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Up until now Praetonia has not had an effective airforce. We have a small number of antiquated planes and fleet of helicopters, but no modern aircraft. Up until now, however, we have not had much need for one. Being an island with a small population - not a visible target and with the Underlord system to protect us from attack.

Now, however, with our emergence onto the world stage we have an urgent need for an airforce that can at least match most other countries of our size and standing. For this airforce we require:

A Joint Strike Fighter type plane with the following features:

• Supersonic speed, the faster the better.
• A large weapon payload - notably the ability to carry anti-ship missiles. Nuclear capability NOT required.
• Fighter/ bomber abilities.
• Fairly long range.
• Cheap to mantain.
• Stealth Capabitity.
• Available carrier version (this is not required, merely a preference)

We will need around 300 of these aircraft (OOC: Tell me if this is too much / too few)

An AWAC type system with a decent RADAR, preferable the ability to defend itself although we dont want these to see much combat. This does need to have a carrier capable version. We require 25 of these.

A strategic bomber with a very large payload, and the ability to travel very high and fast. Stealth capability would be preferable, nuclear capability not nesseccary. We would also like this plane to be able to drop supplies and possible paratroopers with the correct modifications. Including bomber, supply and paradrop versions, around 100 are required.

We have been 'saving up' for this for quite some time now, so money is not really a problem. We want a really good quality airforce which can perform admirably even when split into small groups. It will be used for supporting invasions mainly, although we do want it to be more than able to help the Underlord systme defend Praetonian shores.

OOC: For info on our current defence set-up go here. (www.praetonia.tk)

The Gopher Aeronautic Airworks, governement controled is in the process of creating a prototype AWACS Aricraft. The new plane is made the abundant resourses contained our country. One prototype of the plane, Sky Ranger 1, currently has four jet engines a Skymax1 Radar dome, capable of tracking hundreds of contacts, a Shieldmax countermeasure system. The other prototype, Sky Ranger 2, has two jet engines, a Skymax2 Radar dome (A smaller, cheaper version of the Skymax1) and a Shieldmax countermeasuer system. Both planes have state of the art electronics and the Sky Ranger 2 can land on a carrier. Currently the price of the Sky Ranger1 is 400 million, which will drop once mass production kicks in. The Sky Ranger 2 is 375 million. Both should drop about 75-100 million in price after mass production. Let me know if you are intrested so we can kick up production.

Rin Nevskia
Controler of Air development in the Dictatorship

The Gopher Aeronautic Airworks, governement controled is in the process of creating a prototype AWACS Aricraft. The new plane is made the abundant resourses contained our country. One prototype of the plane, Sky Ranger 1, currently has four jet engines a Skymax1 Radar dome, capable of tracking hundreds of contacts, a Shieldmax countermeasure system. The other prototype, Sky Ranger 2, has two jet engines, a Skymax2 Radar dome (A smaller, cheaper version of the Skymax1) and a Shieldmax countermeasuer system. Both planes have state of the art electronics and the Sky Ranger 2 can land on a carrier. Currently the price of the Sky Ranger1 is 400 million, which will drop once mass production kicks in. The Sky Ranger 2 is 375 million. Both should drop about 75-100 million in price after mass production. Let me know if you are intrested so we can kick up production.

Rin Nevskia
Controler of Air development in the Dictatorship

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Looks good. However could you give me proper stats (ie how fast the plane travels, how far it can travel, the range of the randar, armament if any, whether or not it can take off of a carrier, dimensions etc.).

EDIT: That was directed at Evil Gophers. Kelanthia could you please propose a design on this thread as it will make life easier for me. Since if you win I will be giving you a hugeamount of money it's the least I can ask...

Im eagerly awaiting more designs before I chose....

Chardonay will, in a day or two, be coming out with an AWACs zeppelin, capable of staying in the air without refuling for more than 100 hours while traveling at 100km/h. Think of the evelope... that's the radar dome.

Interesting... It wont be able to take off of carriers though so although we will probably purchase two or three of these, the major contract for the carrier based AWACs is still open.

Interesting... It wont be able to take off of carriers though so although we will probably purchase two or three of these, the major contract for the carrier based AWACs is still open.

Here is the link to Hybalt Aeronautics: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143684
We have several aircraft that might fit your needs, and all are carrier-capable. Our GFB-26 Seabolt almost perfectly fits your JSF requirements. We suggest that for a nation your size, your airforce should need at least twice as many, possible more. The reason being, the sir force needs to keep par with the other branch, as they offer crucial support. If you are looking toward invasions, the aircraft keep a "net" over ground forces, so it needs to be of good size.

Ok, we will alter our requirements.

As said above we would rather if you posted the specs in this thread, but as you have given us names of your planes that would suit our requirements it isnt too bad.

