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Transmission intercepted from Cam III; Dreadfire....angry

Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 00:12
Taken from Cam III's regional boards:

4 hours ago
The Honourable people of Aust

Automagfreek, Cam me and Credonia are arch-enermies, we where best freinds, but does anyone here rember the Phyrric/NK war, that was a product of me + Holy Palloney vs Credonia war. Plus who'd go up against AMF?

4 hours ago
The Dark Space Empire of Cam III

Me.

4 hours ago
The Dark Space Empire of Cam III

So you don't like them?

2 hours ago
The Heavily Armed Peoples of Sephrioth

Credonia and amf my arch enemy is tior


****

OOC: Sephrioth is/has been ignored by me on general principle.

IC:

After AMF intelligence intercepted the following transmissions, they promtly handed over the recorded conversation to Lord Damien, who was most infuriated by what he read.

I am tired of being provoked into action. It seems like every other day we are rushing off to protect an ally of ours from people like you. I'm not going to waste my breath nor use big words, for simpletons like you may not be able to grasp what I'm saying. So hear me now: if you think you stand a snowball's chance in Hell against us, you're welcome to try. That's right, I challenge...no, dare you to attack us. I'm tired of politiking and beating around the bush, so I'm laying it on the line.

Your decision to attack The Island of Rose is completely unjustified, and now your head has inflated to the point that you feel you can take us on. Feel free, it's been awhile since I've planted legions of impaled corpses on my shores.


http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Central Facehuggeria
16-06-2004, 00:17
OOC: I smell a repeat of the Austo-Hungarian war coming up. *Grabs popcorn*

Will there be a DVD available?
Rufai
16-06-2004, 00:19
This is gonna be great!
Jordaxia
16-06-2004, 00:21
yep, it's pop-a-corn time. Well, not really. CamIII will back down, and nothing will come of it, more likely. Oh well, in the hopes of interest,
tag.
Imperial Brits
16-06-2004, 00:29
OOC: Well i have decimated Cam III in future tech, i do hope Lord Damien obliterates him in modern.
McQuaide
16-06-2004, 00:30
Daniel Sweeny, Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of McQuaide, felt he was a hard, tough man. He reasoned that his career as a KGB operative for the USSR, culminating in operations in Afghanistan and Chechnya, would have exposed him to just about everything. However, the things he had seen from the AMF shook him every time he read an intelligence brief or press release. This latest statement, subtle in comparison to many others, made Sweeny shudder. However, it seemed that, in every action by the AMF that Sweeny had followed, they had more reason than most for their actions. It was just that their methods were so... Brutal. Lethal. Absolute. Sweeny had a hard time finding the right word.

"Natali, bring in the State Minister, and some tea."

"Minister Pooler, let's get a dispatch out immediately. We encourage a diplomatic solution, and declare absolute neutrality in any possible conflict. Let's not get ourselves stuck between either side."

MINISTRY OF STATE RELEASE

The Commonwealth of McQuaide, concerned with recent developments between a number of global powers, calls for restraint and an emphasis on finding a diplomatic solution. The Commonwealth declares itself neutral in this dispute.
The Island of Rose
16-06-2004, 00:44
Official Statement from the Island of Rose:
"People want us dead for some unknown reason. Welp, time to devolop a nuclear weapons program! But Lord Damien, we ask you, the Parliament of the Island of Rose are debating why you support us. Do no take this as rude, but just satisfy our curiousity. We appreciate the support, we're just... confused."
-Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs: Roska Einvach
-Minister of War: General Roska

P.S. We're neutral.

OOC: Now for OOC comments. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang! Seriously, I've been the center of attention lately :roll: ah, this proves I have accomplished enough... of something.
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 00:46
OOC: You stretched my thread......
Tasty Foods
16-06-2004, 00:48
We support AMF in this matter. Cam III, even though we are friendly towards your nation, AMF has been an ally of the Empire for a long time, and they are fellow members of APTO.
Mekanta
16-06-2004, 01:05
Mekanta
16-06-2004, 01:06
"You are freaking kidding us..."

"We just start rebuilding thier homeworld from the Shivan invasion, and NOW look what happens..."

"They can go to hell if they want to get in trouble again. If they die off, nothing is stopping us from stripmining thier planet..."
A Few Rich People
16-06-2004, 01:14
In honor of the possible war (more than possible but can't seem eager) Mikosolf has announced it is selling commeverative T-shirts.

