NationStates Jolt Archive


Rotovia sanctions

Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:07
Simple poll.
Rotovia has illegally violated Esam territory. Esam is a tiny nation that has chosen peace and not war. But they have been invaded by the warmongers in Rotovia.
Whittier has banned its citizens from trading with Rotovia. We are asking the international community to support economic sanctions against Rotovia to pressure them into withdrawing their troops from Esam.
07-06-2004, 08:10
FWS supports sanctions to stop aggression...


Added: If a people (esam) choose to be disarmed... The world should respect that choice... While I find their choice foolish, it is their choice to make. Fascian citizens have made their choice, they have decided to be armed to the teeth... Nobody goes anywhere in FWS without a firearm or two, or three...
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:12
FWS supports sanctions to stop aggression...
Diplomats from Whittier are on their way to FWS to discuss ways on coordinating pressure on Rotovia.
Celdrone
07-06-2004, 08:15
Celdrone supports the right of any nation to be disarmmed. We will help place what ever economic pressure on Rotovia that we can.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:16
Diplomats (tgs) from Whittier have arrived in the nations of Majesto and FWS to begin discussion of the Rotovia/Esam matter.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:16
Celdrone supports the right of any nation to be disarmmed. We will help place what ever economic pressure on Rotovia that we can.Diplomats are being sent to your nation to discuss the matter.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:18
A high ranking government official ( tg) has arrived in Celdrone to discuss the Rotovia issue.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:19
Meanwhile the ambassador to Rotovia has delivered a message (tg) to the nation's leader.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:29
The world is coming together against Rotovia. Now is the time for them to leave Esam.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:33
FWS has a tg.
Rotovia
07-06-2004, 08:33
OOC: Economic sanctions against little old me?
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:35
OOC: Economic sanctions against little old me?

OOC: The norm is use all nonmilitary forms of pressure before deploying armies. That means sanctions, embargoes, and diplomatic isolation.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:36
OOC: Economic sanctions against little old me?
Leave Esam at once.
Majesto
07-06-2004, 08:36
Majesto is already activly working to free Esam from the clutches of aggression and imperialism. The Great Autocracy fully supports any economic sanctions against Rotovia.
Ybronneb
07-06-2004, 08:37
We support Esam as it should not be invaded simply due to disarming. We will lend support to Esam.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:39
We support Esam as it should not be invaded simply due to disarming. We will lend support to Esam.
you have a telegram.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:40
Majesto is already activly working to free Esam from the clutches of aggression and imperialism. The Great Autocracy fully supports any economic sanctions against Rotovia.
did you get your telegram?
Rotovia
07-06-2004, 08:41
"Our Hegemony is not the concern of Whittiar or any other nation. When a possible risk arises we stamp it out before it's potential for harm is unleashed. Sanctions by your nation do not concern us"

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/17142/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:44
"Our Hegemony is not the concern of Whittiar or any other nation. When a possible risk arises we stamp it out before it's potential for harm is unleashed. Sanctions by your nation do not concern us"


The comments by Rotovia are unfortunate. Today Brezhnekov has ordered the 12th and 145th air wing division to prepare for deployment.
In light Rotovia's response, Whittier is now calling an international arms embargo against his nation.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 08:48
The Government of Falastur also condemns Rotovia's actions, and demands they remove themselves from Esam.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 08:49
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:52
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 08:52
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.

What, aren't nations allowed to dream of a utopian world now? If they make one move which is slightly unrealistic, they have to be invaded?
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:53
The Government of Falastur also condemns Rotovia's actions, and demands they remove themselves from Esam.
you have a telegram.
07-06-2004, 08:55
FWS president Hendrik Rhodes is offering to host talks on this issue to avert war and to see Rotovia peacefully exit Esam... The suggested site for the talks is at his estate in Central Province... The 80,000 acre estate with a 200,000 sq ft mansion on it... The Estate "Constantinople"... All involved parties are urged to attend... Security will be provided by a brigade from the 1st Fascist Grenadier Guards Division.


SECRET: There is also a nice bunker under the mansion in the event of any serious attack...
Falastur
07-06-2004, 08:56
The Government of Falastur also condemns Rotovia's actions, and demands they remove themselves from Esam.
you have a telegram.

As do you.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 08:57
Falastur also offers to host talks if they should be chosen to.

Or alternatively, I could go to FWS.....
Whittier
07-06-2004, 08:57
We applaud FWS efforts help seek a peaceful diplomatic resolution to this crises.
Whittier's diplomats will attend. We will send foreign minister Igor Stravinsky.
07-06-2004, 09:00
FWS foreign minister Franz Josef Joachim I will be present at "Constantinople" to help the talks.


ADDED:

FWS has prioritized what it thinks the top objectives should be.

1) Removal of Rotovia from Esam. (preferably peacefully).
2) Averting war (if possible).
3) Ensuring continued peace and prosperity for all attendees.
4) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:01
FWS can you get on YIM. My log is vetobob.
07-06-2004, 09:03
FWS can you get on YIM. My log is vetobob.


I am on yahoo right now... I have MSN messenger and Yahoo Messenger... I also have mIRC.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:05
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:05
FWS foreign minister Franz Josef Joachim I will be present at "Constantinople" to help the talks.


ADDED:

FWS has prioritized what it thinks the top objectives should be.

1) Removal of Rotovia from Esam. (preferably peacefully).
2) Averting war (if possible).
3) Ensuring continued peace and prosperity for all attendees.
4) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
These are agreeable to whittier.
Momanguise
07-06-2004, 09:05
Momanguise will gladly support sanctions against Rotovia, however, due to political differnces, I must make it clear that I will boycott any confernce hosted by Fascist White States.
07-06-2004, 09:06
Momanguise will gladly support sanctions against Rotovia, however, due to political differnces, I must make it clear that I will boycott any confernce hosted by Fascist White States.


