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Tyrandis obliterates Greece and Cyprus!

Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 03:53
OOC:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150404

TNS Broadcast:

In response to the disgusting state sanctioned murder of Jews by the government of Greece and Cyprus, as well as their numerous, well-known threats against the free state of IDF, the Senate of Tyrandis has declared war on the nation of Greece and Cyprus in a unanimous vote.

Codenamed OPERATION: SWIFT HAMMER, Tyrandis's immense armed forces have been called up to destroy the government of G&C.

A statement from the desk of Executor of State Xavier Davidson has said that this war is akin to the conflict of World War II, in that the nation of Tyrandis will destroy a psychotic, genocidal regime. Executor Davidson has also issued a call for "all civilized nations to oppose the Nazi-esque state of G&C." He is expected to make a televised speech in front of the Senate within the week.

Executor of the Armed Forces Conrad Davidson has called up several thousand troops for the upcoming war, and several F-35 fighter groups have begun conducting sorties over the beaches of G&C.

Stay tuned to Tyrandis News Service to provide the latest info, straight from the front lines!

EDIT: Troop deployments:

IC:

Executor of the Armed Forces Conrad Davidson has called up the following units for the invasion of Cyprus:

Army:
*Infantry*
- 3rd Infantry
- 28th Infantry
- 62nd Infantry
- 8th Infantry
- 101st Airborne
- 82nd Airborne
- 17th Airborne
- 81st Air Assault

*Armor*
- 1st Armored
- 3rd Armored
- 8th Armored
- 106th Armored
- 12th Armored
- 20th Artillery
- 52nd Artillery

*Support*
- 321st Medical
- 605th Engineering
- 801st Logistical

*Special Operations*
- 10th Special Forces Group
- 5th Special Forces Group
- 8th Special Forces Group
- 1st SEAL Group
- 76th Ranger Regiment
- 75th Ranger Regiment
- 160th SOAR

Air Force:
- 1st Air Force
Composed of:
1st Strike Wing
10th Strike Wing
20th Strike Wing

- 2nd Air Force
Composed of:
2nd Strike Wing
11th Strike Wing
21st Strike Wing

- 3rd Air Force
Composed of:
3rd Strike Wing
12th Strike Wing
22nd Strike Wing

- 4th Air Force
Composed of:
4th Strike Wing
13th Strike Wing
23rd Strike Wing

Naval:
- 1st Carrier Group
- 2nd Carrier Group
- 5th Battle Group
- 14th Battle Group
- 201st Wolfpack
- 502nd Wolfpack

EDIT: Speech added to front page.

TNS Broadcast:

We're here live with Executor Xavier Davidson's speech on the topic of war with Greece and Cyprus.

"Citizens of Tyrandis and members of the free world:

Sixty years ago, on this very day, the United States of America participated in one of the bloodiest military operations of the 20th century. Hundreds of young men were cut down by the guns of the Nazis, yet they continued to bear the fight and ended their supposedly thousand-year rule.

That operation was the Day of Days, the invasion of Normandy.

Today, throngs of men, women and children gather there to honor their sacrifice. The American soldiers gave their lives so that freedom could endure.

In the course of history, the Jews have been persecuted for no reason other than their extrodinary success. They were murdered by Muslims and Christians in the Crusades, they were almost wiped off the Earth by the Nazis, and today, they face the likelihood of brutal genocide by Greece and Cyprus.

It is said that those who do not understand the past are doomed to repeat it. And so it has come that another psychotic government has risen to power, murdering Jews. That government is the state of Greece and Cyprus.

The survivors of the Holocaust have a simple phrase: "Never forget."

And Tyrandis has not forgotten. We have not forgotten the pain, the anguish, the evil that Nazi Germany represented. And we have not forgotten the new evil that G&C represents to all free peoples.

But we have not forgotten the bravery, the sacrifice, and the sheer heroism of our forefathers who gave all so that freedom might live on and the innocent might be saved.

Tyrandis cannot simply stand by and watch as another Holocaust occurs.

THEREFORE, the Armed Republic will wage war and expend the blood of our soldiers to ensure that this genocide will never occur again.

Our nation also issues a call to arms against Greece and Cyprus, for all free states must unrelentlingly oppose this threat to humanity as a whole.

Actions speak louder than words; thus, our armies have already crossed the Suez canal and have launched OPERATION SWIFT HAMMER, bringing the might of our Armed Forces against these murderous animals."

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-cloud.jpg
Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State
IDF
05-06-2004, 03:55
we join in

OOC: can't post til tommorrow afternoon. I'm taking SAT and going to sleep now
The Trojan Empire
05-06-2004, 03:55
And Troy has decided that in response to this breach of national sovereignty, we shall torch 10,000 Jews residing within or nearby Trojan borders.

You have made a mortal mistake, dear chap, to cross paths with a Trojan. We will regret it when the day of judgement comes. Call of this attack or prepare to endure suffering. It's your choice.

Choose wisely.

-Priam
IDF
05-06-2004, 03:57
Chellis
05-06-2004, 04:03
Chellis
05-06-2004, 04:06
Chellis gives moral support to AMF, and while we expect that it doesnt need it, Chellian naval elements have pledged to help it in the war.

OOC:

First off, incase you did not know, AMF, or AutoMagFreek owns Greece. We arent going to get majorly involved in this, dun want a repeat of last time, but really, any participation of mine would probably be a few air missions out of the med.
Izistan
05-06-2004, 04:12
OOC: Will AMF join the conflict?
Shmorgasborg
05-06-2004, 04:15
I will join in against IDF. Like I told him before, it crosses a line when he goes to war with people just because he doesnt like their views.
Izistan
05-06-2004, 04:20
OOC: It's not a "view", G&C attacked IDF with dirty bombs, and is currently engaged in genocidal activitys against a ethnic group.
05-06-2004, 04:32
Chellis gives moral support to AMF, and while we expect that it doesnt need it, Chellian naval elements have pledged to help it in the war.

OOC:

First off, incase you did not know, AMF, or AutoMagFreek owns Greece. We arent going to get majorly involved in this, dun want a repeat of last time, but really, any participation of mine would probably be a few air missions out of the med.

OOC: This isn’t AMF’s Greece…

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150404
The Fedral Union
05-06-2004, 04:37
My forces are alredy around his island or what ever .. Fed forces are awaitieng allied forces before attackign the enmmy force
Edolia
05-06-2004, 04:37
"We will remain neutral in this conflict due to our hostility towards Tyrandis. A plague upon both your houses. May your casualties be many."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

"The Socialist Empire of Edolia will officially offer safe haven to any and all refugees fleeing this conflict."
Scottford von Harrick
Minister of State
Shmorgasborg
05-06-2004, 04:39
Show me the proof that he attacked IDF and I will back down.

Edolia, you stole a line from romeo and juliet you bastard :D

COPYRIGHT HAKCS!!1one
Totalitarionism
05-06-2004, 04:45
I will be sending 1,500,000 troops, 10,000 T-101 tanks and 12,000 F14's to defend my citizens that are visiting there.
Gosselania
05-06-2004, 04:45
OOC: I'm in, but I'll post more tomorrow.

The Gosselanian government has moved to send a large expeditionary force to the war on Greece and Cyprus.
Edolia
05-06-2004, 04:50
Edolia, you stole a line from romeo and juliet you bastard :D

COPYRIGHT HAKCS!!1one

What?! I made that up myself!!! What are you talking about!?!? :P

And check your telegrams G&C.
Fluffywuffy
05-06-2004, 04:51
Its Mercutio, you crazy thief! :P
The Fedral Union
05-06-2004, 05:18
Hmm should i luanch a cruise missle or shoudlit i hmm choices . *thinks*
Totalitarionism
05-06-2004, 05:34
I have sent my 4th naval fleet(10 carriers, 16 destroyers and 20 cruisers) to help defend greece and Cyprus.
New Vladivostok
05-06-2004, 05:36
In response to the holocausts perpetrated of late in the Trojan Empire and Greece and Cyprus, His Imperial Majesty Yevgeni Vsevolod, Emperor of the Northern Orient, Grand Duke of New Vladivostok and Lord of Sakhalin Island hereby declares war on said rogue nations, and offers his full support to Tyrandis in their noble efforts to root out anti-Semitic tyranny.

As such, His Majesty has ordered the deployment of the following forces:

Two Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers
Two Siberia-Class Battleships
Four Sakhalin-Class Guided Missile Cruisers
12 New Khabarovsk-Class Frigates
12 New Omsk-Class Destroyers
10 Los Angeles-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines

The first Imperial Amphibious Expeditionary Force, totalling 60000 trained stormtroopers is also being deployed, along with the First Armored Corps of the Emperor's Guard, totalling 5000 heavy tanks and 10000 light assault vehicles.

