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Praetonia Launches the Tempest Class Nuclear Carrier

Praetonia
01-06-2004, 10:33
Earlier today the first Praetonian built carrier slipped out of the Feles Industries' shipyard in Praeton to applause from thousands of Praetonians who came down to watch.

The ship, the PWS Tempest, was designed to be a symbol of Praetonia's growing strength and influence on the world stage, as well as filling a much need position in the Praetonian Navy, that for a large carrier to head Carrier Strike Groups.


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1351/TempestClassNuclearCarrier.JPG

Length: 350m
Beam: 85m
Draught: 12.2m
Crew:: 2750 Naval; 1750 Air Wing; 55 Flag
Displacement: 104,632 tonnes
Speed:: 32knts
Range: Limited only by nuclear fuel
Armament: 32 Cell GO-92 Anti-Ship VLS; 64 Cell GO-95 Anti-Air VLS; 4 Depth Charge Launchers; 2 Torpedo Tubes Below Waterline For / Aft; 6 GO-98 ‘Testudo’ CIWS; 4 30mm Cannon
Helicopters: 6 ASW Helicopters; 2 Air-Sea Rescue and Utility Helicopters
Aircraft: 64 Standard Fit (56 fighter, light bomber, or JSF style aircraft; 4 AWAC; 4 re-supply); 72 in Time of War (64 fighter, light bomber, or JSF style aircraft; 4 AWAC; 4 re-supply) ; 85 for Short Stretches Only (72 fight, light bomber, or JSF style aircraft; 4 AWAC; 6 re-supply)
Elevators: Four, Two per Runway
Air Search Radar: GO-82 A ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Surface Search Radar: GO-82 B ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Fire Control Radar: GO-83 ‘Simplex’ Phased Array
ASW Sonar: GO-87 DETAR phased Sonar and towed Sonar array (active / passive)
Propulsion: Two GNO-01 Nuclear Engines, each attached to a single shaft, each with two five bladed propellers

The Tempest Class Nuclear Carrier is not only the first Carrier produced by Praetonia, but also the first large Praetonian-built warship and the first Praetonian vehicle to use Nuclear energy as a means of propulsion.

The carrier is slightly bigger than the American USS Enterprise, featuring a larger aircraft capacity, two runways (neither slanted) and a full array of weapons, including anti ship, anti air and anti submarine systems. The ship also features a Praetonian built CIWS system and a full range of countermeasure systems.

The ship has facilities for both Command and Control and electronics warfare, as it is designed to be the most powerful ship in any fleet, able to fill any role at least as well as a specialized frigate or destroyer.

A helicopter assault version has also been designed, using the same basic systems but with the planes and hangars replaced with space for 100 helicopters and 2,500 marines. Therefore, a single basic design can fill two main requirements of the Praetonian Navy making for increased efficiency at a decreased cost.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 11:11
bump for comments, complaints, compliments and critisicm.
Aequatio
01-06-2004, 11:16
I'm not sure if loading it with its own weapons is a good idea, the purpose of a carrier is to provide a mobile airfield and a forward presence in a conflict area. I think that just giving it weapons for Anti-Air purposes would suit it just fine, like Sea Sparrow missiles and Phalanx mounts and have it rely on smaller ships like cruisers and destroyers to take on enemy ships and submarines.

But other than that, it seems pretty good for a small/medium-sized carrier. Good for small operations and strike groups.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 11:22
Small? That thing's bigger than a Nimitz! How big are big carriers on NS?

Anyway thanks for the comments. The armament is just my personal choice, I like all my ships to be able to defend themselves against most anything, and VLS launchers dont weigh much more anyway.
Independent Hitmen
01-06-2004, 11:24
Carriers on NS can get bloody huge!

For instance i recently purchased a carrier from somebody (cant remember name atm ill get it) that can carry 192 aircraft!

Also your carrier looks pretty good, although being able to hold a few more aircraft on future models would probably help you too.

EDIT: Heres the link to that one http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139091&highlight=
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 11:27
Wow I never knew that. Well the Tempest is big enough to meet my requirements right now.

EDIT: It's good to see that Hamptonshire give his carriers lots of weapons too.

EDIT2: How much do you think I should sell this for, if I shose to sell it?
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 12:01
bumpita
Sarzonia
01-06-2004, 16:03
bumpita

[OOC: I'm more in favor of giving aircraft carriers their own weapons in the event that the escort doesn't get the job done than other countries are.

