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Upon the re-colonization of Hogsweat, Doujin stepped in and demanded that we give him space for a military base. According to him the island was Doujinian (SP?) territory and he demanded the bases. I gave in to him, and now, 100 years later I am asking for the 100KMx100KM demilitarised and given back to us for potato farming land.
Terms
Doujin give up at least half of his territory on Hogsweatian mainland.
If so he may keep his remaining area fully militarised.
Hogsweat will only use the land for farming
Breaking of the treatise by Hogsweat will concede of a payment no less than 500Billion USD to Doujin.

You have three days to comply.

OOC// I aint gona be here sat or sun, gotta go to liverpool.

Doujin had military bases before Hogsweat moved to the area it is currently inhabiting. Since Doujin was interested in having friendly relations with Hogsweat, Doujin helped Hogsweat move to the land near it - but told Hogsweat that the land where the Doujin military presence was - a 100km by 100km area - would remain Doujin sovereign territory.

Doujin will not relinquish any of it's territory. This land has been under Doujin control for well over a hundred years, and it will continue to stay under control of Doujin. This is final.

ooc// you had no right to butt in on my rebuilding RP, so know I will have my vengeance.

The Hogsweatian government will ask Doujin to demilitarise at least half its land on our mainland. For the last time.

Secret IC*

Of course, General Ali-Ki-Rong knew that Doujin would not back down. He had the area under tight surveillance. It was a small area near the coast. He would take it back.

Under the general's command he had three infantry divisions and one armour division. His plan was to smash into the Doujinian "territory" with his tanks and an infantry division, while assaulting the other sides with his other two divisons.

The BTV56's rolled down the crusty road near the Doujin military base. Around 500 of the new tanks, (get stats in min)and positioned themselves outside the area outside the base's radius. The other 1000 Took up assault positions on either side of the base, as did the infantry divisions.

Meanwhile, eighteen ships of the Hogsweatian navy, ten destroyers and eight battleships swung their engines into action and chugged round the cape of Sai-Kong. As they passed the huge port civilians cheered on the brave boys in white.

Destroyers - Taiwan Class. Fairly small destroyers with speed of 30Knots and two 14" guns.
Battleships : four Manchuria Class - Large battleships with thick armour and a speed of 26 Knots. They sport five 24" guns
Battleships: four Taiidan class - longer faster battleships with fair armour and a speed of 30Knots. they sport two 22" guns and two 20" guns.

"The Empire warns Hogsweat that Doujin is a member of the Ali'Staan Accord and we are not going to allow our ally to have land forcibly removed, and we will fight for it if you insist on targeting Doujin for your own schemes. As an ally of Doujin, Doujin has my support."

Emperor Tiberius Stewart

Doujin will demilitarise half of our land and give it to Hogsweat.























Oh wait, sorry I was merely trying to get your hopes up.

[IC]
Doujin Military Base, Field Headquarters - Hogsweat.
The Commander walked around at the base, pondering what to do next. A state of hightened alert was called for all military bases an hour before Hogsweat announced it's warning, and surprisingly had nothing to do with Hogsweat.

The 5 divisions that were stationed in Hogsweat, along with their familes, all prepared for an invasion that might or might not happen. The five kilometer demilitarized zone was further fortified, and more emplacements to launch at incoming military troops were set up. Anti-Aircraft systems were brought online, and of the 600 jets stationed there almost all were prepped and ready to be launched at a moments notice.

Commander Burner, in charge of all Hogsweatian-Doujin operations, signaled the Assault Fleet that was permenantly stationed within 1000 kilometers of Hogsweat. Giving them orders to return to Doujin waters near Hogsweat, he walked out and made sure every single man was prepared to fight at a moments notice.

GM will neither tolerate nor sit idly during this invasion of Doujinian territory. The nation of Hogsweat has no legal right to this land and therefore cannot order Doujin off of it. I believe I speak for the rest of the Unified Kelanthian League when I say that if these uncalled for acts of aggression continue, we will be forced to intervene with the utmost force on behalf of our regional ally. This shall be your first and last warning. Cease all military action, and remove your forces from Doujinian lands immediately.