Then you miss out on getting to see "Constantinople"... You also miss out on FWS tobacco and FWS wine... We have darn good amenities you know.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:06
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:07
Momanguise will gladly support sanctions against Rotovia, however, due to political differnces, I must make it clear that I will boycott any confernce hosted by Fascist White States.
can you get on YIM?
Majesto
07-06-2004, 09:08
The Great Autocracy will also be sending a diplomat to this conference. We fully agree with the objectives laid out by FascistWhiteStates and hope that all sides can reach a peaceful end to this conflict.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:12
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.We will not.

If the following plan were put into action, we would be satisfied:

1) Averting war.
2) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:14
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.We will not.

If the following plan were put into action, we would be satisfied:

1) Averting war.
2) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
You can avert war by persuadeing your allies in Rotovia to leave Esam.
2. What the people of Esam do is none of your concern.
Momanguise
07-06-2004, 09:16
Then you miss out on getting to see "Constantinople"... You also miss out on FWS tobacco and FWS wine... We have darn good amenities you know.

Momanguise's corn and barley is something not to be missed you know.

And sorry, no YIM.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:18
what do you have?
07-06-2004, 09:18
Then you miss out on getting to see "Constantinople"... You also miss out on FWS tobacco and FWS wine... We have darn good amenities you know.

Momanguise's corn and barley is something not to be missed you know.

And sorry, no YIM.

My people prefer tobacco and wine.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:19
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.We will not.

If the following plan were put into action, we would be satisfied:

1) Averting war.
2) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
You can avert war by persuadeing your allies in Rotovia to leave Esam.
2. What the people of Esam do is none of your concern.Bad things will continually happen to Esam if they do not form defensive forces. The will be a continual target for every nation looking to throw its weight around. And even if Esam hides under your skirt, they will still be vulnerable to terrorism. Esam will not survive unless they defend themselves.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:26
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.We will not.

If the following plan were put into action, we would be satisfied:

1) Averting war.
2) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
You can avert war by persuadeing your allies in Rotovia to leave Esam.
2. What the people of Esam do is none of your concern.Bad things will continually happen to Esam if they do not form defensive forces. The will be a continual target for every nation looking to throw its weight around. And even if Esam hides under your skirt, they will still be vulnerable to terrorism. Esam will not survive unless they defend themselves.
Then we will defend them as long as they don't aggress other nations.
Rotovia
07-06-2004, 09:28
Peace Talks: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151196
Falastur
07-06-2004, 09:29
The Government of Falastur has authorised the sending of a carrier fleet for the protection of Esam.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:30
Ryanania believes that Esam deserves whatever they get for being stupid enough to disarm. We fully support Rotovia.
It would be unfortunate if we had to invade your nation over this. It is our hope that you will do nothing military or economically to support Rotovia that would threaten coaltion troops.You don't scare us. We would be a formidable foe alone, but our entire region has a defensive alliance, so we would be far from alone, were you to attempt an invasion.
Then we suggest you stay out of this.We will not.

If the following plan were put into action, we would be satisfied:

1) Averting war.
2) Ensuring the future security of Esam... (Getting them to form defense forces)
You can avert war by persuadeing your allies in Rotovia to leave Esam.
2. What the people of Esam do is none of your concern.Bad things will continually happen to Esam if they do not form defensive forces. The will be a continual target for every nation looking to throw its weight around. And even if Esam hides under your skirt, they will still be vulnerable to terrorism. Esam will not survive unless they defend themselves.
Then we will defend them as long as they don't aggress other nations.Assuming you station defensive forces with Esam to defend them from both terrorism and conventional attacks, we will be satisfied, as it would be the same as them having their own defensive forces.

If you don't we will laugh as their nation crumbles around them.
07-06-2004, 09:31
I think Esam should at least have a National Guard or Federal Police force.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:34
I think Esam should at least have a National Guard or Federal Police force.
Agreed but it has to be a Esam decision.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 09:39
The carrier fleet has been redirected to blockade the coast of Rotovia until this situation has been resolved. They have been ordered not to fire unless fired upon or unless given permission to.

2nd Fleet consists:

2 Elessar Class Super Carriers
Aircraft Per Carrier:
- 3 E2-C Hawkeyes
- 30 F-14 Tomcats
- 20 F/A-18 Super Hornets
- 20 Archangels
- 15 ASW Sea King Helicopters
- 10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Nimitz Class Carriers
Aircraft Per Carrier:
- 20 Archangels
- 20 F/A-18 Hornets
- 20 F-14 Tomcats
- 5 E2-C Hawkeye
- 5 AC-150 Tankers
- 10 F-117 Nighthawks
1 Command Ship
4 Hellfire Heavy Cruisers
2 Hospital Ships
4 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
4 Seawolf Class Subs
4 Ohio Class SSBN's
4 Virginia Class NSSN's
25 Hover Patrol Boats
25 Pegasus Patrol Craft
2 Avenger Class Minesweepers
4 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
4 Fleet Defense Catamarans
6 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers
2 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
4 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats
2 Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 Arsenal Ships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 AOE-6 Combat Logistic Ships
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:39
For Pete's sake, I'd send advisers to train their bloody police force/ counter terrorist unit or whatever. All we want is for them to be able to defend themselves in some way.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:40
For Pete's sake, I'd send advisers to train their bloody police force/ counter terrorist unit or whatever. All we want is for them to be able to defend themselves in some way.
We agree but it must be an Esam decision.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:41
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:43
1st fleet:
8 battleships
4 aircraft carriers
12 guided missile cruisers
24 destroyers
and 12 nuclear submarines
deployed to Rotovia

2nd fleet
8 battleships
12 aircraft carriers
24 guided missile cruisers
40 destroyers
and 34 nuclear submarines
deployed to Rotovia
Falastur
07-06-2004, 09:43
The Government of Falastur has denied the Ryaninian ships access to Rotovian waters, and will continue to do so either until this situation is over, or until we negotiate a better decision for you.