Come in all sized and in white, navy blue, and black.

On the front they have a small Mikosolf Logo and on the back they read:

"I saw AMF crush idiots and all I got was this lousy blood stained shirt!"
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 04:44
In honor of the possible war (more than possible but can't seem eager) Mikosolf has announced it is selling commeverative T-shirts.

Come in all sized and in white, navy blue, and black.

On the front they have a small Mikosolf Logo and on the back they read:

"I saw AMF crush idiots and all I got was this lousy blood stained shirt!"

OOC: Now that's marketing!
Tyrandis
16-06-2004, 04:50
Tyrandis requests the permission of Dreadfire to embed a camera crew with the forces of AMF.

If you will allow us to film the carnage, we will offer our assistance in logistical and medical support.

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-cloud.jpg
Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State
Hamptonshire
16-06-2004, 05:08
For a limited time only, the HDC is offering Commemorative AMF-CamIII War Frisbee, Coffee Mugs, and Paper Weights.

Order now and receive a AMF Destroyed My Homeland and all I got was this Card! Greeting Card and a free Legions of Impaled Corpses Popsicle.
Dr_Twist
16-06-2004, 05:13
These Messages are rather concerning, But since i am presently busy I can’t get involved in any sense at all atm. But if i was that nation i would be Scared as right now, Also Credonia is the Allied Commander in my Present RP, so i don't think you will see him RP in this war since he is busy.

OCC: Also this is turning into an advertisement Thread :roll: Come on the Idea is very very old. Stop trying to out do each other and keep it to the Topic.
Muktar
16-06-2004, 05:15
AMF Now = Credonia in HLF Era?
Cebat
16-06-2004, 05:15
so... whens the war going to start? my nachos are getting cold...
The Island of Rose
16-06-2004, 05:17
OOC: Oh what the hell...

"Buy this commerative, 'Do I hate AMF? Of course not, he can destroy me!' T-Shirt. It has the logo on the AMF flag and on the back it has that quote. Buy it now and receive a "OMG I NOOK JOO" wristband. At the low low price of 5 Roses! Buy now! Where are we located? The basement of my mother...."
-CEO of Something Inc.: Mr. E

And so as that advertisement happened, the house was raided and the man was arrested.

"Since the T-Shirts and wristbands were taken away, who wants the production rights for 10 Roses?"
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:21
AMF Now = Credonia in HLF Era?

OOC: I can't help the fact that

A: I have a shitload of friends and allies, and I've defended every single one that has been attacked (cause for most of my aggression lately)

B: That there are those that think they can challenge me after all the "examples" I've made.

Automagfreek has been fighting wars for a very long time. By this time last year, we had already participated in WW4, and WW5 was already brewing (we also participated in that war). AMF has always had stong convictions to it's friends and allies, and does not abandon them in their time of need. This thread is the result of me saving my ally The Island of Rose from destruction, and this thread would not exist if TIOR was not attacked.
The Island of Rose
16-06-2004, 05:24
OOC: And I thank you for that help, oh and if you want to show off an IGNORE cannon:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3316370#3316370

Eh? Okay no more advertisments now...
Dr_Twist
16-06-2004, 05:26
AMF Now = Credonia in HLF Era?

OOC: I can't help the fact that

A: I have a shitload of friends and allies, and I've defended every single one that has been attacked (cause for most of my aggression lately)

B: That there are those that think they can challenge me after all the "examples" I've made.

Automagfreek has been fighting wars for a very long time. By this time last year, we had already participated in WW4, and WW5 was already brewing (we also participated in that war). AMF has always had stong convictions to it's friends and allies, and does not abandon them in their time of need. This thread is the result of me saving my ally The Island of Rose from destruction, and this thread would not exist if TIOR was not attacked.

OCC: Does that mean u would come to my aid if I was Invaded? You have never made that clear to me even though our History goes back a long way....? I Think the reason why you are still annoyed at me is because I still have strong relations with RF and the RBA.
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:27
OCC: Does that mean u would come to my aid if I was Invaded? You have never made that clear to me even though our History goes back a long way....? I Think the reason why you are still annoyed at me is because I still have strong relations with RF and the RBA.