-Mateo McGrath, President, the Armed Dominion of Great Mateo

**Coded transition**

"Ally Doujin, I have 8 nuclear attack submarines that have confirmed contact and are in position to shadow the fleet moving in on your position we will maneuver NavCom satellites 3 and 14 to keep surveillance on the fleet as well as the forces surrouding your territory"

Regards, Baron Sin


**End Communication**

[tag]

Eredron fully backs her ally, Doujin, in this matter, and condemns this latest act of aggression from Hogsweat.

Gaia Rodina shall support Doujin in any way she can.

[tag]

Coded message to Doujin-

[code:1:dbd05c40aa]We stand behind you and are willing to assist you against Hogsweat's imperialsm[/code:1:dbd05c40aa]

Jeebus people. I'm sure Doujin could handle himself, and perhaps fight better if he didnt have so many lips on his ass. :roll:

I don't know, it is likely that Hogsweat will have the entire RBA behind him.

If he does I can understand it, it could turn out to be a good war, but if not, it kind of ruins RP to throw in your 7464426 allies and their 40000000 billion troops to help you out because they want access to naval technology.

OOC: Doubtful, the RBA is split on the matter. And I ignore the 'core' of it (Imperial Forces, Russian Forces, Red Wales.. etc). Personally, I can defend my position by myself.. however it doesn't hurt having my allies show their support for me. I thank you all for your support.

The above post was made in an OOC fashion, but can be considered IC by people who wish to.

If he does I can understand it, it could turn out to be a good war, but if not, it kind of ruins RP to throw in your 7464426 allies and their 40000000 billion troops to help you out because they want access to naval technology.

OOC: Who are you saying wants access to naval technology? Doujin has no interest in the maritime advancements made through the RBA (seeing as I've seen what you guys are producing and it sucks, no offense.

I don't know, it is likely that Hogsweat will have the entire RBA behind him.

Then the Right-wing will assist DOujin

*declares support for Doujin*
*Leaves.*
*Has severe imagination breakdown.*
*tags*

OOC: You misunderstood me. I meant YOUR allies looking for favors from you. And for clarification, although I am communist, I have not yet joined the RBA.
IC

[code:1:b9c5b72b15] To our comrades in Hogsweat:
The Turkic People's Qaghanate of Daylam, or TPQD, will gladly assist Hogsweat in its endeavor to have its land restored to them. As of now, we can provide several million men to threaten Maghda, as we have a small border with that nation. This number will grow as various Daylami commitments in other areas (China and Korea) are winding down and will hopefully be resolved soon enough. [/code:1:b9c5b72b15]

The Imperial Republic of Unum Veritas, despite its current policy of isolationism, wishes to state its support for Doujin. As stated under the OMP charter, military, political, and/or economic aid will be rendered to Doujin should it be requested. All Veritasean naval assets are going to an increased alert status and can be redirected to the conflict area should Doujin ask. The Republic will not stand for the unlawful invasion of legally held ground.

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OOC: You misunderstood me. I meant YOUR allies looking for favors from you. And for clarification, although I am communist, I have not yet joined the RBA.
IC



OOC: Not looking for any favors at all. I don't want and\or need Doujin's tech. It's been UKL policy since back when it was the United Alcardian States in early 2003 to come down hard on anyone who tries anything against a regional member. I asked Doujin if he wanted help, he asked me to declare support, ta da. Stop generalizing and assuming.

OOC: You misunderstood me. I meant YOUR allies looking for favors from you. And for clarification, although I am communist, I have not yet joined the RBA.
IC

[code:1:e26ec1d302] To our comrades in Hogsweat:
The Turkic People's Qaghanate of Daylam, or TPQD, will gladly assist Hogsweat in its endeavor to have its land restored to them. As of now, we can provide several million men to threaten Maghda, as we have a small border with that nation. This number will grow as various Daylami commitments in other areas (China and Korea) are winding down and will hopefully be resolved soon enough. [/code:1:e26ec1d302]


Unless you are a resurrected nation, you can't possibly send millions of men to fight. If you were to do so, your entire economic infrastructure would collapse and your troops would have to be poorly trained and poorly armed-eventually leading to their defeat.