Thankyou everyone for showing an interest, more choices are eagerly awaited...

we could interest you in the F-92 "Narwhale" hile it is small, it can carry 4 Anti-Ship Missiles on External Hardpints, and 2 Short-Range AAMs in an Internal Bay.

F-92 Narwhale;

Primary Function: Anti-Ship Strike Fighter
Builder: Federal Electric
Power Plant: 1 F190K STO/VL Turbofan with 2-D Thrust Vectoring
Thrust: 20,000 Pounds total
Length 49 feet, 2 inches
Height 11 feet, 6 inches
Wingspan: 29 feet, 9 inches
Speed: Mach 2.1
Ceiling: About 61,000 Feet
Range: Almost 2000 Miles
Armament: 4 Exocet Anti-Ship Missiles, 2 Taurus AAMs
Unit Cost: $45,000,000
Crew: 1 Pilot
Special: Anti-Radar System (removed in Export Version)

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Certainly; no problem at all. Here is a list of our fixed-wing aircraft. With your requirements in mind, we would recommend the KAC-3 Cyclone, the KAC-4 Peregrine, the KAC-5 Kestrel, the KAC-6 Serpent, and the KAC-9 Farsight. In the interest of providing the best choices, though, we have included our entire fixed-wing line for you to choose from. Enjoy. :)

KAC-1 Nighthowler
Type: Multi-role attack and fighter aircraft
Crew: 2
Length: 56 ft. 4 in.
Height: 15 ft. 8 in.
Wingspan: 40 ft. 8 in.
Empty weight: 23,015 lbs
Combat weight, fighter mission: 36,100 lbs
Combat weight, attack mission: 56,850 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 50,000 ft.
Max speed: Mach 2.0
Engines: 2 M17KAC turbofans, providing 45,000 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 1,400 nautical miles with external tanks and without mid-air refueling
Carrier recovery payload: 9,000 lbs
Armament: 1 M61A1/A2 20mm Vulcan cannon; up to 18,450 lbs of external ordnance (combinations of AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, SLAM, SLAM-ER, Walleye, Maverick missiles; JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs, mines and rockets) Note: also, any missiles of your own that are compatible with the weapons pods for the above weapons can also be used.
Price: $45 million ($38 million for alliance members, $35 million for regional allies)

The Nighthowler is an excellent fighter for just about any role other than heavy bombing. It features advanced avionics (NAVFLIR pod, fly-by-wire controls, a raster heads-up display, and more) that give it an edge in dogfighting, close/far air support and general ground attack.

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KAC-2 Prowler
Type: STOVL attack aircraft
Crew: 1
Length: 46 ft. 2 in.
Height: 11 ft. 7 in.
Wingspan: 30 ft. 4 in.
Weight, normal takeoff: 22,950 lbs
Weight, max short takeoff: 31,050 lbs
Weight, max vertical takeoff: 19,000 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 50,000 ft.
Max speed: 704 mph
Engines: 2 M17KAC turbofans, providing 45,000 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 650 nautical miles
Carrier recovery payload: 6,000 lbs
Armament: 1 M61A1/A2 25mm Vulcan cannon; up to 9,200 lbs of external ordnance (combinations of AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, SLAM, SLAM-ER, Walleye, Maverick missiles; JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs, mines and rockets) Note: also, any missiles of your own that are compatible with the weapons pods for the above weapons can also be used.
Price: $40 million ($36 million for alliance members, $31 million for regional allies)

The Prowler is an aircraft that is capable of vertical takeoffs and landings. While its engine limits the amount of ordnance it can carry, its versatile nature makes up for its lackings in weapons. It is not a great dogfighter, but excels in close/far air support and can be based from virtually any airstrip or carrier, making it available for air support without long transit times and a good choice for invading ground forces that need a craft capable of extended and immediate air support.

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KAC-3 Cyclone
Type: air superiority fighter
Crew: 1
Length: 62 ft. 1 in.
Height: 16 ft. 8 in.
Wingspan: 44 ft. 6 in.
Weight, empty: 31,670 lbs
Weight, max takeoff: 60,000 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 50,000 ft.
Max speed: Mach 2+ at high altitude; Mach 1.2 at sea level
Engines: 2 KAC F911-WP-001 turbofans, each 35,000 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 1,765 nautical miles
Armament: 1 M61A1/A2 25mm Vulcan cannon; up to 9,200 lbs of external ordnance (combinations of AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, SLAM, SLAM-ER, Walleye, Maverick missiles; JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs, mines and rockets) Note: also, any missiles of your own that are compatible with the weapons pods for the above weapons can also be used.
Price: $50 million ($45 million for alliance members, $41 million for regional allies)

Contrary to its namesake, the Cyclone fighter is a very quiet craft designed to maximize stealthiness as much as possible without compromising the traditional fighter virtues of speed, agility, rate-of-climb and acceleration. The fuselage is faceted and precisely angled to reduce RCS as much as possible, and all AAMs are carried internally and are either expelled pneumatically or swung out of hinged compartments to be fired -- although it is large for a fighter, size is not as much of a factor where stealth is concerned as much as shape. Cyclones also have advanced electronic components (GPS, EW suite, new GX/7B radar system, etc.) to make them even more formidable.