Any ships attempting to enter Rotovian waters will be intercepted and redirected. Any ships attempting to run the blockade will be given sufficient warning, and will be captured if they continue in their directions.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:44
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 09:44
1st Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Groups

1 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
2 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
2 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
2 Seawolf Submarines

2nd Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Group

1 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
2 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
2 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
2 Seawolf Submarines


I dont know, 4 more where that came from :)

BTW Just reafirming that im just talking out of my ass, and im not actually sending them anywhere..
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:46
You are not within your rights to deny us access to Rotovian waters. Since a state of war does not exist between your nation and Rotovia, maritime law states that you cannot interfere with our trade with Rotovia. Our ships will continue on their courses.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 09:46
and damn, after looking at whit's fleet...

i need more carriers...or...something.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:47
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.The captains of our cargo ships have orders not to stop for any reason. As those are not your territorial waters, our ships may not be legally searched by your forces.

Besides, Rotovia is big enough to have their own guns. We don't need to supply them.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 09:49
yeah maybe if FWS or someone shady like that was engaging in trade with rotovia..then it might be understandable.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:50
arms are not allowed in.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:51
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.The captains of our cargo ships have orders not to stop for any reason. As those are not your territorial waters, our ships may not be legally searched by your forces.

Besides, Rotovia is big enough to have their own guns. We don't need to supply them.
you expressed you would give them miliary support so we cannot allwo your ships through
Falastur
07-06-2004, 09:51
Under suspicions of arms export, all Ryananian ships WILL be either redirected or searched. Any attempts to run the blockade will result in a shot across the bows of the ship in question. If they continue on their course, they will be either captured or destroyed. They have been warned, we will not fire unless absolutely necessary.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:52
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.The captains of our cargo ships have orders not to stop for any reason. As those are not your territorial waters, our ships may not be legally searched by your forces.

Besides, Rotovia is big enough to have their own guns. We don't need to supply them.
you expressed you would give them miliary support so we cannot allwo your ships throughNo we didn't. Our ships are heading for Rotovian ports, and unless you plan on sinking them, they aren't stopping. No one interferes with Ryanania's economy.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 09:52
what proof do you have that ryania is supplying weapons? Do you even have reasonable doubt?
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:54
Under suspicions of arms export, all Ryananian ships WILL be either redirected or searched. Any attempts to run the blockade will result in a shot across the bows of the ship in question. If they continue on their course, they will be either captured or destroyed. They have been warned, we will not fire unless absolutely necessary.They are already there. They have to put into port at Rotovia to resupply. We have shown no hostile intent, and we expect to be left alone.

If you strike our ships, we will retalliate in kind. The same goes for our aircraft and land routes.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 09:55
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.The captains of our cargo ships have orders not to stop for any reason. As those are not your territorial waters, our ships may not be legally searched by your forces.

Besides, Rotovia is big enough to have their own guns. We don't need to supply them.
you expressed you would give them miliary support so we cannot allwo your ships throughNo we didn't. Our ships are heading for Rotovian ports, and unless you plan on sinking them, they aren't stopping. No one interferes with Ryanania's economy.
Due to high tesniosn over Rotovia's illegal occupation of a sovering nation, all trade with that nation is banned until the crises is resolved.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 09:55
and ill shake my fist hard at falastur.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 09:57
Ryanania will continue to trade with Rotovia. We request that our ships be allowed to pass unmolested.

Oh yeah, and our cargo aircraft will be flying in and out as well.
YOur ships are subject to inspection for contraband. Weapons and other stuff are not allowed into Rotovia.The captains of our cargo ships have orders not to stop for any reason. As those are not your territorial waters, our ships may not be legally searched by your forces.

Besides, Rotovia is big enough to have their own guns. We don't need to supply them.
you expressed you would give them miliary support so we cannot allwo your ships throughNo we didn't. Our ships are heading for Rotovian ports, and unless you plan on sinking them, they aren't stopping. No one interferes with Ryanania's economy.
Due to high tesniosn over Rotovia's illegal occupation of a sovering nation, all trade with that nation is banned until the crises is resolved.You can't do that.

Ryananian Cargo ships have been redirected to ports in neighboring nations of Rotovia. They are unloading their cargos there, which will then be transported by truck to Rotovia.
Majesto
07-06-2004, 09:57
In response to all of the action in the Rotovia theater, all units enroute to Esam have been diverted to Rotivia to assist in the blockade. Forces enrote to blockade Rotovia:

2) Pernicious Class Carriers and their Fleets
- 390 aircraft
- 14 missile cruisers
- 24 missile destroyers
- 16 escort frigates
- 6 ammunition ships
- 2 oilers

5) Standard Strike Fleets
- 5 Missile Cruisers
- 10 Missile Destroyers
- 30 Escort Frigates
- 5 Ammunition Ships
- 5 Oilers

Any ships attempting to reach Rotovia will be turned away using all necessary force.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 09:58
With the situation as it stands with Ryanania, and with one of our fleets currently restricted in its movements as it attempts to deal with Ryananian ships, the Government of Falastur has ordered another fleet be sent in to effectively patrol the waters off Rotovia in which our 2nd Fleet currently is not situated.

10th Fleet:

2 Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carriers
Aircraft Per Carrier:
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers

2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers
Aircraft Per Carrier:
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters

1 Thunder Child Class Battleship
2 Saviour Class Medical Ships
4 Seawolf Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Astron Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Warspite Class SSBN
4 Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
2 Mackensen Class Battleships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 Norasia Combat Logistic Ships
6 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
4 Defiance Class Light Frigates
4 Spearhead Class
10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft
4 Thatcher Class Destroyer
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:01
Bah, we have many ways of getting our goods to Rotovia. We will not be stopped.