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OOC: Daylam, I am well prepared along our common border (Kashmir) and can get several other nations to back me, notably The Parthians. He and I have TGed each other about forming an alliance if you attack either of us.

IC:
Daylam, your presence it this war is unrequired.

Iuthia recognises that the land itself is owned by Doujin and the fact that it was un-challeneged for over 100 years serves to further define this point, it was agreed at the time that this land is Doujin's that and they would not be required to remove their base of operations from this area.

As it stands we can see nothing to suggest that this is not Doujin's land and as such it is subject to the Concordia mutual defence pact and as such Iuthia is obligued to assist Doujin should this matter be taken into military hands by Hogsweat or allies of Hogsweat.

Seeing as Doujin is unwilling to relinquish this land Iuthia stands by their perfectly legitimate decision and will, if nessicary back the decision with force.


It woud seem this is only another addition to a series of aggression from Hogsweat, a nation we orginally trusted to some degree which has now fallen to imperalistic desires of exspansionism. Clearly this land is Doujin's and Doujin alone chooses what they will do with it.

Such demands are seen as nothing more then threats from a nation which assumes it's allies will support it's aggression, I can only hope they know better.

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If he does I can understand it, it could turn out to be a good war, but if not, it kind of ruins RP to throw in your 7464426 allies and their 40000000 billion troops to help you out because they want access to naval technology.

OOC: *Laughs out Loud* it's funny you should say that, of all the alliances which number-wank the RBA is the worse, if they do support Hogsweat in this matter then no doubt it will be "I mobilise 8'000'000 troops" all the way.

Iuthia is Doujin's ally and we have been for a long time, we've got personal connections with that nation ever since it bombed us in a strong RP. I don't use Doujin tech and I've never bought anything from them, Iuthia is their ally through diplomatic means.

In this case it's perfectly acceptable that his allies are prepared to add their support, to show that we mean business. I know how these things go and if we don't support Doujin then Hogsweat would have tons of allies joining in... it's important to show everyone that we are there for our ally, even if they don't want our assistance (which we would respect) we have to show willing to support out allies.

If it should come to war then Douijn and Hogsweat can work out if they want allies jumping in or not, but right now it's about moral support. So quit bitching.

OOC- Adding to Iuthia's statement, Unum Veritas is a competitor of Doujin when it comes to naval technology and frankly, I am perfectly capable of handling my own tech discoveries without others' help. I also choose not to use such large ships as him; our ideas about strategy are completely different. So, why don't you keep your ignorant statements to a minimum, if at all possible?

OOC: Where do you come off saying I can't have millions of troops? I have almost 600mil population Im pretty sure I can atleast several million men in my army, oh uninformed one.
And, in the future I will keep my comments on your motives to myself as they obviously cause problems. I will say one thing, and that is you all seem awfully worked up and angry for people who dont really care.

Oh, and Maghda, I don't need to conquer anything, just provide enough men to tie down your own men. The Parthians has and will be ignored by me.

OOC: Where do you come off saying I can't have millions of troops? I have almost 600mil population Im pretty sure I can atleast several million men in my army, oh uninformed one.
And, in the future I will keep my comments on your motives to myself as they obviously cause problems. I will say one thing, and that is you all seem awfully worked up and angry for people who dont really care.



You could, perhaps, field a military with several million personnel, with your population of 600 mil. Stretching it, but I suppose at least somewhat possible. Having several million in your army alone, OTOH...

To commit several million men to a single front would push it beyond the limit, however.

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia wishes to note that, in spite of our strained relations with Doujin, we do not recognize Hogsweat's claim to the territory that they are claiming belings to them. Thus, we can not support Hogsweat's claim to the territory.

However, we will not be involved in this conflict if it should escalate to military tensions.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

Oh, and Maghda, I don't need to conquer anything, just provide enough men to tie down your own men. The Parthians has and will be ignored by me.

