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OOC: After I 'surrendered' to Imperial Brits, he gave me some terms which, quite frankly, are stupid. So I have decided to fight back. Topic here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148638&start=20/)

IC: The remants of The Xenos Fleet returned to Prospero and found the Lucifer patroling the planet. The fleet came up to the ship and opened fire on the ship, launching bombers and fighters.

The new (bought) ships dropped out of warp and also opened fire on the Lucifer. These ships were:
1 Lucifer
2 Ravanas
3 Demons
6 Molochs
8 Rakashas
10 Liliths
15 Cains

Post damage.

Then 50 scout vessels came out of B-space and quickly moved towards the Shivan fleet. They were the advanced guard of a force that was still on its way.
http://www.stguardian.to/alien/borg/borgspheredrone.jpg
*Species 2867, you will leave this galaxy immidiately. Failure to comply will result in your destruction. Resistance is futile.*

BTW, There is only the lucifer there at the moment...

OOC: That is strange. I would expect at least a few sathanas.

OOC: He doesn't think I will fight back!

Bump

OOC: If you do this and then lose again then he will give you even worse terms, possibly even completely destroy you. BTW I thought you were modern tech.

Secret IC: A commander runs into Cam III's office.

Sir, the ships are fireing on the enemy ship.

Good, anything else?

Yes sir, the Species 1 has arrived.

Good, send them the things they require after the battle is over.

Yes sir

OOC: Modern and future...

Imperial Brits is part of the UTA eh? Hmm... You may be getting a friendly visit from CF Expeditionary forces. I need someone from that alliance to crush while I gear up for the war upon TFU.

Thank you, thank you very much.

OOC: so you are having problems with TFU too? We should talk.

----Sorry, ignore this----

OOC: so you are having problems with TFU too? We should talk.

OOC: I'm trying to incite a major war between the allies in the international mall and TFU. TFU won't get back from whereever he is until tuesday, so until then I have to keep my fleet occupied. After all, the worst thing for a good soldier is inactivity.

I've got to go to a party, so I won't be able to post for a bit (unless I can find an internet connection) but when I get back, I'll deploy some ships.

Ok, thanks

Secret IC:
Sir, Central Facehuggeria is going to help.

Godd, sonn we will have Imperila Brits under our control.

Unlikly sir, there bigger than us.

Damn...

ooc cam you look out gunned do yo need asistance ic deploy the warspite

There are:
Cam III
Central Facehuggeria
Species 1
Sephiroth
Tasty foods (Maby)

Against:
Imperial Brits

we are curently in a holding pattern waiting for orders cam III

we are going to act as non combat medical ,repairs ,and surport fire

From the commander on The Lucifer (Mine)
All ships open fire on the enemy ship!

the warspite decloacks and raises shields and charges phasers 'fire'
he warspite attacks the enemy's lucifer

Is the warpsite a ship?

yes the powefullest in my fleet it is allso my flagship so protect it

oocis the fleet gona get here warspite is tough but not that tough she cant destroy this thing we are buging out
ic the warspite recloacks and goes to warp 50

Our ally Cam III needs help. Admiral Hopkins says to Liuetenant Johnson.

"But, sir, do we really want to sacrifice nearly half of our star destroyers?" Liuetant Johnson replies, with a worried look on his face.

Don't worry...they don't have the firepower to take out our star destroyers. Now, I want you to dispatch ten Victory-class Star Destroyers and five Imperator-class Star Destroyers to the battlefield.

"But, sir..."

Are you challenging my authority, Liuetenant?

"No, sir, I'll get right on it." Lieutenant Johnson says with a sigh.

Ten Victory-class and five Imperator-class Star Destroyers exit hyperspace, ready to take orders.

"Destroy Imperial Brits's fleet and whoever else is helping him. Then, return to the Polioris System."

"Yes, sir." Admiral Norris of the fleet's flagship Invincible replies.

The fifteen star destroyers enter hyperspace, only hours away from their destination...

open a coms line to tasty foodsand cam III tasty foods do not fire up on the ss warspite im ally cam we are not retreating we are geting a fleet together warspite out

.::Begin Transmission::.
To: S.S. Warspite
From: Admiral Norris, ISD Invincible

Message:

Copy that, Warspite. We will not fire at you.

.::End Transmission::.

The star destroyers exit out of hyperspace.

.::Begin Transmission::.
To: Cam III fleet
From: Admiral Norris, ISD Invincible

Message:

This is the Invincible. What do you want us to do?

.::End Transmission::.

a large star destroyer fleet drops out of warp the fleet is led by the warspite. warspite to cams lucifer we are back and have bought some reinforcements warspite out
message recived

to isd invincealbe this is the alpha fleet led by warspite we await orders

50 mile long heavily armed and armoured warp capiable can reach warp 50

.::Begin Transmission::.
To: S.S. Warspite
From: ISD Invincible

Message:

We are taking orders from Cam III. I suggest you do the same.