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KAC-4 Peregrine
Type: Stealth bomber
Crew: 2
Length: 68 ft. 6 in.
Height: 16 ft. 8 in.
Wingspan: 172 ft.
Empty weight: 153,700 lbs
Normal combat weight: 336,500 lbs
Max combat weight: 376,000 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 54,000 ft.
Max speed: Mach 1.0
Engines: 4 KAC M342-B-81 turbofans, providing 70,000 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 6,300 nautical miles without mid-air refueling
Armament: 40,000 lbs of ordnance in internal bays (combinations of JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs and mines, nuclear gravity bombs)
Price: $850 million ($780 million for alliance members, $730 million for regional allies)

The Peregrine is a high altitude strategic stealth bomber perfect for attacking enemy emplacements without being seen. At home in the night sky, it can fly to its target, deliver its ordnance and be away before the enemy knows they have been attacked. Its state-of-the-art avionics and instruments make it a pricey weapon, but it is well worth the money. While much more expensive than the Kestrel, the huge advantage in stealth makes up for this.

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KAC-5 Kestrel
Type: Strategic bomber
Crew: 4
Length: 146 ft. 1 in.
Height: 34 ft.
Wingspan (wings forward): 136 ft. 9 in.
Wingspan (wings swept): 78 ft. 2 in.
Empty weight: 190,000 lbs
Max takeoff weight: 477,000 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 35,000 + ft.
Max speed: Mach 1.5
Engines: 4 KAC M51-QX-81B02 turbofans, each providing 32,600 lbs of thrust with afterburner
Range: approx. 6,500 nautical miles without mid-air refueling
Armament: 3 internal weapons bays accomodating up to 85 Mk82 general purpose bombs or Mk62 naval mines or 30 CBU-87/89 cluster munitions or CBU-97 Sensor Fused Weapons, and up to 24 JDAMs/JSOWs/JASSMs or Mk84 general purpose bombs
Price: $250 million ($225 million for alliance members, $200 million for regional allies)

The Kestrel bomber is a new alternative to the Peregrine; while being much less stealthy, it does offer some advantages. It carries a larger payload than the Peregrine, is faster than the Peregrine and of course is significantly cheaper. Its blended wing/body configuration, coupled with variable-geometry (swing-wing) design and powerful turbofans give it a high cruising speed while maintaining low RCS and keeping payload high. The wings are set forward for takeoff, landing, and high-altitude maximum cruise; they are swept to the rear for high subsonic and supersonic flight. Defensively, the Kestrel packs chaff, flares and the powerful new KAC DC9X electronic countermeasures suite.

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KAC-6 Avenger
Type: Multi-role attack and fighter aircraft
Crew: 1
Length: 47 ft. 7 in.
Height: 13 ft. 1 in.
Wingspan: 34 ft. 6 in.
Empty weight: 21,499 lbs
Max takeoff weight: 46,305 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 50,000 ft.
Max speed: Mach 1.5
Engines: 2 KAC M344-B-82 turbofans, each 20,500 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 1,200 nautical miles with external tanks and without mid-air refueling
Armament: 1 M77-C 23mm cannon; 13 hardpoints for external ordnance (combinations of AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, SLAM, SLAM-ER, Walleye, Maverick missiles; JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs, mines and rockets) Note: also, any missiles of your own that are compatible with the weapons pods for the above weapons can also be used.
Price: $48 million ($43 million for alliance members, $39 million for regional allies)

Avengers are capable of filling any role required by a modern military force. It has highly sophisticated sensors and avionics to make it ideal for SEAD missions, and it can remain in the air for long enough to allow it to provide dedicated Close Air Support (CAS). It has excellent cockpit visibility and a helmet-mounted sight to give it superior handling and therefore an edge in dogfighting. Its foreplane/delta wing configuration are intentionally aerodynamically unstable to give it incredibly easy turning even at supersonic speeds, and also provide low drag and enhanced lift.