The Parthians and I have double the men you do. I can crush any attempt you make on our borders.

[Dylam: With one exception, the Doujin class and its classified technology, I had access to all of the Doujinshi Corp tech that I could ever want well before this war was even in your thoughts and dreams.

To whoever named Doujin as a part of the Accord: As far as I can tell, Doujin being on the Accord member-list is the closest thing I've ever seen to getting put on a e-mail spam list in NS. The only way I can explain the FUBAR is that it was some poor attempt to alienate Doujin from his anti-Allanea allies, such as myself.]


We hope that the nation of Hogsweat knows that they've just secured their expulsion from Concordia. To be completely frank, this is probably one of the worst jobs of justifying war that I've ever seen and is more and more becoming a trademark of RBA member-states. Furthermore, the Imperium is growing tired of the RBA's nonsence and this time is going to respond with force if need be. The 3rd and 4th Fleets are being prepped for deployment in response to this incident and if any attack does occur Hogsweat will suffer.

Asiya Saleh,
Dutches Alexandria,
Director of Foreign Services

OOC: Currently, no one has access to the classified technologies on the Doujin refit.

Doujin thanks all her allies for the support they have provided. Hopefully a war can be averted, although in this case it seems unlikely.

We will settle for half the land back. Troops are withdrawing.

You aren't getting any land back, Hogsweat.

*tags*

IC: "What, this is the most stupid stunt I have ever seen, tell Doujin we will help him with whatever he needs"

"Yes sir!"

We will settle for half the land back. Troops are withdrawing.

Anyone else get the feeling that the broken record approach just isn't getting anywhere?



And Daylam, if you were to field an army of several million armed men, then that would mean you have basically no air force and no navy, plus very little support personnel. The brunt of your army is supposed to be in logistics and support (fixing broken items, transporting oil, food, men, etc.). If you have millions of actual soldiers then you'd have hardly any logistical support and, even if it is in your own country, your army wouldn't last all that long. Especially if I or someone else with a ridiculously large navy decided to intervene and blockade or do something else to starve your troops out. Plus, taking millions of men and putting them on a single front takes them away from the jobs they would normally have, thus causing your economy to suffer. Besides, 600 million people really isn't all that much.


Now, enough thread-jacking; back to Hogsweat's stubborn insistance on the removal of his nation from all world maps.

even thought NV relations between Doujin and NV suffered undered Villa Ananko's rule, the new democratic party in governmental control hopes that Free Trade can be set up between NV and Doujin....



NVS Viranda
NV Navy's largest Aircraft Carrier
Location:Somewhere off the coast of Hogsweat

Admiral Ural Alterac (talking to fighter pilots): You are all brave men, and this for all of you, is your first non-peacekeeping mission you've flown. Yor mission is simple, secure Doujin Airspace using the Robin Fighters, and shoot down any Hogsweat military aircraft you find. These are reasl pilots, trained and skilled, with almost the exact same precision fighting skills as you. Rest assured that by tommorow the 7th fleet will have arrived from Egyptstan and will then take control of ALL Hogsweat airspace, so you only need to survive until 7:00 AM. That is all, dismissed.

Pilot Jim Howard: Sir, I just need to know 1 damn thing, where those Hogsweat fighters are?

Ural Alterac: Our intel reports tell us that a small AFB controlled by Hogsweat is located near Doujin held territory, your mission is to destroy all fighters there, and blow that AFB back to hell.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Presidential Estate
Hivez
New Vuhifell National Capital

President Michael Daniels: What, I didn't order that strike, pull them back.

Lowel Sikorski: umm... sir we can't, Admiral Ural Alterac ordered that strike sir, he was ordered so by the Military Advisors Board, they're higher up than you in Military affairs.

Michael Daniels: So be it, but just in case I'm ordering a Concorde Amerex heavy strike on all military bases near Doujin territory held by Hogsweat, I don't want him or his nation touching my 4th fleet.