OOC: If it was a situation that you and your allies could not handle, I would help you.
Muktar
16-06-2004, 05:28
OOC:
Actually, you can help the fact you have a sh~tload of friends and allies, and you can help how you react to them being invaded. You could easily just settle for aid.
You can't control other's actions directly, but you could prevent some attacks by being less of a (remember this is OOC) warmongering blowhard. Just my two cents.
Dr_Twist
16-06-2004, 05:29
OCC: Does that mean u would come to my aid if I was Invaded? You have never made that clear to me even though our History goes back a long way....? I Think the reason why you are still annoyed at me is because I still have strong relations with RF and the RBA.

OOC: If it was a situation that you and your allies could not handle, I would help you.

OCC: Thats good news ill send u a TG Shortly about this Post.
Crimmond
16-06-2004, 05:36
OOC: Let me put it this way, simply and straight forward:

At no time in my history here on NS was I EVER stupid enough to take on AMF, even when we were enemies. Sure, I glared across the globe at him and were involved in wars he was in, but messing with the Freeks is a good way to alter your nation's landscape and peoples smashed.

I really find it hard to believe players aren't dumb enough to take on Siri or Melkor at a finger snap, but AMF is free game. It don't make sense, he's got the APTO, the Ministry(not known of IC), the remanents of other, now defunct alliances, individual alliances...

IC: What an interesting thing. That there are those that willingly and knowingly cross The Destroyer. Sure, it's a standard military tactics test to devise a way to win a war against AMF(for extra points, find something that intimidates Dreadfire), but none of us are suicidal or stupid enough to actually try...

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Lieutenant General Rammar Santiana
Warlord of Czekloslovokian Marine Garrison
Mekanta
16-06-2004, 05:37
-OOC-

I'm really tempted to have Mekanta challenge AMF to an arm wrestling contest as a joke... ^_^
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:37
OOC:
Actually, you can help the fact you have a sh~tload of friends and allies, and you can help how you react to them being invaded. You could easily just settle for aid.
You can't control other's actions directly, but you could prevent some attacks by being less of a (remember this is OOC) warmongering blowhard. Just my two cents.

Several points:

A: Aid is no good if their country is about to be overrun.

B: Aid does not send a message, "don't fuck with AMF or it's allies".

Here's several IC points:

A: AMF is a die hard, imperialistic + militaristic state. It feeds off of war, and Damien will not hesitate to slaughter anyone who opposes him. He does not see it as warmongering, but more or less as his duty to purge the heathens from the face of the earth. His tactics are brutal and absolute, and we all have seen the results: compliance. The world needs more Damien's...more leaders who take the initiative against evil.

Now you may be saying, "AMF is one evil mother f..... himself". That is true, Damien believes that the only way to fight evil is with evil, and nobody can make him think otherwise.
Muktar
16-06-2004, 05:42
OOC:
So your country is a bloodthirsty regime lead by a narrowsighted zealot who can only think outside the box when it comes to military tactics?
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:43
OOC:
So your country is a bloodthirsty regime lead by a narrowsighted zealot who can only think outside the box when it comes to military tactics?

OOC: Almost, but he always thinks outside the box, adapt and overcome in every scenario. And he's not narrowsighted, he's a very sharp individual.
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:44
OOC: Let me put it this way, simply and straight forward:

At no time in my history here on NS was I EVER stupid enough to take on AMF, even when we were enemies. Sure, I glared across the globe at him and were involved in wars he was in, but messing with the Freeks is a good way to alter your nation's landscape and peoples smashed.

I really find it hard to believe players aren't dumb enough to take on Siri or Melkor at a finger snap, but AMF is free game. It don't make sense, he's got the APTO, the Ministry(not known of IC), the remanents of other, now defunct alliances, individual alliances...



OOC: *hails Crimmond*










*hails again*
Crimmond
16-06-2004, 05:46
OOC:
So your country is a bloodthirsty regime lead by a narrowsighted zealot who can only think outside the box when it comes to military tactics?OOC: I prefer to call Damien a psycho with a huge military. That's just me though.

Also... *is hailed* :D
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 05:54
I really find it hard to believe players aren't dumb enough to take on Siri or Melkor at a finger snap, but AMF is free game.

OOC: Sorry to go back to this post, but here is a TM I saved awhile back between Melkor and myself concerning a possible RP together:

The Imperial Dominion of Melkor Unchained
Received: 16 days ago

Sounds like fun to me. Given that you're one of the few powers I ICly consider to be close in influence to me, I've found it vaguely disappointing that we've had so little IC interaction beyond the coalition war and that Metus thing [thanks btw :P].

