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The cheapest, best carrier that can be supplied with a full crew and airwing will be bought. 10 of them. They need to be new, hold at least 85 airplanes, and be nuclear.

The top designs will be listed here....and I will buy them on the spot for immediate delivery.

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Happy auctioning.

Your best bet is to go look for any naval ship threads that are selling Charles De Gaulle-class carriers. They are the newest nuclear powered aircraft carriers and they are a great value.

Your best bet is to go look for any naval ship threads that are selling Charles De Gaulle-class carriers. They are the newest nuclear powered aircraft carriers and they are a great value.

:arrow: but tehy are FRENCH!!!!! :evil: :x :shock: :(

I would suggest visiting the HDC's carrier section (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=343) for all your aircraft carrier needs. The two of them there should be more than suitable for your needs.

How do you plan on paying for 10 aircraft carriers?

Lest you relegate yourself to the "st00p1d n00b" category, look at your population.

14 million isn't enough to support one nuclear carrier, the US (real life) at 250-300 million can only afford 12 after all. Check the navies of some RL countries and the following threads (sorry, can't remember how to put in links):

Military calculator
http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/index.html

Nation States FAQ (especially godmoding and military threads)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=144095

I can give you F-35A JSF (stealth) for $35 million each to go along with the carriers

Lest you relegate yourself to the "st00p1d n00b" category, look at your population.

14 million isn't enough to support one nuclear carrier, the US (real life) at 250-300 million can only afford 12 after all. Check the navies of some RL countries and the following threads (sorry, can't remember how to put in links):

Military calculator
http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/index.html

Nation States FAQ (especially godmoding and military threads)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774

Look at France, they have about 60 million people and they have one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. England has about the same population as them and they plan on building two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, if I am correct, with the possibility of France have some role in the project.
Light-red Germany, I wouldn't worry about the others say, before you know it your nation will more then likely surpass that population number, which will more then justify you having a nuclear-powered carrier.

Light red germany Gross Domestic Product
Population: 16,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $400,000,000,000
National Budget: $166,899,200,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 8.34%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 20%
Military Budget: $33,379,840,000

Enough for:
1,073 F-15Es, or...
1,668 Su-34s, or...
1,775 F-16s, or...
3,034 MiG 29s, or...
7,762 M1A2 Abrams, or...
11,126 T-90s, or...
56,962,184 M-16s, or...
111,266,133 AK47s



He can perhaps afford one or two, but only at an extreme cost to his military and economy and he definitely can't afford ten. Carriers cost around $5-6 billion USD on average and that isn't even counting the air wing or the crew pay or the food or the fuel for the aircraft or the munitions or the usual repairs or the training costs, etc etc etc. Having just one will be pushing it and it will basically keep him from spending any money on the rest of his military for a fiscal year.

Lest you relegate yourself to the "st00p1d n00b" category, look at your population.

14 million isn't enough to support one nuclear carrier, the US (real life) at 250-300 million can only afford 12 after all. Check the navies of some RL countries and the following threads (sorry, can't remember how to put in links):

Military calculator
http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/index.html

Nation States FAQ (especially godmoding and military threads)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774

Look at France, they have about 60 million people and they have one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. England has about the same population as them and they plan on building two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, if I am correct, with the possibility of France have some role in the project.
Light-red Germany, I wouldn't worry about the others say, before you know it your nation will more then likely surpass that population number, which will more then justify you having a nuclear-powered carrier.

The UK is buying two conventionally powered carriers and there is some concern, with all the defence cuts, whether the RN can afford both of them still. Nuclear increases costs markedly, especially with the problematic CdG design (reactor shielding problems, propeller problems, deck extensions required). Best to go conventional and small in the short term, something like a Dédalo, Invincible, or Giuseppe Garibaldi, and those are pretty darn expensive once you factor in aircraft and escorts....

now lets see.

$2,400,000,000 for Carrack Class Frigates.
$1,500,000,000 for Corsair Class Carrier.
$2,200,000,000 for Kidd Class Destroyers.
$1,500,000,000 for Capitol Class Cruisers.
$1,350,000,000 for F-92 Narwhale Fighters.
$75,000,000 for KA-28 Helix ASW Helos.
$100,000,000 for YaK-44E AWACS Craft.
$360,000,000 for S-3E ASW Aircraft.

total: $9,485,000,000 (about 9.5 billion USD) for 1 CVL Carrier Battlegroup.

of course, i am not selling all this. just demonstrating the price for even a small Carrier BATTLE Group

now lets see.

$2,400,000,000 for Carrack Class Frigates.
$1,500,000,000 for Corsair Class Carrier.
$2,200,000,000 for Kidd Class Destroyers.
$1,500,000,000 for Capitol Class Cruisers.
$1,350,000,000 for F-92 Narwhale Fighters.
$75,000,000 for KA-28 Helix ASW Helos.
$100,000,000 for YaK-44E AWACS Craft.
$360,000,000 for S-3E ASW Aircraft.

total: $9,485,000,000 (about 9.5 million USD) for 1 CVL Carrier Battlegroup.

of course, i am not selling all this. just demonstrating the price for even a small Carrier BATTLE Group

Modest correction: I think you mean $9.5 billion USD.

Lest you relegate yourself to the "st00p1d n00b" category, look at your population.

14 million isn't enough to support one nuclear carrier, the US (real life) at 250-300 million can only afford 12 after all. Check the navies of some RL countries and the following threads (sorry, can't remember how to put in links):

Military calculator
http://www.geocities.com/thecitizensdefencealliance/index.html

Nation States FAQ (especially godmoding and military threads)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774

Look at France, they have about 60 million people and they have one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. England has about the same population as them and they plan on building two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, if I am correct, with the possibility of France have some role in the project.
Light-red Germany, I wouldn't worry about the others say, before you know it your nation will more then likely surpass that population number, which will more then justify you having a nuclear-powered carrier.

The UK is buying two conventionally powered carriers and there is some concern, with all the defence cuts, whether the RN can afford both of them still. Nuclear increases costs markedly, especially with the problematic CdG design (reactor shielding problems, propeller problems, deck extensions required). Best to go conventional and small in the short term, something like a Dédalo, Invincible, or Giuseppe Garibaldi, and those are pretty darn expensive once you factor in aircraft and escorts....

You have a vaild point right there. Having a nuclear-powered carrier is a big risk on many scales and not all nations are suited to have one.
Also, not every nation is exactly interested in obtaining one either.
I think in the near future, once electron-powered aircraft carriers are built, nuclear carriers will become a thing of the past.
The United States Navy is working on a project called DD21. Its a new class of naval destroyers that operate on electricty-based energy.
This means that the ship's attack and defense systems will operate seperately from the engine and propulsion units. This means that the crew will be able to channel the energy throughout the ship without having to concentrate all its power on firing its missles or guns or just keeping the ship afloat. The new system will allow the ships to multi-task.