NationStates Jolt Archive

I noticed that almost all the threads created in the last couple hours about FWS and Mobutoland have been locked, I want to see how long this goes. Oh, and Mobutoland was definetly a puppet of FWS (was their any doubt?), I didn't bother doing a Mod Call on him, I knew he would get his soon enough, and he didnt lose a "major war" to AMF as he likes to say, he just merely let AMF in, then changed his mind (he did that alot too) and decided to fight (I think, this all happened so quick, I am not sure anymore), but it was too late.

And how the heck did AMF become so powerful, he isn't the oldest, and yet he is probably the most powerful person on here, odd isn't it? He must be a very politically active and historically learned, I know a lot about history, but if you can't put it into words like AMF can, it does you know good here.

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...

He almost destroyed my thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150762

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...

Exactly, more noobish, that and I guess he flooded a lot of forums with spam or something, I think he just irritated enough people, who irritated enough mods, that he was finally DEATed.

He almost destroyed my thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150762

Wow, that is messed up. But did his any of his things qualify to make the list?

Bah, i'd pwn AMF... Woulda been easier if I had done it when he first started tho :P

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...

OOC: AMF laid out a pretty clever trap. FWS freaked and ignored, then spammed the forum. Bad mistake. Someone said FWS was 17 years old and drunk at the time he freaked and spammed.

Bah, i'd pwn AMF... Woulda been easier if I had done it when he first started tho :P

OOC: *raises an eyebrow*

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...He started flaming nonestop.

He almost destroyed my thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150762

Wow, that is messed up. But did his any of his things qualify to make the list?
Two out of the three did. I put them on the list to be published today. After AMF invaded FWS, all of his factories and just about everything he owned was destroyed, and FWS (don't you just love these 3 letter acronyms) started acting noobish, I knew he was going to get deleted within the hour so I took him off the list.

OOC: I call your raise of an eyebrow and raise you an emot. o_O

OOC: I will say this about FWS: he wasn't half bad at RPing, it's just a damn shame he was not willing to accept the consequences that come from using WMD's like they're bullets and invading countries for no reason. Some people say I shouldn't have invaded FWS, but I did it because alot of people (ICly) were unwilling to.

FWS wanted to kick everybody's ass, but he could not handle the notion of having his ass kicked. I love Automagfreek dearly, but I would give it all up in a heartbeat if someone like Pantera or Melkor wanted to fight me. If I was FWS, I would have RP'd my ass off and gone down in a blaze of glory instead of spamming and flaming.

OOC: He could RP well only sometimes though. Other times it made my eyes bleed, twas sad.

OOC: I will say this about FWS: he wasn't half bad at RPing, it's just a damn shame he was not willing to accept the consequences that come from using WMD's like they're bullets and invading countries for no reason. Some people say I shouldn't have invaded FWS, but I did it because alot of people (ICly) were unwilling to.

FWS wanted to kick everybody's ass, but he could not handle the notion of having his ass kicked. I love Automagfreek dearly, but I would give it all up in a heartbeat if someone like Pantera or Melkor wanted to fight me. If I was FWS, I would have RP'd my ass off and gone down in a blaze of glory instead of spamming and flaming.

OOC: I totally agree. I thought it was a shame in a way to see FWS go since I also thought he could RP well. Some of his earlier posts had alot of good imagination and detail, and he RP'd a unique country. Even if he was a fascist and offensive to alot of people, that is the way of the world and why not in NS as well? But you're right about the Godmodding. A couple of countries in our region got into confrontations with him and just gave up. They all started out well in terms of RP and then he'd pull a multi-million man army out of his back pocket at the last minute. No excuse for spam and flame though.

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...

OOC: AMF laid out a pretty clever trap. FWS freaked and ignored, then spammed the forum. Bad mistake. Someone said FWS was 17 years old and drunk at the time he freaked and spammed.

I might have said that actually, I know I made a big deal over him being only 17 and he said he was a white collar, business suit wearing, middle class american, even though he sad he was failing several classes and might not graduate with his class. Someone said he dropped out of High School, he said he dropped out of college, I think he was just an uneducated racist.