Any details yet or will this primarily be a 'ah, fuck it, let's just wing it' sort of thing?
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 14:49
Bump
Phyrric
16-06-2004, 15:11
"Very interesting...." Pyrrhus thinks to himself. "An opportunity might be present here to go knock around some friends of Aust, an old score that Phyrric is one up on would be more than happy to go for round two. Send a message to Damien that if he requires assistance in this matter, we would be more than happy to oblige."

OOC: This is not something you really desire there AMF, Aust...and his allies that I can tell from experience, do not provide much fun, a reason I exited the campaign, numberwanking got out of hand. You think RF was bad, try that one for measure, it will bring back memories for you. But I am always willing to give someone a second shot at the title..so to speak. Just say the word and I will assist ya.
Sarzonia
16-06-2004, 15:15
I really find it hard to believe players aren't dumb enough to take on Siri or Melkor at a finger snap, but AMF is free game. It don't make sense, he's got the APTO, the Ministry(not known of IC), the remanents of other, now defunct alliances, individual alliances...

[OOC: I think I know why people don't take on Siri or Melkor but want to go after AMF. Because AMF is such a warmonger and makes such a show of intimidation and is so widely acknowledged as a uberpower, people seem to consider him like the ultimate status symbol. Take on (and beat) AMF and you set yourself up as a superpower in your own right. Sort of like what happened after the U.S. withstood Great Britain after the War of 1812: Countries around the world sat up and took notice because the puny U.S. stood up to and withstood the world's greatest superpower at the time.

It's like Ric Flair used to say in his heyday: To be the man, you've gotta beat the man.

I think there's little doubt that AMF and I would be on opposite sides if I were ever involved in a war with him, but I'm not stupid enough IC to try him. I'm also not experienced enough with the RP here to try it out.]
Shinoxia
16-06-2004, 15:25
A Message from James O'Kelly, High King of Shinoxia

While Cam III seems to have stopped thinking when he thought of defeating you, if you decide to attack you would be smart to keep the slaughter from the other nations' borders.


May the Road Rise to Meet You
Dumpsterdam
16-06-2004, 15:59
Dumpsterdam
16-06-2004, 15:59
From the beaches of the Mexica Union Lord Rift switches his spy satalite network to face the AMF.

"So hard to pick, so many interesting wars going on...."

He decides to put the war for the Island of the Rose on recording and watches this instead, he munches on his popcorn as he watches wat AMF is up to.
Automagfreek
16-06-2004, 18:21
"Very interesting...." Pyrrhus thinks to himself. "An opportunity might be present here to go knock around some friends of Aust, an old score that Phyrric is one up on would be more than happy to go for round two. Send a message to Damien that if he requires assistance in this matter, we would be more than happy to oblige."

OOC: This is not something you really desire there AMF, Aust...and his allies that I can tell from experience, do not provide much fun, a reason I exited the campaign, numberwanking got out of hand. You think RF was bad, try that one for measure, it will bring back memories for you. But I am always willing to give someone a second shot at the title..so to speak. Just say the word and I will assist ya.

OOC: Hmmmm...alright, thanks for the heads up. If there is even a hint of godmoddery, I'll promptly fire the IGNORE cannon.

IC:

Lord Damien does not want to deprive you of some revenge, therefore you are more than welcome to participate should war erupt.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p968858.jpg
The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires
Cam III
16-06-2004, 19:00
Right, first things first: you read that whole conversation wrong. It was basicly saying that if I was provoked I would fight you, but I haven't been provoked so I haven't declared war on you. And secondly I am not scared of you.

So next time your warmongering leader wants a war find someone who wants to fight you as I do not, yet anyway.
Central Facehuggeria
16-06-2004, 20:41
OOC: You should kill him simply because of his insolent response!

Cam: Not scared of him? You, who was single handedly crushed by Imperial Brits is not scared of a nation that could crush IB like a cockroach?

I'd perfer not to deprive my depraved people of their entertainment, so please kill him AMF! :D

The above has been an OOC comment
Aust
16-06-2004, 20:55
"Very interesting...." Pyrrhus thinks to himself. "An opportunity might be present here to go knock around some friends of Aust, an old score that Phyrric is one up on would be more than happy to go for round two. Send a message to Damien that if he requires assistance in this matter, we would be more than happy to oblige."