.::End Transmission::.

ok
we are launching dropships

the warspite is 50 miles long heavily armed and armoured warp capiable can reach warp 50 whoah im glad that is mine

It was a truly great gathering, the entirety of the CF fleet. Preparing for war against the imperialist UTA would demand skill and training. It would also require practice, and an attack upon Imperial Brits would provide just such practice.

The Vengeance class battleship 'CFV Slayer' along with five dreadnoughts, six destroyers, and ten heavy cruisers activated their Xenium implosion reactors in unison and promptly entered quasi-space. An hour later, although to the crew it seemed only moments, the fleet emerged from the all prevading green light right in Cam III's home system. The Slayer as well as the other CF ships activated their accumulator shields and charged their weapons. Today would be a good day to die. Well, for the Imperial Brits that is.

OOC: Can't provide in depth stats right now, as I'm still at the party. You can expect them when I return home.

Here are some basic stats:
Dreadnought: Legnth: 4.5 kilometers
Cruiser: Legnth: 1 kilometer
Slayer: Legnth 4 kilometers
Destroyer: Legnth: 2 kilometers

Edit: Dug up my storefront CFAC (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=10) Check out the combat spacecraft section.

I'll post again when I can.

ure aid is welcome

OOC: Sephrioth could you please restrain yourself? Try to spell right and use one post to say everything. This is just a request.

wheres cam

Cam III how on Earth could you purchase a Lucifer. Only the shivan's have them and as far as I know absolutely no store front owner sells them. You are simply using the stats off of my web page that i supplies.

May I remind all of you that Cam III declared war on me. Based on OOC references. Cam III you are in no position to be able to buy new fleets. One thing My Lucifer is in orbit of your homeworld, Two you have absolutely no idea how it works. So you cant possibly do it correctly. 3 The Lucifer is completely uninhabital to humans due to the sheer ammounts of radiation produced. Only Shivans can survive it.

You are breaking an surrender pact which was very fair as you declared war on me. How on Earth could you afford those ships when the Lucifer is in orbit of your planet monitoring everything you do. Surely they would have noticed you buying these ships. Not to mention you could not afford them due to the simple fact that your fleet is decimated. It would take you years to replace and re-train all the crewmembers that you require.

Also Sephrioth is on my IGNORE list due to constant godmoding.

CF this will bring the UTA to war against you, also i am so close to ignoring this, it's not even funny. I will await a response before i do anything else. But Cam III, Get realistic NO WAY COULD YOU GET THOSE SHIPS. simply because they are not suited for terrans. Every member on board would be dead from the radiation generated by the shield.

I am asking you to cease this, as it's quite simple. One move against me will see your homeplanet go boom.

Also Cam III made this war a closed rp and so it shall remain. I could have got allies to my side but i never and i will not. So the only person i will recognise is Cam III the rest will be ignored as he is breaking his initial rp terms shown by the link he gave earlier.


And Cam III please provide me the link to where you aquired the Sathanas warships.

Species 1, sorry to attack you cause i like you. Your fleet as i understand it is decimated as well. How can you hope to provide a large enough fleet.

I want answers to all of this because as I see it. There is some Godmoding. Whoever the new person Tasty whatever go and re-think your fleet it's way to big.

Also. As i was the first person to use Shivan tech on NS. Like Klonor was the first to use GTVA tech It essentialy means that i have copyrighted it for the NS Universe. I assure you of this I will attack the storefront owner who sold you those ships if it turns out to be true that you got them. As i regard it as the theft of state secrets. Cam III this is a very thin line you are treading. I am about to blow a hole out of your homeworld if you dint stand down. In 1 shot the flux cannons can devistate an entire continent. Bow down and accept defeat you declared war on me. It was your choice. I showed you mercy. I could have wiped you off the face of the Future tech map, but i never. But here this, i still easily can.

I see. Its not like I won't get the UTA on me anyway when this whole TFU business comes to a head. However, this is a closed RP and I'll respect it.

But come tuesday, you may find CF battlefleets knocking on your door next. And unlike Cam here, I do have a powerful fleet.

Edit: Tasty foods is a massive billion + nation. He can have alot more ships than you (He also has some large allies and numerous shipyards). And as I've said before, you're fleet is pretty near godmoding too, even with your allies helping you construct stuff.

woops sorry i thought it was 9 april 2004. :oops: Sorry tasty foods. However this is a closed rp. even though Cam III has made a new thread it is still closed.

Cam III I would like to see where you bought those Shivan craft. As i would like to know the modifications the stroe front owners has made to the internal structure and external superstructure to support terran life.

OOC:

Cam asked me to help. I have nothing against you, it's just that I'm bored. :wink:

But, I will respect your wishes and pull out. Sorry Cam.