ETA: 10 days (RT: 2 hrs)
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 05:36
OOC: Chellis, it isn't AMF's Greece, it's the terrorist one (check link)
Automagfreek
05-06-2004, 05:37
OOC: Chellis, it isn't AMF's Greece, it's the terrorist one (check link)

OOC: Not my Greece. Because if it was........ :twisted:
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05-06-2004, 05:45
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New Vladivostok
05-06-2004, 06:16
Bump
Chellis
05-06-2004, 08:23
OOC: Roger, sorry

IC: A few chellian intelligence officers have been executed for the horrid mistake. Chellis is neutral, although leaning toward support of G&C, as it is in an anti-tyrandis phase.
The Fedral Union
05-06-2004, 13:36
Hmm the fed union is sending an extra
10,000 troops
2 armoured devsions
2 mechnized infintry devsions
2 Mobile laser's
4 medical ships
(thats in addsion to hwat i alredy have there)
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 16:03
OOC: If it was AMF's Greece, I'd be screwed 20 ways to hell :lol:

I'll also edit my first post so new nations can see the force deployments

IC:

Executor of the Armed Forces Conrad Davidson has called up the following units for the invasion of Cyprus:

Army:
*Infantry*
- 3rd Infantry
- 28th Infantry
- 62nd Infantry
- 8th Infantry
- 101st Airborne
- 82nd Airborne
- 17th Airborne
- 81st Air Assault

*Armor*
- 1st Armored
- 3rd Armored
- 8th Armored
- 106th Armored
- 12th Armored
- 20th Artillery
- 52nd Artillery

*Support*
- 321st Medical
- 605th Engineering
- 801st Logistical

*Special Operations*
- 10th Special Forces Group
- 5th Special Forces Group
- 8th Special Forces Group
- 1st SEAL Group
- 76th Ranger Regiment
- 75th Ranger Regiment
- 160th SOAR

Air Force:
- 1st Air Force
Composed of:
1st Strike Wing
10th Strike Wing
20th Strike Wing

- 2nd Air Force
Composed of:
2nd Strike Wing
11th Strike Wing
21st Strike Wing

- 3rd Air Force
Composed of:
3rd Strike Wing
12th Strike Wing
22nd Strike Wing

- 4th Air Force
Composed of:
4th Strike Wing
13th Strike Wing
23rd Strike Wing

Naval:
- 1st Carrier Group
- 2nd Carrier Group
- 5th Battle Group
- 14th Battle Group
- 201st Wolfpack
- 502nd Wolfpack

EDIT: Double-pasted :oops:
Jeruselem
05-06-2004, 16:28
The Jeruselem Navy will be sending a task force of unspecified size start a naval blockade of Cyprus side of Greece and Cyprus to assist Tyrandis in his operations.

OOC

We're just to G&C's south-east.
Tagio
05-06-2004, 16:32
NATIONAL CONGRESS HALL, TAGISTEAD




The Hall is ablaze with conversation as the congressmen debatewhat to do the recent decrelation of war against Greece and Cyprus finally the hall quiets down Hans Grubbel, acting in the name the injured Jan Werkava steps up to the Tangromae's podium and begins to speak: "People of Tagio, esteemed congressmen I, Hans Grubbel acting on the behalf of our injured Tangromae do here by annnounce that we go to war aganist Tyrandis and all friends of those despicable jews, the IDF. I also do hereby announce that I have taken the liberty of ordering the extermination of all non-Aryans within Tagio's borders." At this a murmur spreads through hall at this action. One of the congressmen stood up said: "While I am sure that the declrelation of war will pass through this august body what authority do you think you have Mr. Grubbel to order the activation of Plan FS without the consent of the Congress?" Grubbel answered with barely controllled anger "AND WHO TO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO STEP IN THE WAY OF THE FINAL SOLUTION!!" A worried murmer spread through hall only to be interrupted a another blast anger from Grubbel: " IF YOU PETTY CONGRESSMEN WILL STAND IN MY WAY THEN I SHALL DISBAND IT!" With this last burst Grubbel took a deep breath and announced in a calm voice: " With the authrority vested in me by our beloved leader I do here by ABOLISH this body and vest in myself, all who oppse are eniemes of the master race and will be killed. This meeting is over and we now march to war."
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 18:52
TNS Broadcast:

We're here live with Executor Xavier Davidson's speech on the topic of war with Greece and Cyprus.

"Citizens of Tyrandis and members of the free world:

Sixty years ago, on this very day, the United States of America participated in one of the bloodiest military operations of the 20th century. Hundreds of young men were cut down by the guns of the Nazis, yet they continued to bear the fight and ended their supposedly thousand-year rule.

That operation was the Day of Days, the invasion of Normandy.

Today, throngs of men, women and children gather there to honor their sacrifice. The American soldiers gave their lives so that freedom could endure.

In the course of history, the Jews have been persecuted for no reason other than their extrodinary success. They were murdered by Muslims and Christians in the Crusades, they were almost wiped off the Earth by the Nazis, and today, they face the likelihood of brutal genocide by Greece and Cyprus.

It is said that those who do not understand the past are doomed to repeat it. And so it has come that another psychotic government has risen to power, murdering Jews. That government is the state of Greece and Cyprus.

The survivors of the Holocaust have a simple phrase: "Never forget."

And Tyrandis has not forgotten. We have not forgotten the pain, the anguish, the evil that Nazi Germany represented. And we have not forgotten the new evil that G&C represents to all free peoples.

But we have not forgotten the bravery, the sacrifice, and the sheer heroism of our forefathers who gave all so that freedom might live on and the innocent might be saved.

Tyrandis cannot simply stand by and watch as another Holocaust occurs.

THEREFORE, the Armed Republic will wage war and expend the blood of our soldiers to ensure that this genocide will never occur again.

Our nation also issues a call to arms against Greece and Cyprus, for all free states must unrelentlingly oppose this threat to humanity as a whole.

Actions speak louder than words; thus, our armies have already crossed the Suez canal and have launched OPERATION SWIFT HAMMER, bringing the might of our Armed Forces against these murderous animals."

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-cloud.jpg
Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:01
If any thing this is all political its not

read this Imperial Brits I have my reasons

genocide
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150404

here is the dirty bomb attack
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=142846&highlight=
if any question my moves look here

you will see he dirty bombed me killing 65,000 of our citizens. We have a right to declare war on him and siding by him is the same of siding with Osama. All nations attack!!!!
Shmorgasborg
05-06-2004, 19:02
as noble as it is, the nazis are going to come down on you.
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:08
IDF AF started the Air war simultaneosly.



The large IDF fleet started sending up F-35 JSFs with Harpoon ASMs. There were 250 of the planes in the air within an hour. They were headed for Cyprus where enemy ships were blockading. A quartet of RC-135s flying under SAM ship and F-15C protection had found surface contacts presumed hostile. There were a few dozen enemy ships in the area of the blockade. The F-35s came to a range of 150 miles. The pilots armed their Harpoons. The stealth planes would have their missiles guided by the look down radars on the large converted Boeing 707 recon birds. At 125 miles, the optimum fire range, the stealth planes launched a total of 500 Harpoon missiles. Each had a warhead of 500 pounds and quickly beared in on their targets. Each plane fired 2. The planes then pulled up and switched radar control to a pair of E-3 Sentrys that were tracking F-5Ks from the enemy carrier in the Cyprus area. The JSFs still kept radar down.

The planes were using AWACs radar still. The first 50 F-35s closed to a range of 25 miles and started firing AMRAAMs at the F-5s. The 250 F-35s had 2 AMRAAMS each and 2 sidewinders each. After each of the 1st 50 fired 2 AMRAAMs, they turned back on full burner for 10 minutes and then slowed and waited. The next 50 came in and went for the remainders (this is where you come in G&C)

224 F-22As took off from the bases in Haifa. They quickly met KC-110s, 135s, and 767 refuelers to extend their range. They were armed with 3 AMRAAMs each and 3 Sidewinders. They were to take out the enemy Air force under stealth. 6 767 ER AWACs were in between Greece and Cyprus. They were being defended by the SAM missiles of the IDF fleet. There were also 48 F-15Cs running racetrack patterns around them for protection.

The F-22s were on supercruise which allowed them to go mach 1.5 without afterburners. They were going to help maintain stealth by not using radars and having their missiles guided by the large rotodome RADARs on the AWACs birds. They came to a range of 175 miles from the southern Cypriot coast. They would take out the planes there first. They searched for the Airwing stationed there. The AWACs had some radar bounces and directed the fighters in. The AWACs alone didn't get returns surface ships with the 8 megawatt AEGIS radar got returns and started firing 2 SM-4 Block 1 SAMs at each. The missiles had an effective range of 200 miles. The planes were 150 miles away from the missiles. (post losses here)


The IDF aircraft carriers then launched 32 S-3B Viking ASW planes. The planes started using MAD (magnetic anomaly detectors) to find subs. Within 30 minutes, a total of 14 submarine contacts (hotile) were found around the island of cyprus.

The destroyers and carriers then put up 19 of their SH-60 F ASW LAMPS III helos. The Foxtrots came over the points of MAD detections. They lowered their dipping SONARs. 2 of the contacts were found to be duds. The rest were confirmed as positive sub contacts.

The SH-60 Foxtrots were given the order to fire. 12 of the choppers released 2 magnetic guided torpedoes as the subs. The magnetic torpedoes were not a new idea as the Germans had them in WWII, but they were rarely used in modern warfare. The older systems would not fall for active or passive CMs.

