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The Republic of Westtle has been under Communism influence during the past week. For Example many communism goverments have tried to persuade Us to move to there region or try to from alliance with us. Many of those members are communism.
What should We Do?

The Republic of Westtle - Department of State

Do Not Do It. Communism does not work. It is oppressive, and always corrupt. You will regret becoming communist. Stay a Republic. The Free people will protect you.

Become communist comrade. You never see a good communist state with out allies. Also I have some of the highest civil rights, so its not oppressive, just dont turn into a Stalinist State.

Thanks for that, I will stay a Republic.

good choice.

If anyone tries to convert you by force, we will protect you.

haha. w/e

Just try it, Louisiana. The minute you land troops with the intent to forcefully convert a nation to communism, you will have 3 million troops marching across your territory liberating the countryside.

I'll send eight million back in time. My battleship could wait if it meant defeating a communist.

Germanische, for the sake of this, seeing as he is likely modern tech, you should let me deal with it :)

I certainly will. I have not intentions of starting a war

Well, if he did it, it wouldnt really be a war. I would knock him out rather fast.

Did I say anywhere in my post about me blockadeing, attacking, prepairing for war? I dont think so. Plus, I doubt your army is eight million for the fact that no more than 5% of your population can be in the military and thats only for wartime, peace time is 2%. Now lets figure this. All of you are new nations. Together your armies would maybe equal 8 million? Compaired to my regular military is 19 million. Plus I have a very large nuclear stockpile. I would also LOVE for you to try to invade. By land or sea.. Hmm, if I go by land I wouldnt make it past the mississippi river b/c of the THOUSANDS of forts and artillary stations located along. Wait no lets go by the Gulf of Mexico. Then you will be in a small zone we call the snake pit. You are surrounded by all sides by communist allies where you wont even see the land of CL.

Thank you and have a nice night. I am now going to bed.

Louisiania, check my factbook. Look at my population. 1.6 billion. Now, lets do math. 3,000,000 divided by 1,600,000,000. That is: 0.001875, or, in other math, 0.19%. Not to mention, my army is better trained than yours. And if you used nuclear weapons on me, I use them on you. Besides the fact that my air force would eliminate half of them.

Also, if I made my military 5% of my population, that would be about 80,000,000 men.

Hmm, maybe I should revamp my military. I've had 3,000,000 men for a few months now.

Hey, America had over 10% of the population in WWII, why can't I have 8 million people. 10% of my pop. would be 46.2 million. I'd kill you.

Shall we attack communist Lousisiana?

Only if they attack first.

Communism Sucks

Any attack on Communist Louisiana will equal a declaration of war on Technocracia. Technocracia will not hesitate to crush fascism when it threatens our beloved comrades and allies of the International. Any attempt at fascist imperialism will be met by the full force of our Red Army.

We second this.

Hey, Techno, we are not Fascist Imperialsts. Maybe you can't read... But anyway, communist armies are no match for armies of the Free Peoples.

Yea ok, if you actually think that the U.S. could beat China.

Except for the fact that China is three times larger than the US. I am almost 2 times larger than you.

Alright look, In a way both Democracy and Communism are perfect governments.

I am in favor of communism, althoguh I am an American, and belive chinese rodents will over power us, here is why communism is so miss understood.

Communism usally comes to power when a nation is udner depression, major problems, forgien troubles, and so on.

Due to this, citizens are forces to proverty, which causes little civil rights and economic values. This happens becouse of finalizing the check as it is called, or making it so everyone is paid the same amount to keep the nation at its point and not drop.

Becouse of this, powerful figures rise that say they can bring joy to the nation, these people become dictators later on, and usally corrupt or highly liberal (no offence)

However, communism in its purest form, which hasn't even been formmed on modern day earth has a wealthy nation, full of fun. No differences (see Communist Party), and all citizens are at same class, more than likely above Middle Class, which makes a lot happy.

However, through looking into this myself, independant small nations that come from direct democracy are more than likely to have a better communist government than someone say like China, who has major problems int he past and has a hgih population, and needs to even things out.

Lets see america for example. Most belive that there is an anti-communist act saying no diplomacy is allowed with communist nations. This was true untill three month after the Cold War, which the word Communist Nation was changed to Dictator Controlled Nation. Due to popular belief, Cuba is not communist, it was durring world war two, but torwards the end, it became dictatorship, which was a major reason why the rule was changed quickly after Russia's fall from communism to democracy.

For democracy, it allows differnet forms of classes of citizens, there for ranging sectionalism and independantism (unknown really, this means everyone is agenst them and thier ideas). usally, these four parties form (in US case, all four have formmed)
Federalism
Rebulican
Democrat
Minority

Becouse of this, many views are formmed, and makes it hard for one party to form a government in democratic nations, making it stressful on citizens and such, however, this is a good government, and a great alturnitive to communism becouse economies grow better in this, but civil rights sometimes could fall, or not even budge. If you wish to compair Russia, China, and Cuba to Communism, and Compair America to Democracy, you are not getting the whole picture.