IC:

.::Begin Transmission::.
To: Cam III Fleet
From: ISD Invincible

Message:

We are sorry, friend, but we have other matters we must tend to. Good luck, and you have our full support.

.::End Transmission::.

OOC: Greetings IB, I was hired by CAM III to help kick you out of his territory in exchange for certain technology. If you don't want me here however I will leave. As for those Shivan ships he is using, he got them here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138139. There is no mention about modifications to allow human crews but he isn't very detailled about the ships anyway.
And as for the amount of ships I have. If I did this seriously I could have in excess of 200 million ships but because that would easily scare anybody out of an RP I have decided to keep it down to a couple of million in the entire galaxy. Still enough to make it possible for these 50 scouts to appear. They will not get much support in the form of warvessels this time but they should be fine against one Lucifer.

can i help in any way

i was hired to kick ure ass ib/us

Cam III your Shivan ships have been ignored. The maker goes into no detail on how she would modify the ships for Terran life. They are only suitable for Shivans.

1) No deck gravity, Shivans have other methods to stay in the ground.

2) Radiation from the Shield that the lucifer creates would kill almost instantly any terran. Shivans on the other hand are not affected. due to completely differnt biology.

3) The storefront owner has not confirmed your ordere so you have in fact no Shivan ships. So they ar ignored.

Shivan tech on NS is quite simply mine. Anyone else who uses it will be ignored. I am asking that storefront owner to cease operations or there will be consequences. I have a few pissed off allies due to her blatent breech on NS rules.

I have looked at her storefront. EVERYTHING IS WRONG. The ships are to large the weapons wrong. even the names of the flipping things. So i would advise ypou not buy from her simply because she aint gonna last long.
Species 1 do you have msn?

OOC: I think so, but I never use it.

OOC: Try and get it up and running so i can talk to you over it. Trust me NS is alot more interesting when you have msn. You are able to begin planning things forge alliances off NS. I would advise you to get it.

OOC: sorry Cam but I can't do anything for you. You will just have to talk this out with IB.

IC: Suddenly, the ships stopped firing and phased out of normal space. They just disappeared to parts unknown.

The fuck is going on here?!?!?!

Cam III will you adhere to my demands, which are resonable or shall i target your capital city.

The f--- is going on here?!?!?!

OOC:

Sorry, but if it's a closed RP between you and him, there's nothing I can do.

OOC: Right, Species 1, I have decided not to give you the tech you asked for. Tasty foods, why? And IB, I belive that you said I could not purches ships, ever heard of a ground base on earth? I bet you never heard of that, and anyway how could you find my planet without asking people who know? Most people start searching for info on people before they launch an attack...

I believe that you are right about the shivien (Sp?) ships, that was kind of godmodding when I used them. I am sorry. Now, what are we going to do about that ship that seems to be imperatble by any weapons, and you said I godmoded...

The first war betwenn me and him was, I never said that this was.

The ship can easily be destroyed you just have to know how. I have not godmoded. The Lucifer is a very slow and i mean slow assault craft. Your fleet can easily out run it. To destroy the Lucifer you must attack it in subspace. You will adhere to my demands or i will open fire on your planet.

I think not, I will only do that if they are not forever.

I think not, I will only do that if they are not forever.

Very well 5 RL months. is the minimum iam gonna make it. I dont want to wipe out your homeplanet but i will if i must.

OOC: *Cough* Shivan ships tend to be very vulnerable in their rear sections. Their weapons, especially the main guns on the Sathanas class vessels are also vulnerable and easy to hit with torpedos.

The Lucifer is a special case. In the freespace game, it was the only Shivan vessel to have shields. And those shields were invulnerable (unless in [freespace/Klonor] subspace where some weird energy fields or somesuch render them useless.) The invulnerable shields are a *Godmod* pure and simple. The rest of the ship is perfectly acceptable. As a side note, the Sathanas is actually larger than the Lucifer.

<copy pasted from a freespace website> The result of an intensive study of Shivan weapon technology. The Kayser emits focused waves of subatomic particles that bombard its target. Impact causes the wave function of the particles to collapse and emit extremely intense, zero-point energy microbursts

Essientially, these are particle weapons. Shields that specifically protect against such weapons would cut Shivan combat prowess signifigantly.

Or, you could do what I did, get bigger guns. :wink:

OOC: Yes, I understand that Cam III but I cannot help if IB wants it to be closed and I did talk him into lowering his demands. I suggest you take the loss and learn from the experience.

As for the shields, I thought they were a bit of a godmod too, but it is not invulnerable just very hard to damage. Still I am glad IB only has one and I hope he will keep it that way.

The Lucifer can only be destroyed in Subspace, however there is a few weaknesses in real space that iam not going to divulge. you have to think of them. However it can be destroyed. there is quite a few ways in fact, just think of them.