OOC: This is not something you really desire there AMF, Aust...and his allies that I can tell from experience, do not provide much fun, a reason I exited the campaign, numberwanking got out of hand. You think RF was bad, try that one for measure, it will bring back memories for you. But I am always willing to give someone a second shot at the title..so to speak. Just say the word and I will assist ya.
OOC: Don't blame what my allys did on me, I've been teaching them to RP, if you want to attack me again, then come on I can take you. I don't mind taking on you. Also rember thats in the past, theirs a diffrent, more honourable regime.

IC: Automagfreek, we beg you noit to attack Cam, he is our delegate and we would be recuired to defenc him but it's commen sence (Ie: Knowing that i can't take you on without being hurt.) vs loyalty. Please do not put us in that situation as, out of loyalty to our ally and delegate, we would have to fight you and we would lose. We swore an oath we would protect our allys and we will, even if it means everyone in our nation is killed.

We have never been against one another, indeed we have been allys and I don't want you to have to unleash the millatary might that we have seen used before. Whats more, though you would win, we can fight back and hurt you a bit.

This is not saying that I will attack you, just that i will help Cam, as I have to to stay in honour.

OOC: Please don't crush me.
Sarzonia
16-06-2004, 21:43
OOC: Please don't crush me.

[OOC: Please, Hammer, don't hurt them! :lol: ]

Sarzonia notes the aggressive tone our former ally Cam III is taking with disappointment.

We call upon Cam III to come to their senses and remember the old saying "discretion is the better part of valour."
Sarzonia
16-06-2004, 21:44
[DP]

Damn, I wish you COULD delete messages that have been replied to.
imported_Illior
16-06-2004, 21:44
And secondly I am not scared of you.
OOC: you're not scared of him? :shock: i'm his ally and he scares me sh*tless due to the fact i've seen him decimate many forces. If someone were to go up against AMF, he'd have to Face alot of other nations that AMF is Allied with,like me for instance along withthe APTO and many other alliances, and most of them are diehard allies, Like NE.

This is a random rant and rave by an ally. please return the RP
IC:
"ahhh this oughtta be fun," the PM told himself as he grabbed alot of popcorn,"i wonder if there will be betting on this war too."
Phyrric
16-06-2004, 23:02
OOC: Now Aust, we both know what happened there in your Antarctic Region and no need to recap that I sent your region...like Iron Maiden sings "Run to the Hills"...disarray. Good Intel, capitalizing on unpreparedness, display of military might and knowledge, infiltration of weaknesses...I would be more than happy to go there and smack you around some more...and all I had was two people on my side against you and your call for defense in a region that I was invading. Who was on whos turf may I remind you? I am always willing to give someone a second chance to RP and if you are ready, say when and I will return to crush you...again.

IC: If war breaks out, count Phyrric in. TG me in the event that Phyrric is needed.
The Island of Rose
16-06-2004, 23:13
OOC: Oh AMF, now CamIII wants me dead! Hoorah! Now I'm just a political pawn in CamIII's hatred for AMF, great!
Muktar
16-06-2004, 23:24
OOC: Now that I killed my rant, just who is it that hostilities are breaking out with?
Shinoxia
17-06-2004, 02:00
OOC: Phyrric, I don't recall you ever critizing Aust and myself's ability to RP, maybe you meant some of our allies?

IC:

The nation of Aust has reminded myself and my collegues that we are duty-bound to help Cam III as he is a member of SAND.

My recomendation to Cam would be not to start a fight, but if one does break out, I will ally myself with Cam.

Unlike some of the other nations you have faced Lord Dreadfire, the warriors in the Shinoxian Armed Forces are professionals.

I'm not afraid.

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 02:09
Unlike some of the other nations you have faced Lord Dreadfire, the warriors in the Shinoxian Armed Forces are professionals.

I'm not afraid.[/i]

[OOC: Looks like someone's fixing to start a fight.

I would be scared spitless if AMF came a callin'. The only way I'd go to war with him is if he started with me or if he attacked Isselmere. Otherwise, I'm trying to stay out of harm's way.]

We note Shinoxia's provocation of Automagfreek with the utmost concern. We strongly recommend you seek a diplomatic solution.
Shinoxia
17-06-2004, 02:14
Unlike some of the other nations you have faced Lord Dreadfire, the warriors in the Shinoxian Armed Forces are professionals.

I'm not afraid.[/i]

[OOC: Looks like someone's fixing to start a fight.