Also, the comment about NS carriers being enormous is pretty spot on. Your ship's medium-large in the RL world, but it may be medium-small in the NS world.

I would probably set a price of about $3.9 billion U.S. on that carrier, but I'm not entirely familiar with pricing requirements. Great Mateo is better in that arena than I am.]
Neo-angleterra
01-06-2004, 16:28
It's very pretty and everything, execpt I fail to see where the alll aeroplanes go?, it's a fairly padatantic question I know, but it's an important one!!!
Gaia Rodina
01-06-2004, 16:33
Tis bloody small for a NS carrier. I mean, my Lenin class carriers pack a pair of 30" guns AND 200 planes. Nimitzs aren't really used much anymore.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 16:45
I didn't know this...

But then NS is pretty screwed-up navy wise, like how missiles and destroyed never replaced guns and battlehips. Oh well it's good enough for me right now.

Neo-Angleterre:

They go under the deck. Where do you think they go on RL carriers?
Neo-angleterra
01-06-2004, 16:48
Well I presumed they sat on the tarmac on the deck!!!
Granzi
01-06-2004, 17:13
Wow I never knew that. Well the Tempest is big enough to meet my requirements right now.

EDIT: It's good to see that Hamptonshire give his carriers lots of weapons too.

EDIT2: How much do you think I should sell this for, if I shose to sell it?

I would price a carrier of this size in my storefront at around $2.5 billion. My largest carrier is the Vengence, it carries 125 aircraft. I try not to go overboard, as I want it to remain realistic. :wink:
Sarzonia
01-06-2004, 17:16
But then NS is pretty screwed-up navy wise, like how missiles and destroyed never replaced guns and battlehips. Oh well it's good enough for me right now.

I think it really depends on the NS nation. I think the battleship proved it's still relevant in RL but obviously, some folks in the U.S. Navy have a different opinion from mine.

Those missiles that can damage a modern-day ship have all kinds of trouble penetrating an Iowa-class battleship's armor. Besides, the same kind of defenses that can knock down missiles aren't nearly as effective as enormous shells flying your way. The first Persian Gulf War proved that IMO.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 18:06
But still, a destroyer with a 32cell VLS can destroy a battleship without a huge amount of trouble, as can aircraft carriers. The battleship is nice to have if you have so much money you dont know what to do with, but they aren't in any way neccessary.
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 18:41
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 18:50
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 18:51
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 18:58
Well, depends on the batteship you go up against. Certainly one of Doujin's modern trimiran types with modern composite armour isnt going to struggle to put a small navy of 32cell VLS armed destroyers out of commission.

It is relatively easy to protect warships, and the huge hulls of battleships allow the carriage of large number of weapons, not just big guns.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 19:29
That's mainly because by the time Doujin's battleship would be built (if this was RL), 32cell destroyers would be a thing of the past. With our warped time system you get annomolies.
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 19:34
Well, no, not really, we are talking about the mackensens and Thunder childs (not the big one)

Defending against most SSMs in service requires only a few inches of steel (I believe around 3" for Exocet and around 5" for a Harpoon, thats the actual penetrative capability). A Iowa built with modern composites would wipe the floor with any ship in current service. Normal battleships are excellent weapon systems in terms of survivability.
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 19:36
Not when you have planes dropping bombs on them.
The Freethinkers
01-06-2004, 19:38
Niether is anything else, and a plane isnt a 32 Cell VLS destroyer now :wink:
Crookfur
01-06-2004, 19:43
Except planes have to get within 5-10 miles to use bombs which is well within reach of msot naval SAM systems and often they have to get closer.

All ships have thier roles, a decent battle group needs both carriers and armoured vessels and needs to know how to use both so that they complement each other.
Doujin
01-06-2004, 19:43
OOC: *notes that the Yamatto survived 12+ 500lb bombs from planes..*
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 19:48
*Hides from the Naval wisdom of Doujin*

I agree they are useful, but they aren't entire neccessary in a modern strike group. Most nations that I've spoken to say that they'd simply nuke a Doujin Class if it attacked.
Sarzonia
01-06-2004, 19:49
*Hides from the Naval wisdom of Doujin*

I agree they are useful, but they aren't entire neccessary in a modern strike group. Most nations that I've spoken to say that they'd simply nuke a Doujin Class if it attacked.

[OOC: Nukes or tungsten rods, as in my case. :P]
Praetonia
01-06-2004, 20:00
And indeed mine. I gotone of those Rods of God satellites off of the AMF vs Austo Hungary bet. Slice right through the Doujin.