The lUcifer can be destroyed, i gave you the chance to stop it when i rpd it heading towards your homeplanet. and CF is correct that my ships are so vunerable from the rear that it's almost laughable.

What are you going to do.

I want to know now before i blow up your home planet.

I know where it is quite simply because for an rp sake i followed your ships when they were leaving the battle to your homesystem.


Also Cam III the initial war rp was closed, this is a coninuance of it so it will remain closed. Unless i can bring my allies into the fray. And you dont want that. But it's staying closed.

I will only ever have 1 lucifer. because it's so hard to destroy. The lucifer is very slow almost any warship can outrun it. I will most likely only ever use it against planets.

You didn't give me the chance, you said that it was a secret RP. So I thought that I would not detect it untill it was near to my planet...

No i said you did not know where it was going, not that it had entered subspace. I thought you would have chased after it and i was suprised when you never. But what about my proposal. I have taken the permanant off and given you a 5 RL month deadline. Which will decrease if your rp skills improve.

I thought you said that i would not know where it was going....

I agree to those terms. Shall they start on the 1st of June?

agreed.

drop to subspace target the ib lucfirse rear section and fire all weapons

ignored

I am deploying my diablo fleet they will only attack imperial brits if he dosn't quit using my tech now
it has 10 lucifers 45 ravanas 75 demons 100 molochs 120 rakashas 145 liliths and 100 cains
the flag is th diablo its stats are as follows
30 klicks long 4 super lasers 5 big beam cannons 175 beam cannons 750 lasers 180 AAA beam cannons 225 flak guns 10 gravity well projectors 35 tractor beams 1,200 fighters and lucifer class sheilds

brits i hope to not have to fight if you just quit using shivan tech we can avoid this blood shed

occ all ships in this battle that are mine or were bought from me will have the stats they have in my ship store

OOC: Ok, I just found out that on page 43 of the Camdean copyrights thread, Ekardia here copyrighted these ships. Although I think that he shouldn't have granted a copyright on Shivan ship design, the fact remains that Ekardia has copyrights on them and Camdean is recognized by this nation and many others. Still, as long as IB isn't selling the things you don't have to get fired up about it all.

Ekardia i have never seen such a godmode in my life. You could not have all of those ships, and iam still waiting to here what modifications you have made to them.

It's quite simple, you are a n00b. A n00b with a large nation yes. But your not that large. Tell me how do the Lucifers shields work. How many reactors do you have on the ships and what type are they to generate the massive ammounts of power needed to operate your vessel. How have you sorted the whole gravity thing, as Shivan ships dont have it. How have you managed to buils such a large fleet when the GTVA could only manage half of that. and they had billions of people.

When you answer those questions maybe ill recognise you but untill then you can't really sell the ships.

All you have done is went cut then copy then paste from a very shabby website. Where as other people actualy put time into their storefronts. You can considder this a demand to know everything about your ships as i have siad without these modification a shivan ship can not support a terran crew. ESpecialy the LUCIFER.

the modifications are that i made them bigger and added more weaponry
they were great in the freespace games but in NS a SSd is twice the size of the sathanis

I am deploying my diablo fleet they will only attack imperial brits if he dosn't quit using my tech now
it has 10 lucifers 45 ravanas 75 demons 100 molochs 120 rakashas 145 liliths and 100 cains
the flag is th diablo its stats are as follows
30 klicks long 4 super lasers 5 big beam cannons 175 beam cannons 750 lasers 180 AAA beam cannons 225 flak guns 10 gravity well projectors 35 tractor beams 1,200 fighters and lucifer class sheilds

brits i hope to not have to fight if you just quit using shivan tech we can avoid this blood shed

occ all ships in this battle that are mine or were bought from me will have the stats they have in my ship store

Oh my God you can't be serious. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw this.

You are a November 2003 nation there is no way you have 595 starships. Even I don't have nearly that many and I'm an April 2003 nation that specializes in space fleets.

double post

it is possible as i had a nation be4 ekardia it was Shivanas most of the populace was abducted by a larger nation but i got all the research on stuff of of the old planet and onto EKardia after a while i bought som shipyards and started producing ships then i built some of my own shipyards and continued producing ships i got materials from a solar system i discovered and labor from the people of nations that died so i would take there populace and give them food job shelter and pay for working for me they are also considered citizens i can operate all of these ships because an ally of mine developed Artificial intelligence and i had him put it on my ships
that a good enough explanation for you

Can I have this fleet?:
1 Nova class starship
5 Imperial Batllebarge
20 Battle Cruisers
10 Strike cruisers
10 Grand Cruisers
20 Cruisers
20 Light Cruisers
40 Frigates
30 Destroyers

as mine and IBs confrontation is basically resolved i am pulling out my fleet

Great, and what about my proposed fleet, the total is 156.