I will await these losses before further stages come
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:08
as noble as it is, the nazis are going to come down on you.

we outnumber their many n00b nations with many older ones
Shmorgasborg
05-06-2004, 19:11
i severly doubt that 50 planes would launch both their A-A missles at 25 shitty enemy planes. its like getting an m-60 because a 4th grader challenged you to a stick fight.
Shmorgasborg
05-06-2004, 19:13
as noble as it is, the nazis are going to come down on you.

we outnumber their many n00b nations with many older ones

Now now, lets not be ignorant. Just because they are nazis in ns doesnt mean they are nazis in real life. and it also doesnt mean they are n00b.

Man if only Pedaphiliac didnt get deleted because i hadnt signed in for 3 months. that was my nazi nation, and it'd be....a year and a half old now.
:(

but eh, i guess since no nazi nations are coming to help him, hes fooked
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:15
as noble as it is, the nazis are going to come down on you.

we outnumber their many n00b nations with many older ones

Now now, lets not be ignorant. Just because they are nazis in ns doesnt mean they are nazis in real life. and it also doesnt mean they are n00b.

Man if only Pedaphiliac didnt get deleted because i hadnt signed in for 3 months. that was my nazi nation, and it'd be....a year and a half old now.
:(

but eh, i guess since no nazi nations are coming to help him, hes fooked

Their noobs not because their nazis, but the age of their nations. THATs what I mean.

Now leave this thread. I'm asking nicely
Praetonia
05-06-2004, 19:17
as noble as it is, the nazis are going to come down on you.

we outnumber their many n00b nations with many older ones

Now now, lets not be ignorant. Just because they are nazis in ns doesnt mean they are nazis in real life. and it also doesnt mean they are n00b.

Man if only Pedaphiliac didnt get deleted because i hadnt signed in for 3 months. that was my nazi nation, and it'd be....a year and a half old now.
:(

but eh, i guess since no nazi nations are coming to help him, hes fooked

You can apply to get it revived. On the Moderation Board I think...

but IDF does have a point. All of the openly Nazi nations on NS right now are May or June 2004 nations.
Ian geekie
05-06-2004, 19:20
My forces are alredy around his island or what ever .. Fed forces are awaitieng allied forces before attackign the enmmy force
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 19:25
The 502nd Wolfpack's 30 Ohio-class submarines opened their launcher tubes, aiming at the beaches of Cyprus...

"This is Lunaris-I," radioed the lead sub's commander to the rest of the small group. "OPERATION FIRST STRIKE has been approved by Executor Conrad Davidson. Load your warheads!"

An alarm blared out in each of the subs, bearing the same message:
"All crewmembers to cruise missile launchers, begin FIRST STRIKE. This is not a drill. This is not a drill."

The order continued to flash as the sailors moved towards their respective battle stations.

"Lunaris-II, EMP missiles ready!"
"Lunaris-III, EMP missiles ready!"

All of the Ohio-class subs relayed the same message.

"This is Lunaris-I, awaiting orders from Executor Conrad Davidson to begin launch... LAUNCH HAS BEEN APPROVED!"

600 EMP cruise missiles were fired at the beach emplacements of Greece and Cyprus, causing mass confusion and disabling electronic equipment.

The war would soon begin in earnest as infantry and armor prepared to move in for the invasion at a moment's notice...

EDIT: Forgot a zero on my missile attack :lol:
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:27
The invasion part of the plan was starting out nicely.

5 Ohio class SSGNs were to pave the way for an invasion.

aboard USS Oklahoma, flag of SSGN group2

1400

“General Quarters,” called the Cob. “All hands man your battlestations.”

“Planes,” called the CO. “up 7 bubble on fairwater planes. All rise.”

“coming up 7 degrees, speed 4 knots coming to level at depth 1-5-0 feet. Nav Aye,” called navigation

“weps. Flood all tubes. Equalize, open and set.”

Aye sir.”

5 minutes later

“All subs begin firing sequence in 30 seconds.” called the CO, who was screen commander here

“aye,” was the call heard on radio from other subs.

“firing now skip,” called weps

within 10 minutes a total of 780 TLAMs were in the air. Each had 1,500 lbs of explosives. They had more than usual as they were only going a tenth of their maximum range and had less fuel.

Half the warheads were high explosive, the other half were cluster munitions.

The targets were defense positions at the eastern beachhead. A few were headed for an air field near Larnaca.

The flight time was about 5-10 minutes for the missiles

OOC: I am softening defense and leading way for an invasion of Cyprus
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:39
Following the missile strikes, an invasion began. 144 F-22A raptors flew CAP.

188 F-16C Falcons came in to do the job they do best, beat the **** out of ground positions and support friendly ground troops.

123 F-15Es did the same.

The invasion was much like Normandy, but with numbers on our favor and good chances of success.

98 C-141 Starlifters took off from IDF air bases for the short hop to eastern Cyprus. Each had 155 paratroopers.

They carried the 15,190 men and women (yes Israel has women in military) of the 1st Airborne division.

187 of the smaller C-130 Hercules carried 76 men and women paratrooopers each to drop near the air fields of Larnaca and secure them. They were the 14,212 paratroopers of the 4th Airborne division.

5 Wasp class LHDs slowed to a stop in the Eastern Med. Onboard each was 1,950 marines. These 9,750 men were the 1st marine expeditionary force. They 1/3 of them deployed by helicopter. They boarded CH-53 Pave Hawks which carried them to the beach they would deploy on.

The rest were on hoverboats which carried a total of 75 Bradleys, 55 hummers, and 35 M-1A2 Abrams tanks.

They were just the 1st wave.
IDF
05-06-2004, 19:52
bump
Kay Son
05-06-2004, 19:57
The PRKS will send an observer task force to watch the outcome of this war. The ships will bear a flag of neutrality and pledge non-intervention with any party.

[2 Ticonderoga class cruisers-> the RNS Bluehalf and the RNS Reion]

They will be arriving within 3 NS Days.
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 19:59
The 17th, 101st, and 82nd Airborne Divisions are dropped behind enemy lines as an initial strike force, with A-10 Thunderbolts and Apache helicopters flying CAS, clearing the drop zone of any anti-air defenses that managed to escape being disabled by the EMP attack.

As they land, the 3 divisions secure the beaches, pushing the confused and frightened G&C defenders back further and further.

In an eerie echo of D-Day, hundreds of landing hovercraft hit the beaches, as soldiers and armor units are moved out onto G&C soil...

OOC: Last post from me today.
IDF
05-06-2004, 20:04
The 17th, 101st, and 82nd Airborne Divisions are dropped behind enemy lines as an initial strike force, with A-10 Thunderbolts and Apache helicopters flying CAS, clearing the drop zone of any anti-air defenses that managed to escape being disabled by the EMP attack.

As they land, the 3 divisions secure the beaches, pushing the confused and frightened G&C defenders back further and further.

In an eerie echo of D-Day, hundreds of landing hovercraft hit the beaches, as soldiers and armor units are moved out onto G&C soil...

OOC: Last post from me today.

OOC: funny how we are coming on the 60th anniversary tommorow.

Did anyone see the paratrooper reanactment this morning? sort of like whats happening in this RP now. Well G&C will fall harder than Germany did
The Trojan Empire
05-06-2004, 20:08
IDF
05-06-2004, 20:43
bump
IDF
05-06-2004, 20:43
bump
Tyrandis
05-06-2004, 20:47
OOC: Actually, this will be my last post for today.

"On behalf of Tyrandis and her citizens, I thank the many nations that have gathered together against G&C. May your casualties be few and your victories many."

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-sephiroth.jpg
Executor Conrad Davidson
Executor of the Armed Forces
IDF
05-06-2004, 23:30
ANNOUNCEMENT RULES OF ENGAGEMENT:

No planes or ships under any circumstances can go within 25 miles of Greece and Cyprus. Allied planes and ships are exempt. No civilian air traffic within 50 miles will be allowed (that is for safety reasons)

Any planes including G&C airliners will be shot down if over G&C territory.

Invade at your own will, but do it soon
The Trojan Empire
06-06-2004, 02:00
<OOC: my post got fucked up so I'll just make a quick summary of a short post -- we don't like Greeks, we just dislike the fact that you've breached the guy's sovereignty. troy will not go to war but since someone declared war on us, priam said, "come and get us, bitch." summary. :D >
Tyrandis
06-06-2004, 03:01
OOC: Ahhh... after a nice nap, I feel like posting again. I'm going to assume that G&C's lack of posting = no resistance, ala AMF.

IC:

The official stance from the Administration is that although we recognize a nation's right to sovereign rule, the brutal, systematic execution of any group is intolerable.

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-tifa.jpg
Director Valerie Fenton
Director of Foreign Affairs

Meanwhile, the invasion continues as the first divisions of armor and infantry move inland. The 101st, 82nd and 17th have crushed all resistance on the beaches. T-90 tanks and other armor roll across the shattered defenses...