Our ships are going around your blockades to neutral nations, where their goods will be unloaded and moved to Rotovia by land. Our aircraft continue to fly into Rotovia outside of the range of your fleets, and our rail and truck routes remain completely free, aside form the occassional traffic jam.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:01
The 164th airborne diviision has been ordered to deploy to Esam.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:02
This is getting out of hand. I am now sending 3 of my 6 Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Groups to Rotovia. Ships have also been re-alocated to the 3 Battle groups.

each group contains:

3 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
4 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
3 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
4 Seawolf Submarines

each destroyer is armed with 6 Phalanx Anti-missle systems and a mini THRAAD anti-missle system. The Carriers each carry with them 9 P-7 (LRAACA) and 2 AWACS
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:02
And we remind all nations involved: an attack on our merchants will result in attacks on yours.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:03
This is getting out of hand. I am now sending 3 of my 6 Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Groups to Rotovia. Ships have also been re-alocated to the 3 Battle groups.

each group contains:

3 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
4 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
3 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
4 Seawolf Submarines

each destroyer is armed with 6 Phalanx Anti-missle systems and a mini THRAAD anti-missle system. The Carriers each carry with them 9 P-7 (LRAACA) and 2 AWACSOOC: Whose side are you on?
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:03
Im against this unnecisary blockade. If they start firing, Im with you.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:05
Alert level has been raised back home from Green to Yellow. Fighter planes are on patrol 24/7 with 4 shifts a day to keep the pilots on their toes. All early Warning Radar stations are busy sweeping 700 miles in every direction of them, looking for a threat.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:05
Im against this unnecisary blockade. If they start firing, Im with you.Thank you. Please watch over our merchants. We would deploy our own fleet, but we fear it would only escalate the warmongering of some people.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:06
Im against this unnecisary blockade. If they start firing, Im with you.
The blockade is necessary due to Rotovia's illegal occupation of a sovering nation.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:07
As I said, I'm here to keep the god damned peace. This blockade has nothing to do with Ryanania, and no one has any reason to beleive you are shipping illegal materials/goods to him. They are disrupting both of your economies for nothing.
Falastur
07-06-2004, 10:07
This is getting out of hand. I am now sending 3 of my 6 Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Groups to Rotovia. Ships have also been re-alocated to the 3 Battle groups.

each group contains:

3 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
4 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
3 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
4 Seawolf Submarines

each destroyer is armed with 6 Phalanx Anti-missle systems and a mini THRAAD anti-missle system. The Carriers each carry with them 9 P-7 (LRAACA) and 2 AWACS

OOC: Mind if I ask how you got all of those ships in only 2 NS years of existence?
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:07
Im against this unnecisary blockade. If they start firing, Im with you.
The blockade is necessary due to Rotovia's illegal occupation of a sovering nation.


It wasnt violent, nevertheless. No war, he offered economic aid and protection from foreign invaders. You are the unwanted police.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:07
As I said, I'm here to keep the god damned peace. This blockade has nothing to do with Ryanania, and no one has any reason to beleive you are shipping illegal materials/goods to him. They are disrupting both of your economies for nothing.
you are way too young to have that many ships.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:08
:\ thats what i get for getting this account revived.

look at my pop, this is an old account.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:08
Im against this unnecisary blockade. If they start firing, Im with you.
The blockade is necessary due to Rotovia's illegal occupation of a sovering nation.


It wasnt violent, nevertheless. No war, he offered economic aid and protection from foreign invaders. You are the unwanted police.
The Esam government has said they want Rotovia out.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:09
Is he leaving?
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:09
This is getting out of hand. I am now sending 3 of my 6 Naval Fleet Carrier Battle Groups to Rotovia. Ships have also been re-alocated to the 3 Battle groups.

each group contains:

3 Nimitz Class Carrier(Fully loaded with F/A-18 )
3 Spruance Class Destroyers
4 Ticonderoga Cruisers
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
3 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
4 Seawolf Submarines

each destroyer is armed with 6 Phalanx Anti-missle systems and a mini THRAAD anti-missle system. The Carriers each carry with them 9 P-7 (LRAACA) and 2 AWACS

OOC: Mind if I ask how you got all of those ships in only 2 NS years of existence?The Dictatorship of Pedaphiliac is a huge, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 532 million

Owned.
Macisikan
07-06-2004, 10:10
Is he leaving?

No.

"The Rotovian Government cares not for the opinion of your government, please understand that you now stand as an international recognised protectorate of Rotovia and as such will remain in submission to the divine and infalable leadership of the People's Senate"
Falastur
07-06-2004, 10:10
:\ thats what i get for getting this account revived.

look at my pop, this is an old account.

OOC: My bad, sorry. I withdraw my question.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:10
im getting cocky, excuse me.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:11
Is he leaving?

No.

"The Rotovian Government cares not for the opinion of your government, please understand that you now stand as an international recognised protectorate of Rotovia and as such will remain in submission to the divine and infalable leadership of the People's Senate"


Can I see where Esam said "Get out."
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:15
Esam
Envoy


Founded: 05 Jun 2004
Posts: 23


Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject:
OOC: I've been away for a while and without a chance to respond... let us slow this down a bit.

IC:
King Esamius I, speaking on behalf of the Royal Council:

"We view with great displeasure these recent developments and urge nations not to violate our sacred nation. We are merely a peaceful and demilitarized country, composed mainly of mountains and inhospitable landscape, completely landlocked though containing a few great lakes, and without any precious material goods."

"We are unwilling to accept Rotovian mastery and will instead focus our efforts, as we have in the past, on maintaining Esam as a nation of perpetual peace, neutrality, and progress, and tending instead of warfare to the needs of humanitarian concerns of our troubled world."
Falastur
07-06-2004, 10:15
OOC: I've been away for a while and without a chance to respond... let us slow this down a bit.

IC:
King Esamius I, speaking on behalf of the Royal Council:

"We view with great displeasure these recent developments and urge nations not to violate our sacred nation. We are merely a peaceful and demilitarized country, composed mainly of mountains and inhospitable landscape, completely landlocked though containing a few great lakes, and without any precious material goods."

"We are unwilling to accept Rotovian mastery and will instead focus our efforts, as we have in the past, on maintaining Esam as a nation of perpetual peace, neutrality, and progress, and tending instead of warfare to the needs of humanitarian concerns of our troubled world."

Tis on this thread, 4th page, a couple of posts down:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150551&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:19
In the office of High Elder Ryan XIV

"How are the merchantmen doing, Admiral Clark?" Asked the High Elder.

"They've bypassed the blockades and are unloading their cargoes in neutral nations, just as planned, sir."