I would be scared spitless if AMF came a callin'. The only way I'd go to war with him is if he started with me or if he attacked Isselmere. Otherwise, I'm trying to stay out of harm's way.]

We note Shinoxia's provocation of Automagfreek with the utmost concern. We strongly recommend you seek a diplomatic solution.

I'm not trying to start a war, but more to deter one.

The mention of Shinoxia's military is common during times of tension. While we would prefer to avoid a war with AMF, we are not afraid of them.

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia
West Scotland
17-06-2004, 02:31
West Scotland's corporations are having a field day, generating fiction, movies, hats, t-shirts, and other collectibles in the up-and-coming-but-maybe-not-war; its illegal but thriving gambling industry has also kicked up a few billion notches in lieu of the gambling going on about how many days Cam would last.

OOC - Shinoxia...good luck to you on deterring.

IC -

Automagfreek, while not officially allied with West Scotland, can expect a pledge of support from our nation and military forces. Those who attack the forces of Automagfreek can expect West Scotland forces to generate a response.

We are feeling overly generous today (OOC: Finals done; summer!) and will not seek actions against the nation of Cam or Aust, unless they attack Automagfreek, or should AMF request help (he shouldn't need to, but we will help if asked).

Shinoxia, we implore you to back down and attempt a less confrontational means of averting war. Diplomacy is better than brinkmanship, and we find it very likely you are not afraid of AMF. Yeah.
17-06-2004, 02:38
If the war starts with AMF and Shinoxia, I will have to watch. But my army is on Shinoxia's side.
West Scotland
17-06-2004, 02:49
We ask Armed Knights to change their stance, or at least to help preserve the safety of The Island of Rose, who is being threatened by Cam III - the object of AMF's wrath.
Shinoxia
17-06-2004, 04:34
I believe some are misinterpreting what I have stated.

I would prefer not to go to war with AMF, but if he attacks Cam or one of my allies, I am honor bound to defend them.

If war breaks out, I can promise Lord Dreadfire that this will not be "amature night", but something the Freeks are not used to.

I am honest when I say that I am not afraid of any nation, the number of people a country has does nothing to influence myself or my people. Shinoxians, like Freeks, are used to war, and will do anything necessary to win one.

Now, back to diplomacy...

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia
Moontian
17-06-2004, 07:10
After reading through the messages coming from the Intel Network, Moontian has these messages for the nations involved:

Mekanta: No one will be stripmining Cam III's world. Remember, I still have some ships in that system, keeping watch. If you really want to find them, look at the corona of the star. Do you want to come and play in the corona?

AMF: I would advise you to stand down. There is no need for war at this stage. Due to the fact that Cam III and Shinoxia are both members of SAND along with me, I am obligated to assist in defending them no matter what, if they were attacked. Moontian has never been a nation to turn its back on its allies, and will not start now. A warrior like yourself knows the value of honour.

AMF's allies: I know that you would take AMF's side if AMF was attacked, but what if AMF was the aggressor? I doubt that Cam III, Shinoxia or myself would strike first.

Cam III: I know, the comments were taken out of context, but you really need to concentrate on rebuilding your country right now. Don't rub AMF the wrong way.

Everyone: I suggest that we drop this. There is no need for a major conflict over certain statements that were taken out of context. That sort of thing happens all the time.

Emperor Iain "Bear" Neilson of Moontian
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 13:21
Right, first things first: you read that whole conversation wrong. It was basicly saying that if I was provoked I would fight you, but I haven't been provoked so I haven't declared war on you. And secondly I am not scared of you.

So next time your warmongering leader wants a war find someone who wants to fight you as I do not, yet anyway.


OOC: Seeing as there are no OOC tags, I'll respond to this ICly.

IC:

Your words were very simple and to the point. When asked who would stand up to us, you plainly said "me". Now, perhaps you are indeed sorry for what you've said, and now that you realize the consequences of your actions perhaps you are sorry.

If that is truely the case, then issue a formal apology to us. As far as us "warmongering", we wouldn't be in the business if it weren't for people like you.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 13:28
I believe some are misinterpreting what I have stated.

I would prefer not to go to war with AMF, but if he attacks Cam or one of my allies, I am honor bound to defend them.

If war breaks out, I can promise Lord Dreadfire that this will not be "amature night", but something the Freeks are not used to.

I am honest when I say that I am not afraid of any nation, the number of people a country has does nothing to influence myself or my people. Shinoxians, like Freeks, are used to war, and will do anything necessary to win one.