See Italy, Kasikstan, Australia, South Africa, Iran, Spain, Argentina, and Mexicop for different forms of the governments you knew were one things, but are mroe than you thought. It is like compairing dictatorship to cuba, you do not get the possitive issues out of it (although I am agenst dictatorship).

Same with Great Britian to Monarchy, see Italy and Spain for that (although Italy is now a democracy, it still has Monarchy around)

Just a little insight

As for force, you should never force a nation to change, except for corrupt nations of cource.

And as for these communist nations, just simpley say no, and tell them if they TM you agian wishing to change you, that you will click block. If they threaten, come to me and others who posted on here and ask them what you should do then.

Hey, Techno, we are not Fascist Imperialsts. Maybe you can't read... But anyway, communist armies are no match for armies of the Free Peoples.

To that, it depends on military funding, quality, and the people fighting

If a military full of happy commies with the best weaponry around went up agenst pot-smnoking free people with sticks and a Plaster Gang Pistol each, I think we know who inws (Crack heads of cource :lol: )

Anyways, military is not by the government style, but more of the people, technology, and masses, along with the personality of the person, who mgiht just go n00b on yeh and get soo pist they yell "Blah.....A B-2 flies over capital, blows capital to bits with nuclear bomb, so ha, you suck you damn commie."

So take that.

Also, Louisiana and Attican Empire, it seems Louisiana is larger than you, mainly becouse of hsi time being here is over yours, only here for a month? He has been here months, see the "s".

Truitt, My Population: 1.6 Billion, Louisianas: 900 million. Plus, I have been here since August. I was reactivated.

Ohh, sorry about that. Just looked at your Date Regestered, I forgot it could have gotten activated.

Sorry about that, but otherwise, forget about that.

Plus, generally, I only go to war with people whom are on my map (http://www.kuattech.com/kh.jpg)

PS: If you want to be added, PM me!!:)

um (puts on presidents hat)

"On behath of the Peoples Republic of Truitt, we will not allow our nation to become a mockery and enter an other cults map for fear of nieghbooring hostales and corruptions."

looks at paper,

thats the wrong one, but kinda same principles...

OOC: We only use our map for the sake of RP.

Westtle, do not allow yourself to be persuaded that Socialism and Communism are "oppressive and corrupt". While some nations that call themselves such are, most nations who do (OOC: On NS) are paragons of excellent civil rights. There is no reason to call yourself communist to win our friendship either. A democracy that looks after the rights of workers also commands respect.

On a side note to the others, I'm an ally of CL. Try anything and I throw my weight behind him too.

Westtle, do not allow yourself to be persuaded that Socialism and Communism are "oppressive and corrupt". While some nations that call themselves such are, most nations who do (OOC: On NS) are paragons of excellent civil rights. There is no reason to call yourself communist to win our friendship either. A democracy that looks after the rights of workers also commands respect.

On a side note to the others, I'm an ally of CL. Try anything and I throw my weight behind him too.

Any attack on Communist Louisiana will equal a declaration of war on Technocracia. Technocracia will not hesitate to crush fascism when it threatens our beloved comrades and allies of the International. Any attempt at fascist imperialism will be met by the full force of our Red Army.

And war on a capitalist nation is considered war on Magdha and the Anti-Communist Alliance.

Any attack on Communist Louisiana will equal a declaration of war on Technocracia. Technocracia will not hesitate to crush fascism when it threatens our beloved comrades and allies of the International. Any attempt at fascist imperialism will be met by the full force of our Red Army.

And war on a capitalist nation is considered war on Magdha and the Anti-Communist Alliance.

Hah. So if a capitalist nation invades a communist nation without provocation, you would throw your alliance behind it?

Be warned. The International is stronger than your alliance.

If any war with any communist nation for the reasons of power does errupt, The Peoples Republic will jump in and aid all communist governed nations that are taken into the conflect.

Also, before making a full choice on what is a better government, communism or democracy, read my post above, it does have truth in it.

If any war with any communist nation for the reasons of power does errupt, The Peoples Republic will jump in and aid all communist governed nations that are taken into the conflect.

Also, before making a full choice on what is a better government, communism or democracy, read my post above, it does have truth in it.

The solution is simple- Direct Democratic Socialism. See it isn't democracy that is the problem, but corporate control over the democracy.

OOC: As i said before, I wont RP anything of this sort with anyone who is not on my map, simply because I cannot make strategies, since I do not know what is in between the two nations, etc. With my map, nations are able to RP with each other more closely.

First of all, I had NO intentions to attack any nation. I did put "ok...w/e but that was to come after the other guy said" I think I will stay republic" Its not my fault NS's server both sucks and blows.

Steriotyping Communists is not nice. We can be peaceful people too. If we wish to, however, we can gear for war.