"Exxcsselllent. I'm glad we can avoid having to retalliate against their merchantmen. I really hate armed conflict"
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:19
Well..I will not support Rotovia. But the fact remains that what you're doing is disrupting trade with a totally innocent country that will have some pretty harsh economic consquences from this. If hes so intent on not having the shipping be disrupted, then its a large scale thing.

We just want Ray's shipping to be left alone. He isnt shipping weapons, n00k3z or anything like that. Materials and money, etc.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:21
12 AWACS have been deployed to peer into the "neutral nations" to make sure that Ryanania ships are not off loading weapons for Rotovia. If they are we will eliminate the threat
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:23
If you first shoot without first using diplomacy, I will have to do the same. 5 F-18's have taken off and are escorting the AWACS to ray's ships. They wont harass or re-direct, just making sure.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:25
12 AWACS have been deployed to peer into the "neutral nations" to make sure that Ryanania ships are not off loading weapons for Rotovia. If they are we will eliminate the threatI bet those cargo containers all look the same, huh?
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:27
12 AWACS have been deployed to peer into the "neutral nations" to make sure that Ryanania ships are not off loading weapons for Rotovia. If they are we will eliminate the threatI bet those cargo containers all look the same, huh?
OOC: AWACS can't see through containers but we can see what's in them once they reach Rotovia or Rotovian occupied Esam.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 10:29
OOC: Well guys im out to bed. Remember, try to use diplomacy first guys, mkay? Then i wont have to risk losing a bunch of my shiney toys because i was forced to attack whittier...
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:29
If you first shoot without first using diplomacy, I will have to do the same. 5 F-18's have taken off and are escorting the AWACS to ray's ships. They wont harass or re-direct, just making sure.
AWCAS are surveillance only they have no arms but are under escort by two figthers
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:33
12 AWACS have been deployed to peer into the "neutral nations" to make sure that Ryanania ships are not off loading weapons for Rotovia. If they are we will eliminate the threatI bet those cargo containers all look the same, huh?
OOC: AWACS can't see through containers but we can see what's in them once they reach Rotovia or Rotovian occupied Esam.That all depends on where the containers are unloaded. Not even the Ryananian government knows all of the destinations of the cargo off hand, since we have a free market. You'll probably be able to see some of the cargo, but I'd wager most of it will be unloaded in warehouses. Of course once we are paid for the goods, we don't really care if you bomb them or whatever, as long as no Ryananian's are harmed.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 10:34
OOC: be back tomorrow. have to get some sleep.
Dr_Twist
07-06-2004, 10:34
Whitter i would like a link to the Thread which clearly shows the Invasion by Rotovia.?
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 10:34
OOC: be back tomorrow. have to get some sleep.Roger that. Over and out.
Iuthia
07-06-2004, 11:35
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150551&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

The first post by Rotovia on the thread.
Rotovia
07-06-2004, 14:40
"Any vessel, Military or otherwise, belonging to a nation whom may been deemed opposed to Rotovia will be sunk if it should remain in or around Rotovian Waters at or after the twelve hours deadline begining now. There will be no exceptions and no limitations to the force use to secure the soveriegn waters of our nation."

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Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 16:13
Message incoming to Rotovia:

"We cannot hold our word to defend you if you should attack first. Be peaceful, diplomacy works. Do not open fire on blockading ships, it will make this conflict much worse and im not sure if i can defend you from a full on attack from 3 huge nations.
Hogsweat
07-06-2004, 16:22
We condemn Rotovia. We will be alongside our ally Whittier with economic sanctions and embargoes.
Granzi
07-06-2004, 16:29
The Commonwealth condemns this act of blantant imperialism in the annexation of Esam. The Parliament has voted to impose economic and arms embargos on Rotovia. Unfortunantly, we will not be able to offer military assistance as our forces are deployed elsewhere. Whittier has our full support.
Chivikistan
07-06-2004, 16:31
(OOC: Gosh, I think people should slow down with all these multiple posts without response from Esam, whose country is at the centre of this. In the meantime...)

The Chivikistani Council of Administrators has today extended its trade ban to include the rogue state of Rotovia.
While Wise Administrator Madame Xchu Amberblott has expressed the nation's relief that at least some heads of the international community have conveyed their opposition to Rotovian terrorism, it is the Council's opinion that some states appear to be creating a potential war out of a voluntary disarmament, which is quite clearly absurd. Patience is urged, and Chivikistani support for the people and government of Esam is reaffirmed, with the Holy City of Senentine offering to exchange ambassadors with the Esami ( ?).
Needless to say, Rotovian sovereignty over Esam is officially rejected by Chivikistan.

Chivikistan is a state that has survived for centuries without armed forces, and finds even the attempt to coerce Esam into establishing armed forces quite offensive. Chivikistanis would not be pleased to face the backwards-thinking opposition given to the people of Esam. Chivikistan shall impress trade sanctions upon any nation that, by extension, expresses support for the enslavement or terrorising of its own unarmed populace.

-Chivikistani Council of Adminitrators.
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 16:34
I guess thats too bad since only like 3 people have any direct relationtions with me at all..these sanctions you guys talk of are pointless unless you actually TRADE with him..
Chivikistan
07-06-2004, 16:37
ooc: One's likely to struggle to maintain a frightening and technologically diverse modern economy with so few trade partners, I'd say.
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 17:12
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 17:16
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 17:19
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 17:19
"Our Hegemony is not the concern of Whittiar or any other nation. When a possible risk arises we stamp it out before it's potential for harm is unleashed. Sanctions by your nation do not concern us"

[OOC: Perhaps not, but how about a full scale embargo and an order for all Sarzonian merchant ships to avoid your territory? Consider it done.]

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia have announced one step further than economic sanctions. We have imposed a full-scale embargo against Rotovia and we call upon their government to begin an immediate and complete withdrawal from Esam.

