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<<LOCATION: NEW MOSCOW, PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF GAIA RODINA>>

Fellow lovers of peace and freedom, hear our plea. The Imperialst nation of Doujin is striking again, this time in our peaceful republic of Gaia Rodina. We have done nothing to agitate the Doujin beast, we have simply strived to construct a dreadnought of our own so that we can defend ourselves against such an assault. Doujin simply wants to remove any potential competition from the Antarctic region. The Doujini forces are vowing to destroy civilian areas and major food production areas.

Already, the forces of The Snowy Lands of Antarctica are mobilizing, and our entire defense force is on high alert. However, we fear this may not be enough.

It is time, fellow leaders of the free world. It is time to finally put down this rabid beast that is Doujin. As our navies sail out to meet this foe, we can only hope that others of you have the courage to aid an innocent people.

Let freedom ring.

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((This is the thread. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3237414#3237414))

My army is spread to thin for the time being, if you are ectremely desperate I could send in my automobiles with machinegun mounts

Cam III will help.

I would help if I had any real navy. But I don't. If Doujin starts to destroy your civilian centers, a nuclear response may be in order.

If it becomes a land war I will send troops (note my military is underdeveloped)

OOC: You realize Doujin hasn't actually done anything yet aside from parade a fancy fleet near your territory?

That is a kind of a threat in its self...

If this turns into a solely naval war, then sorry, we cannot help - though we've made efforts to make our navy a force to be reckoned with, Doujin is and always will be far in advance of our abilities.

If it comes to a forceful invasion we will assist you in any way we can in defending your nation, though CF, we don't condone the use of nuclear weapons except as an absolute last resort.

Hell, this isn't even looking like any sort of war yet, just stating our position.

OOC:

Yea, but he's acting like Doujin has already launched an assault against him. I'm also privy to knowledge that the rest of you aren't at the moment. ^_^

IC:

While we can understand why Gaia Rodina would increase its defensive alertness along its coast, it is senseless to sail out to do battle with Doujin's fleet while no shots have been fired and a diplomatic solution to any possible future conflict is still very possible. This, in our eyes, is asking for a war.

Does Gaia Rodina not think that trying to "construct a dreadnought of our own so that we can defend ourselves against such an assault" prompted this? Did it never occur to your government that Doujin didn't even deign to know of your existance and that by building this ship you stated to the world that Gaia Rodina was an enemy of Doujin?

We warn that if any nation outside of Doujin and those in the Antarctic region get involved the interferers will have to do with the Imperium. Do not take this threat mildly, few nations in the world have more powerful navies.

If Doujin's fleet does decide to attack major population centers, a nuclear attack on the fleet may be the only option.

Doujin's fleet is massive and extremely powerful. The only real way to beat it without nukes is with better ships (unlikely) or more ships (possible but not too likely.) Thus, nukes may be required.

That is a kind of a threat in its self...

OOC: It may seem like a threat, but ICly, you have no idea why Doujin's fleet is sitting *near* their territory, you only know that it is.

And Gaia, you can't say that Doujinishi forces have vowed to do something when they didn't say anything publicly.

IC:

Lietuveska is outraged at this call to arms, when the Doujinishi Navy has done nothing to suggest an impending attack. They have simply moved a fleet near your waters, and there is no harm in that. There is no evidence so far that Doujin is attempting an invasion or attack. And you speak lies of the Doujinishi forces "vowing to destroy civilian areas and major food production areas." Doujin has made no such statement, and we are extremely angered that Gaia Rodina would dare have the arrogance to make such baseless claims.

And be aware that any naval yard that you have built shall never compete or rival the power of Doujin's, so do not waste time in thinking so.


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OOC: You realize Doujin hasn't actually done anything yet aside from parade a fancy fleet near your territory?

Do you really not see his intentions? I gathered his plans out of his imperialistic RP. Here they are.


...Starting at Polyarny, the Fleet would bombard the entire nation into an oblivion....


....The men, all ready for battle, talked jokingly about how easy it would be to dispatch the Gaia Rodinan and her allies fleets, and how easy it would be to utterly destroy the coast and inland of Gaia Rodina....

...Their orders were clear - to destroy the threat that eminated from Gaia Rodina and Dancing Moose, and to do so with extreme prejudice. To target their civilians, their food stores, their women and children - to teach them a lesson for questioning the Empire of Doujin....

OOC: You realize Doujin hasn't actually done anything yet aside from parade a fancy fleet near your territory?

Do you really not see his intentions? I gathered his plans out of his imperialistic RP. Here they are.


...Starting at Polyarny, the Fleet would bombard the entire nation into an oblivion....


