CG
4 Neustrashimiy-class FF
10 supply vessels


SSBN group: (2)
6 Akula-II SSN
2 Oscar-II SSGN
3 Delta-IV/Typhoon SSBN
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The fleets sent after the Super Carrier were given orders to attack.

OOC: Ok, what was sent?

IC:

As the UST Trekys (sorry, lol rememebred i use UST not USS) neared the area where the other ships would be, he was growing more and more worried by these ships he could see of in the distance

"radioman, radio those ships again, if they don't answer, we are to assume they are hostles and begin drills for an attack" says Admiral Kirk

"aye sir, 'This is the Targas Class Super Carrier, UST Trekys, radioing to unidentified ships, please respond'" said the radioman 5 times, "No response sir"

"Radio the ships we are going to meet with, tell them were we are and that they are to preceede here at top speed" ordered the admiral

"Aye sir"said the radioman

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BUMP

My troops have landed. We have begun to prepare a small makeshift airfield as our base. Our mission is to help Shimdonia stop the communist supply lines and hunt down communist command centers.

As the pamphlets filtered slowly into Hallad, various agents and underground Collectivist Party members ensured their circulation. They were many and varied, from powerful socialist calls, to blatantly pro-capitalists pleas, but all had the same message. Rid yourselves of Fenris.

As the pamphlets made their way around Hallad, the Bergistian Psycological Warfare Division sat and watched the response eagerly. Still, they hoped to avoid the war they saw gearing up around them. They could only hope this might sway the populace in some way. Meanwhile, the remnant of the Collectivist Party that had made it to Bergist had established what was essentially a command center, in a donated Bergistian meeting hall. They monitored the situation with even more intent, and their were even rumors of making attacks within Halladi borders by these exiled citizens.

OOC: Small makeshift airfield eh? Better get that defended, unless you want it flattened.

OOC: Small makeshift airfield eh? Better get that defended, unless you want it flattened.

By makeshift, I mean it is only temporary. We need it to get a foothold in this war. Do not fear, we are not having it flattened, we are building and setting up powerfull anti aircraft guns, daily patrols by soilders and aircraft in permimeter of the airfield, patriot missle defense systems and more. The base is not going to be destroyed without a large fight.

OOC: Small makeshift airfield eh? Better get that defended, unless you want it flattened.

By makeshift, I mean it is only temporary. We need it to get a foothold in this war. Do not fear, we are not having it flattened, we are building and setting up powerfull anti aircraft guns, daily patrols by soilders and aircraft in permimeter of the airfield, patriot missle defense systems and more. The base is not going to be destroyed without a large fight.

Oh, and if I have not mensioned earlier that I am in this war on the pro-capitalist side.

OOC: I guessed :lol:

President Kotovesky's Speech

"It is with a sense of righteousness that I come before you today, citizens of Kanabia, my comrades, my people. The results of yesterdays referendum are in. 78% of you voted supporting military action to restore democracy in Hallad, and 66% supported activating the reserves. I am confident that we as a nation have made the right decision, and the people of Hallad, who remain our friends and allies, will soon rejoice as to the removal of the dictator Fenris. We must stride forth with a renewed"...(the speech continues on)

Airforce Arms Depot no.234, Township of Buni.

Uther Berngeist walked up to the the main gate leading into the depot. He was a recent immigrant (He had only been in the country for 4 years), but had found gainful employment with the KIS (Kanabian Intelligence Service) only a month after his arrival, and doubled as a medical intern in a rural hospital. Due to him not being a native Kanabian, he was often mistaken for a foreigner. While this could sometimes be in his favour, it could also be a pain, as he was about to discover for the 1000th time.

The guard at the gate looked up at Berngeist as he approached, and smiled. "I'm sorry comrade, but the arms depot is closed to tourists. If you are interested in aircraft or the like, the aviation museum in Buni has some for display..."

"I'm with the KIS."
"Your ID?"
Berngeist flashed his ID card, and the guard smiled and waved him through. He walked in the front enterance, and entered the office of the Depot manager, an aging lieutenant.
"Can I help you?"
Berngeist presented the lieutenant with a sheet of paper, stamped and signed by some higher-ups in the KIS, and the President himself. The lieutenant quickly read the form and looked at Berngeist in surprise.
"They're activating the mothballed equipment? All of it?"
"Not all, but a fair portion...maybe the rest will come later."
"Some of this stuff is 50 years old, from when I was a pilot!!!"
"But there's a lot of it, correct?"
"Well, I'll show you..."
The lieutenant led Berngeist into one of the warehouse buildings, and he was greeted with the sight of hundreds of partly disassembled fighter aircraft, from A4 Skyhawks, to MiG-23's....And the pride of the depot, as the lieutenant so eloquently put, approximately 50 updated MiG-29's. And this was but one such depot...

Breaking News

Some Liberal Democracy Party supporters have flocked to the streets nationwide in protest to the choice to militarily intervene in Hallad. Others, however, support the removal of the dictator, and would rather side with the government and support democracy. The party apparatus is split as to what policy to follow...

(OOC: the LDP is only a minor party, attracting approx. 6% of the vote. It is by no means the national opposition.)

Military Mobilisation

2 million reservists are to be raised to active duty in 2 months.

After this time period, if more are required and the nation is faced with a massive war, the remaining 40 million may be raised in increments.

After recent devopments in Hallad the "People's Congress of Louisiana has issued the following:

A vote of 97% of the total Congress has approved mobilization of some 19,360,000 regular Red Troops & also the mobilization of an additional 2 million Red Guard(Reserve)Troops.

Speaker of the Congress Mr. Rye had the released the following statement.

We are not mobilizing just against capitalism, we are mobilizing to rid Hallad of this dictator. If Hallads people choose capitalism and their electorial process was keep the same then we would have no problum with the new government. As you know we have many close capitalist allies. We are just tired of the capitalist scum helping Hallads dictator calling this an invasion against capitalism and nothing else.

Ground troops are now being brought into Hallad onboard RT-1707 transport planes, using the same tactics used to infiltrate the Aerial Battle Force, only now that the smaller and more manouverable Demeter-class fighters have a base nearby they can be used to escort them in, rather than using the larger F-52s, which are now being used as part of the CAP protecting Hallad.
The transports are bringing in 1500 troops from the Majin Light Infantry Regiment, as well as additional ordanance and spare parts for the aircraft. Once they land, they will be divided into 8 man patrols and sent to set up camoflagued OPs a short distance inland from the Halladi coast, from which they can relay intelligence on the make-up and locations of any possible invasion force.

A strike package consisting of two Anne Coulter light bombers carrying two Yakhont-3 anti-ship missiles each, two Demeter fighters, and a single E-Centaur electronic warfare aircraft are launched to conduct an strike against the Communist fleets off the coast. The attack is timed to coincide with the transport planes attempt to break through (as mentioned above), with the hope that the confusion will help the transports break through. The Yakhont-3s will be launched from a range of 170km, the E-Centaur will attempt to jam the enemies radar, and the Demeters will defend against any air attack. The strike package will avoid flying near populated areas in Hallad, in an attempt to deny the enemy any early warning from Communist sympathisers, and at low altitude while within 300km of the enemy fleets to try and avoid being picked up on radar.

OOC: Also, so that way i can put a picture to my carrier, hes a horrible pic of it (The right side is the damaged side and when its full alowence is out, its unable to move)

http://www.zeropoke.net/Bones/Targas-Carrier.jpg

IC:
"Admiral, our ships have acknowledged our orders and are beginning to come here to help us defend" said the radioman

"Good, we might as well prepare, sound the battle stations alarm and begin to get our left flight deck out, i want us to use the two reamining flight decks" said Admiral Kirk

"Aye sir, begin Full Allowence persidures, Flight Deck 3 is to be out in 2 hours" yelled the radioman, as he was talking, the battle sirens screamed and all personal began to run to their battle stations, the 5 Subs, the 5 heavy cruisers and the 5 Federation Destroyers, as well, begin their sirens. The rest of the fleet is an hour away, and the admiral is hoping they get here fast.

Trekys, whose side are you on?

"Citizens of the Confederate States of Stone River, as your President, I call to your attention a statement made long ago by the Halladi government. This statement is particularly damaging to the communist cause, as it completely invalidates the 'supposed' point of their unholy crusade."