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KAC-8 Serpent
Type: Multi-role attack and fighter aircraft
Crew: 1
Length: 46 ft. 3 in.
Height: 15 ft. 5 in.
Wingspan: 26 ft. 3 in.
Empty weight: 14,600 lbs
Max takeoff weight: 27,500 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 50,000 ft.
Max speed: Mach 2.6+
Engines: 1 KAC M8-X-03 turbofan, providing 20,000 lbs of thrust
Range: approx. 1,050 nautical miles with external tanks and without mid-air refueling
Armament: 1 M77-D 27mm cannon; 6 hardpoints for external ordnance (combinations of AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, SLAM, SLAM-ER, Walleye, Maverick missiles; JSOW, JDAM, general purpose bombs, mines and rockets) Note: also, any missiles of your own that are compatible with the weapons pods for the above weapons can also be used.
Price: $47 million ($42 million for alliance members, $38 million for regional allies)

The Serpent is a brand-new aircraft that incorporates many new advances in aerospace design. It features advanced triplex digital fly-by-wire controls, laser inertial navigation system, pulse-Dopplar radar, wide-angle heads-up display and three multipurpose monochrome heads-down displays. Despite its the lower amount of munitions it is capable of handling, its speed more than makes up for it as it can infiltrate enem airspace, deliver its ordnance and be out much faster than the KAC-1, KAC-3 or KAC-6.

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KAC-9 Farsight
Type: airborne warning and control system (AWACS)
Crew: 21
Length: 145 ft.
Height: 41 ft. 4 in.
Wingspan: 130 ft. 9 in.
Radome diameter: 30 ft.
Max takeoff weight: 347,000 lbs
Ceiling: approx. 29,000 ft.
Optimum speed: 360 mph (Mach 0.48 )
Engines: 4 KAC BF99-Y4-600A turbofans, each 21,000 lbs static thrust
Endurance: approx. 11 hours without mid-air refueling
Armament: none
Price: $275 million ($240 million for alliance members, $200 million for regional allies)

AWACS craft play a major role in modern military operations, as it is essential to have up-to-date, accurate intelligence on enemy positions to both adequately defend friendly forces and effectively attack enemy forces. This system acts an airborne command center, with its advanced equipment long-range radar, IFF transponders, GPS systems, ESM, and Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) allowing it to marshal friendly forces effectively. Battlefield data is collected with its sensors and downlinked to other command posts, and it can in turn direct forces on its own. Despite its lack of weapons, it has adequate defenses in that it can detect incoming enemies at a very long range and can call up friendly fighters for protection while it makes an escape.

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Your deisgn intrigues me... I look forward to stats.

Your deisgn intrigues me... I look forward to stats.

stats added.

Sure, stats are thus:

GFB-26 SEABOLT

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The Seabolt is developed as a multi-role fighter that can double as a high-speed stealth bomber. Many advanced systems have been incorporated into the design, including an electronic jamming pod on the underside (optional). Large bays can carry up to 10,000 lbs. of ordinance and has the ability to launch multiple cruise missiles at once. Radar absorbing alloys and paint are used in construction, making the aircraft nearly invisible at night.

General Characteristics:

Height: 10.6 feet (3.23 meters)
Wingspan: 46 feet (14.02 meters)
Length: 64 feet (19.51 meters)
Weight: 33,000 pounds empty and 79,000 pounds fully loaded.
Engines: GT-200 afterburning turbine engines (3D vectored engines)
Performance: Maximum speed Mach 2.4, cruising at Mach 1.6, surface ceiling at 60,000 feet
Crew: 2 (Pilot and Systems operator)
Electronic Sytems: Internal active jamming gear, TFR (Terrain Following Radar), GED (Passive radar detector)
Armament: 27 mm forward mounted cannon, (Combination of armor piercing and explosive rounds), two main ordinance bays, two intake-side bays, 6 wing hardpoints
Cost: $55,000,000

ZaS-27M FIREBIRD
(Leased from Zoogie)

The ZaS-27M is the naval version of the fighter at the cutting edge of technology. It boasts a wide array of new systems, including the AN/QRS-122 'Phantom' radar, 3D-thrust vectoring systems, the Taurus active ECM system, and is ESTOL capable. With enlarged wings, it also carries more fuel and comes carrier-capable.

General Characteristics:

Manufactured by: Zoogie Aerospace Corporation
Country of origin: The Free Lands of Zoogiedom
Engines: Two Es-266-24X afterburning turbofan engines with combined thrust rated at 64,000-lbs
Performance: Max speed Mach 2.32; cruise speed Mach 1.55; automated 3D thrust vectoring up to 30 degrees; service ceiling 59,000ft
Personnel: One
Hardpoints: Internal cannon (20mm/620rds/propels bullets towards target as much as possible), internal bottom bays (6 AAMS), fuselage-side bays (4 IR AAMs), four wing hardpoints; two wingtip hardpoints if necessary but not advised.
Cost: $50,000,000

More Info and Images: At Zoogie's Post (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140675&highlight=)

GAF-35 JSF

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A stealthy, supersonic multi-role fighter, the JSF is one of the top in its class. Outfitted for a variety of tasks, it can perform rapid strike, air superiority, and high altitude patrol. Granzian Aeronautics has added several new systems, including electro-magnetic lock targeting (ELT) and an infrared heat sensor. The JSF is also armed with a backup electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) and advanced electronically scanned array (AESA) multi-function radar, allowing it to accurately pinpoint and destroy targets. There are three different variations GAF-35A (CTOL), GAF-35B (STOVL), GAF-35C (CV).