OOC: I will say this about FWS: he wasn't half bad at RPing, it's just a damn shame he was not willing to accept the consequences that come from using WMD's like they're bullets and invading countries for no reason. Some people say I shouldn't have invaded FWS, but I did it because alot of people (ICly) were unwilling to.

FWS wanted to kick everybody's ass, but he could not handle the notion of having his ass kicked. I love Automagfreek dearly, but I would give it all up in a heartbeat if someone like Pantera or Melkor wanted to fight me. If I was FWS, I would have RP'd my ass off and gone down in a blaze of glory instead of spamming and flaming.

I was actually preparing to aid Chellis in invading FWS, once the spamming started I said F*** it and decided not to, you and Chellis managed to double team him pretty well.

how bout you guys just drop it mkay?

how bout you guys just drop it mkay?

You didn't have to suffer while FWS was screwing with the game, don't tell us what t do.

I for one am not happy to see him gone. Ding Dong the witch is dead.

I for one am not happy to see him gone. Ding Dong the witch is dead.

Why? Could you give us some reasons? Or was that sarcasm?

His blatent godmoding just drove me to insanity to say the least. While getting to know FWS over MSN i found out that he really was a right wing facist. He really believes in the superiority of thw white race etc etc. NS does not need that kind of rubbish. Look at this mostly unnoticed thread. If anything i believe that this was why he was deleted.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150767

COME ON LOOK AT IT NOW

I'm curious to know why he was finally deleted, because I don't think rampant godmodding is grounds for a deletion. Maybe it is.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he showed some promise at least. But over time he just became more and more n00bish and irritating. Sad really...

OOC: AMF laid out a pretty clever trap. FWS freaked and ignored, then spammed the forum. Bad mistake. Someone said FWS was 17 years old and drunk at the time he freaked and spammed.

I might have said that actually, I know I made a big deal over him being only 17 and he said he was a white collar, business suit wearing, middle class american, even though he sad he was failing several classes and might not graduate with his class. Someone said he dropped out of High School, he said he dropped out of college, I think he was just an uneducated racist.


That is a lie, I never said anything of that sort to anybody... I just graduated high school with honors, and made Magna Cum Laude. I was accepted into my first choice college (about $32,000 per year).. I think you are just an uneducated anti-white hate monger.

Obviously you passed English... You cannot even get "Said" right...


http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v239/TwMan/Diploma1.jpg


Obviously I deleted my last name from it... I am not anxious to see a whole mess of ARA freaks showing up at my house... Well... If the law was on my side and let me mow them down maybe... But oh well... It is my diploma... My Diploma with HONORS.

Oh... I'm not sure why I made a new nation... Well for one thing... I guess primarily just to clear up a few things about myself... Also I had to defend my honor.

Oh BTW... Canada... I realized there isn't anything I could do there the 12th time that I haven't done the last 11 trips... Also I have family obligations that prohibit me from travelling very far... Perhaps I will go and see the Mammoth Caves of Kentucky... But that is about it. When you have to take care of sick family members you must stay close to home. Yes in the real world one often has obligations and responsibilities... Although I wouldn't except you to know much about that... As you like to live in your fantasy world and spread lies about me. You may call me a racist, I don't care... But you cannot get away with saying I failed a single class... I never have and never will... I graduated Magna Cum Laude with Honors.

Am I the first person to fire an ignore cannon at Italia Irredenta?

*Fires Ignore Cannon*

It certainly looks like it. \ó/

I should like to extend my apologies for my uncalled for behavior yesterday. I would also like to extend my apologies to AMF for not giving him the battle he wanted, and the battle I wanted to give... But alas, I despaired and feared I would be deleted from losing the war, and at the time I was in little condition to exercise good judgement. Combined with the information that I thought true, that mods would delete me for losing a war (Which I received from Unified Sith)... I thought I might as well go out in a blaze of flaming... I regret that choice.


I would have preferred to go out in Götterdämmerung fashion... A battle of Rhodes City that would have rivaled the battle of berlin... Maybe next time... Maybe next time...


I am deeply sorry for my atrocious language... I pride myself on not swearing... I hope you don't allow to impact your opinion of me.

Added: I would also like to say that I think I've done some good RPs, and would like to continue to keep you all "on your toes" and moderately entertained... I am sorry I had so many posts though... If I decide to continue to play I will certainly limit the number of threads I start... This is just my backup nation... My real nation won't be revealed for a while... Make it a poll who the real FWS is...