The Halladi government has officially re-instated Parliament.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, if the communist alliance were truly fighting purely for the liberty and democracy of Hallad, as they say they are, surely they would've ceased their senseless attacks with this recent announcement. With the reinstatement of the Halladi Parliament, Fenris has demonstrated his willingness to bring back democracy to Hallad. The communist alliance has no further reason to continue this war.

And yet, not only do they continue their unreasonable war against Hallad, they refuse to even acknowledge the truthfulness of this statement. First it was mass murder of civillians, and now a purposeful government cover-up of reliable information. Yet again, we see the true face of communism.

The communists claim they continue this war out of good intentions. There's an old saying we have here in Stone River. 'The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions.' They now completely ignore their original goals, and are fueled only by lust for conquest and domination of a capitalist government which, I reiterate, was legally, unbiasedly, and fairly chosen by the people of Hallad. The honorable claims made by this alliance are not only bogus now. They have been bogus from the very beginning. This alliance poses a clear and present danger to capitalist societys everywhere.

Therefore, at this time I deliver an ultimatum to this alliance. As I speak, several Air Force wings have been ordered to the area of conflict. I demand that the communist alliance stand down, and find a peaceful end to this conflict. If any nation that is part of this alliance purposefully and deliberately attacks the nation of Hallad, that nation will be considered an enemy of the state of Stone River, and we will respond to the actions of that nation in whatever manner we see fit. Thank you, and may cooler heads prevail in this dark hour."

"Getting closer to shore. Better get a CAP running." muttered Kuzashkin's 2IC.
"Mmm. We've enough carriers for the job at any rate." In that he was right. Two Orels and six Kuznetsovs were sitting in the very nucleus of the force, which was joining up with that of Resistencia. "Alright. Get four An-71Ms up, and eight Su-33s for each one. And have the Kirovs light their radars in cycle. Once every hour we switch emitters at random. Keep the smaller ships on EMCON for now. How good're the SAMs?"
"100% operating last I checked."
"When was that?"
"About 10 minutes ago."
"Alright. Any word from the subs?"
"Yeah, they call in once every hour or so. So far we've got them all plotted."
"Very good. Jammers?"
"Ready sir. Not lit yet of course. Want to surprise our friends."

Ships in Resistencia's 3rd naval task Force operating off the coast of Hallad

---Flagship---
Flagship - Venice Class Heavy Battleship RSS Italia
Support Craft -
7 Che' Guevara Medium Destroyers
4 Stalingrad Class Heavy Destroyers
7 Nelson Class Light Cruisers
3 Prince Class Medium Cruisers
18 Kennedy Patrol Boats
---Carrier Group 1---
Flagship - Illustrious Class Aircraft Carrier RSS Trieste
Support Craft -
6 Che' Guevara Class Medium Destroyers
2 Stalingrad Class Heavy Destroyers
4 Nelson Class Light Cruisers
6 Beluga Class Medium Supply Ships
16 Kennedy Class Patrol Boats
---Carrier group 2---
Flagship - Illustrious Class Aircraft Carrier RSS Peaceful Future
Support Craft -
4 Che' Guevara Medium Class Destroyers
3 Stalingrad Class Heavy Destroyers
3 Prince Class Medium Cruisers
4 Beluga Class Medium Supply Ships
10 Kennedy Class Patrol Boats
---Carrier Group 3---
Flagship - Spirit Class Aircraft Carrier RSS Montclair
Support Craft -
6 Che' Guevara Class Medium Destroyers
3 Prince Class Medium Cruisers
8 Beluga Medium Supply Ships
14 kennedy Patrol Boats
---Carrier Group 4---
Flagship - Spirit Class Aircraft Carrier RSS Hudson
Support Craft -
4 Che' Guevara Class Medium Destroyers
4 Nelson Class Ligh Cruisers
8 Kennedy Patrol Boats
---Supply Ships---
Falgship - Stalingrad Class Heavy Destroyer RSS Vindicator
Support Craft -
16 Beluga Medium Supply Ships
10 Narwhal heavy Supply Ships
4 Che' guevara Medium Destroyers
6 Nelson Light Cruisers
8 Kennedy Patrol Boats
---Troop Transport---
Flagship - Prince Class Medium Cruiser RSS Saviour
Support Craft -
28 Ulman Class Medium Transport Ships
12 Gargant Class Super-heavy Transport Ships
8 Che' Guevara Medium Destroyers
8 Nelson Class Light Cruisers
16 knnedy Patrol Boats
8 Beluga Medium Supply Ships
---Submarines (Operate Independently)---
12 U-224 Light Reconnaissance subs
1 U-11 Beast Class Ultra-heavy ICBM Sub RSS Titan
6 U-112 Predator Hunter/Killer Subs
3 U-42 Akula Class Nuclear Subs

The fleet has moved to link up with DPUO forces at the pre-arranged rendezvous point

[code:1:6bd1a3f39e]
---Transmission---
From: Vice Admiral Jonathan Dinapoli, Resistencia 3rd task Force
To: Admiral D. Kazhaskin, DPUO 4th naval task Force
Message: Now that our forces have joined together, we will proceed to the completion of our mission. We await your response and will then decide upon a course of action.
[/code:1:6bd1a3f39e]

[code:1:d01fa4654f]Intentions to be discussed on secure channel. Suggest your carriers move to centre of formation. Will maintain CAP until 0700 tomorrow, when you shoudl take over. Ey ukhnyem, comrades.[/code:1:d01fa4654f]

OOC: Res, Ti Forum.

So are any of the Communists going to post damages, or are you all just going to mutter something along the lines of "Marx states that Communists cannot be harmed by earthly implements, due to the collective will force of the unchained proletariat", as is so often the case with your sort.

OOC: Didn't think you'd attacked us yet. Sorry, timing cockup. Must be getting tired.

The An-71M, orbiting ninety kilometres west (OOC: arbitrary direction; until I get a map of the area I've no idea where everyone actually is relative to me) and surrounded by eight agile Su-33s, picked up four contacts, albeit weak ones, moving at high speed towards the formation. Permission to beam-sharpen was granted, and the targets identified as stealthy-ish aircraft. Six Su-33s were detached from the covering unit to attempt an intercept. Meanwhile, the An-71M's radar showed four small, very fast objects moving from the larger pair of aircraft. A message was radioed to the Fleet, and the outlying destroyer screen immediately illuminated its' own radars. The jammers were at this point taking effect despite attempts to frequency-hope to evade them. The radar range of the Antonov was cut by 33%. The four missiles were picked up some 110 Km from the carriers, 95 Km from the destroyers, by radars which were (for the tike being) unjammed thanks to repeated frequency changes. The Kirovs and carriers also lit their own ECM/ECCM systems off, reducing the effectiveness of the jammers and allowing the friendly radars to gain some of their lost radar performance back. As the missiles closed, SAMs were launched. After impacts (though technically proximity detonations) from three SA-N-7 SAMs, one of the missiles disintegrated. A second was destroyed by quick-firing artillery, but fragments killed 17 exposed crewmen and caused damage to a Sovremmenny's port ASM launchers, rendering them temporarily inoperative. A third was unable to maintain lock with its' target due to jamming and chaff. The fourth missile was destroyed within 80m of an Udaloy-class destroyer, again killing 10 men with fragments and inflicting damage upon the ASM missile boxes.

The Su-33s, meanwhile, closed on the four aircraft, and launched between them 18 AAMs, of which 6 were ARH and 12 were IRH. They also radioed back to the carrier groups requesting additional support. The Antonov picked up hazy contacts at the edge of radar range and identified these as probable enemy aircraft, warning friendly forces accordingly, but command did not decide to pursue them, instead ordering another four Su-33s to engage the enemy jamming aircraft. More and more jammers were activated to reduce the effectiveness of the enemy's jamming. The Su-33s, guided partily by the enemy's jamming, were able to close upon and launch AAMs against the two jammers.