Shadowhawk helicopters from the 160th SOAR have dropped Special Forces deep in the heartland of G&C, where they conduct raids and assassinations...

The Pathfinder team moved towards the objective highlighted on their map. Spy satellite RAVEN-III had detected odd movement in the area, and a 6-man team of Pathfinder SOF were dispatched to investigate.

"This is HUNTER LEAD," radioed the small force's commander to Central Command. "We're approaching the target...

Oh. My. God."

The small force had found an abandoned death camp.

"HUNTER unit reporting in," said the force's commander in a broken voice. "We've found the remains of at least several thousand Jews. Requesting... assistance." He then turned off the headset, and began to cry. After several minutes, he found the strength to continue.

"This is Executor Conrad Davidson," replied the leader of the entire Tyrandis military force over the radio. "Take recon and transmit the photos to base."

"Roger." The soldier took out his camera, and relayed the horrors via satellite back to the capital.

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"Bastards." was the only thing that Davidson could muster.

"Tell TNS to publicize these images to the world. Let them know the crimes of G&C against humanity.

Inform our allies of this tragedy. And evacuate the survivors, if there are any. I want the best medical support available to them.

God knows they have suffered enough."
IDF
06-06-2004, 03:17
Aboard USS Arizona, 1st SAG
The SAG formed on the Eastern Cyprus edge at a range of 20 miles.
2 Charles de Gaulle CVN
5 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa II BBG
6 Ticonderoga CG
2 Kirov CGN
8 Arleigh Burke DDG
7 Farragut DDG
4 OH Perry FFG
4 supply ships

the Arizonas opened fire. each had 12 x 22 in guns. They pummeled the coast of Cyprus aiming for cities to give a psycological effect. Civilians are targets on Cyprus now (not greece yet as we will give them time to reconsider). G&C made them targets.

The cities are also being fired on with 1,198 TLAMs from the battle ships, cruisers, and destroyers. The carriers are sending a total of 90 JSFs to carpet bomb.

The Iowa II BBGs are firing their 9 x 16 in guns at the Cyprus coast and cities
IDF
06-06-2004, 03:18
Aboard USS Arizona, 1st SAG
The SAG formed on the Eastern Cyprus edge at a range of 20 miles.
2 Charles de Gaulle CVN
5 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa II BBG
6 Ticonderoga CG
2 Kirov CGN
8 Arleigh Burke DDG
7 Farragut DDG
4 OH Perry FFG
4 supply ships

the Arizonas opened fire. each had 12 x 22 in guns. They pummeled the coast of Cyprus aiming for cities to give a psycological effect. Civilians are targets on Cyprus now (not greece yet as we will give them time to reconsider). G&C made them targets.

The cities are also being fired on with 1,198 TLAMs from the battle ships, cruisers, and destroyers. The carriers are sending a total of 90 JSFs to carpet bomb.

The Iowa II BBGs are firing their 9 x 16 in guns at the Cyprus coast and cities
Sicily1991
06-06-2004, 03:45
Sicily will join in the bombing of Cyprus. 198 B-52Hs with 82 x mk84 2,000 lb bombs each took off from oversea bases in IDF (there due to shorter distance and have been planning this all day).

The Sicilian AF is working with IDF's AF.

15 minutes before the B-52 takeoff, 96 F-4 Wild Weasels took off to take out all Sams and radars with HARMs. 36 F-16Cs helped do with it.

108 F-15Cs took off to proved fighter protection and cleared the way for the bombers.

The bombers followed these escorts and are carpet bombing all of Cyprus in 15 minutes. After the 1st load they will re arm and do it again until Cyprus is lifeless aside from allied soldiers (NOTE TO ALLIES: I know your positions and they will be avoided by B-52s)
The Fedral Union
06-06-2004, 04:06
*Yawns* im waiteing for G &C to post before i attack .
The Horned Rat
06-06-2004, 04:34
OOC:OMG stupid server didn't put in my post
IC:
IC:Assembling is complete 1,000,000 troops are awaiting IDF's word to invade.
Forces:
60,000 Slaves armed with mob weapons and the shirts on their back

20,000 Clanrats armed with AK-47s, and 1 Panzerfaust 3 for every 10 Clanrats, no armor except uniform

5,000 Stormvermin armed with AK-74s, 1 Panzerfaust 3 for every 10 of them and 50 pushed M777 howitzers, have the equvilant to light armor

10,000 Clanrats armed same as the Clanrats on foot only these are mounted in Fusche transports and 100 towed M777 howitzers

5,000 Stormvermin armed the same only have 100 M777 howitzers instead of 50 and are also mounted in Fusche transports

Elements straggling back from the war with Acre Union may come by also.

OOC:basically a grey seer sent them in a frenzy and they are on the move and have been told to accept all people waving white flags and refugees.
IDF
06-06-2004, 05:30
bump
Viking People
06-06-2004, 08:17
OOC: wrong not all openly nazi nations are new ones... I just have been away for a bit for RL issues

IC: The defence council had been monitoring the invasion of g&c closely and because the trend of jewish aggression was becoming so apparent the contacted the 2nd Viking Attack Wing and ordered 50 F-117 Nighthawk Stealth fighters to mobilize

Within 45 minutes the first wave of 25 planes were airborne while the second wave was being armed.

The First contact was made by the 3rd squadron commander he radioed the location of the bombers to the 1st and 2nd squadrons and went to attack altitude as the other 2 squadrons got into position.

2nd squadron commander got on the radio "we are in position, go"

3rd squadron attacked the bomber escorts from above taking out 3 in the first attack. as they circled back to sweep up the remaining escorts 1st and 2nd squadrons went for the bombers. it was over in less than 10 minutes and 3rd squadron commander radioed back to headquarters "skies clear no survivers we are returning to base"

meanwhile 4th and 5th squadrons continued to patrol the skies and 2 more wings were put on alert
Tyrandis
06-06-2004, 15:24
OOC: Viking, you're ignored for god-modding. Rules say you can't say how many losses other people take. Also, the Nighthawk is a really a bomber, not a fighter.

IC:

Spy satellite RAVEN-I detected the launch of the bombers from Viking People. The 1st Air Force was ordered to intercept.

"This is Phoenix-1-1," radioed the lead F-22 of the fighter group. "I've got visual on target." He spotted the F-117s moving toward Tyrandis and IDF ground positions.

"I've got visual... FOX 1!" shouted the pilot, as an AIM-120 Scorpion missile was launched from the fighter's underside. The other planes moved in, 27mm Mauser cannons blazing at the F-117s...
IDF
06-06-2004, 16:18
Viking, I also ignore you from this conflict. Posting enemy losses is the greatest of all godmodds
The Fedral Union
06-06-2004, 16:21
*waites* when is G & C going to post?
The Horned Rat
06-06-2004, 16:21
Is there any map, or could I get a description of cities and geography.
IDF
06-06-2004, 16:22
*waites* when is G & C going to post?
I tged him. he was on yesterday after the 1st so I sent another with this link. If he doesn't respond and knows about it, then I guess he accepts defeat. (at least according to AMF's precedant)
The Horned Rat
06-06-2004, 17:45
The Horned Rat
06-06-2004, 18:02
IC:
If the C+G forces listened carefully they would here digging and curseing underground, but they weren't able to hear them because of the executions.
Tunneling
1,000 Slaves for labor
500 Clanrats
100 Stormvermin

Losses from cave ins and warpstone
150 Clanrats
20 Stormvermin
700 Slaves

Reinforcements:
2,000 more slaves
800 more Clanrats
400 more Stormvermin
5 pushed M777 Howitzers
1 Gutter Runner

Finally there was only a few feet of stone btween the Skaven and enemey. The Gutter Runner had all 5 howitzers aim at the weak pointwhile the meat shield was assembled.
"Fire"
All five howitzers rang out deafening all in a 5 yard radius. The slaves were herded into enemy gunfire by their superiors on shots. The clanrats charged through the breach behind the slaves.
Viking People
06-06-2004, 18:45
OOC: this is ridiculous so it's godmodding now to assume that 3 squadrons (15 planes) of stealth fighters can take out a few slow obselete bombers and their escorts easily if attack isn't expected... if I was wrong someone let me know but it looks to me like IDF just wants to pick on smaller nations and ignore the larger ones who come to help him
IDF
07-06-2004, 02:16
OOC: this is ridiculous so it's godmodding now to assume that 3 squadrons (15 planes) of stealth fighters can take out a few slow obselete bombers and their escorts easily if attack isn't expected... if I was wrong someone let me know but it looks to me like IDF just wants to pick on smaller nations and ignore the larger ones who come to help him

You forgot to notice I have dozens of AEGIS ships which send out 8 million watts of power down a .5 degree bearing. That would get a return, so would my dozens of AWACs birds. I also had 100's of stealth fighters (F-22 and F-35s in the air) You godmodded and are IGNORED
Ruby Villa
07-06-2004, 05:16
Ruby Villas pretty landlocked and our Navys only for show. With that in mind Ruby Villa is preparing to deploy

13th Airborne Division to Sicily in preperation for a jump on Cyprus
Note: 13th Airborne requests naval support around Cyprus before jump.