General Characteristics (GAF-35A):

Length: 15.4 meters
Height: 4.6 meters
Wingspan: 10.6 meters
Engines: Two afterburning P&W F135 turbofan engines
Thrust: 30,000 pounds each engine
Maximum take-off weight: 27,216 kilograms
Maximum speed: Mach 1.9
Armament: 2 AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, 27mm internal cannon, fuselage-side bays, 4 wing hardpoints (Joint Direct Attack Munition)
Personnel: One
Cost: $40,000,000

GAF-35B (STOVL):
Same as GAF-35A, but without the 27mm internal cannon.
Cost: $40,000,000

GAF-35C (CV):
Slight change in the general dynamics, otherwise the same.

Length: 15.5 meters
Height: 4.6 meters
Wingspan: 13.1 meters
Cost: $42,000,000

AV-8B HARRIER II (VSTOL)

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The Harrier II extends the capabilities of the Harrier with the introduction of a multi-mode radar and beyond-visual-range missile capability. It is able to respond instantly to requests for air support and deliver large weapon loads on target. With VSTOL capabilities, the Harrier II is able to land on virtually any naval vessel.

General Characteristics:

Wingspan: 9.25 meters
Length: 14.55 meters
Height: 3.55 meters
Empty weight: 6,764 kilograms
Maximum vertical take-off weight: 9,413 kilograms
Maximum take-off weight: 14,061 kilograms
Maximum payload: 5,350 kilograms
Maximum speed at sea level: 0.90 Mach
Maximum speed at altitude: 0.94 Mach
Engine: 1 Rolls Royce Pegasus 11-61 (105.8 kN)
Radar: Raytheon APG-65 Pulse Doppler Radar
Missiles: Air-to-air Raytheon AMRAAM and Sparrow missiles, air-to-surface AGM-65 Maverick missiles, anti-ship Harpoon and Sea Eagle missiles, 25mm cannon, 6 wing hardpoints
Cost: $30,000,000

E-3 SENTRY (AWACS)

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The E-3 Sentry is an airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft that provides all-weather surveillance, command, control and communications. Can be modified to be carrier capable, this aircraft is instrumental in combat control.

General Characteristics:

Primary Function: Airborne surveillance, command, control and communications
Power Plant: Four Pratt and Whitney TF33-PW-100A turbofan engines
Thrust: 21,000 pounds (9,450 kilograms) each engine
Length: 145 feet, 6 inches (44 meters)
Wingspan: 130 feet, 10 inches (39.7 meters)
Height: 41 feet, 4 inches (12.5 meters)
Rotodome: 30 feet in diameter (9.1 meters), 6 feet thick (1.8 meters), mounted 11 feet (3.33 meters) above fuselage
Speed: Optimum cruise 360 mph
Ceiling: Above 29,000 feet (8,788 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 347,000 pounds (156,150 kilograms)
Endurance: More than 8 hours (unrefueled)
Crew: 4
Cost: $30 million

VIZON UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE

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The Vizon can carry out surveillance, find, track and designate targets and carry out battle damage assessment. With the small and quick design, it is also ideal for gathering intelligence on enemy fleets as well as monitor a specific area.

General Characteristics:

Length, Blades Folded: 23 feet
Rotor Blade Diameter: 28 feet
Height: 9 feet 8 inches
Gross Weight: 2,550 lbs
Engine: Rolls Royce Allison GA250-C20W
Baseline payload: Thermal image telescoptic camera, Multi-Mission Optronic Stabilised Payload (UMOSP), carries up to 50 pounds of equipment
Sensors: Electro-optical and infrared sensors, laser designator
Maximum speed: 130+ knots
Ceiling: 23,000 feet
Endurance: 7+ hours, 4 hours patrol at a combat radius of 115 nm
Cost: $10 million

The prototype Sky Ranger 2 (Smaller version) has entered final testing

Sky Ranger 2 Pre-Production model
So far it has reached a top speed of: 360 mph ( 385mph for turbofans)
However the recomended is: 345mph (370mph for turbofans)
Length: 57 feet, 6 inches (17.5 meters)
Height: 18 feet, 3 inches (5.6 meters)
Maximum gross, take-off: 53,000 pounds (23,850 kilograms)
Wingspan:80 feet, 7 inches (28 meters)
Ceiling: 30,000 feet (9,100 meters)
Crew: Five
Price with propellers: $150 million
With turbofans: $195 million
(Note that the original prototype version has naval landing ability and has a stronger air frame than the production model, but costs $270 million)