Of the twenty tomahawk cruise missiles fired at the Galdanian Marleblanke battleship, eighteen were shot down. The other two hit the battleship, disabling it. A gaping hole was blown in the side of the battleship. It was slowly sinking into the sea. The crew evacuated to nearby ships as an engineering team attempted to stop the ship from sinking.
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OOC: Okay, nations are sending in MILLIONS of soldiers for this thing. Yugolsavia with 500,000, Communist Louisiania with 2 MILLION ,obilized reservists...and me, with more resources than anyone here, sending in fewer than 25,000.

This thing is getting too hyped up. Back in the days of the Shining War, or even in the earlier Grunge-French Invasions...those were FAR better than these superpower bloodfests.

IC: Galdanian ships in the region will be put on standby, and will only fired if attacked. Marines will continue to be stationed in The Arabian Republic, unless asked to leave by their government.

Hmm, is there anywhere on Hallad's borders that either are empty or controlled by Pro-Communist forces...? Need to know where to fly my planes in...

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A little late. :?

Statement to Stone River

Parliament does not equal democracy. In fact, It might be of interest to you to learn that even Nazi Germany had a parliament.

KIS Report (Secret, Except to Allies who will recieve a copy)

Subject: Vote Manipulation in Hallad Elections
Reliability: Almost Definite

Undercover Intelligence operatives within Shildonia and Hallad have obtained evidence indicating that subversionary tactics and vote fraud on the part of certain foreign intelligence agencies is very likely and conducted with the malicious intent of removing the True Directorate Government and replacing it with a capitalist or possibly even fascist dictatorship. Suspected nations now supporting the dictator Fenris. We believe he is under political control of such nations, and could be a key factor in the outlawing of elections within Hallad. Suggest bringing this matter to international attention in the form of an accusation against Shildonia. Naturally, we suspect that they will deny such involvement, but in the eyes of the international community their reputation will rightly be damaged.

(Underneath is the seal and name of the KIS chief)

As he made his way wearily back up to the podium, he grumbled to himself over the number of times he'd been called to make public speeches in the past few days. If only we could all just be friends, he mused with a slight smirk. Not likely. Not likely at all after this. As he reached the podium, his face became stoney and strong. He glanced out among the crowd, even focusing a silent hello at a few he recognized, before beginning his speech.

"Comrades, we cannot tolerate the situation in Hallad with good conscience any longer. Upon receiving an intelligence report, which suggests a distinct fraudulence in the election and maintained rule of dictator Fenris, and with the knowledge that he would not give up his rule to anyone else within his life time, even though the people may decree such an action, we have begun mobilizing for war." Hardly any sound of protest or surprise was made in the gathering of well over 2,000. A recent poll of the populace showed 98% disagreed with the actions of Fenris and 86% agreed with taking immediate military action. "The People's Army has begun deploying troops throughout Bergist to ensure the safety of our borders. We are committing 40,000 ground forces to the cause, as well as a sizeable naval taskforce and air support. Our comrades throughout Northern Neo Siberia have begun mobilizing troops as well. We march to war my friends. May we bring this harsh regime to end as quickly as possible."



Bergist mobilizations:

Ground Forces
35,000 Standard Infantry (made up of 1st Army Divisions)
3,000 Elite Troops
1,500 Amphibious Assualt Troops
500 Savin Mark-10 Tanks

Naval Task Force Beta
Flagship:U.B.S. Biarritz (Moroc Class Heavy Battleship)
Support Craft
2 Moroc Class Heavy Battleships
5 Bergistian Light Destroyers
7 Bergistian Cutters
3 Bergistian Light Cruisers
3 Mobile Refueling Tankers
4 Pasteur Class Hospital Ships

Air Support
15 Pave Hawk attack choppers
20 Thunderbolt support jets


**requesting airfield near Hallad to launch airstrikes from**

Trekys, whose side are you on?
I'm on the side against Hallad

IC:
"Mr.President, are you telling us that for sometime now, parliment has been reinstated in Halled?" asked a congresswomen

"Yes ma'am. Fenris has reinstated his parliment...."said the Prsident

"Well, Mr.President, even after you recieved this news, did u not try to stop our forces or move them out and consult it with us? you've been literaly running our goverment the way Fenris was governing his.........we shall vote, then it will go onto the senate, the voting will be on wheter or not we should still continue this foolish war, and your veto powers shall be taken away for this one. If it makes it passed the senate, you will have no choice but to end war. As of now, you will move the remainder of our forces into international waters. They are only to aid ships in international waters, if any ships that belong to Hallad come in, they are not to open fire unless attacked first!, do you understand me Mr. President?" asked the congress women

"Crystal, ma'am" said the president

"Good, you may go" said the congresswomen

*5 minutes later in the Presidents office*
"John, get me Admiral Kirk, i need to tlak to him" ordered the president

"Aye sir" said john, "Here he is"

"Admiral, i must order you to move your ships, as well as the ships you were going to meet out into international waters, we are not to aid in any attacks..."said the president with a depressed face

"Sir, this is a bad time, but i will order the retreat, our forces have taken a lot of damage. 6 of the 10 federation Destroyers in my escort group have been destroyed, and all of our heavy cruisers. The 2 nimitz class carriers and their escort have only taken minimmum damage and my ship......she needs ALOT of reapairing, we've lost flight deck 2, 3 and 4. we only have a main flight deck remaining." said the Admiral

"I'm sorry James, but you have to, put up the white flag and begin to pull back, also what happened to all of out transport ships?" asked the President

"lost......sir"said the admiral, hesitant

"damn......ok, it looks like we maybe out of this war, congress is....."the president was interupted

"SIR! CONGRESS VOTED, and they they voted yes to pulling out, its going to the senate, we shall know in a few hours what their desicion is" said John, the presidents aid

"DAMNIT! Admira, get out of there now," ordered the president

"YES SIR! OK men, pull up the white flag and order the retreat into international wtars" ordered the admiral, then he hung up

"John, do we know the losses?" asked the President

"No, but there where over 12,000 marines on those transport ships and those destroyers.....if they got survivors thats good, but its the amount they got that could be frightening"said John

"damn......i guss senate wants to question me?" asked Leonard McCoy, the president

"No, sir, they are going on the evidence they have" said John

"Well, atleast i can't be impeached haha..........*sigh*''said the president, putting his head on his table....

[code:1:c30222c49c]To: The alliance against the current government of Hallad. (I.e. the anti-Fenris folks.)
From: Michael Robertson, Calere Onus of the D.U.C.K.Y.

The leadership of Bergist has mentioned that there is evidence that the election of Premier Fenris in Hallad was due to fraudulent elections. We wish to view this evidence. If conclusive, we would become very troubled by Fenris' continued hold on power in that country.[/code:1:c30222c49c]

OOC:
GaldaniaOOC: Okay, nations are sending in MILLIONS of soldiers for this thing. Yugolsavia with 500,000, Communist Louisiania with 2 MILLION ,obilized reservists...and me, with more resources than anyone here, sending in fewer than 25,000.

This thing is getting too hyped up. Back in the days of the Shining War, or even in the earlier Grunge-French Invasions...those were FAR better than these superpower bloodfests.
So what if you decide to send less troops, why do you care if others do. Oh by the way, do you feel special that you have, "more resources" than everybody else. If you have a problem with an rp then don't participate, but don't complain about it and be a nuisance to everyone else. Especially when you try to tell everyone how you're better than them.

IC: "Give me a report!" shouted Vice Admiral Dinapoli at his crewmen.

"We have recieved light damage to some of our ships, we weren't ready for them," replied one of the crewmen, "they didn't hit us as hard as they hit DPUO though."

"I didn't ask for your analysis crewman, I asked for a damage report," he yelled, "that means tell me casualties and damages!"

"Yessir," replied the crewman. Another crewman responded, "two destroyers report light damage to their hulls, they only recieved glancing blows instead of a full impact. However, we have suffered a total of seventeen men killed in combat so far."

"Damn!" shouted Dinapoli. "I want all ships put on full combat alert. Those bastards aren't going to catch us off guard again. Radio to the Trieste and the Montclair and teel them to tprepare their aircraft for a counter-attack. Tell the other carriers to keep their aircraft on alert in case those people come back to try some more of their tricks."

"Yessir!" replied the crew and got to work immediately.

Vice Admiral Dinapoli walked to the front of the bridge. The war was on, it was time to see what everyone was made of.