3rd Armor comprising 300 M-1 Abrams also to Sicily in preperation for landing on eastern coast of Cyprus.
3rd Armor requests naval transport to eastern coast of Cyprus.

Ruby Villa is entirely open to further deployment after 13th Airborne and 3rd Armor have engaged Cypriote forces, successful or otherwise.

Ruby Villa would also like to take this oppurtunity to declare an open door policy to all refugees fleeing from Greece and Cyprus as well as her commitment to fight terrorism in IDF and anywhere else it may appear.
New Vladivostok
07-06-2004, 05:56
The Empire of New Vladivostok shall provide said support, Ruby Villa. Just tell us what you need, and you will have it.
New Paristan
07-06-2004, 06:51
New Paristan's guerilla fighters have begun to organize an anti-government opposition movement within the working class of G&C. Contact with IDF's Mossad agents has been helpful in locating friendly workers. An underground network is building up, ready to seize power at the proper moment.

We will continue to organize ourselves underground until you give the word to rise up, IDF.
The Horned Rat
08-06-2004, 01:52
Stragglers from the Ottoman Khaif/Johor vs. Acre Union war began to reassemble under orders from the army's warlord. Some new weapons and soldeirs began arriving but these were sneeked in, as if hiding from the allies.
Arrived

1,000 Tau Firewarriors mounted in Fusche transports armed with:
AK-74s, 1 Panzerfaust 3 for every ten Tau, 100 Towed M777 howitzers.

3,000 Tau on foot armed the same as mounted Tau only no Fusches

2,000 Clanrats armed the same as the other Clanrats

4,000 Slaves armed as previous Slaves are

1,000 Stormvermin armed exactley like the ones in combat only 200 M777 howitzers

500 Stormvermin mounted in Fusches, armed same only have 150 M777 Howitzers

1,500 Clanrats mounted in Fusches armed as Clanrats on foot except with 150 M777 Howitzers

20 "Improved" M1-Abrams attached to mounted Stormvermin

large numbers of rats the size of cats to wolves have also been herded

one other bio-weapon has been moving, if someone declares they saw it TG me and I will TG them what it is.

New squad weapon 1 out of every 10 for all Clanrats and Stormvermin regardless of their movement means, Warpfire Throwers, Think flame thrower only green flames that can melt tanks, if you some how survive you mutate and die horribly, will arrrive to all active units in on RL day, tomorrow at 3:00 P.M.
The Horned Rat
08-06-2004, 01:53
Stragglers from the Ottoman Khaif/Johor vs. Acre Union war began to reassemble under orders from the army's warlord. Some new weapons and soldeirs began arriving but these were sneeked in, as if hiding from the allies.
Arrived

1,000 Tau Firewarriors mounted in Fusche transports armed with:
AK-74s, 1 Panzerfaust 3 for every ten Tau, 100 Towed M777 howitzers.

3,000 Tau on foot armed the same as mounted Tau only no Fusches

2,000 Clanrats armed the same as the other Clanrats

4,000 Slaves armed as previous Slaves are

1,000 Stormvermin armed exactley like the ones in combat only 200 M777 howitzers

500 Stormvermin mounted in Fusches, armed same only have 150 M777 Howitzers

1,500 Clanrats mounted in Fusches armed as Clanrats on foot except with 150 M777 Howitzers

20 "Improved" M1-Abrams attached to mounted Stormvermin

20 "improved" F-16s attached to, once again, the mounted stormvermin

large numbers of rats the size of cats to wolves have also been herded

one other bio-weapon has been moving, if someone declares they saw it TG me and I will TG them what it is.

New squad weapon 1 out of every 10 for all Clanrats and Stormvermin regardless of their movement means, Warpfire Throwers, Think flame thrower only green flames that can melt tanks, if you some how survive you mutate and die horribly, will arrrive to all active units in on RL day, tomorrow at 3:00 P.M.
Tyrandis
08-06-2004, 02:35
As the Tyrandis units advance, the towns and farmland are set to the torch, causing mass starvation in the citizenry. No pity was given to them, except for the children, who were given food and medical aid from military surplus.

The survivors of the death camp that the Pathfinders had liberated were few; only 128 were found alive and 10 of them died over the next weeks. The others were evacuated to hospitals in IDF.

OOC: When the heck is G&C going to post?
West Cedarbrook
08-06-2004, 02:38
West Cedarbrook Second Division (Adom Gadol) has disembarked, following on IDF right flank, 20,000 infantry. Light casualties reported. Advance at this time to 15 miles depth linking with IDF Airborne. Remainder of Army of West Cedarbrook, 1st Infantry, 3rd Infantry, 4th Mechanized, and 5th Infantry nearby offshore to reinforce advance on flank in support of IDF and Allies.

Carrier group Zakopane coming within strike range.
Tyrandis
08-06-2004, 03:16
Note to allies in war: Send a representative to the new government.

IC:

TNS Broadcast:

Special Report: OPERATION SWIFT HAMMER.

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Tyrandis forces have just taken the capital city of Nicosia in Operation Swift Hammer against the regime of Greece and Cyprus. Spearheaded by the Tyrandis 101st Airborne, and greatly aided by allied forces on flanks and aerial support, the city was taken without resistance.

Much of the credit is given to the Allies's psyops warfare against the citizenry, undermining the G&C defenders.

No soldiers were killed in action, although one infantryman was injured from a stray shell from a G&C soldier. He is expected to make a full recovery.

Currently, the city's 194,000 civilians have been ordered to relocation camps set up by the military.

TNIA operatives have discovered evidence of death camps for Jews in Nicosia, in an eerie echo of Nazi Germany. Tyrandis armor units liberated the camps and are currently allowing the survivors to rest for several weeks before debriefing on their conditions.

Several photos were made available to TNS:
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As you can see, the horrors are immense. Humanitarian efforts are now underway, with the 821st Disaster Response Brigade being dispatched to the area.

The government of Cyprus has now surrendered to the Allied Forces, and a new provisional authority is being selected from each of the Allied nations.
West Cedarbrook
08-06-2004, 03:21
Secretary for External Affairs Ernest Klein will represent West Cedarbrook. We express hearty congratulations to the brave Allied Forces, assistance for victims of the murderous regime, and pledge swift justice for the perpetrators.

Louis Steinberg, President, Armed Republic of West Cedarbrook.
IDF
08-06-2004, 04:48
I will send our Undersecretary of State to be our delegate.

I say we stick with joint government for a while.

I also think the war can end now, Whittier, an ally of mine is in trouble and I need to send troops. G&C suffered and will always remember this. We won.
Ruby Villa
08-06-2004, 04:52
Tyrandis, we stand with you in celebration for our accomplishments thus far and in admiration for your steadfastness to our noble cause. We however remind all allied nations that the real fight, the decisive battle of this war still lies ahead. Tyrandis, Ruby Villa has a spare airborne division and armor division deployed in Sicily and awaiting orders. their action has been nonexistant thus far, they are crack and they are fresh. As Ruby Villa reputation is as yet untainted in this situation it is the suggestion of Ruby Villa that these two division be posted to ensure order in Cyprus. We do however recognize that the choice lies with Tyrandis. Its up to you, do you want them in Cyprus, prepared for deployment to Greece or just sent home.
We await your reply.
IDF
08-06-2004, 05:02
I can actually keep forces into a fight, the other war will probably not happen
IDF
08-06-2004, 22:56
The Republic of Greece and Cyprus
Received: 105 minutes ago The 'mass genocide' was simply a ruse, I would direct you to a forum post but I havent made it yet. However almost 20,000 Jews were killed due to a Nazi coup that only lasted for 3 NS days. The new president in power has agreed to hand over the Nazi dictator to your courts along with the bombers of recent terrorists attacks against your country.


OOC - Do a post on this and set up a NS Court to try them. We will provide full cooperation under the restored Government.
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We got all our demands, including Cyprus, we won.

Now who wants to try this case?
08-06-2004, 23:08
Oh, you wont get anyone until you remove your forces from my area. I have launched no military attacks on the coalitions forces and asked the same of the Aryan Alliance, now if I will refer you to a new thread I made. I have said that my forces are closing in the beachhead. Your forces will remove themselves now, and then we can begin diplomacy, your forces will remove themselves.
Ferratus
08-06-2004, 23:29
As a neighbor of G&C (Just west of Greece), Ferratus officialy declares a state of neutrality. We will allow neither side in this conflict to use any of our facilities for military purpouses.

Secret IC sent to leaders of both sides: Unless you can provide compensation ;)


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Ferratus (http://ghostblade.dyndns.org/~phil/ferratus/)
IDF
08-06-2004, 23:33
The Republic of Greece and Cyprus
Received: 105 minutes ago The 'mass genocide' was simply a ruse, I would direct you to a forum post but I havent made it yet. However almost 20,000 Jews were killed due to a Nazi coup that only lasted for 3 NS days. The new president in power has agreed to hand over the Nazi dictator to your courts along with the bombers of recent terrorists attacks against your country.


OOC - Do a post on this and set up a NS Court to try them. We will provide full cooperation under the restored Government.
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We got all our demands, including Cyprus, we won.