....The men, all ready for battle, talked jokingly about how easy it would be to dispatch the Gaia Rodinan and her allies fleets, and how easy it would be to utterly destroy the coast and inland of Gaia Rodina....

...Their orders were clear - to destroy the threat that eminated from Gaia Rodina and Dancing Moose, and to do so with extreme prejudice. To target their civilians, their food stores, their women and children - to teach them a lesson for questioning the Empire of Doujin....

OOC: You realize your nation couldn't possibly know that? I've also briefly discussed this with Doujin, so hold your horses.

OOC: You realize Doujin hasn't actually done anything yet aside from parade a fancy fleet near your territory?

Do you really not see his intentions? I gathered his plans out of his imperialistic RP. Here they are.


...Starting at Polyarny, the Fleet would bombard the entire nation into an oblivion....


....The men, all ready for battle, talked jokingly about how easy it would be to dispatch the Gaia Rodinan and her allies fleets, and how easy it would be to utterly destroy the coast and inland of Gaia Rodina....

...Their orders were clear - to destroy the threat that eminated from Gaia Rodina and Dancing Moose, and to do so with extreme prejudice. To target their civilians, their food stores, their women and children - to teach them a lesson for questioning the Empire of Doujin....
Would seem like a threat if I were you

OOC:

Don't you people realize that just because it's written doesn't mean your government knows it?? :roll:

All of you are not taking seriously what Doujin has planned to do. Just read what he said. He clearly wants us gone. Why? I have no idea. I have never done anything to him to deserve what he wishes to do to me.

Scandavian States, I dont care if you help him. If he comes within 200 miles of Antarctic shorelines it will be declared an act of war. The entire Region of the Snowy Lands of Antarctica is prepared to fight as well as other allies of mine (which include other regions) and all of the people in this thread who wish to help us (Dr. Twist and Cam).

So Doujin, its your move. I hate that it ever had to come to this. I think your actions here are unjust and hasty. There is no need to go to war here when we have done nothing.

OOC:

Was that last post supposed to be IC or OOC? o_O

And you seem to be ignoring everything I've said and the fact Doujin has thus far committed no acts of war. You're just looking for a fight.

OOC: Fine, then I will keep this Out of Character. All of what I have said above is out of character.

OOC:

Was that last post supposed to be IC or OOC? o_O

And you seem to be ignoring everything I've said and the fact Doujin has thus far committed no acts of war. You're just looking for a fight.

OOC: In an out of character sense, he has planned to go to war. Im not the one who is looking for a fight. Nothing at all would have happened between me and him if he hadnt have made that post.

OOC:

Don't you people realize that just because it's written doesn't mean your government knows it?? :roll:

Like I said, it will continue OOC

OOC:

Was that last post supposed to be IC or OOC? o_O

And you seem to be ignoring everything I've said and the fact Doujin has thus far committed no acts of war. You're just looking for a fight.

[OOC: I think it depends on your definition of "near." If Doujin has sent a fleet into Gaia Rodina's waters, that could be considered an act of war if relations between the two countries aren't good.

I'd be in a dilemma if Doujin sent his ships to Sarzonian waters because our relations are strained, but we're both part of the same alliance (Organization of Maritime Powers). If a country like Granzi or Isselmere sent a bunch of ships to my area, they wouldn't be considered hostile because we're not only part of the same alliance, but we also have strong relations with both countries.]

Sarzonia wishes to announce a policy of neutrality in this escalation of tensions between Gaia Rodina and Doujin. We will be monitoring the situation between the countries very carefully.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

OOC:

Yea, but he's acting like Doujin has already launched an assault against him. I'm also privy to knowledge that the rest of you aren't at the moment. ^_^

IC:

While we can understand why Gaia Rodina would increase its defensive alertness along its coast, it is senseless to sail out to do battle with Doujin's fleet while no shots have been fired and a diplomatic solution to any possible future conflict is still very possible. This, in our eyes, is asking for a war.

OOC: You should be asking Doujin to handle this diplomatically, not us. We did not start this nor do we want it. He will be the one to fire shots first, not us.

OOC: I'm amazed to see that OOC knowledge is being used to argue a IC defence... ohwell. So much for roleplay huh?

In character Doujin has done nothing to suggest he is going to attack, any IC responces to OOC information will be ignored and advice will be given to Doujin to ignore these nations, who clearly have not concept of the difference between annoucing information and RPing a meeting in their nation which only they can know about.

They are not asking Doujin to deal with this diplomatically because he hasn't actually done anything, GM has grasped this so he's asking IC that reacting to nothing is asking for war.

OOC: I'm amazed to see that OOC knowledge is being used to argue a IC defence... ohwell. So much for roleplay huh?