The RSS Trieste sails towards Hallad along with the rest of the combined fleet. There has been sproadic combat between pro-communist and anti-communist forces in the region.
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"Citizens of the Confederate States of Stone River, I speak to you tonight regarding the continuinally escalating war in Hallad. I wish to respond to several developments that have occured since last I spoke to you.

First, I respond to a charge made by Kanabia attempting to debunk my previous statement regarding the restoration of the Halladi Parliament by comparing Hallad to Nazi Germany. May I point out to my Kanabian counterparts that the capitalist government of Hallad has not commited any crimes against humanity. There is no evidence of torture, raids, concentration camps, or mass murder. In fact, I would like to remind the communist alliance that the only mass murder of Halladi citizens that has occured was perpertrated by a member of that very alliance.

You see, by restoring Parliament, Fenris is proving to us that he is willing to bring democracy back to the Halladi people, and we applaud him for doing so. Fenris has annoyed the communist imperialists by continually disproving their supposed motives for war. So, as has been announced by Mr. Garrett of Bergeist, they have decided to wag the dog. They now claim that the fair and honest election of Fenris was supposedly fixed and rigged so that the capitalists could illegally claim power. To this I say to the communist alliance: 'Why the hell should we start believing you now?'

Fox News, an independent and reliable source of journalism which this government has no control over, has done their own investigation into this matter. They have reported to the Stone River people that there is absolutely no truth to the claim that the election was fixed. So who are we to believe now? An independent organization that has delivered all the facts, or two-faced communists who only report what supports their illegitamate cause and conveniently overlooks everything else? As with everything they have told us, it is bunk. As has been a theme with my reports to you on this situation, we have yet again seen the true face of communism.

This latest blatant excuse for an unjust cause has prompted me to take action. I demanded an immediate stand-down of all communist forces. I have been largely ignored. So, I'm making one last up of the ante. I have deployed two of our fighter wings to the area. As of now, I have declared the nation of Hallad a 'no-fly zone' for all communist aligned aircraft. These fighter wings will begin making patrols over this no-fly zone effective immediately. Any communist alliance military aircraft which enters this zone will be hailed on the radio and ordered to leave. If that aircraft fails to respond to the hails, or refuses to obey our command, it will be considered a hostile aircraft and will be dealt with as such.

Again, I implore this communist alliance to stand down. I offer that we begin negotiations with Fenris so that we can come to a resolution that will satisfy everyone. If democracy in Hallad truly is your ultimate goal, then by all means prove me wrong and follow my advice. Continiung this senseless conflict will only dig a deeper hole for you to climb out of. I have made the offer, it's all up to you now."

**************

Forces now in Hallad

The 57th Fighter Wing
30 F-15 Eagles
3 KC-135 Tankers

The 58th Fighter Wing
30 F-16 Fighting Falcons
3 KC-135 Tankers

The 10th Radar Support Group
8 E-3 Sentrys (w/rotating Radar dome)

Private- Sargent, when are we to be shipped out?

Sargent- When we get commands from General Gaspard.

OOC: Shildonia did puppetwank in the election thread, and got the entire Anti-Communist Alliance to do the same. My IC response to this is that accusation...therefore, the result of the election was indeed illegitimate.

IC:

President's Public Statement of Condemnation against Stone River

The Government of Stone River has labeled us as imperialists. Well, we as a nation know better. They have also labeled us as proponents of war crimes. We would like to inform them that the actions of Galdania do not reflect upon our policies of avoiding civilian casualties, which we actively pursue and is the reason behind our slow involvement into this conflict. They also should not reflect upon the goals of the International, of which Galdania is not a member. We wish to assist a people that have for so long been our allies from oppression being forced upon them by the puppet dictator Fenris.

Puppet dictator, you ask my comrades? Yes, In actual fact, we are certain that the intelligence agencies of the Anti-Communist Alliance, specifically Shildonia, manipulated the votes in the Halladi election for their own benefit- The exploitation of the people of Hallad. They are clearly the true imperialists here, only wanting to exploit the citizens for their own gain. The government of Stone River has also tried to discredit our intelligence agency with investigations from their corporate media- an organisation known as Fox News, renowned for their blatant political bias. It is also interesting to note that many of the corporate minds behind this "fair and balanced" media organisation now have stakes and investment in the economy of Hallad. Surely, they are only interested in lining their own pockets by supporting the new government and won't listen to the facts.

Stone River also believes our media are under direct control of the government. This is untrue. Our journalists are not the mouthpieces of government, or private vested interests for that matter. They are bound by only one code- to remain fair and objective in all of their reporting...if their reporting causes criticism of the government, well that is healthy in any democracy and essential for bringing problems to our attention.

Stone River continues to push their point that parliament equals democracy. Once again, we state that parliament does not automatically equal democracy. A parliament can be operational without elections, and has done so in history many times. Fascist nations are good examples.

Finally, Stone River has offered to hold negotiations to come to a peaceful resolution to prove we are truly for democracy. Well, we accept, and our sole demand from Fenris is that elections take place as soon as humanly possible, without any form of foreign interference. Let the people decide the true government to represent the people, and do not let your party participate in vote meddling...or else, we have no choice but to become militarily involved.

We await his reply.

Goodnight, Comrades.

OOC: Sorry guys, didn't have a chance to get on the past few days.

Trekys: just read back I posted ehat was attacking you.

Kanabia, technically some of my communist allies used too, only they voted for the T.D.

Could someone fill me in?

Bergistian Support of Kanabia
Office of Foreign Affairs

The people of Bergist whole-heartedly agree with the statements made by Kanabia. Indeed parliment does not equal democracy, nor is their much of an electoral choice if Mr. Fenris does, in fact, consider himself "president-for-life". Our demands in concern with the electoral process are exactly those of Kanabias. If Fenris were to reinstate the political parties, and return to regular elections, we are sure communist pressure would lessen greatly. As Stone River flaunts with such furvor, Fenris has reinstated Parliment. It is a step. But it is a parliment with only one recognized party. T.D. and Collectivist Party members have fled the country for fear of their lives. Even if they were to return to the country, their parties are nonexistant. Fenris has a parliment in his country indeed. A parliment solely of the people who pushed him into power or who hold similar enough views not to flee the country upon his political restrictions. However, a proxy to work on behalf of Mr. Garrett would be happy to negotiate the disarmament of both communist and capitalist forces. A unilateral standdown is unacceptable. If an agreement is not reached and military intervention is deemed necessary, Bergist will march with the rest of the anti-Fenris forces. May this conflict end without anymore bloodshed.

People of Hallad, do not be intimidated by these threats of Communist nations. We will prevail in war, just as you have prevailed by returning Hallad to Capitalism.

These Communists think that they will force us to submit by force. By their Imperialist threats. But, alas, we shall remain strong. We will remain a sovereign nation, as where they would prefer us one of their puppets!

Today I come to ask something of you. I wish to ask you to defend our freedom, to fight the Communist opression. Fight these Communists who only suceeded in destroying our nation.

As of this day Hallad will officially be in a state of readyness. Factories will produce tanks, guns, and bombs to defend the Fatherland. Do not take this as agression, take the threats of "liberation" as agression.

In order to "liberate" Hallad it appears they mean to detroy it! Look back at Erse. Our great capital in ruins because of this "liberation". Look at our coastline. It has to be fortified. The Halladi Island States must go from a island paradise to war machine.

All this in the name of "liberation". Now, you must choose. Defend Hallad, or submit to foreigners!

"If the (illegitimate) Halladi 'Government' wishes to have its' factories and cities razed, then it shall be done! We will not submit to the capitalist menace, here or anywhere else! People of Hallad! If you are really pro-capitalist, if you really want this system, then demand a re-election! If the election result was genuine, then your will be done and we shall depart, for the freedom of the people is more important to us than our ideal in this case. If you do not want their system, then you will not elect them to power, and we will fight this sacred war to the finish! And if there is the slightest murmur of vote-rigging, the Halladi Government shall hang from the street-lamps!"