[Secret IC to Sarzonian ships in international waters around Rotovia. Parliament has authorized us to use whatever force necessary. If a Rotovian ship even looks like it has hostile intent, you have orders to shoot on sight.]
Pedaphiliac
07-06-2004, 17:48
If sarzonian ships so much as disrupt 1 ship incoming or outgoing of rotovia, I will destroy your presence in the area.
Jordaxia
07-06-2004, 18:17
The Jordaxian government in exile is disgusted by the Rotovian action, and will gladly deploy our ships to aid in a blockade. Given our ships unconventional design, they will be most proficient at catching any ships attempting to run the blockade. Being sent from the Falasturian ports are: 20 Orca Ekranofrigates
2 Tartaros class battleplans.
These ships are likely to be the fastest ships deployed in the area.
Jordaxia
07-06-2004, 18:22
The Jordaxian government in exile is disgusted by the Rotovian action, and will gladly deploy our ships to aid in a blockade. Given our ships unconventional design, they will be most proficient at catching any ships attempting to run the blockade. Being sent from the Falasturian ports are: 20 Orca Ekranofrigates
2 Tartaros class battleplans.
These ships are likely to be the fastest ships deployed in the area.
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 18:41
If sarzonian ships so much as disrupt 1 ship incoming or outgoing of rotovia, I will destroy your presence in the area.

[OOC: I put Secret IC on that last part for a REASON. You have no clue what I transmitted TO MY NAVAL CAPTAINS.]
Sarzonia
07-06-2004, 18:45
Holy panooly
07-06-2004, 19:00
We support a trade embargo on Rotovia.
Letila
07-06-2004, 19:31
The Letilan Confederation has agreed to fight Rotovia if necessary. Just give us the signal and we will send the fleet in. It was a remarkably quick decision. We all agreed to stop Rotovian imperialism in spite of Whittier's record.

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Majesto
07-06-2004, 21:05
"Any vessel, Military or otherwise, belonging to a nation whom may been deemed opposed to Rotovia will be sunk if it should remain in or around Rotovian Waters at or after the twelve hours deadline begining now. There will be no exceptions and no limitations to the force use to secure the soveriegn waters of our nation."
Due to Rotovia's threats, the Great Autocracy has decided to enhance its presence in Rotovian waters. Majesto is dispatching one Endeavour Class Carrier and one Standard Strike Fleet into the area. Any hostile vessel or plane approaching our naval units will be fired upon.

In the event that Rotovia should fire upon a Majestoian or other coalition ship, we will be forced to declare war and seek retributiion. In preparation for such an event, the Most Supreme Dictator is activating the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Army Corps and preparing them for deployment to Rotovia.

The Great Autocracy applauds all nations that have or are planning to condemning Rotovia's actions in Esam. You are all friends of Majesto.
West Moon
07-06-2004, 21:24
West Moon again condemns the actions of Rotovia. Even if Whittier couldn't enforce a blockade on your nation, he is not the only one blockading you. You seem to have 23 nations with sanctions and embargoes against you and a few have ships that blocking your waters.
Ryanania
07-06-2004, 22:32
West Moon again condemns the actions of Rotovia. Even if Whittier couldn't enforce a blockade on your nation, he is not the only one blockading you. You seem to have 23 nations with sanctions and embargoes against you and a few have ships that blocking your waters.t doesn't matter. Trade is still getting in to his nation.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 23:01
West Moon again condemns the actions of Rotovia. Even if Whittier couldn't enforce a blockade on your nation, he is not the only one blockading you. You seem to have 23 nations with sanctions and embargoes against you and a few have ships that blocking your waters.t doesn't matter. Trade is still getting in to his nation.
I am working on fixing that.
Hamptonshire
07-06-2004, 23:12
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 23:13
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?
Falastur
07-06-2004, 23:19
To all nations who support a blockade and sanctions against Rotovia, believing it is wrong to annex nations who have sovereign rights the same as we all do, we ask you to come and join the Coalition against Rotovia. There is no necessary compulsion by joining to commit troops should a war break out, you are merely stating that you are pro-freedom and independence, and anti-Rotovian annexation. Of course, if you can commit troops should a conflict arise, we would be glad to have your support.....

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151305
Hamptonshire
07-06-2004, 23:23
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?

First of all, such statements are unnecessarily inflamatory. Secondly, the establishment of a Blockade itself is an Act of War and an intolerable limitation on the sovereign rights of a nation. Blockades also needlessly harm civilians and the economy. While sanctions and embargos are still objectionable in our opinion, they are legitimate functions of international law. As long as their is a blockade without war, the Grand Duchy will view it as illegal and illegitimate.
Whittier
07-06-2004, 23:28
This is a statement on our attempt to settle this peacefully.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3275143&highlight=#3275143
Whittier
07-06-2004, 23:30
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?

First of all, such statements are unnecessarily inflamatory. Secondly, the establishment of a Blockade itself is an Act of War and an intolerable limitation on the sovereign rights of a nation. Blockades also needlessly harm civilians and the economy. While sanctions and embargos are still objectionable in our opinion, they are legitimate functions of international law. As long as their is a blockade without war, the Grand Duchy will view it as illegal and illegitimate.
Have not seen his post that he is invading and taking over Esam by force?
Hamptonshire
07-06-2004, 23:35
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?

First of all, such statements are unnecessarily inflamatory. Secondly, the establishment of a Blockade itself is an Act of War and an intolerable limitation on the sovereign rights of a nation. Blockades also needlessly harm civilians and the economy. While sanctions and embargos are still objectionable in our opinion, they are legitimate functions of international law. As long as their is a blockade without war, the Grand Duchy will view it as illegal and illegitimate.
Have not seen his post that he is invading and taking over Esam by force?

I have seen it and read it. My argument is that until there is a declared State of War, the Embargo is illegal. The Grand Duchy condemns in the strongest terms what has occured in Esam, but one violation of International Law does not allow the violation of another International Law.
Whittier
08-06-2004, 00:10
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?

First of all, such statements are unnecessarily inflamatory. Secondly, the establishment of a Blockade itself is an Act of War and an intolerable limitation on the sovereign rights of a nation. Blockades also needlessly harm civilians and the economy. While sanctions and embargos are still objectionable in our opinion, they are legitimate functions of international law. As long as their is a blockade without war, the Grand Duchy will view it as illegal and illegitimate.
Have not seen his post that he is invading and taking over Esam by force?