The prototype Sky Ranger 2 (Smaller version) has entered final testing

Sky Ranger 2 Pre-Production model
So far it has reached a top speed of: 360 mph ( 385mph for turbofans)
However the recomended is: 345mph (370mph for turbofans)
Length: 57 feet, 6 inches (17.5 meters)
Height: 18 feet, 3 inches (5.6 meters)
Maximum gross, take-off: 53,000 pounds (23,850 kilograms)
Wingspan:80 feet, 7 inches (28 meters)
Ceiling: 30,000 feet (9,100 meters)
Crew: Five
Price with propellers: $150 million
With turbofans: $195 million
(Note that the original prototype version has naval landing ability and has a stronger air frame than the production model, but costs $270 million)

Well so far noone has actually posted a decent carrier capable AWACs or AEW aircraft so i would point you int eh direction of United Elias's EA-60 family, it has a very useful AEW version. It is also one of the few weapon's capable AEW aircraft out there.

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GM-01 Spartan Multirole VTOL Fighter
Length: 60 feet, 10 inches
Height: 16 feet, 6 inches
Wingspan: 65 feet unswept, 40 feet swept forward, 36 feet swept back
Empty Weight: 42,000 lbs
Max Takeoff Weight: 72,000 lbs
Speed: Mach 1.4 Supercruise, Mach 2.9 max
Armament: One 20mm Vulcan; 3 internal weapons bays capable of carrying up to eight A2A missiles or two 1000 lb bombs; 6 external hardpoints for fuel tanks, up to 12 missiles, or other ordinance.
Combat Radius: 1200 miles
Crew: 2
Cost: $105 million. 10% discount to regional allies, 5% discount to CAP members.

GM's first self-designed fighter. Utilizing a hybrid engine design taking characteristics from both the F/A-22's F-119 and SR-71's J-58 engines, the engines also feature vectorable platypus exhausts, liquid nitrogren cooled water based nozzle cooling system, and the ability to route thrust through downward pointing nozzles for VTOL ability. The Spartan's unique variable geometry wings swing through over 90 degrees of angle, enabling the pilot to take full advantage of the benefits of forward swept, unswept, and swept wings. This, combined with the vectored thrust engines and forward deflectable canards, provides unheard of maneuverability, which, combined with the excellent view the pilot and RIO the large bubble canopy, drooped nose, and low rear section provides, make the GM-01 an incredible dogfighter. The stealthiness of this aircraft with external stores is comparable to that of the F-35 JSF; with no external stores used, the aircraft is nearly invisible to all detection systems.

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GM-01 Spartan Multirole VTOL Fighter
Length: 60 feet, 10 inches
Height: 16 feet, 6 inches
Wingspan: 65 feet unswept, 40 feet swept forward, 36 feet swept back
Empty Weight: 42,000 lbs
Max Takeoff Weight: 72,000 lbs
Speed: Mach 1.4 Supercruise, Mach 2.9 max
Armament: One 20mm Vulcan; 3 internal weapons bays capable of carrying up to eight A2A missiles or two 1000 lb bombs; 6 external hardpoints for fuel tanks, up to 12 missiles, or other ordinance.
Combat Radius: 1200 miles
Crew: 2
Cost: $105 million. 10% discount to regional allies, 5% discount to CAP members.

GM's first self-designed fighter. Utilizing a hybrid engine design taking characteristics from both the F/A-22's F-119 and SR-71's J-58 engines, the engines also feature vectorable platypus exhausts, liquid nitrogren cooled water based nozzle cooling system, and the ability to route thrust through downward pointing nozzles for VTOL ability. The Spartan's unique variable geometry wings swing through over 90 degrees of angle, enabling the pilot to take full advantage of the benefits of forward swept, unswept, and swept wings. This, combined with the vectored thrust engines and forward deflectable canards, provides unheard of maneuverability, which, combined with the excellent view the pilot and RIO the large bubble canopy, drooped nose, and low rear section provides, make the GM-01 an incredible dogfighter. The stealthiness of this aircraft with external stores is comparable to that of the F-35 JSF; with no external stores used, the aircraft is nearly invisible to all detection systems.

Preatonia, you just won a whole bunch of military hardware! everything from the Austo-Hungary Bettig thread infact! includeing 5 Pre-Production F-92s! except they do not have Thrust vector or Anti-Radar.