*The Sacred War plays under the broadcast, and is accompanied by images of tanks surging forward, artillery fire, explosions etc. At the end, the song rises in volume and power.*

http://www.imagemotel.com/uploaded/a75MeC1h.jpg

Kanabia, technically some of my communist allies used too, only they voted for the T.D.

ooc: Well, I wasn't aware but i think the accusation against shildonia makes for a more interesting RP anyway :).

Resistencia Times
Tensions Rising in Hallad
The conflict over the Hallad election crisis is on the brink of blowing up into a huge war. The pro-capitalist forces are trying to block the attempts of the communist alliance to bring about a new and fair election. Resitencia has responded along with many of our comrade nations to help preserve the freedom of the Halladi people.

The navy moved its 4th naval task force, commanded by Vice Admiral Jonathan Dinapoli to the area. They have joined up with ally DPUO to increase their effectiveness. These forces are there to take action if any war breaks out. There have been minor skirmishes between the allied combined fleet and the Shildonian air force, but there has yet to be a major battle.

At the moment tensions are very high, with both sides ready to strike at the slightest movement of their enemies. It is yet to be seen exactly how many nations will participate if this war does break out. One thing however, is clear, this war will be devastating to the Halladi people and economy.

When an election such as this is held, one does not vote as a representative of ones own nation. Instead, one votes as a citizen of the nation holding the election. When I sent the telegrams to people asking them to vote for the Capitalism Now Party, that cannot possibly be construed as an action of the Shildonian Government, if anything it is the action of a Capitalism Now Party activist within Hallad. Please explain how you will be able to link the actions of a Capitalism Now Party activist, carrying out (presumably) lawful campaigning activities to the Shildonian Government. I suspect you will not be able to do so, especially since I have not made any post stating that I would attempt to rig the vote within Hallad, and nor did Hallad make a post suggesting that there had been any vote rigging. Even the True Directorate didn't claim vote rigging had been employed.
I voted once with my main nation during the elections, and that was it. I'll admit to having puppet nations which are used primarily for espionage purposes, and for easier communications with other regions, most recently the North Zealand blockade, but they were not used to vote. Whether other members of the alliance voted more than once I do not know.
I could also point out that since you didn't RP getting any spies into Shildonia, that you are godmoding, but I'm prepared to let that go by for now.

A few points on the Yakhont-3, and anti-ship missiles in general:
1. Yakhont-3 anti-ship missiles travel at Mach 3, allowing them to cover the 170km distance within a matter of seconds.
2. Yakhont-3 anti-ship missiles have armoured warheads to protect against CIWS. It's ablative armour, as used on spacecraft with seemingly great success. Also, given their speed they would only be in range of a CIWS for perhaps a few hundreths of a second.
3. Yakhont-3 anti-ship missiles have the capability to resist jamming. Allow me to quote United Elias, the manufacturer:


Its target acquisition and homing system features high jamming immunity in active and passive jamming environment. The field of view of the missile homing head enables it to cover a group of targets and select an individual target in heavy jamming invirobment. The missile has a fully autonomous, fire-and-forget guidance system.


4. Based on the historical use of anti-ship missiles, I will give a brief rundown of the damage sustained:
HMS Sheffield - hit by a single Exocet missile, whose warhead failed to explode. She sank the following day.
MV Atlantic Conveyer - hit by two Exocet missiles, one of which may not have exploded. She sank.
HMS Glamorgan - Hit by an Exocet missile, whose warhead probably didn't explode. Despite this, she still needed to be towed back to the UK for repairs.
For comparison purposes, the Shildonian Flying Corps. are considerably better trained than the Argentinian Air Force, so the warheads will be more likely to explode, and the Yakhont-3 has a bigger warhead than the Exocet, and since they go three times faster than the Exocet, the impact damage would be considerably greater.

I also agree with Galdania that most people here are godmoding by sending millions of troops. A quick example here, again from the Falklands which is the most modern example of an opposed landing, there were about 3000 combat troops on the QE2 and however many logistics types were needed to support them, so you can see how many ships you would need just to transport the troops. Once you factor in the number of ships you'd need to keep the troopships supplied with fuel and food the number gets even bigger. You've also got to bear in mind that there's no where to drop these troops off at yet, so you would have several thousand cruise ships sitting around consuming resources and providing an incredibly inviting target for attack, since you would need a similar number of warships just to protect them against an attack, which would leave no ships to carry out offensive operations.
Resistencia seems to have missed the point entirely. Galdania wasn't complaining about being outnumbered. He was complaining about people throwing reality out of the window and the way this conflict will degenerate to "I send 8 million troops to Position A", which will then probably be countered with "I send 9 million troops to defend Point A, and 12 thousand tanks to counterattack at Point B".

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Four seconds after the missiles were launched, the E-Centaur ceased it's jamming and began sprinting back to base on full dry thrust at Mach 1.1, dropping chaff and flares as it went.
As soon as the enemy Su-33s were within 140km (which means I'll almost certainly be shooting before you, since most heatseeking missiles only have a range of about 20miles, and may have some impact on the number of missiles fired), the two Demeters each fired a Cobra radar guided missile before splitting up and dropping chaff and flares themselves and sprinting back to base on dry thrust at Mach 0.8, jinking around as they went.
All of the aircraft used their rear-mounted low intensity lasers to blind some of the missiles seeker heads, and flew towards the sun, whose heat would inevitably prove more tempting than the comparitively low heat of the engines.
Most of the missiles were thrown off by the aforementioned evasion techniques, but one struck home on the left engine of the second Demeter. The pilot engaged the fire suppression systems and was able to nurse the wounded fighter back to base. Luckily, replacing the EJ-2000 engine was a fairly simple procedure, but there were now only three more spare engines available at the base, and so an encoded signal was sent via the "Shopping List" system back to Shildonia for a new EJ-2000 engine to be sent on the next available resupply flight.

OOC: Shil:
1) When the enemy aircraft were picked up by the AWACS warning was given to the fleet units. Perfectly normal procedure, since there's no good reason for anything to come that close to us otherwise. The result was radar illumination and general alert. Four AShMs versus about thirty escort ships, all with alert crews and activated SAM units, isn't an even contest.

2) Armoured how much? Armoured to withstand a few seconds' fire maybe. Armoured enough to again take fire from maybe eight or nine guns at once, plus SAMs? Not ruddy likely.

3) That says they can "resist" jamming. Agaian, check the numbers of ships. All with jammers lit off. Hell, odds are its' radar would simply giv up and switch to a backup mode.

4) I'm messed about with the figures some. We armour our ships. Not much, but enough. Added to which, not one of the missiles actually hit its' target, for the reasons above.

5) What happened to the 6 ARH AAMs? Or did they just disappear?

6) The Kirov-class ships carry the SA-N-6 SAM system, which has a max. range of about 200Km. They also carry SA-N-12, specs for which I'm finding as I go.

7) The Yakhont AShM only moves at Mach at high altitude. When sea-skimming it is restricted to Mach 2.2. Therefore it's likely that the missile would be repeatedly engaged as it approached the target ships. Again, think about the numbers. And for that matter, think about the training. Your men are better-tranined than the Argentines; mine are just as good as the Brits, using much better systems.

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IC: "Shit! Break, people!" The Su-33s fired up their jammers and broke away from the four inbound missiles. Turning away at full power and hugging the deck, they fled back towards friendly jamming. One Su-33 was destroyed, its' pilot unable to evade the missiles. Another took a near-miss that shredded the tailfins, and limped back home. The remaining two missiles were unable to maintain lock thanks to powerful jamming and chaff. The remaining three Su-33s landed safely. CAP patrols have been drastically increased, and all aircraft are now ready for action. CAPs are

OOC: *N.B. The Yak-41B is a Yak-41 with MiG-31M radar suite, D-30F6M turbofan and 4 R-37 AAMs. Very high speed but poor endurance (max. range at best cruise speed about 520Km). Designed for use exclusively from Orel-class carriers.

AND WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GET A MAP!!

OOC: I apologize for my misinterpretation of Galdania's point. I thought he was complaining about people placing so much importance on this situation. I wasn't aware he was talking about the godmodding, next time I'll read more carefully.