I ignore the new FWS puppet,Italia Irredenta

I ignore the new FWS puppet,Italia Irredenta


FWS is dead... This is not a puppet.

I'll ignore Italia Irredenta

frig guys give him one more chance for smeg's sake

I'll ignore Italia Irredenta


I'll ignore you also... You are a rotten liar. When I told you I was considering hiding some WMDS... I then changed my mind and decided to fully abide by all AMF regulations... But you kept open your offer to hide them for me, you also offered to secretly make naval ships for me, at a 10% discount. You also offered to hide naval ships for me, the ones I was to destroy (I did destroy them)...

I think people are going to be disinclined to do so after last night. Nonetheless, no doubt he'll get one. I for one hope that he (or rather you, II/FWS) don't f**k this one up, 'cos some of your stuff was good.

why? What has he done that means you need to ignore him? If it's to do with FWS, can't we assume that your previous ignore is still valid? Come on, you have better things to do, surely, other than wasting your time reaffirming what you only likely said a few days ago. If you had read any of FWS's old diplomatic threads, you would have seen they were very well written. Perhaps the war ones were a little off, but you know what? It doesn't matter. Room for improvement. And I don't care for OOC reasons. If you hadn't checked the summary at the II forum, I'll quote it for you.

"A staging-point for declarations of war, international trade, and other major diplomatic events. [ In-character; role-playing etiquette enforced ]

The bit that's important is highlighted.

I'll ignore Italia Irredenta


I'll ignore you also... You are a rotten liar. When I told you I was considering hiding some WMDS... I then changed my mind and decided to fully abide by all AMF regulations... But you kept open your offer to hide them for me, you also offered to secretly make naval ships for me, at a 10% discount. You also offered to hide naval ships for me, the ones I was to destroy (I did destroy them)...

you see AMF and I are quite friendly. I was telling him all you said. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I needed my revenge on you for being such a... well you know.

I think people are going to be disinclined to do so after last night. Nonetheless, no doubt he'll get one. I for one hope that he (or rather you, II/FWS) don't f**k this one up, 'cos some of your stuff was good.


Oh don't worry... I'm all here now... Clear and focused... And I thank you for saying some of my stuff was good... I admit some of it was crap...

The first thing I will do is to finish some old RPs... The attempt of communists to take FWS...

I will be using all FWS maps, names, dates, history... I loved that nation... I don't know how to justify the people being alive but all I'll say is this is an RP and strange things happen :)

Or how about everybody fled FWS into Italia Irredenta...

Or wait... This is just FWS before the war... I will have an army fitting my size... When I hit about 50-60 million I'll start using my old FWS statistics again...

I'll give him another shot. I guess it would be fair to do so. I mean my 1st nation was such a disaster (rushing into war and stuff) I deleted it in 5 days when ignored

I'd honestly scale back your military if I were you; you don't wanna turn into another USSR after all. As to the RP, how about simply saying that your nation was born of a civil war and that this is the communist counter-offensive?

I want my old name back... I don't care about losing the population and starting over... But I want my old name back... :(

Since I am fully aware now I am sad I lost my old nation...


Can I get a name change? Or since FWS was deleted can I start a new nation with the old name?

I think people are going to be disinclined to do so after last night. Nonetheless, no doubt he'll get one. I for one hope that he (or rather you, II/FWS) don't f**k this one up, 'cos some of your stuff was good.


Oh don't worry... I'm all here now... Clear and focused... And I thank you for saying some of my stuff was good... I admit some of it was crap...

The first thing I will do is to finish some old RPs... The attempt of communists to take FWS...

I will be using all FWS maps, names, dates, history... I loved that nation... I don't know how to justify the people being alive but all I'll say is this is an RP and strange things happen :)

Or how about everybody fled FWS into Italia Irredenta...

Or wait... This is just FWS before the war... I will have an army fitting my size... When I hit about 50-60 million I'll start using my old FWS statistics again...

that will get you ignored, the punishment for being deleted is starting over again

I think people are going to be disinclined to do so after last night. Nonetheless, no doubt he'll get one. I for one hope that he (or rather you, II/FWS) don't f**k this one up, 'cos some of your stuff was good.