Upon learning of New Vuhifell's acts, the High Chancellor of Unum Veritas issued the following statement:
The Veritasean government deplores this preemptive attack by New Vuhifell. Diplomatic solutions are still possible, or were so until NV launched this wanton and ill-considered strike. We most earnestly request that NV stand down and cease all aggressive acts at once.

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OOC- I dislike people who jump into threads and the first thing they do is start attacking, without ever taking the time to think through the situation.

We stand against communist agression. Hogsweat, your action is absolutley unacceptable and will leave a nation's people in the grips of poverty caused by the scourge known as communism!

OOC: Total Military Size: 23,880,000
Total Army Size: 14,556,800
Army Field Personnel: 8,885,748
Total Nazy Size (ridiculously small, Daylam has no official coastline, though we can use the Iranian one if need be): 716,400
Total Air Force Size:8,358,000
Total Marine Corps Size:238,800
% in the Army: 61
% in the Navy: 3
% in the Air Force: 35
% in the Marine Corps: 1
% of pop in Military: 4

Yes, I do have millions of men, a tiny navy and marine corps, and a somewhat small Air Force, a powerful economy without military strain, a pretty much imploded one with military strain, and hundreds of billions of dollars from the auction of land to burn threw before I get into critical condition and have to downsize.

.::Begin Transmisson::.
To: Government officials, Doujin
From: President Roy Williams, Tasty Foods

Message:

We would like to express our full support for you, friend. Even though we may not know each other that well, we are both Accord members, and we will stand with you until the end. We ask that all parties try to find a peaceful solution to this problem, but at this point it seems unlikely.

.::End Transmission::.

We stand against communist agression. Hogsweat, your action is absolutley unacceptable and will leave a nation's people in the grips of poverty caused by the scourge known as communism!

Well, considering I have a frightening economy, and I am socialist, it seems like a lie to me...

Hattia is announcing it's neutrality, considering it has ties to nations on both sides...

Kelanthia hereby declares full support for its regional ally Doujin, and will back it in whatever way is necessary to support its lawful claim to the contested lands in Hogsweat.

Secret IC

The huge naval facilities at Northport and New Athens begin to buzz with activity as dozens of vessels prepare to ship out if armed conflict breaks out.

OOC: Total Military Size: 23,880,000
Total Army Size: 14,556,800
Army Field Personnel: 8,885,748
Total Nazy Size (ridiculously small, Daylam has no official coastline, though we can use the Iranian one if need be): 716,400
Total Air Force Size:8,358,000
Total Marine Corps Size:238,800
% in the Army: 61
% in the Navy: 3
% in the Air Force: 35
% in the Marine Corps: 1
% of pop in Military: 4

Yes, I do have millions of men, a tiny navy and marine corps, and a somewhat small Air Force, a powerful economy without military strain, a pretty much imploded one with military strain, and hundreds of billions of dollars from the auction of land to burn threw before I get into critical condition and have to downsize.

Godmode.


That is all.

Are you going to explain? :roll:

OCC:This is suppose to be realistic no? China has a standing army of what, 1 or 2 million. And that's with a population of over 1 billion. Some people won't RP with someone who has a standing army of 25 Million. Even though the percentage of your population in the military is small, it still comes out with an incredibly high number, which really is unlikely. Or atleast that's what I think.

OOC: The army isn't 25 million. The entire military is. The standing army is 8.8 million. And China uses only a very small percentage of their population. North Korea uses 4% of their population, and pre-Gulf Iraq used an even higher %, something like 60% of all military-eligible males, which I think was around 10% of their whole pop. I have already stated that the Daylami economy is basically running out of gas and will soon crash. Other than the fact that it "seems too high" I don't see a godmode.

Iran-Iraq War Iraq had almost a million men in their army fighting Iran, and had a tiny population compared to other countries.

OCC:This is suppose to be realistic no? China has a standing army of what, 1 or 2 million. And that's with a population of over 1 billion. Some people won't RP with someone who has a standing army of 25 Million. Even though the percentage of your population in the military is small, it still comes out with an incredibly high number, which really is unlikely. Or atleast that's what I think.