Damn Shildonia those are some nice missiles, you must have payed a lot of money for those. :lol:

IC:
[code:1:c970155a90]
---Transmission---
From: Combined Naval task Force
To: Shildonian Command
Message: After your attacks on our ships we have come to regard you as an enemy. Despite this, in an attempt to avoid a full armed conflict if at all possible, we shall withold any counter-attack for the moment. However, if any aircraft or naval vessels approach our ships, they will be considered attackers and be dealt with appropriately. We still hope to avoid war and come to a peaceful conclusion to the problem, but we are not afraid to use force if we are provoked. [/code:1:c970155a90]
[code:1:c970155a90]
---Transmission---
From: Flagship RSS Italia
To: Ships of Combined Naval Task Force (Resistencia & DPUO)
Message: Increase combat air patrol sorties to better defend ship positions. Keep all ships on full combat alert with weapons prepared at all times. All ships are authorized to take down any enemy aircraft that come within gun range of ships. Any aircraft flying CAP sorties are also authorized to use full force in dealing with enemies.[/code:1:c970155a90]

Before you edited your post in what I can only imagine was some halfhearted attempt to change history, one of the missiles did hit, and since I did not read your edited version I assumed that that was still the case. Evidently that it is not, due to what could quite legitmately be described as godmoding. You see, although I did not reply until today, I had actually read your post yesterday, before the editing, so your scheme seems to have failed.
As for your generic ARH missiles (would it kill you to actually provide details of the types of missiles being used rather than just spouting off a selection of acronyms in the hope it will make you look knowlegdable?) my experience of such weapons is that they are mainly designed for use against AWACS, none of which were involved in the mission. The aircraft used were smaller and much more manouverable, and didn't have their radar active, apart from when the Demeters fired their missiles, after which time there were no radars active onboard the aircraft. One must also question whether or not your aircraft would have had time to fire any missiles, given that they were in the process of retreating under fire.
It says they can resist:
heavy jamming invirobment[sic]
Presumably that last word is a typo, and means "environment", which is what this is. I'm not just lobbing a random selection of missiles around you know, I actually plan these things, though Communists never bother to appreciate the nuances of such things, and instead prefer to just claim invincibility over the lesser life forms that are capitalists. But let's not get into how capitalism is prospering while Communism lies dying in a ditch supported only by a ragtag band of students out to rebel against "The Man", both in real life and in Hallad.
Even if the missile is going at "only" Mach 2.2 (and I hasten to point out here the missile I am using is a more advanced version of the Soviet missile developed by United Elias, and a couple of other nations whose names I can't recall off the top of my head), it will still travel the distance in 0.07 seconds, plus a bit of time to accelerate. That is still quite fast.
Finally, I request that you refrain from using racist terminology such as "Brits". It is just as offensive as calling Japanese people "Japs", or Pakistani people "Pakis". The correct word is "British". You will only need to press two more keys, so it isn't exactly hard work.

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[code:1:bfeba1281e]---Transmission---
To: Combined Naval task Force
From: Shildonian Ministry of Defence

Message: You started this conflict by making aggressive war upon a sovereign nation. You started this conflict by siding with a genocidal maniac whose only wish is to stamp out the Halladi people once and for all simply because they have become dissillusioned with your evil and insidious ideology.
If you wish for a peaceful solution to this war that you started, I can only reccomend that your vessels cease all offensive operations and that you hand the individuals responsible for the genocidal attack on the Halladi capital city over to an International Court where they can face charges of genocide, making aggressive war, willful murder of civillians, willful targeting of civillian homes and businesses (that's right, the people of Hallad are now allowed to own their own businesses, no doubt it sickens you that they are now allowed to make their own way in life), and whatever other crimes they have committed that have yet to be uncovered.
If you do not withdraw your forces then it is guaranteed that your commanders will also be facing the same charges. The People of Hallad have spoken and they have chosen their leader. You must respect their wishes. They do not wish to be slaves to a decadent system of oppression any longer. You may still cling to outdated ideals of Marx, but you must accept that not everyone is as willing to do so as you are. Perhaps the day will come when your people are able to walk freely in the streets, without fear of being carted off by the secret police to face some trumped up charge of treason because they dared to complain about how their newborn child is starving to death because of the food shortages.[/code:1:bfeba1281e]

Before you edited your post in what I can only imagine was some halfhearted attempt to change history, one of the missiles did hit, and since I did not read your edited version I assumed that that was still the case. Evidently that it is not, due to what could quite legitmately be described as godmoding. You see, although I did not reply until today, I had actually read your post yesterday, before the editing, so your scheme seems to have failed.

Scheme no. I felt it a little generous to assume that FOUR missiles could penetrate a screen of at least 20 ships, all alert with their radars active and missile systems ready, especially when they know of the direction of the inbound attack and the missiles are being launched from detected aircraft.

As for your generic ARH missiles (would it kill you to actually provide details of the types of missiles being used rather than just spouting off a selection of acronyms in the hope it will make you look knowlegdable?) my experience of such weapons is that they are mainly designed for use against AWACS, none of which were involved in the mission. The aircraft used were smaller and much more manouverable, and didn't have their radar active, apart from when the Demeters fired their missiles, after which time there were no radars active onboard the aircraft.

ARH in this case denotes R-77 AAMs; I was expecting you to have a rough idea what the Flanker carries. ARH missiles are not just for use against AWACS. At least not unless the number of AWACS about has suddenly quadrupled. And it doesn't matter whether your craft had radars active. ARM and ARH are different things. And in case it escaped your notice, missiles are usually pretty agile things too.

One must also question whether or not your aircraft would have had time to fire any missiles, given that they were in the process of retreating under fire.

You think my pilots so ill-disciplined or cowardly as to simply turn and run whenever they are fired upon? Maybe I should make it clear for those who are chronologically challeneged: they broke AFTER firing their weapons. Savvy?

It says they can resist:
heavy jamming invirobment[sic]
Presumably that last word is a typo, and means "environment", which is what this is.

Argumentum ad hominem, old boy. Are you sinking so low as to simply picking at typing errors? Oh, and "knowlegdable" is a somewhat unconventional spelling last time I checked.

Even if the missile is going at "only" Mach 2.2 (and I hasten to point out here the missile I am using is a more advanced version of the Soviet missile developed by United Elias, and a couple of other nations whose names I can't recall off the top of my head), it will still travel the distance in 0.07 seconds, plus a bit of time to accelerate. That is still quite fast.

It is indeed. It's also been detected by the already-activated radar systems, from the second it left the launching aircraft, tracked by said systems, and been launched upon. The chances of an AShM, even a Yakhont, making it past a prepared defence, in such small numbers, is low. The SAM and CIWS systems on board ships are designed specifically to counter such targets. As you yourself said: I do plan these you know.

Finally, I request that you refrain from using racist terminology such as "Brits". It is just as offensive as calling Japanese people "Japs", or Pakistani people "Pakis". The correct word is "British". You will only need to press two more keys, so it isn't exactly hard work.

You're not going to preach at me, a resident of Manchester, England, United Kingdom, about that, are you?

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[code:1:d894b44b94]---Transmission---
To: Combined Naval task Force
From: Shildonian Ministry of Defence

Message: You started this conflict by making aggressive war upon a sovereign nation. You started this conflict by siding with a genocidal maniac whose only wish is to stamp out the Halladi people once and for all simply because they have become dissillusioned with your evil and insidious ideology.
If you wish for a peaceful solution to this war that you started, I can only reccomend that your vessels cease all offensive operations and that you hand the individuals responsible for the genocidal attack on the Halladi capital city over to an International Court where they can face charges of genocide, making aggressive war, willful murder of civillians, willful targeting of civillian homes and businesses (that's right, the people of Hallad are now allowed to own their own businesses, no doubt it sickens you that they are now allowed to make their own way in life), and whatever other crimes they have committed that have yet to be uncovered.
If you do not withdraw your forces then it is guaranteed that your commanders will also be facing the same charges. The People of Hallad have spoken and they have chosen their leader. You must respect their wishes. They do not wish to be slaves to a decadent system of oppression any longer. You may still cling to outdated ideals of Marx, but you must accept that not everyone is as willing to do so as you are. Perhaps the day will come when your people are able to walk freely in the streets, without fear of being carted off by the secret police to face some trumped up charge of treason because they dared to complain about how their newborn child is starving to death because of the food shortages.[/code:1:d894b44b94]

Then the solution is simple: accede to our request. We will quite happily withdraw, if the Halladis re-elect the current capitalist Government, in an election where the possibility of capitalist vote-rigging is minimised.

