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UKN Navy (UKNN);

Corsair Carrier Battlegroup;
1 Corsair Class Carrier (Flagship)
4 Kidd Class Destroyers
6 Carrack Class Frigates
2 Capitol Class Missile Cruiser
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2 E-22 Messanger Stars
8 S-3E Vikings
30 F-92 Narwhales
5 Ka-28 Helixs
Mackie Carrier Battlegroup;
1 Corsair Class Carrier (Flagship)
6 Carrack Class Frigates
1 Hailsturm Class Dreadnaught
6 Capitol Class Missile Cruiser
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2 E-22 Messanger Stars
8 S-3E Vikings
30 F-92 Narwhales
5 Ka-28 Helixs
1st Submarine Fleet;
2 Akane Class Submarine
8 U-212 Class Submarines
2 Capitol Class Missile Cruiser
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1 Ka-28 Helix Helicopter
1st Land Attack Fleet;
4 Wasp Assualt Ships
20 Hover Landing Ships
2 Carrack Class Frigates
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10 Ka-28 Helix Helicopters
5 F-92 Narwhales
Missile Command Unit;
500 Tomahawk-CDs (Coastal Defence)
Costal Defence Fleet;
4 Capitol Class Missile Cruisers
6 Carrack Class Frigates
2 Kilo Class Submarines
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15 Combat Whale ASW Aircraft (shore based)
4 Ka-28 Helix ASW Helicopters (Ship Based)
Logistics Support Fleet;
6 EM-75B Fleet Oilers
4 EM-50 Minehunters
10 EM-80 Combat Supply Ships
2 EM-90 Strategic Sealift Ships
Battleship Attack Fleet;
1 Hailsturm Class Dreadnaught
3 Capitol Class Missile Cruisers
5 Carrack Class Frigates
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2 U-212 Class Sumarines

UKN Army (UKNA);

160,000 Troops with AK-101s
1,000 Troops with SAWs
1,000 Troops with TOWs
1,000 Troops with MP-5s
3,000 Specops Troops with M-4s
1,500 Heavy Troops with M-21s
15,000 Light Troops with MP-12s
5,000 Heavy Troops With 35mm Grenade Launchers
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110 Cheyenne Tanks
90 T-80 Tanks
50 Publo Anti-Aircraft Tanks
145 BMP-2 APCs
100 Supply Trucks
30 Crab Heavy Logistics Vehicles (HLVs)
50 Paladin SPAs
95 203mm Towed Guns

UKN Air Force (UKNAF);

310 F-92 Narwhales
40 L-29 Delfin Basic Trainers
90 Hawk 400 Advanced Trainers
25 E-22 Messanger Stars
25 Tu-22M2-UKN Bombers
25 Anotov-225 Transports
40 Anotov-12 Transports
135 KC-10 Extenders
10 KC-135 Stratotankers
10 F-16E Fighters (Reserve Units)
100 MiG-25 Interceptors (Defence Units)
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35 Chinook Helicopters
20 Apache Helicopters
30 Commanche Helicopters
120 Nightshade Helicopters
10 MiX-8 VIP-Hip Helicopters
15 Mi-26 Field Hospitals
10 Mi-26 Heavy Transports
100 H-190 Aleuit Transports
100 AH-190 Aleuit Warrior Scouts
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2,900 SS-N-12 Sandboxs (Coastal Defence)
950 SS-N-19 Shipwrecks (Coastal Defence)
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25 Neptune Nuclear ICBMs
10 Neptune II Nuclear ICBMs
50 Chemi-Tomahawk VX Gas Missiles
10 Jericho-I Nuclear ICBMs (Assigned to Space Program)

AF Personall: 11,390 (Includeing 1115 Pilots and 10,000 Other)
Army Personall: 184,680 Infantry, 1,475 Vehicle, 5,000 Other
Navy Personall: 9,600 Ships and Aircraft and Maintenacne
Other Personall: 1,500 People
Total Personall: 213,685 People in Military Total

OOC: Your combat forces seem very reasonable considering your national size, and the intermixing of Communist Bloc tech would help you out even more when it comes to costs of procurement and maintenance. There are only a few suggestions I would make:

The smallest, nitpicky thing I would mention is that your air wing would need to invest in modifications for your MiGs, Tupolev bombers, and Anotov transports to be able to tank off of your KC-135s and KC-10s. And you'd also have to modify the KC-10s to do drogue refueling rather than boom refueling to tank the MiGs, as I'm pretty sure that's how the Russians did their airborne refueling. (Rather than the KC-10's boom)

The second thing I noticed was your helicopter-to-ground forces ratio. You've got an Army strength of what could be 5 divisions, but less than two brigades worth of helicopter support. Depending on the sort of tactics you plan on using, this weakness in helicopter power could hurt you.