Oh don't worry... I'm all here now... Clear and focused... And I thank you for saying some of my stuff was good... I admit some of it was crap...

The first thing I will do is to finish some old RPs... The attempt of communists to take FWS...

I will be using all FWS maps, names, dates, history... I loved that nation... I don't know how to justify the people being alive but all I'll say is this is an RP and strange things happen :)

Or how about everybody fled FWS into Italia Irredenta...

Or wait... This is just FWS before the war... I will have an army fitting my size... When I hit about 50-60 million I'll start using my old FWS statistics again...


alright man I hope ots goes well but remeber that NS will have there eye on you for Godmoding so dont scree up ok?

I want my old name back... I don't care about losing the population and starting over... But I want my old name back... :(

Since I am fully aware now I am sad I lost my old nation...


Can I get a name change? Or since FWS was deleted can I start a new nation with the old name?

you can't use the name again, but you can add a 2 or change the spacing on it

I'd honestly scale back your military if I were you; you don't wanna turn into another USSR after all. As to the RP, how about simply saying that your nation was born of a civil war and that this is the communist counter-offensive?


On the contrary... I wanted a nation with enough long-term problems to keep everybody happily entertained... A USSR would be fine... But I was hoping to eventually have an Iraqi fashion... With my burned out tanks littering the roads, dead soldiers lining the streets... Wrecked planes etc... But that would be a war only... Not an occupation and wrecking of the nation... Not the people...

I would gladly RP losing a major war... But it has to be done right... I don't like to have to start everything over from scratch... Losing a war is fun because I am a big fan of those galant last stands.

Thermopylae, Acre, Constantinople, Alamo, Little Big Horn, Khartoum, Stalingrad, and Berlin... I love a good last stand.


I'd also like to mention Rorke's Drift... But that ended in victory for the defender... Unlike the above mentioned battles.

Remember that while many nations lose a last stand battle... They may very well win the war in the end. Alamo, Little Big Horn, Khartoum, and Thermopylae being fine examples.


If you ever want to RP wipe out my army in a war... We must talk in real time for a few hours to plan it out to a T... I love giving meticulous detail to something.

Heh, fair enough. Good luck with this nation man.

FascistWhiteStates will be identical in all ways that matter to Fascist White States... Except FWS is now an island about 400 miles south-west of India... Old FWS was in Africa... However, New FWS still is the same landmass that it was... Rhodesia+Botswana+Namibia...


Also... When we hit about 50 million we will be using our old army statistics... Until then we shall use about 250,000 Defense Force Soldiers.


I hope the new FWS brings you as much joy as the old FWS... Whether you got your joy from reading RPs or declaring war... I hope you enjoy reading upcoming FWS RPs...

Also if anybody ever wants to war me please talk with me in a realtime chat so we can plan it precisely... Thank you... (And I don't want a flood of messages offering wars 10 minutes after this is posted) :)

FascistWhiteStates will be identical in all ways that matter to Fascist White States... Except FWS is now an island about 400 miles south-west of India... Old FWS was in Africa... However, New FWS still is the same landmass that it was... Rhodesia+Botswana+Namibia...


Also... When we hit about 50 million we will be using our old army statistics... Until then we shall use about 250,000 Defense Force Soldiers.


I hope the new FWS brings you as much joy as the old FWS... Whether you got your joy from reading RPs or declaring war... I hope you enjoy reading upcoming FWS RPs...

Also if anybody ever wants to war me please talk with me in a realtime chat so we can plan it precisely... Thank you... (And I don't want a flood of messages offering wars 10 minutes after this is posted) :)

sounds good. I don't see any godmodding here, its OK to revert back at 50 million, but I warn that those numbers were godmodding when at 50 million

FascistWhiteStates will be identical in all ways that matter to Fascist White States... Except FWS is now an island about 400 miles south-west of India... Old FWS was in Africa... However, New FWS still is the same landmass that it was... Rhodesia+Botswana+Namibia...


Also... When we hit about 50 million we will be using our old army statistics... Until then we shall use about 250,000 Defense Force Soldiers.


I hope the new FWS brings you as much joy as the old FWS... Whether you got your joy from reading RPs or declaring war... I hope you enjoy reading upcoming FWS RPs...