OOC:

He doesn't have a standing army of 25 million. He has a standing army of 9 million. Granted, 25 million is still excessively high and on the bump hill to economic collapse. Hell, I only have 26.4 million in my military, and I'm more than twice his size. Even with all those men though, I'd like to see him afford to reasonably equip them.

OOC: That's what I just said. The Daylami economy is going to collapse as soon as war is over. I'm fully ready to RP that crash when it happens.

OOC: That's what I just said. The Daylami economy is going to collapse as soon as war is over. I'm fully ready to RP that crash when it happens.

OOC: I have no problems then.

OOC: How can you afford the equipment in itself? I mean, the economy would crash because of the lack of workforce. coupled with the total devaluation of the Daylam currency.. but still, eitherway..

(Doujin has a military of 25,325,000 (2.5% of population)

OOC: By taking out massive loans that are going to cripple me pretty soon. :lol:

The R.O.C will offer support to Doujin in case of attack.

OOC: Tag

OOC: And who would lend these loans to you? I don't see any real life financial institution or nation that would loan an extreme amount of money to an unstable nation like yourself.

OOC: We were not unstable before we took out the loans, obviously. It's only after not being able to pay the loans that our credit would shoot way down.

Here are some good Number's for the People out there, During the 1st Gulf war, the USA used .5% of Population to Invade Iraq, Numbering over 1 Million Men, If i was do take .5% of my population and put it in my army that would be 13 Million Troops, But i get Called a Godmodder all the time for using anything over 10 Million Troops!

The USA had 8.9% of its Population in the Armed forces in WW2, But only half Ever saw battle in the Pacific and Europe.

But the Russians has 10% of its Population in the Armed force's with it all Nearly Seeing Battle.

I still believe the Original Number's Set out a long Time ago Stand, 1% For Full Time Armed Force's 5% For all out war on another Nation and 10% For the Defense of your Own Nation.

I would also Like to State that World Power's Rearm there Armed Force's to prepare for a Major Conflict every 10-15 Year's, So if 1 Day = a Year to your Nation, you could face a War every Half Month or so on.

Here are some good Number's for the People out there, During the 1st Gulf war, the USA used .5% of Population to Invade Iraq, Numbering over 1 Million Men, If i was do take .5% of my population and put it in my army that would be 13 Million Troops, But i get Called a Godmodder all the time for using anything over 10 Million Troops!

The USA had 8.9% of its Population in the Armed forces in WW2, But only half Ever saw battle in the Pacific and Europe.

But the Russians has 10% of its Population in the Armed force's with it all Nearly Seeing Battle.

I still believe the Original Number's Set out a long Time ago Stand, 1% For Full Time Armed Force's 5% For all out war on another Nation and 10% For the Defense of your Own Nation.

I would also Like to State that World Power's Rearm there Armed Force's to prepare for a Major Conflict every 10-15 Year's, So if 1 Day = a Year to your Nation, you could face a War every Half Month or so on.

OCC: This is me BTW :P

TAG.

Im using 4% and I've been fighting wars since pretty much my nation existed and yet everyone says my economy should be imploded (Which it will if that proves to be correct).

Im using 4% and I've been fighting wars since pretty much my nation existed and yet everyone says my economy should be imploded (Which it will if that proves to be correct).

Well i Base Everything on that, I also believe every one else should as well and yes you are right they are Right your Economy would be Imploded.

OOC: Here's a novel idea - let's end the thread hijacking and get back to business. If you must continue to argue, find somewhere besides this thread to do it in.

IC:
Kelanthia would like to reiterate the need for this conflict to be resolved as soon as possible. We also wish to express our desire for diplomatic negotiations to solve this dispute and avoid unnecessary bloodshed, and to that end, we offer our capital of Sarion as a neutral ground to meet on if both parties will agree to a nonviolent solution.

OOC// Wtf! I thought I saw somewhere that you gave me half of hte land bacl. Feh, must have been my eyes. Yeah, lets get back to business.