Now, back to diplomacy...

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia

When mortal men hear the word "fear", they see my face. QWhen they hear the word "destruction", they see my hand. You think AMF is equipped to handle only the weak? HA! AMF's war record is 15+ wins, 0 losses and 1 tie. Do you know where that tie came from? Our in vasion of Melkor Unchained.

We are not afraid to fight anyone anywhere, our actions have shown that. You say that a nation's size does not scare you. While the same can be said for me, if I were you I'd be afraid of what the Sentinels can do. They kill without discrimination, and even the forces of Arda found that out the hard way.

Cam III has 1 chance to publically apologize, I suggest he takes it.


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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 14:15
Cam III has 1 chance to publically apologize, I suggest he takes it.[/i]

[OOC: Goes to get the popcorn and sodas. This will be interesting!

I remind everyone who says they're not afraid of Automagfreek: Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the ability to overcome your fears. And remember: Discretion is the better part of valour.

This cleanup will be a bizzich.]
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 14:16
Aust
17-06-2004, 16:48
Right, first things first: you read that whole conversation wrong. It was basicly saying that if I was provoked I would fight you, but I haven't been provoked so I haven't declared war on you. And secondly I am not scared of you.

So next time your warmongering leader wants a war find someone who wants to fight you as I do not, yet anyway.


OOC: Seeing as there are no OOC tags, I'll respond to this ICly.

IC:

Your words were very simple and to the point. When asked who would stand up to us, you plainly said "me". Now, perhaps you are indeed sorry for what you've said, and now that you realize the consequences of your actions perhaps you are sorry.

If that is truely the case, then issue a formal apology to us. As far as us "warmongering", we wouldn't be in the business if it weren't for people like you.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
You are not the only one who had forght wars, we have also forght and won many times indeed we have never lost.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 16:53
You are not the only one who had forght wars, we have also forght and won many times indeed we have never lost.

We are well aware of that. There does not have to be war here, all we ask for is a sincere apology.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 16:54
You are not the only one who had forght wars, we have also forght and won many times indeed we have never lost.

We are well aware of that. There does not have to be war here, all we ask for is a sincere apology.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Shinoxia
17-06-2004, 17:21
I believe some are misinterpreting what I have stated.

I would prefer not to go to war with AMF, but if he attacks Cam or one of my allies, I am honor bound to defend them.

If war breaks out, I can promise Lord Dreadfire that this will not be "amature night", but something the Freeks are not used to.

I am honest when I say that I am not afraid of any nation, the number of people a country has does nothing to influence myself or my people. Shinoxians, like Freeks, are used to war, and will do anything necessary to win one.

Now, back to diplomacy...

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia

When mortal men hear the word "fear", they see my face. QWhen they hear the word "destruction", they see my hand. You think AMF is equipped to handle only the weak? HA! AMF's war record is 15+ wins, 0 losses and 1 tie. Do you know where that tie came from? Our in vasion of Melkor Unchained.

We are not afraid to fight anyone anywhere, our actions have shown that. You say that a nation's size does not scare you. While the same can be said for me, if I were you I'd be afraid of what the Sentinels can do. They kill without discrimination, and even the forces of Arda found that out the hard way.

Cam III has 1 chance to publically apologize, I suggest he takes it.


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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

While I am grateful that you have posted...numbers of victories, I don't think that was really necessary because that will do nothing to move me.

And I'm sure that these "Sentinels" are good warriors and ruthless and all, but I don't think I'm afraid of them.

Yes, I agree with you, there does not have to be a war, I am just saying that if one starts I will support Cam III.

Does he owe you an apology? Well, that is his choice, not mine.

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia
Celdrone
17-06-2004, 17:54
OOC: Man, are there a lot of these little nations that think they can take down AMF. Listen up boys and girls. There is a good reasons chipmunks don't challenge lions to fights, besides the fact that they live in two different parts of the world, though that is a big part of it, the reason is because they will get their little chipmunk asses handed to whatever else is left of them.
Tasty Foods
17-06-2004, 18:06
.::BEGIN TRANSMISSION::.
To: All nations challenging Automagfreek
From: President Roy Williams, Grand Space Empire of Tasty Foods

Message:

Foolish little insects. Do you really think you can compete with the powers of Lord Damien? Obviously you have a lot to learn. You may think you're big and tough right now, but I assure you, when the fog of war settles over your nation, you will realize how weak you really are.