Now who wants to try this case?
IDF
08-06-2004, 23:35
We need Cyprus for compensation of your war crimes. If not this costly war will continue with the invasion of Greece itself.

Now, what are your casualties from the war?
The Fedral Union
08-06-2004, 23:42
I dont think im going to back off unlless you open up to inspectors
IDF
08-06-2004, 23:58
I dont think im going to back off unlless you open up to inspectors
amen. That means our forces remain here
09-06-2004, 00:14
The Inspector's are allowed in. That is not a problem, but dont you dare think you are getting Cyprus it is a Christian homeland with Christian holy sites, and we will reclaim it by force if needs be.
Ruby Villa
09-06-2004, 00:40
If theres one thing we can always be sure of in this world is not to trust inspectors or reports from the enemy. Ruby villa for one will not accept the claim that no genocide took place until she sees it with her own eyes. Ruby villa asks her allies to stand with her in demanding greece and cyprus let in citizen inspectors representative of their own respective government to inspect the situation without greek and cypriote "guidance".
IDF
09-06-2004, 02:03
The Inspector's are allowed in. That is not a problem, but dont you dare think you are getting Cyprus it is a Christian homeland with Christian holy sites, and we will reclaim it by force if needs be.

We are getting Cyprus and have taken it with overwhelming force that you can't match. You aren't getting it back!
West Cedarbrook
09-06-2004, 02:12
The Second Division will remain in Cyprus and the remainder of the First Army will disembark to join Allied Occupation Forces as negotiations continue. Carrier group Zakopane will return to home port.
IDF
09-06-2004, 02:32
We will continue with our 250,000 troops on Cyprus (many are support and engineers who are building bases as we speak for our troops and other peacekeepers on Cyprus) We have the rest of our army 100 miles away in Israel
The Horned Rat
09-06-2004, 02:54
We shall devote all troops in this conflict twoards helping IDF
Tyrandis
09-06-2004, 02:57
Tyrandis refuses to leave Cyprus until, and ONLY UNTIL, the monsters responsible for the heinous crimes against the Jewish population are apprehended and tried for crimes against humanity.

Even then, we will maintain a garrison in Cyprus. There is NO WAY Tyrandis will withdraw her forces to allow another brutal government to rise.
IDF
09-06-2004, 03:05
we will keep a garrison there too. We have suspended bombing in the meantime.

IF OUR DEMANDS ARE NOT MET A DISASTER BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION WILL OCCUR!!!!
IDF
09-06-2004, 03:43
IDF forces are preparing for an even larger invasion that may be neccessary if G&C doesn't come through.
thousands more choppers are ready and reserves are being called up to take Greece. (total army forces with reserves= 3.5 million) (marines with reserves= 550,000)
a total of 38 Wasp and Tarawas are being prepared for amphibious assaults. Cyprus will be used to base choppers as wil Hungary.
Ruby Villa
09-06-2004, 05:02
Ruby Villa would like to stress the concern of time in this situation. We have the momentum. If we are committed to the invasion of Greece as we seem to be it must be done posthaste. The 13th airborne hereby volunteers to drop with all speed behind the coastal defenses of southern Greece to disable them or at worst harass them in preperation for a beach landing along the southern coast. The 3rd armor is volunteering to spearhead such a landing once ample support, naval, aireal and otherwise has been deployed. Again we stress the issue of time. We have the momentum, we have the moral highground. Lets finish this fight, gentlemen.
New Vladivostok
09-06-2004, 06:11
As darkness fell, and the moon sank beneath the waves, a fleet of stealthy landing craft approached the beach 50 miles away from Athens. Just as the first troops disembarked, the fleet's of the Emperor opened fire... on targets twenty miles away from the actual landing site. As the sirens went off at the diversionary target, the elite Emperor's Stormtrooper Guard landed on the beach silently, and immediately, and swiftly, cruise missiles slammed into the communications facilities around the beach, and the guns turned on the Greek fortifications, as the Stormtroopers continued to land.
09-06-2004, 15:39
Oh fuck it.... I.G.N.O.R.E, you seem to have 'captured' both Cyprus and Greece withour any losses, and without any encounters with armed forces. IDF, I've said it many times, you are simply a godmodder. And its become a fucking joke, really, its actually quite funny. You didnt capture anything you are just an embittered Jew who hates anyone who isnt a Jew.

You can fuck off, because as far as I am concerned, you and all these godmodding threads full of 'WE T00k TEH ISLAND WIT NO CASUALTIES' and 'IDF I HAVE 10,000,000,000,000,000 TROOPS IF j00 WANT THEM' are pathetic, stop playing by your own rules, and play the rules on the sticky's you zionist shit.
IDF
09-06-2004, 16:48
OOC: G&C, for us to post casualties, you have to post counter attacks. You have been posting and posting since we started the invasion. You have been asked to post counter attacks and fail to do so. When you have been posting you earlier acknowledged the invasion of Cyprus.

I haven't been putting up godmoddish numbers (when is a few 100,000 godmodding when I have 420 million people?) I have only been representing a fraction of all forces here. Tyrandis and the others have more and their numbers aren't godmoddish. You are allowed to have 5% population in the military at a time of war when reserves are called. Neither of us has even approached that number.

I TGed you last week saying that if you didn't counter attack we would presume no resistance (according to AMF precedent). You knew it and still didn't post so don't go on the accusations of godmodding. It is generally expected that when you are outnumbered on a battlefield by more than 10:1, you lose.

Oh, and keep down the flaming, PLEASE. Sit back, take a deep breath and relax, it's only a game.
Patria Grande
09-06-2004, 16:55
Patria Grande
09-06-2004, 17:04
Patria Grande's leader has decided, overnight, to support Greece and Cyprus in their defense from international attack. Patria Grande will not send troops but instead sell military modified SUV's to Greece and Cyprus on their request. This is simply an isuue of sticking up for a nation which has stuck up for ours in the incredibly recent past. Should Greece and Cyprus refuse aid, Patria Grande will not attempt to enter the conflict.

sincerely,

secretary of defense, Franco Ruiz, on behalf of General Miguel Alcazar,
Protector of Patria Grande
IDF
09-06-2004, 17:12
We are blockading Greece and Cyprsus (well no longer the Cyprus part as the allies control it) We have planes and ships not allowing anything in or out of Greece. (people can leave or come to Cyprus after security checks are done)
IDF
09-06-2004, 17:12
We are blockading Greece and Cyprsus (well no longer the Cyprus part as the allies control it) We have planes and ships not allowing anything in or out of Greece. (people can leave or come to Cyprus after security checks are done)
IDF
09-06-2004, 17:28
Oh, I was planning on posting huge casualties in the event of a counter attack (worse than D-day casualties)

I'll post them anyways for the 2 Airbornes and Marine EF.
102nd airborne: 75% casaulties including 45% dead,
6th airborne: 80% casualties, 48% dead
1st MEF: 85% casualties, 52% dead

(these are much worse than D-Day casualties but on par with predicicted D-day casualties as D-day turned out better than hoped for on the casualty side)
Daleys Chicago
09-06-2004, 19:16
WGN News at 9
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Hello, I'm Daleys chicago's co-Information Minister Ken "Hawk" Harrelson with my work partner Darrin Jackson.

We begin tonight's broadcast with breaking news.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has announced that Chicago will side with allies Tyrandis and IDF in the war against Greece & Cyprus. Air units only wil be sent in this war as people don't want to risk a situation where ground troops are called in.

Political opponents said that his decision is based on his hopes of getting re-elected in this election cycle. he is hoping to get the 25% Jewish vote in his favor. He is currently behind Steve Bartman and Ozzie Guillen.

Regardless of this all 3 candidates support this war and are opposed to the genocide that occured.

NOW ONTO SPORTS!

Those White Sox keep on winning despite missing Magglio Ordonez the past 2 weeks. Magglio had arthroscopic knee surgery on Saturday and can be expected back right before the All-Star Break.

The Sox won 14-11 against the Phillies in the 1st day of Interleague play.

Mark Buehle struggled early on giving up 3 earned runs in each of the 1st 2 innings. He gave up 3 in his last 5 starts.

The Sox came into support Buehle again though. Scoring 6 in the 1st from HRs by Juan Uribe, Paul Konerko, and carlos Lee.

The Sox took the lead in the 3rd after a 2 run shot over the left-centerfield wall by none other than FRANK THOMAS! Lets run that clip from the game last night that Hawk and I announced.

http://www.onlineathens.com/images/072303/thomasf.jpg
audio for clip Frank is down 0-2 in the count. The pitch. IT'S GOING WAY BACK! HE LOOKS UP! YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOAAARRRDDDDD eeee YESSSSS!
West Cedarbrook
09-06-2004, 21:20
The carrier group Zakopane will return to Cyprus and await Allied decision about invasion of Greece.