The Sky Ranger 2 entered final trials and is being mass produced. The sheer ability of the workers has driven the price to $51 million with propellers and $60 million with turbo fans and $140 million with a special made like the prototype

The Praetonian MOD select committee assigned to choose which aircraft to purchase has returned with the following conclusions:

The requirement for 350 JSF-type aircraft will be filled by:

200 Seabolts, from Hybalt Industries (COMPLETE)
75 Spartans, from Great Matean Industries (COMPLETE)
25 Narwhales from North Korean Nations (COMPLETE)
50 Manta Rays from Soviet Haaregrad

The requirement for 25 AWAC systems will be filled by:

5 Carrier based EA-60s from United Elias (carrier AWAC requirement)
5 Sky Ranger 2s from Evil Gopher Eaters (COMPLETE)
15 E-3 Sentries from Hybalt Aeronautics (COMPLETE)

The requirement for 120 strategic bombers will be filled by:

100 Peregrines from Kelanthian Arms Conglomorate (COMPLETE)
20 B-52 Stratofortresses from Grays Hills

We have now made an additional requirement, that being for 35 air-refuelling aircraft.

wait, the F-92 Narwhale is a fighter!

This isent the thread to do this Praetonia, and I know ive been stalking you but COULD you PLEASE Respond to CF's Retreat...
Thx

wait, the F-92 Narwhale is a fighter!

Ahh yes oops I will change the thing, dont worry Im still buying some, more in fact!

Camewot what exactly do you want me to say? There isnt much to say other than 'they went back to their base' (although in a a better way obviously), I didnt think I needed to, but as you want me to I shall.

20 Narwhales will cost... i second please

*computing data*

20 times 42.5 wich eqauls 850, plus 000,000 =

Total Price: 850,000,000 United States Dollars. would like this in a differnt currency?

US Dollars is fine (for simplicity).

I ordered 25by the way.

US Dollars is fine (for simplicity).

I ordered 25by the way.

5 you go tfrom the Austo-Hungary Elimination Prize.

Oh right yes. I won so much stuff I cant keep track of all of it [/smugness]

Check your telegrams.

Re-posted in the appropriate thread by Praetonia

75 GM-01s comes to a total cost of $7.875 billion. The planes will be ferried to Praetonia, unarmed, immediately, accompanied by 5 KC-767 tankers. Please ensure your coastal patrols are aware of this.

200 GFB-26 Seabolts and 15 Sentrys come to $11.45 billion. Delivery will be made in 2 NS weeks, and will be shipped via cargo ship. Thank you for purchasing from Hybalt Industries.

5 Sky Ranger 2s shall be shipped to your country, what would be best, cargo ship or direct flight?

KAC Order Confirmation

KAC is pleased to send you 100 KAC-4 Peregrine bombers for the amount of $72.25 billion dollars. The order will ship immediately and should arrive in 1 day RL. Thank you for your business.

Name: F-27A/B Manta Ray (Pas 41B Flashbulb)

Primary Function: low observability tactical fighter, combat capable conversion trainer
Contractor: Pheonix Air Systems
Power Plant: 1x TF560-445-V 44 500lbs of thrust
Length: 50' (15.25 meters)
Height: 13'10" (4.25 meters)
Wingspan: 39'6' (12 meters)
Ceiling: 57 000' (17 075 meters)
Speed: Mach 2.1
Ferry Range: 2 250 miles
Empty Weight: 21 000lbs (9 525kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 49 340lbs (22 400kg)
Armament: 1x GAU-25-3 25mm cannon with 350 rounds, up to 5 000lbs(2 267kg) of internal and 15 000lbs (6 804kg) of external stores including AA-8 Aphid, AA-10 Alamo, AA-11 Adder, AA-12 Archer AAMs, ARM-10 Killer ARM, many other ASMs, smart and dumb bombs, cannon pods, rocket pods, ECM pods and fuel tanks
Unit cost: $42 000 000USD
Crew: 1, 2 in B model

Notes:
This variant of the Pas 41 design is designed to be multi-role, low observability fighter to replace the F-33 Sniper. The aircraft began entering service with frontline units around 2008-2009. The design was influenced by the F-35 JSF, YF-23 Black Widow, Yak-141 and Rafale. The aircraft has a smaller radar signature then the JSF, mainly due to it's flatter design.
-uses newly developed RDR-360 synthetic aperture radar system, including a front sensor with a 300km range and a rear sensor with a 120km range
-able to track 16 targets at a time and fire at 4
-able to engage stealth targets
-full look down/shoot down
-includes 6 different active air-to-air modes(one being anti-stealth), 4 different air-to-surface modes and a passive mode for SEAD
-fitted with all new avionics suite:
-64 bit computer
-improved terrain-following radar
-high-resolution FLIR
-high-resolution TV
-improved ECM suite
-new combat databus system allowing aircraft to communicate with each other and hand-off targets
-ALQ-224 Peeker Seeker advanced radar location system
-state-of-the-art nav/attack systems
http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/68292/flashbulb.gif

