NationStates Jolt Archive

EDIT: The Commonwealth is now neutral, and will stay out of any action relating to FWS.

The nation of Fascist White States have in recent weeks, become more and more intolerable. He has trampled on the rights of numerous sovereign nations. FWS forces, in the process of invading Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Indonesia, committed countless acts that breach human rights to an extent that has not been seen in a long time. Deportations of hundreds of thousands, even millions of women, then sold for a profit, have occurred. FWS has shown a disregard for human life and an unwillingness to respect accepted protocols of war. Reports of mass hangings of suspected terrorists have occurred, though the vast majority has been innocent civilians.

The Commonwealth knows that with the withdrawal of AMF support, many nations are now preparing to invade FWS and depose of the government there. We urge those countries to rethink their strategies. What is to be gained out of this invasion? FWS will only ignore any attack while grossly inflating his resources (a.k.a. Godmodding). We ask instead that a mass ignore of his nation and policies to happen. Consider the advantages:

(1) No lives are lost.
(2) FWS actions will no longer affect those who are against it.
(3) There is no effective retaliation.

However, this method will only work with broad support of our friends in the world. Therefore, we ask the international community to heed our call and Ignore FWS. ( OOC: Feel free to be as creative as you want in the process.)

Nathanial Sun
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC:
What the hell do you people expect? Practically everybody on NS tried to invade him, even though he started out fairly well, most newbs have a few problems when they start, up until half the bloody nations on the planet decalred war on him he did OK.
I propose that people OOCly agree to STOP INVADING FWS, its ruining his chances to enjoy the game.

All this crap only blew up when he and Unified Sith engaged each other. The main reason people are annoyed by him is that he godmods to hell. If he'd backed down then all the attacking nations would probably have turned on US for keeping the war going; instead he just would not accept any defeat or loss.

I am an ally of his, I think the wars have been a great experiance for all nations(especialy newbies)

...I propose that people OOCly agree to STOP INVADING FWS, its ruining his chances to enjoy the game.*Proudly totes his "Honk if you haven't declared war on a newbie in the last two months" bumper sticker.* Seriously though, the name Fascist White States isn't exactly conductive to good first impressions. Then again, Ur an ass was a respected player here for a long time...

it simple GIVE THE LIL GIT A CHANCE, we all had trubble starting and as DGNT sead he/she did start of wellish, then the US thing and now all people want to go to war with him/her just leave him/her alone.
So what if he/she has commited Mass murder, Hangings etc ITS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE, ive seen worse hell ive done worse i've killed off enitre planets (im space tech) with a really nasty Virus and destroyed enitre solor systems you dont see people shouting "mass ignore" at me for it.

let him/her be so what if his/her nation is Evil its no reason to Ignore him/her, and the godmoding well anyone has done that once he/she is new he/she will understand whats what and whats not, if not then fine Mass ignore him/her BUT GIVE HIM/HER A CHANCE

We didn't sell for profit... The money was used to finance the rebuilding of FWS. The expected rebuilding funds from foreign nations never materialized in the amounts needed. Also we had to pay to rebuild a 47 story building the terrorists blew up..


God Modding??? In the most recent war against US and his team I lost over 300,000 reservists.

Also my army is slightly less than the 5% people always talk about. My Reserves push the number up to about 8-10% but they are only called during a time of emergency. If the entire world wasn't hell bent to destroy me...

Ask yourself who just declared war on me? Who is amassing on my borders... Sith...

Fascist White States
Negotiator


Founded: 10 May 2004
Posts: 1329

^^ That's why I'm ignoring him. He's flooding II with useless threads all the time, and I'm just not gonna pay any attention to him anymore.

However, this method will only work with broad support of our friends in the world. Therefore, we ask the international community to heed our call and Ignore FWS. ( OOC: Feel free to be as creative as you want in the process.)

Nathanial Sun
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC: An IC call for a mass ignore? :roll:

How about not an all out ignore of FWS, but rather, an all out ignore of the war itself. And, let's call on the mods to delete the threads. Seriously. As a nuetral, non involved nation, let me say, it's bull. There's at least 300, all of which are clogging the forums, and already WMDs have been used in mass.

The wars a mess, with people not having enough time to check all the threads before posting, and thereby having one thread ahead or behind another.

I'm saying we put an end to the war. None of the players are necesarily bad, just the style is. It's like WWVIII, except with not all of NS, just the majority, involved.

OOC: Granzi, why not just ignore him yourself instead of trying to pat youself on the back saying how wonderful you are by rallying everyone to your cause? I don't publish lists of people that I ignore nor do I run around saying we should all ignore someone. I basically ignore the person/nation and if that person wants to know why, I inform them of my reason privately (via telegram).

It's like WWVIII, except with not all of NS, just the majority, involved.Bah. Free Outer Eugenia did not send the flower of it's youth to die in that disgusting war of capital. Yay for Anarcho-nonparticipationism!