The Republic of West Cedarbrook particularly welcome's Daleys Chicago to the cause. And bring in. Shalom Aleichem, and back to you, Ken!
IDF
10-06-2004, 01:53
Right now we wait. whatever happens next depends on what Greece and Cyprus does.
The Horned Rat
10-06-2004, 02:00
Losses:
10,000 Stormvermin
20,000 Clanrats
All slaves have been killed
500 Fusches from various armored groups
All F-16s and M1-Abrams
Tau loses
400 Fire warriors
40 fusches
Tyrandis
10-06-2004, 02:08
OOC: We've only captured Cyprus, not Greece.

Tyrandis losses:

(considering that the beach defenses were completely crushed by EMP and naval barrage)

Invasion forces:
25% total casualties, with 50% of those dead

Airborne units:
60% total, with 32% dead.

Air Force:
10x TSB-8 bombers
12x F-35 JSF
6x F-22

Naval:
None.
West Cedarbrook
10-06-2004, 03:02
Second division casualties are at 15% total, 5% dead. The 9th Army with three infantry two armored divisions is prepared to join the 1st Army in the event of any invasion of Greece. Total strength 200,000.
IDF
10-06-2004, 06:54
Right now I advise the building of air strips and ports in Cyprus. We may need to fortify it to defend against an attack and also for a possible base of attack on Greece.
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 01:25
:arrow:
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 01:52
Due to current aggression by the nation of Tyrandis against the islands of Greece and Cyprus over what is clearly an internal and therefore private operation, The New Aryan State declares a state of war against Tyrandis and it's allies.
Support will be given to the Greeks in the form of airlifted supplies and armaments, military units including the 2nd-8th Schutzstaffel battalions, battalions from a total of fourteen Wehrmacht Regiments, tank support from the 3rd-6th Panzer Divisions, and a number of ME 204B fighter aircraft. The task force shall be under the command of Oberstgruppenführer Schrober.
The Chancellor regrets the necessity of his decision, yet expresses his hopes that the situation can be brought to a quick and peacful conclusion.
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 01:57
excellent, for some reason I like german military names, like wermacht, i like the way it sounds. Sorry for temporary insanity/rambling, we finally have someone who may post attacks, unlike some people(glares at C+G)
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 01:58
In addition to the above forces, the GSG9 Special Forces will also be deployed in disruptive operations in enemy occupied Cyprus. The exact number of operatives cannot be specified at this time.
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 02:08
OOC: You can't really sneak into Cyprus w/ SF, considering that we're shooting down ANY non-allied plane (including civilians) 25 mi. off the coast. Even though we're taking flak from the international community.

In the capital of Tyrandis...

Executor Conrad Davidson sighed. The war was a smashing success, as the entire island of Cyprus was crushed and under control of the Allies, but an upstart Nazi force decided to challenge the might of Tyrandis.

If they wanted a battle, so they would have one.

"Bolster our naval forces in the area. I want two more battle groups and a carrier unit in the surrounding waters." he ordered the logistical command.

Meanwhile, in the coast surrounding Cyprus, the Navy readied guns and missiles...

---

"On behalf of Tyrandis, we ask that the New Aryan State cease hostilities. Bloodshed at this point is unnecessary, considering that the government of G&C has ceased the murder of Jews, and peace negotiations with the Greeks are underway."

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Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 02:13
We can provide anti-ship/air missles...
Type : Short range anti-ship missile (also anti-airship)
Length : 310 cm.
Diameter : 53.3 cm.
Weight : 1000 kg.
Warhead : Armor-Piercing High Explosive Anti-Structure.
Weight/yield : 500 kg.
Propulsion : Thrust-Vectored Hydrogen/Oxygen Rocket Motor
Guidance : Brother-Telemetry Guided
Max speed : Mach 4.0.
Range : 2 km
we can send 1,000 over imeaditley if required.
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 02:36
"Good evening, citizens.

"In response to the landing of troops to assist in the defence of Greece the aggressor nation of Tyrandis issued a formal request that our troops return home, claiming that no more blood need be spilt.
"Diplomats from our esteemed nation met with the Tyrandis ambassador earlier this evening to discuss the matter.
"However, peace was not on Oberstgruppenführer Schrober's mind this evening, Karl Meubel, our man at the scene has the full story. Karl?"

"Thankyou, Greta.

"As Greta said, peace was not the aim of the negotiations earlier today as Oberstgruppenführer Schrober ordered an attack during the cease fire. A nuclear submarine, purposefully not declared during the assembly of the task force, launched a series of missiles at one of the airbases under construction on the island of Crete.
Enemy casualties are expected to be very high...
"Now for the sport with..."
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 02:52
OOC: Dude, like I said, you can't sneak SF into Cyprus. We're blowing up everything that's coming in aside from Allied units. I'll recognize and post losses for the missile attack though.

IC:

As the missiles smashed into the construction, many Tyrandis and civilian conscript workers were killed by the blasts.

Losses:

570 engineering workers.
1066 civilian conscripts.

---

"You have roused our wrath, Aryans. Tyrandis will not allow this act of war to go unpunished...

You will either cease these attacks or suffer an end more terrible than that of Austo Hungary."

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Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of State

---

Aboard the Wolfhound-I Fenrir-class anti-ship Ekranoplan...

"Sir, I have sonar confirmation of enemy submarine... requesting orders!" shouted a detection steward, looking at the blip of red onscreen.

"Flood all torpedo tubes. All hands on deck, battlestations!"

The Ekranoplan fired fifteen torpedoes at the sub, and alerted the main Wolfpack of the enemy...

---

Millions of Tyrandis personnel were called up for a possible invasion of New Aryan State, if necessary. The holocaust of Austo Hungary would pale in comparison to the fate that would befall NAS...
Chellis
12-06-2004, 02:58
[code:1:8724c32d27]
To: New Aryan State
From: Chellian CCCB

We are interested in funding your war with tyrandis, as we feel his warmongering ways are dangerous to our world, although we dont want to seem like there is a blood fued between the two of us. If you need anything for the fight, defidentally ask. We would like to contribute military equipment and economic support for your military, and if you deem it appropriate, a few chellian volksjaeger foreign divisions(Basically, a division made up of non blood-chellians, meaning mostly africans and elves, and foreign volunteers...). We do need to know what exactly you need, or at least what type of equipment you like(aka american, russian, french, etc...)[/code:1:8724c32d27]
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 03:08
OOC: OMG!!! I have an abbreviation! COOL! Right, soz. No more naval ops, then.

Inside Oberstgruppenführer Schrober's Command vehicle...

Schrober: Is there any response?
Liutenant: No, herr Schrober.
Schrober: Damn. I was hoping to provoke them into an attack. Hrm, are the V3's in place?
Liutenant: Ja, herr Schrober.
Schrober nods
Schrober: Entrench the tanks, and radio a request for the remaining SS units and eight Wehmacht battalions, then hit them.
Liutenant: Ja, herr Schrober.
Schrober: Dismissed.
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 03:10
NWS, can you explain military's orginization? PLEASE???? :oops:
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 03:27
OOC: NAS, could you please explain where exactly these troops are coming from? You have to bring your forces over the sea, meaning that you'd have to fight the Allied navy to land them.

If your forces are in Greece, you should know that I have no troops there. Basically, the Allies have seized Cyprus and are conducting negotiations with G&C. I don't know about the others though.

IC:

TNIA operatives intercepted the message from Chellis (OOC: You never said it was secret, right?) and sent the info on to higher command.

Upon hearing that the Chellians were prepared to interfere in the Tyrandis mission, Executor Xavier Davidson burst into rage, screaming various profanties. After he settled down, he changed the military policy regarding POWs of Chellis.

Instead of standard treatment, any POW of Chellis is now considered an illegal combatant, and will be excluded from any human-rights treaty signed by the government.
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 03:31
OOC: Well, assuming you meant NAS rather than NWS, I've got (Approx, not taking into account sick leave and grandmother's birthdays)

12000 SS Troopers
44000 Wehrmacht(1/10 of whom are Sturmgrenadier's - Elite of Wehrmacht)
1800 Leopard Mk II's and around 2000 armoured cars
give/take 600 ME 99B's
And 1 battalion (1000 men) of GSG9

Of course they're in bloody Greece, where else COULD they be?
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 03:31
Feel free to surrender to my Skaven and allied Tau NAS, we will treat you hospitably....
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 03:35
OOC: Who? WHAT? I thought you were on MY side!
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 03:40
No, I'm in the same alliance IDF, sorry, "maybe betrayel", NO, begun evil thoughts, "but betrayel will make this interesting", and get us...me killed, go away, you don't exist, "oh but I do, you know you want to, support him, support him", NO(at this point The Horned Rat curls up in a corner and continues a gollum like conversation only without the weird voice....
Chellis
12-06-2004, 03:44
Tyrandis, I used code /code... I assumed everyone used that for private messages, as I have never seen someone try to itnercept one IC... Regardless, I do except it to be a secret message, I'm too busy with other things to do anything more than proxy war in this case...
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 03:46
The chancellor expresses support for the action thought of by The Horned Rat's voices
[code:1:12373d1f3f]To: The Chellisian Ambassador

The chancellor has considered your offer and decided to accept all terms, he also requests the the weaponry be the simple, reliable AK-47.
[/code:1:12373d1f3f]
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 03:47
OOC: I recall everyone using code tags in secret always had Secret IC before them.