Name: F-27A/B Manta Ray (Pas 41B Flashbulb)

Primary Function: low observability tactical fighter, combat capable conversion trainer
Contractor: Pheonix Air Systems
Power Plant: 1x TF560-445-V 44 500lbs of thrust
Length: 50' (15.25 meters)
Height: 13'10" (4.25 meters)
Wingspan: 39'6' (12 meters)
Ceiling: 57 000' (17 075 meters)
Speed: Mach 2.1
Ferry Range: 2 250 miles
Empty Weight: 21 000lbs (9 525kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 49 340lbs (22 400kg)
Armament: 1x GAU-25-3 25mm cannon with 350 rounds, up to 5 000lbs(2 267kg) of internal and 15 000lbs (6 804kg) of external stores including AA-8 Aphid, AA-10 Alamo, AA-11 Adder, AA-12 Archer AAMs, ARM-10 Killer ARM, many other ASMs, smart and dumb bombs, cannon pods, rocket pods, ECM pods and fuel tanks
Unit cost: $42 000 000USD
Crew: 1, 2 in B model

Notes:
This variant of the Pas 41 design is designed to be multi-role, low observability fighter to replace the F-33 Sniper. The aircraft began entering service with frontline units around 2008-2009. The design was influenced by the F-35 JSF, YF-23 Black Widow, Yak-141 and Rafale. The aircraft has a smaller radar signature then the JSF, mainly due to it's flatter design.
-uses newly developed RDR-360 synthetic aperture radar system, including a front sensor with a 300km range and a rear sensor with a 120km range
-able to track 16 targets at a time and fire at 4
-able to engage stealth targets
-full look down/shoot down
-includes 6 different active air-to-air modes(one being anti-stealth), 4 different air-to-surface modes and a passive mode for SEAD
-fitted with all new avionics suite:
-64 bit computer
-improved terrain-following radar
-high-resolution FLIR
-high-resolution TV
-improved ECM suite
-new combat databus system allowing aircraft to communicate with each other and hand-off targets
-ALQ-224 Peeker Seeker advanced radar location system
-state-of-the-art nav/attack systems
http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/68292/flashbulb.gif

OOC:

Day late and a dollar short, I think.

OOC:
Day late and a dollar short, I think.

I hope not. :(

Actually they look very good, Ill take 50.

What are your requirements for tanker aircraft?

judging from your pruchases would will require one that can handle hose and drogue aswell as pod and boom systems. so we would offer our CFU-9 Long Shore tanker conversion:

http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/aircraft.html#long

The Sky Ranger 2s are just going to fly in. They will be there in 12 hours

Actually they look very good, Ill take 50.

Of my plane? :oops: *crosses fingers*

Yes of course, how much will they cost us?

The following money is wired:

850,000,000 – F-92 Narwhales
7,875,000,000 – GM-01 Spartans
11,450,000,000 – GFB-26 Seabolts and E-3 Sentries
72,250,000,000 – KAC-4 Peregrines
2,100,000,000 – F-27 Manta Rays

The money for Evil Gohper Eaters' AWACs planes has also been wired.

This entire project has worked out at around 100bn, but I have bought anything for a RL week or two, and now Praetonia has a top notch airforce!

Does Praetonia need a space-defense force? The republic of Anime-Otakus could provide you with one... In addition our space fightres are capable of atmospheric flight as well.

(OOC Note: Futuretech. :P)

Takizawa Ryuichi
Minister of Trade, Industry and Community Development
Republic of Anime-Otakus

OOC: No, sorry. We are modern / near future (2015 kinda thing) tech.

Yes of course, how much will they cost us?

Looks like you found the price in your next post. :P

Enjoy the fighters, they're also available in a S/VTOL version.

FWS Defense Corporation produces MiG-29s, MiG-31s, and Su-25s... If you want to buy any of them, check of the FWS DEFENSE CORPORATION STORE.


Also, we are working on developing the MiG-52 Monsoon.

Yes of course, how much will they cost us?

Looks like you found the price in your next post. :P

Enjoy the fighters, they're also available in a S/VTOL version.

Hhmmm... I dont know why I wrote that....

How much is the S/VTOL version?

Oh, and FWS, we deplore your fascist government, but even if we hadn't already embargoed you, the requirements have been filled.

Yes of course, how much will they cost us?

Looks like you found the price in your next post. :P

Enjoy the fighters, they're also available in a S/VTOL version.

Hhmmm... I dont know why I wrote that....

How much is the S/VTOL version?

Oh, and FWS, we deplore your fascist government, but even if we hadn't already embargoed you, the requirements have been filled.

They're the same price, my apologies for the delay.