I think Granzi has a point. FWS is just, how do a put it, an ass. He is annoying and not just that, but just screewing up the game.

I go with the deletion of his wars, he seems also far too agressive for his people (virtually) to have a good morale, and his military is probaly very hurt, beyond what he thinks.

I know I'm a noob and all, but I have seen many wars, at least read over them. He does not do what a few people call "Common Grounds". Likes these
No army is perfect
Naval Vessels suck, always messing up
Tanks can not run all day long, treds always snap
Aircraft cost highly, having a great airforce is not always good
Expect losses, and never ignore them, becouse it is part of the RP
Always admit defeat if you are defeated, don't stoop to resestance levels.

These are just a few, but very broad. I had a war with a friend of mine (we started at the same time) and still had problems incorporating everything, which measn not everyone, experianced or not can put in everything.

I have seen him put some in, but not as much as a battle or war would expect.

I go with the deletion of his wars, he seems also far too agressive for his people (virtually) to have a good morale, and his military is probaly very hurt, beyond what he thinks.

I know I'm a noob and all, but I have seen many wars, at least read over them. He does not do what a few people call "Common Grounds". Likes these
No army is perfect
Naval Vessels suck, always messing up
Tanks can not run all day long, treds always snap
Aircraft cost highly, having a great airforce is not always good
Expect losses, and never ignore them, becouse it is part of the RP
Always admit defeat if you are defeated, don't stoop to resestance levels.

These are just a few, but very broad. I had a war with a friend of mine (we started at the same time) and still had problems incorporating everything, which measn not everyone, experianced or not can put in everything.

I have seen him put some in, but not as much as a battle or war would
expect.


I lost 300,000 soldiers and 1,000,000 civilians in one war... I call that admitting to losses.

You also dont seem to realize that ECONOMIES CRUMBLE when they are the size of your army and nation.

I am ignoring him because he is making useless posts and spamming on II.

Granzi, I already tried this, here is a link.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146721&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

CM will not participate in this ignore.
CM will only ignore those war posts that are unreasonable (from a professional point of view not an academic or ideological point of view neither of which has ever reflected reality.)
You all want to bash this guy for doing stuff you think is unrealistic. Hah.
Almost everything I've seen you guys post, especially regarding war and economies, is very unrealistic. Most of you are high schoolers who have no idea how a national economy really works or how real wars are fought. Who the hell are you to judge someone else.
Communist Louisiana, if you had an inkling of what you were talking about, you would know that national economies are not dependent on the size of your militaries. Indeed, history itself shows that economies are very dependent on military spending. Half of the world's cities would not exist if it weren't for the military being engaged in some war.
America's economic greatness due to the fact that we had to fight world war II, Korea, Vietnam, the cold war with its arm race, and Desert Storm 1 and 2.

Doujin
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:38 pm Post subject:
Fascist White States
Negotiator


Founded: 10 May 2004
Posts: 1329

^^ That's why I'm ignoring him. He's flooding II with useless threads all the time, and I'm just not gonna pay any attention to him anymore.

Then why do you always post in his damn threads. This makes you look like a liar.
Many of you don't like his policies but it says on the index page for NS that players are free to persecute their citizens however they see fit to. Further, just because FWS says he's attacking Britain and killing off all the inhabitants does not mean any of you are affecting by his rps. No one is holding a gun to your head saying you must rp with him, that you must respond to his threads.

But we all know what the real vendetta here is. You all just don't like his nation name. And because of that, you don't llike him.
You know what. Those of you who want to ignore him, go right ahead. But there is no way in hell that you can force the rest of us to do so. I do not know you and, like I said to Matich in the other post, I don't have to listen to you.
I will judge FWS myself. I will not judge him based on the words of people who:
1. are ignoring him cause they don't like his policies or his nation's name
2. are criticising him on stuff they know nothing about themselves.

Then why do you always post in his damn threads. This makes you look like a liar.

Because I thought he was Free Pacific States when I first posted, and just continued with it.

I have realized that this issue has brought out the worst in some people. All this arguing back and forth, it never gets anywhere. People have their own opinions and it does not look like this situation is going to change. I proposed this Ignore so that the forum would not get clogged with dozens of threads relating to FWS. This was, I thought, the only nonviolent way, where everyone wouldn't get sucked down into a war that will never end. The Commonwealth will stay neutral from now on and not participate in any actions relating to FWS.

People should just leave FWS alone and let him try to have some fun instead of being flamed constantly.

Then why do you always post in his damn threads. This makes you look like a liar.

Because I thought he was Free Pacific States when I first posted, and just continued with it.
Does he post like Free Pacific States? How long did it take for you to figure out he wasn't.

I've only posted in one of his threads, Christianmissionries.

The Commonwealth will stay neutral from now on and not participate in any actions relating to FWS.

That's more like it.

I've only posted in one of his threads, Christianmissionries.

I've only posted in one of his threads, Christianmissionries.What made you think he was FPS? And when you figured it out, you continued anyway.

Locked for flamebaiting.