I have seen it and read it. My argument is that until there is a declared State of War, the Embargo is illegal. The Grand Duchy condemns in the strongest terms what has occured in Esam, but one violation of International Law does not allow the violation of another International Law.
an embargo is not an act of war. it is an attempt to prevent a war
Hamptonshire
08-06-2004, 00:16
The Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire is at this time actively considering the establishment of a Counter-Blockade of Rotovia. The Royal Navy 7th Fleet is being readied to divert to its course should the Royal Congress vote to enact a Counter-Blockade.
You want to help them invade rape and annex a small peaceful nation that never did anything to anyone?

First of all, such statements are unnecessarily inflamatory. Secondly, the establishment of a Blockade itself is an Act of War and an intolerable limitation on the sovereign rights of a nation. Blockades also needlessly harm civilians and the economy. While sanctions and embargos are still objectionable in our opinion, they are legitimate functions of international law. As long as their is a blockade without war, the Grand Duchy will view it as illegal and illegitimate.
Have not seen his post that he is invading and taking over Esam by force?

I have seen it and read it. My argument is that until there is a declared State of War, the Embargo is illegal. The Grand Duchy condemns in the strongest terms what has occured in Esam, but one violation of International Law does not allow the violation of another International Law.
an embargo is not an act of war. it is an attempt to prevent a war

You can declare as many embargos as you want to, as I have said I don't have a serious problem with that. My concern is the blockade.
Whittier
08-06-2004, 00:18
The blockade is to prevent him from getting more weapons. That is all we are stopping.
Normally he would have hthe right to import weapons but not when he is going to use them to invade and annex defenseless natoins.
Pedaphiliac
08-06-2004, 00:42
You know guys, its pretty obvious no one is shipping weapons to him, Ray is shipping goods to him, and thats all. there is no reason to blockade him. What you could do is annex Esam yourselves, and give Esam back control of his country. You know, what we are doing in Iraq? This would probably teach Rotovia a lesson.


Again, our goal is the physical protection or Raynia's trade. So far it seems like its doing ok, so the Pedaphiliac will just observe whats going on with orders not to fire on anyone unless fired upon, or if we have to defend Ray's shipping.
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 02:34
I'll fill you guys in on a bit of maritime law. The only way you can legally stop my merchantmen is if you declare a state of hostilities between yourself and Rotovia AND THEN you declare a total exclusion zone, or TEZ, around Rotovia. If those two events take place, Ryanania will cease sending ships and air traffic into Rotovia. Until that time, our ships will continue to sail unmolested into Rotovia. Unless you're willing to break the law, just to interfere with a nominally neutral nation's free trade, please leave our merchantmen alone.

And I remind you that we will retalliate against the merchants of any nation who attacks our merchants.
Letila
08-06-2004, 02:35
Pedophiliac! What kind of name is that for a nation?

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Muktar
08-06-2004, 02:36
Muktar is declaring a full embargo and dismissal of stock toward Rotovia.

OOC: The latter will draw the attention of Breeder's computer viruses. They are very powerful.
Pedaphiliac
08-06-2004, 02:37
Letila? That sounds like Lolita. What kind of sicko pervert are you?


:P
Hamptonshire
08-06-2004, 02:38
I'll fill you guys in on a bit of maritime law. The only way you can legally stop my merchantmen is if you declare a state of hostilities between yourself and Rotovia AND THEN you declare a total exclusion zone, or TEZ, around Rotovia. If those two events take place, Ryanania will cease sending ships and air traffic into Rotovia. Until that time, our ships will continue to sail unmolested into Rotovia. Unless you're willing to break the law, just to interfere with a nominally neutral nation's free trade, please leave our merchantmen alone.

And I remind you that we will retalliate against the merchants of any nation who attacks our merchants.

That is the feeling of the Grand Duchy also most to the word.
Whittier
08-06-2004, 02:39
I'll fill you guys in on a bit of maritime law. The only way you can legally stop my merchantmen is if you declare a state of hostilities between yourself and Rotovia AND THEN you declare a total exclusion zone, or TEZ, around Rotovia. If those two events take place, Ryanania will cease sending ships and air traffic into Rotovia. Until that time, our ships will continue to sail unmolested into Rotovia. Unless you're willing to break the law, just to interfere with a nominally neutral nation's free trade, please leave our merchantmen alone.

And I remind you that we will retalliate against the merchants of any nation who attacks our merchants.
You might want to take that up with Matich and Lower Egypt.
They both said they won't let Rotovia bound goods through the Strait of Gibraltar (owned by Matich) or the Suez Canal (owned by Lower Egypt).
These are the only ways into the mediterraneans and I can't see how you can get your ships through if they are closed.
Pedaphiliac
08-06-2004, 02:41
Easy, I'm there allowing them to pass through unmolested.

What are they going to do, post a buoy that says DONT COME THROUGH HERE OR WELL BE VERY ANGRY with a picture of a kid beating a dog with a stick?
Muktar
08-06-2004, 02:53
Easy, I'm there allowing them to pass through unmolested.

What are they going to do, post a buoy that says DONT COME THROUGH HERE OR WELL BE VERY ANGRY with a picture of a kid beating a dog with a stick?

Try very many angry ships, each with very many angry guns. Am I more accurate?
Whittier
08-06-2004, 02:54
Easy, I'm there allowing them to pass through unmolested.

What are they going to do, post a buoy that says DONT COME THROUGH HERE OR WELL BE VERY ANGRY with a picture of a kid beating a dog with a stick?then you're violating their national soverignty. You can't force them to let ships through.
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 02:57
Last I checked, Rotovia wasn't in Europe. Even if it is, we'll just drop our goods off in neutral ports and have them shipped by land route.

The bottom line is, we have been trading with Rotovia and will continue trading with Rotovia unless war breaks out.
Whittier
08-06-2004, 02:59
Last I checked, Rotovia wasn't in Europe. Even if it is, we'll just drop our goods off in neutral ports and have them shipped by land route.