And by the way, do try to avoid straying from the issue. My people have enough food to eat comfortably, and walk freely all the time without the fear of being carted off by anybody, largely because the police would make sure that anyone doing any off-carting was switfly shot in the head. What's more, they walk knowing that they will not fall victim to not having enough money to buy medicines or food when they need them, and not needing to worry about high bill payments, expensive mortgage repayments, and losing their jobs simply because the company wishes to maximise profits.

"Citizens of the Confederate States of Stone River, I'm sure you all know that we have received a slightly less-than-gracious response we have received from the government of Kanabia. I'm here to once again refute horrid misconceptions and generalizations.

They particularly attack the report given by Fox News on the non-occurance of a rigged election in Hallad, simply discrediting a fair and unbiased report simply because the political ideals of Fox News conflicts with their own. I will remind you that Fox News shares the airwaves with CNN, an organization which is extremely liberal in their reporting. That does not make their news reports any less legitimate in the eyes of this government.

They also attempt to discredit Fox News because they are out to make money. I have a 'news flash' of my own in this instance. You see, it just so happens that the goal of any corporation is, ultimately, to make money. Again, a different idealology should not and is not legitimate grounds for dismissing conflicting evidence. And while the free trade and economic prosperity that will come about with a capitalist government in power in Hallad would certainly be benefical for the world economy, it is a secondary concern. Our primary concern is keeping a legitimate government in power.

Kanabia also makes a unfair generalization by saying that only Fascist nations have ever rigged voting and had a biased Parliament. Let me remind our comrades that communist nations have not been above this tactic either. There are such things as left-wing extremists, too.

However, in light of all this, we do praise the nation of Kanabia for agreeing to try to come to a peaceful resolution to this conflict. To show our good faith for their agreement to stand down, I have ended the no-fly zone patrols over Hallad. The fighter wings have also been ordered home.

At this time, I would like to outline a peace plan that I hope will satisfy all parties currently involved in the situation in Hallad. My plan has three key points:

1. An immediate cease-fire of all military forces currently engaged in Hallad.
2. Official recognition of Fenris as the legitimate leader of Hallad.
3. A fair and impartial election of a new Parliament, to be overseen by representatives of nations both supportive and in opposition to Fenris.

With this, everyone gets what they want. Humanity sees the end of a needless war. The Halladi supporters get official recognition of a capitalist government in Hallad. The Halladi opposition gets a fair election of a representative parliament. I encourage all parties to agree to the terms of this agreement so that there may be a swift and efficent return to peace in Hallad."

"This would be a perfectly acceptable conclusion to hostilities, and we will undertake to observe this and encourage any other nations involved to do so. However, recognition of Fenris as the "official leader of Hallad" will only be countenanced on the condition that elections be held within 72 hours within that nation."

A fourth term is necessary:

The official reinstatement of opposition parties. When Fenris came to power these were disbanded. With the new parliament, the state ought to officially recognize opposition parties once again. Though this may seem to be implied, it would be beneficial to state it clearly in the terms as to avoid dispute in the future.

I shouldn't have to go trawling the web to find out what the normal weapons load of your aircraft are, especially when such an act is rendered futile in most cases by the large number of home made missiles which can be carried.
ARH means Anti Radiation, Homing. Radiation in this case refers to radar. The only such air-to-air weapon of this kind I am familiar with is the Krypton, which seems rather large to be chasing a small and manouverable target such as a fighter, hence my assumption it was intended for use against AWACS, which are typically large and unmanouverable.
Missiles are not always manouverable. I would draw your attention to Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, which aren't particularly manouverable.

As I said, my missiles have a range of 140km, which is more than heatseeking missiles, which is greater than the c. 40km range of heatseekers, the Adder has a range of 90-100km.
Now since I fired first, that means your pilots have two choices:
1. Try to get close enough to fire their missiles, and as a result fly into the path of the oncoming missiles
2. Take evasive manouvers, during which time my fighters will be putting more distance between them and your fighters.
From the sounds of your post, they took option 2.

My point was not the spelling mistake, but that the missiles are capable of surviving a heavy jamming environment. You have said that this is a heavy jamming environment. I was pointing out they can survive such an environment. You're the one pointing out spelling mistakes, not me.

It doesn't matter how soon you started tracking it, the entire thing will be over in perhaps two seconds, and my ECMs will have probably gained a few tenths of a second of blindness on your part. The SA-N-6 is only good against targets above 25m, as is the SA-N-7, which is 10 metres higher than my missiles were, so there's a third of your defences negated in one fell swoop. CIWS has a range of perhaps 25km, so the missiles would only be in range for perhaps 0.009 seconds, and that's before we get into the evasive capabilities of the Yakhont-3. So there's another third of your defences left, leaving only the SA-N-12, which is modern enough to not have any details available on the internet.
To make things a little easier, I shall give you the olink (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135324&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) to the storefront selling the Yakhont-3 so you can have a look at its capabilities for yourself (it's near the end of the first post)

Meh, I'm just a white guy trying to play the race card, without much success. Seriously though it doesn't take much effort to press an additional two keys.

OOC:

When an election such as this is held, one does not vote as a representative of ones own nation. Instead, one votes as a citizen of the nation holding the election. When I sent the telegrams to people asking them to vote for the Capitalism Now Party, that cannot possibly be construed as an action of the Shildonian Government, if anything it is the action of a Capitalism Now Party activist within Hallad. Please explain how you will be able to link the actions of a Capitalism Now Party activist, carrying out (presumably) lawful campaigning activities to the Shildonian Government. I suspect you will not be able to do so, especially since I have not made any post stating that I would attempt to rig the vote within Hallad, and nor did Hallad make a post suggesting that there had been any vote rigging. Even the True Directorate didn't claim vote rigging had been employed.

However- You did get the entirety of the ACA to vote against the government of Hallad and you admit that....Now, to me that would suggest an IC or at least semi-IC conspiracy to topple the True Directorate from power. As such, due to your actions in getting them to vote, my IC response was levelling the accusation of vote manipulation. If it was truly meant to be the IC response of the Halladi people, you would have let them find the thread themselves and vote accordingly rather than encouraging them, IC or OOC to get rid of the current government and vote in one favourable to your interests. I have levelled the accusation IC, and please respond to it IC...you can deny it, but the accusation stands.


I could also point out that since you didn't RP getting any spies into Shildonia, that you are godmoding, but I'm prepared to let that go by for now.

That's a load of crap. Modern intelligence agencies have agents stationed worldwide, and i think my nation has more than ample resources to be able to fund such an effort. I could have had sleeping double agents within your ranks for some time, and I would in no way deny the possibility of yours being in my forces too...You don't have to be aware of their presence. Our nations being enemies as they are, the possibility is even more likely. I'll admit I could have perhaps roleplayed the intelligence gathering process, however it would likely have to be done in a different thread to avoid cluttering this one, and put simply, by the time that mini-RP was over, this one might be as well.

"The nation of Stone River has responded once again to our statements.

Firstly, however, I will describe how they continue to sing the virtues of their corporate media...yet they do not respond to our claim that there is clearly a conflict of interest for their media to support our cause, simply because they wish to make money. I say it is therefore completely impossible for them to remain objective and fair in this situation.

Note that while we are politically biased ourselves against such media, we do not attempt to discredit their organisation simply because it is privately owned and runs under a different ideological system. No, comrades, we discredit their efforts simply because they are wrong, and the evidence would suggest that Fox News and this supposedly "liberal" CNN are not interested in following up and uncovering a truth which may damage their reputations and profits.

Stone River believes that only a capitalist nation may have a prosperous economy. We laugh at this suggestion. We ourselves are a good example of a prosperous economy, where no citizen goes hungry, where no citizen lives in squalor, where no citizen must burn newspaper on the streets to keep warm.