Perhaps the biggest issue you're facing is support units. You'll need logistics, engineering, medical, NBC, and command and control units to effectively run your army, and you'll need some logistics vessels (oilers, ammunition carriers, fast replenishment, etc) for your fleet to really have the ability to stretch out around the globe.

I hope you take this as simply a single perspective on possible changes, by no means to be taken as criticism or anything. Your fighting forces are showing a good deal more foresight and planning than many I've seen reading through the II boards.

OOC: Your combat forces seem very reasonable considering your national size, and the intermixing of Communist Bloc tech would help you out even more when it comes to costs of procurement and maintenance. There are only a few suggestions I would make:

The smallest, nitpicky thing I would mention is that your air wing would need to invest in modifications for your MiGs, Tupolev bombers, and Anotov transports to be able to tank off of your KC-135s and KC-10s. And you'd also have to modify the KC-10s to do drogue refueling rather than boom refueling to tank the MiGs, as I'm pretty sure that's how the Russians did their airborne refueling. (Rather than the KC-10's boom)

The second thing I noticed was your helicopter-to-ground forces ratio. You've got an Army strength of what could be 5 divisions, but less than two brigades worth of helicopter support. Depending on the sort of tactics you plan on using, this weakness in helicopter power could hurt you.

Perhaps the biggest issue you're facing is support units. You'll need logistics, engineering, medical, NBC, and command and control units to effectively run your army, and you'll need some logistics vessels (oilers, ammunition carriers, fast replenishment, etc) for your fleet to really have the ability to stretch out around the globe.

I hope you take this as simply a single perspective on possible changes, by no means to be taken as criticism or anything. Your fighting forces are showing a good deal more foresight and planning than many I've seen reading through the II boards.

KC-10s can probe and drogue refuel as well, so can KC-135s with a small addition to the end of the boom:

http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/kc10_f18.jpg

http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/kc-135-dvic251.jpg


UKN if your looking for cheap utility and heavylift helicopters have a look at our modernised Mi-17 and Mi-26s:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143639&highlight=


Also check out ou range of support ships:

EM-50 Minesweeper (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73949&highlight=)

EM-75 Fleet Oiler (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60162&highlight=)

EM-80 Combat Support Vessel. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59383)


EM-90 Sealift/Military Transport Ship (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38804&highlight)

15 Mi-26 Field Hospitals - $270,000,000
10 Mi-26 Heavy Transports - $165,000,000
6 EM-75B Fleet Oilers - $1,260,000,000
4 EM-50 Minehunters - $180,000,000
10 EM-80 Combat Supply Ships - $3,700,000,000
2 EM-90 Strategic Sealift Ships - $400,000,000

Total: $5,975,000,000

Confirmed, now your military has much better force projection capabilites.

money wired, and the post is fully updated with full logistics information. working on improving my helo fleet.

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updated the helo fleet, doubled my Nighshade attack copters.

I have nice helicopters for you to browse, here is a list of the chopper range although you don't really need any more attack birds:

EA-22 Multi-purpose helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80790&highlight=)

EA-24 Multipurpose helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824)

EA-26 Attack Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68324&highlight=)

EA-28 Light /Special Forces Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66401)

EA-32 Combat Scout/Attack Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88396&highlight=)


Also you don't appear to have any basic trainers, just Hawks which are advanced trainers:

EA-50 Turboprop Trainer/Light Attack Aircraft (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40977)


Two or three of these may also be extremely useful and well worth the expense:

EA-70 Mini J-STAR (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26456&highlight=)

Luckily we Realized why most of our pilots-in-training where dieing, so we maneged to pick up several L-29 Delfins from some former Soviet Bloc Country.

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