The bottom line is, we have been trading with Rotovia and will continue trading with Rotovia unless war breaks out.If you checked the map, he's rping greece.
Macisikan
08-06-2004, 03:34
"Be it known that by measure of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Deputies, in Parliament assembled, all Rotovian vessels of trade and war are hereby ordered to leave the territorial waters of The Holy Empire of Macisikan, its colonies and dominions, within six NS hours of this measure being passed, and are henceforth banned from entry to such waters until such a time as the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Deputies, in Parliament assembled, do see fit to change their stance on the matter.

AND be it known that by measure of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Deputies, in Parliament assembled, all Macisikani vessels of trade are hereby forbidden from trading within Rotovian ports until such a time as the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Deputies, in Parliament assembled, do see fit to change their stance on the matter.

NOWTHERFORE set into law by the Great Seal of the Holy Empire of Macisikan by the hand of the Regent Alessandro Perez.

NON EST DISPUTANDUM!"
Matich
08-06-2004, 03:41
OOC: LE do I still have that lease on the Suez?

Any Rotovian or nation supporting Rotovian ship that tries to enter will be warned. If they do not stop and surrender they will be destroyed. Gibralter is the most heavily defended place in the Matich Empire. We also own Morrocco, North Algeria, the Azores and Southern Spain so we have a lot of power in the area. Do not test us. You will be destroyed.
Muktar
08-06-2004, 03:42
Muktar will do all it can to inhibit land trade to Rotovia.
Whittier
08-06-2004, 03:49
OOC: LE do I still have that lease on the Suez?

Any Rotovian or nation supporting Rotovian ship that tries to enter will be warned. If they do not stop and surrender they will be destroyed. Gibralter is the most heavily defended place in the Matich Empire. We also own Morrocco, North Algeria, the Azores and Southern Spain so we have a lot of power in the area. Do not test us. You will be destroyed.
I forgot about that. He told me about leasing you the canal.
I asked him to close and he said he would but he don't have the time to rp.
So if you want to do the honors.
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 03:49
Bah, you can't keep track of our land trade or air trade routes, since trucks and planes don't fly flags.

Oh, goody, I just made five hundred million dollars trading with Rotovia! Bling bling!
Whittier
08-06-2004, 03:50
No but he can search all vehicles on his land headed into Rotovia.
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 03:53
No but he can search all vehicles on his land headed into Rotovia.Good thing we won't be going through his land.
Matich
08-06-2004, 04:03
OOC: My airspace, sea, and land is closed to all nations supporting Rotovia.

By order of King John the Suez Canal has also been closed to Rotovia and all nations supporting Rotovia.
Matich
08-06-2004, 04:06
Rotovia
08-06-2004, 04:17
Last I checked, Rotovia wasn't in Europe. Even if it is, we'll just drop our goods off in neutral ports and have them shipped by land route.

The bottom line is, we have been trading with Rotovia and will continue trading with Rotovia unless war breaks out.If you checked the map, he's rping greece.OOC: Greece in Oceania though
Rotovia
08-06-2004, 04:19
Message incoming to Rotovia:

"We cannot hold our word to defend you if you should attack first. Be peaceful, diplomacy works. Do not open fire on blockading ships, it will make this conflict much worse and im not sure if i can defend you from a full on attack from 3 huge nations."We thank you for your advice, however a bloackade is an act of war and an act of war requires our response. I will not allow nations to make a hockery of the Rotovian People"

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/17142/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Rotovia
08-06-2004, 04:23
Message incoming to Rotovia:

"We cannot hold our word to defend you if you should attack first. Be peaceful, diplomacy works. Do not open fire on blockading ships, it will make this conflict much worse and im not sure if i can defend you from a full on attack from 3 huge nations."We thank you for your advice, however a bloackade is an act of war and an act of war requires our response. I will not allow nations to make a hockery of the Rotovian People"

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/17142/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Nianacio
08-06-2004, 04:25
Nianacio is opposed to economic sanctions.
OOC: Greece in Oceania thoughOOC: Hello, neighbor. Please prepare to be pwned.
Muktar
08-06-2004, 04:28
Message incoming to Rotovia:

"We cannot hold our word to defend you if you should attack first. Be peaceful, diplomacy works. Do not open fire on blockading ships, it will make this conflict much worse and im not sure if i can defend you from a full on attack from 3 huge nations."We thank you for your advice, however a bloackade is an act of war and an act of war requires our response. I will not allow nations to make a hockery of the Rotovian People"

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/17142/ivana-cuvalo.jpg

OOC: Hope you mean foreign nations, because you're doing just fine embarassing yourself!
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 04:53
Trade to Rotovia from Ryanania is slowing down, as less corporations are willing to risk the loss of goods and transportation, should someone do something stupid.
Domniarium
08-06-2004, 04:54
Domniarium will stand with Rotovia
Muktar
08-06-2004, 04:55
Domniarium will stand with Rotovia

OOC: Boy, Johnny, did you bet on the wrong horse.
Ryanania
08-06-2004, 04:55
Nianacio is opposed to economic sanctions.
OOC: Greece in Oceania thoughOOC: Hello, neighbor. Please prepare to be pwned.Were I Rotovia, I'd ignore any organized attack you launch, since it is unrealistic that a nation in anarchy would be able to mount a large, organized assault.
Nianacio
08-06-2004, 04:58
Were I Rotovia, I'd ignore any organized attack you launch, since it is unrealistic that a nation in anarchy would be able to mount a large, organized assault.OOC: If my nation were an anarchy, it would have no police or military, but it does. The UN category anarchy is in most cases an exaggeration. This is one of those cases. Nianacio has high levels of freedom (note that there are limits to the freedom), but it has a strong military.
In addition, I did not specifically say that I would be doing the pwning.
Domniarium
08-06-2004, 05:03
Domniarium will stand with Rotovia

OOC: Boy, Johnny, did you bet on the wrong horse.

We will see
Hamptonshire
08-06-2004, 05:14
OOC: Rotovia, make sure to check your TGs.
Letila
09-06-2004, 00:17
Letila? That sounds like Lolita. What kind of sicko pervert are you?

Yes, I know. If only I had known at the time I was choosing my name. Call us "The Country Formerly Known as Letila".

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