EDIT: NAS, read the rest of my post.

I have no troops in Greece.

I think West Cedarbrook was planning an invasion, and Ruby Villa has some intel operatives there, but I'm not sure.

IC:

To further cement the alliance with The Horned Rat, Tyrandis has sent over the last of the fascist prisoners to their nation, for whatever sick purposes they may want them for, free of charge.

However, Tyrandis requests that videotape of what you do with them is sent back, if you do have "fun"... :twisted:
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 03:57
OOC: I know you have none in Greece, I never said you did. You're in Cyprus, I'm in Greece, with your navy between us.
Tyrandis
12-06-2004, 04:05
OOC: Roger that.

A breakdown of what has happened..

- G&C dirty-bombs IDF
- G&C founds anti-Zionist group
- G&C murders Jewish population
- Tyrandis declares war on G&C
- Allies join
- Many airstrikes
- EMP/Cruise missile attack on Cyprus beachheads
- Airborne units attack and drive back G&C forces
- Armor and conventional infantry arrive, crushing all resistance on Cyprus
- Nicosia is captured
- Cyprus is under Allied control
- NAS arrives, cruise missiles an in-construction airbase
- Tyrandis navy sinks said submarine
Chellis
12-06-2004, 04:07
OOC: Then for consideration of you and others, I will put a Secret tag on my secret messages. Ohh, and sorry, but its chellian... I got a pet peeve about chellisian...

IC:
[code:1:f40f55e391]
To: NAS Government
From: CCCB

We will send you a good amount of the guns and especially lots of ammunition. We will also send you a number of Leopard 2a6 tanks, Mig 29 fighter jets, Mi-24 Hinds, and RPG-7's, AT-14's, Kord 12.7mm Machine guns, and SVD Dragunov Snipers... They will be sent through the chellian merchant marine, under the guise of regular trade, probably will say its raw minerals and assorted merchandise, I dunno... Just make sure you can transport them in discreet vehicles, so we dont look incriminating...

(This has been a secret message)[/code:1:f40f55e391]
The Horned Rat
12-06-2004, 04:14
Even the skaven part of my mind has been overwhelmed by this offer of a human test subject...
Videotape
The picture is slightley fuzzy and comes into focus on a "large"(fat and short) skaven, Throt, he is busy humming a tune to himself while he lays out many rusted saw-toothed blades beside a groaning human. "One-two, stitch and snatch, new-minds for all, snatch and stitch and set and soon"
The human groarned, "Who the hell are you, where am I, le..."
Throt grabbed his skull with lightning speed using his third arm, the other arm clamped a lock on his head so he wouldn't wriggle. Releasing with his third arm he shuffled over to a stack of shelves and grabbed a black box and some thread. Throt settled his massive bulk on a crude stool next to the halpless victim. The prisoner could feel the very evil radiating from the box as it was opened. Inside was a vial with a liquid that glowed like plutonium, warpstone. "Wha-what are yo-you going to do tto me", Throts only reply was his own warpstone eye glowing brighter and the same lyric "One-two, stitch and snatch, new-minds for all, snatch and stitch and set and soon". Throt was oblivious to his pleadings as he descended a curved blade twoards the prisoners head, all the while (i'll just call the prisoner john ok) jon screamed, but to no avail, Throt revealed no joy or sdaness at this, only madness. The next minute is filled with lowering moans and bloody sounding sawing. When throt steps out of the way he is clutching a oval like object and the skull of jon is split like a glistening flower. Depositing the brain in a jar, Throt suffled of in the dark where loud roars and screams came from before. Throt returned and was clutching a "walnut" to the un-examining eyes. He dropped it in and began to stich and sow while apply warpstone and humming a different lyric now "Soon you'll see, saw and snatch and swap and sew and set. It works, my pretties. It does...hhmmm". Finally finished Throt shuffled over to a switch, pulling down green energy blinded all but throt, a new screaching was heard. Coming from jon, his eyes filled with hate Throt released the locks and gripped the abomination by the neck with creature-killer. Dragging it to a cage door he smashed "jon into the door opening it and sending him sprwaling to the floor. Throt said one more thing before the rcording ended "Go now, play with the other pets. Find the surface if you can and feed, yes" he crooned as the tape died.

The tape was sent as requested.
The New Aryan State
12-06-2004, 04:19
At Oberstgruppenführer Schrober's new Athens strategy room...

Liutenant: Herr Schrober! The Chellian supplies have arrived!
Schrober: Good. Use the chinooks to transport them home, but refuel at our airport in Spain first, Tyrandis' fleet covers the exits from the meditarranean so tell them to go overland when possible.
Liutenant: Ja, herr Schrober!
West Cedarbrook
12-06-2004, 20:06
We are in occupation of Cyprus along with othe Allied forces. There are no plans for invasion of Greece yet.
Tyrandis
13-06-2004, 16:01
OOC: From the looks of things, G&C is ignoring this because he knew he was screwed beyond all reason. :?

Oh well. We still own Cyprus :D
13-06-2004, 16:09
LOLOLOLOL

I ignored you because you godmodded, according to IDF he managed to invade a densely military populated island with hi-tech weaponry with absaloutely no casualties.

Nobody else cares about your 'invasion' because it was ignored you jew lovers. So scuttle along and go and be sad somewhere else.
The Horned Rat
13-06-2004, 17:06
IC:A VERY SECRET message was written, in the (un)holy language of the Skaven, all Warlords and Chieftains were sent this began to bark out orders, and just as the mysterious message arrived, the Skaven and Tau began to pull out...
OOC:I don't know how all of you will react, but this has been a fun RP and a new war has called me out. Good luck to *mumblemumble*
IDF
14-06-2004, 02:05
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=145581&highlight=

we must crush this group (G&C is in it) I say invade Greece.

OOC: Greece and Cyprus said by TG he is ignoring it due to godmodding, but can't seem to give an example. He is ignoring me, but not everyone else it seems
The New Aryan State
14-06-2004, 04:09
The NAS withdraws all troops from Greece, due to inactivity and the wish to stay alive.
IDF
14-06-2004, 05:39
LOLOLOLOL

I ignored you because you godmodded, according to IDF he managed to invade a densely military populated island with hi-tech weaponry with absaloutely no casualties.

Nobody else cares about your 'invasion' because it was ignored you jew lovers. So scuttle along and go and be sad somewhere else.

It is REAL hard to post casualties when there is no counter-attack. I have a proposition for you, how about we redo it and this time please counter-attack? FINE with you?
Tyrandis
20-06-2004, 04:32
OOC: Since Greece and Cyprus no longer exists, I'm nuking his nation to oblivion.

IC:

Ten TSB-8 bombers took off from the new airstrips constructed by Allied engineering. Inside, each carried a nuclear payload...

"This is Phoenix-1-1," radioed the lead pilot to the other planes in the squadron. "All bombers, move to your targets as highlighted on Doppler radar."

The TSB-8s flew over the relatively peaceful countryside of Greece. As they approached the major cities, each of the bomber pilots said their own prayer to God, asking forgiveness for the death and destruction they would cause...

"Bombs away." said Phoenix-1-1, pulling the trigger on the flight joystick.

As the device fell upon the unsuspecting populace, the Tyrandis bombers quickly swerved upwards.

The resulting mushroom cloud rattled windows and nerves. Greece was utterly devastated...

---

Meanwhile, the invasion took place. All of the Tyrandis divisions hit the beaches, screaming the warcries of the Triumviate.

They cut a swath of utter devastation through the land.

Villages were set to the torch as artillery units pounded on the flimsy houses. In each town the Tyrandis forces captured, they found more and more evidence of the genocide of Greece and Cyprus.

Enraged, the soldiers adopted a scorched earth policy. Nothing remained in any area controlled by Tyrandis. After an initial pillaging for supplies, the Tyrandis forces would set men, women, and children to the firing squads.

The corpses piled high, leaving the country reeking of death.

Finally, the only area not under control of Tyrandis was the capital of Athens. After a brief, day-long siege, the ancient and beautiful city was taken...

And obliterated. Great examples of architecture and religion were destroyed. The grand city was razed by the infantrymen...

All of the Athenians were arrested and forced to dig a massive pit. After they were pushed in by bayonet-wielding MPs, the pit was set ablaze.

Finally, the war was over. The bloodline of G&C was wiped out, and the Tyrandis forces returned home in triumph and victory.
Daleys Chicago
20-06-2004, 05:44
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Now live from Michigan Ave. in Downtown Chicago it's time for WGN News at 9. Now we have new news announcers Hawk Harrelson and Darrin Jackson.

Hawk: Our top story tonight, Greece and Cyprus has been defeated. What is your commentary on this DJ?

Darrin: HE GONE!

Hawk: Tyrandis nukes them and the war is over.
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Mayor Richard Daley announced City wide celebrations on this victory during the opening ceremonies for taste of Chicago.

DJ: Now onto sports. The Sox traded evil closer Billy Koch to the Marlins for a minor leaguer and cash.

Hawk: Koch tradeddddddd eee YES!
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