Stone River also believes that we have made an unfair generalisation that "only fascist nations have ever rigged voting and had a biased parliament" and then informs us that communist nations have done the same. We would inform the leaders of this nation that nowhere did we say that only fascist nations did such....however, the communist nations that they are referring to as counter examples are no better than fascists in our eyes. We once again remind Stone River the message that we have been trying to get through for so long. Parliament, does not necessarily equal democracy, and simply because Fenris may have appointed a few family members and friends to positions of power is not cause for us to leave an allied people in the clutches of the dictator.

However, aside from my rhetoric, there is infact a cause to this speech. Stone River has stated their peace plan, which consists of three points.

1. An immediate cease-fire of all military forces currently engaged in Hallad.

We accept, on the grounds that our only forces currently in the area were several submarines evacuating allied crew members anyway. We will ask our allies to do the same.

2. Official recognition of Fenris as the legitimate leader of Hallad.

We cannot accept this, until a new election is held and Fenris is declared leader once again, in which case his legitimacy will be proven and we shall accept.

3. A fair and impartial election of a new Parliament, to be overseen by representatives of nations both supportive and in opposition to Fenris.

We accept this point wholeheartedly.

I leave you now, my comrades, may peace and democracy be restored in Hallad.

I shouldn't have to go trawling the web to find out what the normal weapons load of your aircraft are, especially when such an act is rendered futile in most cases by the large number of home made missiles which can be carried.
ARH means Anti Radiation, Homing. Radiation in this case refers to radar. The only such air-to-air weapon of this kind I am familiar with is the Krypton, which seems rather large to be chasing a small and manouverable target such as a fighter, hence my assumption it was intended for use against AWACS, which are typically large and unmanouverable.
Missiles are not always manouverable. I would draw your attention to Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, which aren't particularly manouverable.

Hmm. Bit of a mix-up there then. In my experience, ARH stands for Active Radar Homing, and ARM for Anti-Radiation missile. Sorry about the non-clarity. As for the missile: R-77, while not exactly a dogfight weapon like the R-73, is still agile enough to catch a fighter.

As I said, my missiles have a range of 140km, which is more than heatseeking missiles, which is greater than the c. 40km range of heatseekers, the Adder has a range of 90-100km.
Now since I fired first, that means your pilots have two choices:
1. Try to get close enough to fire their missiles, and as a result fly into the path of the oncoming missiles
2. Take evasive manouvers, during which time my fighters will be putting more distance between them and your fighters.
From the sounds of your post, they took option 2.

You forgot 3: Kick on the power, light off their own jammers, deploy chaff, jink like mad and/or hit the deck while heading for your aircraft. Dangerous but workable.

My point was not the spelling mistake, but that the missiles are capable of surviving a heavy jamming environment. You have said that this is a heavy jamming environment. I was pointing out they can survive such an environment. You're the one pointing out spelling mistakes, not me.

Surviving a heavy jamming environment is one thing. Survive means they don't dive into the sea. Staying locked-to-target is quite another.

It doesn't matter how soon you started tracking it, the entire thing will be over in perhaps two seconds, and my ECMs will have probably gained a few tenths of a second of blindness on your part. The SA-N-6 is only good against targets above 25m, as is the SA-N-7, which is 10 metres higher than my missiles were, so there's a third of your defences negated in one fell swoop. CIWS has a range of perhaps 25km, so the missiles would only be in range for perhaps 0.009 seconds, and that's before we get into the evasive capabilities of the Yakhont-3. So there's another third of your defences left, leaving only the SA-N-12, which is modern enough to not have any details available on the internet.
To make things a little easier, I shall give you the olink (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135324&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) to the storefront selling the Yakhont-3 so you can have a look at its capabilities for yourself (it's near the end of the first post)

I did some calculating myself. From what I see, V=D(m)/T(s). Therefore V=170,000/0.07 (your figure), which yields a speed of...well here the calculators start to argue (I tried it on two). One says 40,176 m/s and another says 2,428,571.4 m/s. Now either my calculations are very, very wrong indeed or you have there a missile that can traverse a kilometre in less than one tenth of a second.

Meh, I'm just a white guy trying to play the race card, without much success. Seriously though it doesn't take much effort to press an additional two keys.

Agreed, but I'm lazy. :P

1. An immediate cease-fire of all military forces currently engaged in Hallad.
2. Official recognition of Fenris as the legitimate leader of Hallad.
3. A fair and impartial election of a new Parliament, to be overseen by representatives of nations both supportive and in opposition to Fenris.

We will agree to these terms. There is no need for elections after less than a week after Mr. Fenris has been elected.
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Message from the office of Fure Calere Damog Atenkruf:

[code:1:cf72f874a0]I am happy to see real progress toward a peaceful resolution to the conflict over Hallad, as I am sure are the Ytovian people. My prayers are that God would grant wisdom to Mr. Fenris and the leaders of the Pro-Capitalist Alliance and the International and other involved parties in ensuring the freedom and prosperity of the Halladi people.[/code:1:cf72f874a0]

It is okay if Hallad has elections but I think to refram from needless bloodshead or for this mini cold war to come up again both sides should try to make this election fair and no foul play shall be involved. Altough for once it is nice to see a situation were there are no casualtys.

It is okay if Hallad has elections but I think to refram from needless bloodshead or for this mini cold war to come up again both sides should try to make this election fair and no foul play shall be involved. Altough for once it is nice to see a situation were there are no casualtys.

Agreed. Our forces will hold position for the time being, with orders only to return fire if fired upon. However, with the permission of whatever interim Government exists in Hallad, we would like to have them put in to a Halladi port for refuelling and resupply.

Agreed. Our forces will hold position for the time being, with orders only to return fire if fired upon. However, with the permission of whatever interim Government exists in Hallad, we would like to have them put in to a Halladi port for refuelling and resupply.

Resistencia's military forces agree to the conditions of the cease-fire. We will not comence any military operations in the area until the situation is resolved unless we are attacked first. We are very happy that this oppurtunity is being given to come to a peaceful agreement to the conflict. This is by far the best solution to the problem, allowing the Halladi people a chance to show who they truly want as their leader. This is what we all wanted from the beggining. Resistencia will accept any leader elected by the Halladi people unless there is meddling by foreign nations.

Following the recent voilence, our airfield has been attacked by the communists several times, responding to this the troops in the airfield are ordered patrol the streets of the nearby towns in Hallad to maintain order until the elections are succesfully over. in the mean time Aanamerrca will send the ASS Tirpitz (a Nimitz class carrier) escorted by the ASS Liberty (an Iowa class battleship) carrying another division of troops into Hallad. If the recent cease-fire is broken F-16 and F-15 fighter-bombers will go into bombing ANY communist city.

The government of Bergist questions the validity of these attacks. Whos forces were they? And if you are unsure, precisely how does one know they are communist? If we do not have specifics concerning the attackers, it would seem a possibility that this was a staged attack to disrupt the peace we are about to establish. And it would have seemed to work to some small level in the increase of troops set forth. Regardless, we are gladdened to know the government of Aanmericaa will continue to acknowledge and respect the cease-fire. A reminder to both our communist brethren and our capitalist friends; let no petty guerilla, warlord, or rogue government destroy the chance for communists and capitalists to settle on friendly terms. We offer the U.B.S. Biarritz, a Moroc Class Heavy Battleship, to begin negotiations upon in international waters. Do not be deceived by her class, as the Bergistian Naval Forces have always believed in providing accomidations for conferencing and diplomacy. Furthermore, she is well-armed and well-armored, so no delegate need fear for their lives when on the vessel. There is a small helicopter pad at the stern of the ship by which ambassadors may arrive. Please, regardless of your decisions on where the conference must take place, we do urge it occur soon as to maintain the peace and come to a mutual agreement soon.

Anti-Fenris forces do not have permission to enter Halladi waters, nor will they be allowed to re-fuel/resupply in Halladi ports.

Aanamericaa, you would be very ill-advised to do that.

I shall order my troops to stand down unless attacked. And the victor of the elections shall be decided by the people.

OOC: When will the new election take place? ALso, will there be a separate thread for the election?

IC:
Resistencian Government Statement
We are happy to see the elction moving along peacefully. However, we are angered by the threats of certain capitalist nations whose only interest seems to be inciting violence. Instead of trying to allow the election to continue peacefully, they try to stir up problems by threatening nations they don't even know about. We hope these threats are empty as we expect and that the election continue peacefully.

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