In character Doujin has done nothing to suggest he is going to attack, any IC responces to OOC information will be ignored and advice will be given to Doujin to ignore these nations, who clearly have not concept of the difference between annoucing information and RPing a meeting in their nation which only they can know about.

They are not asking Doujin to deal with this diplomatically because he hasn't actually done anything, GM has grasped this so he's asking IC that reacting to nothing is asking for war.

Iuthia, thanks for you most expected 'help' here, but I have already (and rather rudely I might add) been informed that this whole thing is some kind of sick joke, so it is nothing to get further worried about.

The Veritasean government requests that all nations involved step back and take a deep breath. It appears to us that actions are being taken on extremely vague and faulty intelligence and that, unless these spiraling actions are stopped, war will be inevitable. We firmly believe that a diplomatic solution is possible in this crisis if, indeed, it is a crisis at all. A conflict with the Doujinian navy is not something to be undertaken lightly, particularly not over such faulty reasons as those previously stated. The Veritasean Imperial Navy, although one of the larger on NS, will not interfere in this conflict unless further information, pointing strongly in one direction, is developed.

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OOC: I'm amazed to see that OOC knowledge is being used to argue a IC defence... ohwell. So much for roleplay huh?

In character Doujin has done nothing to suggest he is going to attack, any IC responces to OOC information will be ignored and advice will be given to Doujin to ignore these nations, who clearly have not concept of the difference between annoucing information and RPing a meeting in their nation which only they can know about.

They are not asking Doujin to deal with this diplomatically because he hasn't actually done anything, GM has grasped this so he's asking IC that reacting to nothing is asking for war.

Iuthia, thanks for you most expected 'help' here, but I have already (and rather rudely I might add) been informed that this whole thing is some kind of sick joke, so it is nothing to get further worried about.

OCC: Iuthia Would know it is some sick joke, Because he has access to those Forums, Iuthia You should do something about this Situation with the respect to Concordia and Doujin because this is completely out of line!

if Doujin does attack civilian centers and not military centers NV will intervene politically, if not, then I don't see why NV relations between Doujin should be broken. Trade agreements between our 2 nations are alrerady fragile and I fear that any harm to Doujin will have his war machine supporting the Kazach Order extremist group, HQ'd in NV itself again.

Note: NV does not pledge alleigence to the Kazach Order and is trying to destroy this extremist groupoff the Earth, dont invade me if u think im harbering Osama. Im not

[Dr_Twist: Don't get your panties in a bunch, it was just a joke.]

[Dr_Twist: Don't get your panties in a bunch, it was just a joke.]

What he said.

OOC: I don't control Doujin, nor do I control the nations in Concordia... it's not an alliance where I tell everyone what to do, it's an alliance where in we defend our members if they are attacked without good cause.

Whats more if it OOC there is nothing I could do even if I did control my nations actions. The problem here looks like meta-gaming, people responding IC to something they can't have known about IC, in which case it's not my problem... afterall in all IC respects all Doujin has done is to move some boats and have post a little bit of RP which only he actually knows about. If people respond IC to something they don't know about IC then thats their fault.

Joke or otherwise, I've seen much worse from many nations, things where peolpe mess about with nations OOC in cruel manners... this isn't really one of them, Doujin posted something you don't know about, you reacted to it as if you did, you're problem, not mine.

If you want to see out of line then watch as nations fall out OOC and blackmail one another, I've seen that crap happen and there isn't much you can do about it other then deal with it, I can't slap Doujin around the head and tell him to stop and neither can the mods. So deal with it.

The Fleets positioned themselves one mile off of territorial waters for Gaia Rodina. The guns aboard the Doujin Class Flagships turned towards Gaia Rodina, all loaded and prepared to fire. All that was awaited was the order..

Meanwhile, the fleet began firing excercises just outside the waters of Gaia Rodina, getting prepared for the future deaths of Gaia Rodina and her "butt-buddies".

Throughout Doujin, weapons systems were unlocked - and all nuclear missiles fueld and readied. The threat of a nuclear attack against Doujin forces must be countered with mutually assured destruction, and as such Doujin has issued an unconditional release of strategic and tactical nuclear missile systems.

Patriotic songs were played in the streets of Doujin, and men were encouraged to gather arms. The populace of Doujin was fed up with being insulted and being made out to be 'Imperialistic pigs', when Doujin itself has never made a landgrab.

A great sense of pride and patriotism sweeped the nation at large, and citizens held massive rallies to further lift the spirits of Doujin. Coastal defense emplacements were brought online, and the Two defense fleets were launched and are now on active duty, protecting Doujin from invasion threads while the bulk of the Doujin Navy is out preparing for it's attack on Gaia Rodina.

And then.. the guns on a Doujin fired.., the resulting 'bang' being heard all the way in the heart of Gaia Rodina..