.::END TRANSMISSION::.
Cam III
17-06-2004, 18:50
I do not think I can take him down, all I am saying is if he starts a fight I will retaliate.
Cam III
17-06-2004, 18:50
I do not think I can take him down, all I am saying is if he starts a fight I will retaliate.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 18:52
I do not think I can take him down, all I am saying is if he starts a fight I will retaliate.

We are well aware of that. There does not have to be war here, all we ask for is a sincere apology.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
Cam III
17-06-2004, 18:55
I wasn't the one who started this.
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 18:56
I wasn't the one who started this.

You made the comment.
Cam III
17-06-2004, 18:56
I wasn't the one who started this.
Cam III
17-06-2004, 18:57
I wasn't the one who started this.
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 19:06
I wasn't the one who started this.

Dude, just back down. It's not necessary.
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 19:06
Cam III
17-06-2004, 19:10
Calm it, yes i will back down. for now
Automagfreek
17-06-2004, 19:11
Calm it, yes i will back down. for now

So are we going to get an apology?

-Minister Hartman-
Holy panooly
17-06-2004, 19:12
Cam III, just apologize... What do you have to lose?
Wormia
17-06-2004, 19:12
While Wormia does not agree with the policies and doctrine of Automagfreek, certain aspects of history tend to lean us to favor Mr. Dreadfire in this situation.

To the delegates of Cam III, and her allies, the venerable Mr. Dreadfire is not invading your nations. He is asking for an apology that he deserves. How would you be remembered if you started a war and killed thousands, perhaps millions, only because you would not give an apology that is deserved?

Best of luck to AMF,
Chancellor George Thomas IV
Aust
17-06-2004, 19:15
Cam III apologise NOW!
Sarzonia
17-06-2004, 19:20
Apologize. For everyone's sake.
Celdrone
17-06-2004, 19:23
Secret Transmission to AMF: Our nation is small, but growing and we find that some extra land will be needed soon. As such we would like to offer to buy the lands that Cam III inhabited. Obviously this deal would only apply if Cam III was invaded by yourself. If it comes to war please think about our offer.
Cam III
17-06-2004, 19:41
OOC: I am now officialy aplogising.

IC: [code:1:ae9692e431]To: AutoMagFreek
From: Cam III
Dear AutoMagFreek,
I am sorry for what happend between our two nations and hope it will never happen again. I hope our two nations can start a friendship soon. If not I am sorry and hope that we will never meet each other again.

Deeply sorry,

Cam III.[/code:1:ae9692e431]
Imperial Brits
18-06-2004, 01:38
OOC bump
Shinoxia
18-06-2004, 03:25
I don't know if I would have apoligized like that Cam, it seems like you gave up some of your nation's pride with that transmission.

I believe a simple "I'm Sorry" would have done the job, but that is not my choice. It seems that you made your leader feel weak, but once again, it was your desicision.

Anyway, I am glad that this conflict has been resolved.

Now on to other business...

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia
Moontian
18-06-2004, 05:33
Hey, if it works, it works. Now I can concentrate on a fight on just one front.
Automagfreek
18-06-2004, 13:33
Automagfreek
18-06-2004, 13:34
Automagfreek
18-06-2004, 13:37
OOC: I am now officialy aplogising.

IC: [code:1:6b00b984d5]To: AutoMagFreek
From: Cam III
Dear AutoMagFreek,
I am sorry for what happend between our two nations and hope it will never happen again. I hope our two nations can start a friendship soon. If not I am sorry and hope that we will never meet each other again.

Deeply sorry,

Cam III.[/code:1:6b00b984d5]

We graciously accept your apology, and we are glad to hear of your reassurance that this was alll one big misunderstanding. We too hope another unfortunate incident liike this does not occur, and we look forward to building a new friendship with your nation.

Thank you.


-Minister Hartman-
Cam III
18-06-2004, 18:41
Thank you, shall we build embassy's in each others nation?
Automagfreek
18-06-2004, 19:18
Thank you, shall we build embassy's in each others nation?

Due to increased diplomatic relations around the world, our space for embassies are somewhat limited. We're currently excavating a site for more embassies, and as soon as construction is complete we wil notify you first. Thank you for the offer, we will send our embassadors to your nation at your convenience.

-Minister Hartman-
Cam III
19-06-2004, 10:15
Thank you, I will send ambbasorders(sp?) to your nation when you want.