Also if anybody ever wants to war me please talk with me in a realtime chat so we can plan it precisely... Thank you... (And I don't want a flood of messages offering wars 10 minutes after this is posted) :)

sounds good. I don't see any godmodding here, its OK to revert back at 50 million, but I warn that those numbers were godmodding when at 50 million

I shall try my darndest to make sure I avoid Godmodding... I will figure what I can afford and cannot... I'll probably end up with less army and more navy because we are now an island... Probably just less tanks and such...

Well by the time I hit 50 million I'll use my old 50 million stats... I'll see to it I don't deviate more than a percent or so in either direction from the accepted number...

The way I see it FWS, you're a good RPer, but you just came up with crazy numbers. Even with a population of 50M those statistics were nearly impossible. The amount of tanks, airplanes, and naval vessels you had seemed limitless. Yes I know you receive funding from other countries, and you're highly militaristic, but you need people to work in those numerous factories you had, mine minerals, feed your people, and work in jobs. I'd suggest you don't go to war with your own puppets, and try to improve your foreign relations. That's just me.

The way I see it FWS, you're a good RPer, but you just came up with crazy numbers. Even with a population of 50M those statistics were nearly impossible. The amount of tanks, airplanes, and naval vessels you had seemed limitless. Yes I know you receive funding from other countries, and you're highly militaristic, but you need people to work in those numerous factories you had, mine minerals, feed your people, and work in jobs. I'd suggest you don't go to war with your own puppets, and try to improve your foreign relations. That's just me.


Okay... I will take your advice to heart...

The way I see it FWS, you're a good RPer, but you just came up with crazy numbers. Even with a population of 50M those statistics were nearly impossible. The amount of tanks, airplanes, and naval vessels you had seemed limitless. Yes I know you receive funding from other countries, and you're highly militaristic, but you need people to work in those numerous factories you had, mine minerals, feed your people, and work in jobs. I'd suggest you don't go to war with your own puppets, and try to improve your foreign relations. That's just me.
I've done that. Its fun. But its only good if you want to write stories. Not good for rp. (you have to take more time before posting moves).

a good source is www.thirdgreek.com/nseconomy.php?region=mesopotamia_

just replace the region with your own

or you can input "nation={your nation}

its better than the others I have seen.

The way I see it FWS, you're a good RPer, but you just came up with crazy numbers. Even with a population of 50M those statistics were nearly impossible. The amount of tanks, airplanes, and naval vessels you had seemed limitless. Yes I know you receive funding from other countries, and you're highly militaristic, but you need people to work in those numerous factories you had, mine minerals, feed your people, and work in jobs. I'd suggest you don't go to war with your own puppets, and try to improve your foreign relations. That's just me.
I've done that. Its fun. But its only good if you want to write stories. Not good for rp. (you have to take more time before posting moves).

a good source is www.thirdgreek.com/nseconomy.php?region=mesopotamia_

just replace the region with your own

or you can input "nation={your nation}

its better than the others I have seen.


Didn't work :(


The one I always used is


http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html

The way I see it FWS, you're a good RPer, but you just came up with crazy numbers. Even with a population of 50M those statistics were nearly impossible. The amount of tanks, airplanes, and naval vessels you had seemed limitless. Yes I know you receive funding from other countries, and you're highly militaristic, but you need people to work in those numerous factories you had, mine minerals, feed your people, and work in jobs. I'd suggest you don't go to war with your own puppets, and try to improve your foreign relations. That's just me.
I've done that. Its fun. But its only good if you want to write stories. Not good for rp. (you have to take more time before posting moves).

a good source is www.thirdgreek.com/nseconomy.php?region=mesopotamia_

just replace the region with your own

or you can input "nation={your nation}

its better than the others I have seen.


Didn't work :(


The one I always used is


http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html
That's another one I use. Its a good one too.

The one you don't want to use is that first one they invented cause it is very biased toward liberalism and has no basis in reality like these two.

There is also one for determining troop numbers. I'll come back with the thread.

here it is.

http://veratien.ksilebo.net/ns/mmc.php

here it is.

http://veratien.ksilebo.net/ns/mmc.php


Thank you.