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Today, the Allanean Arms corporation announces the commencement of building of 3 Predator-Class battleships, which will be ready in 21 years (3 RL weeks). The ships will be built on three separate shipyards.
Name: Predator
Developed: Allanean Arms / The Silver Turtle
Dimensions:
Length: 1021m
Beam: 84m
Total Width: 332m

Armament(offensive):
24 30" ETC-acceleratred cannons, range- can fire to extra-planetary targets if need be (not v accurately of course)
480 missile tubes, can be used for land attack or anti-ship missiles
40 76mm OTO Melara cannons

Armament (defensive):
60 AK-630 30mm cannon
20 Shrike SAM launchers
8 magazine-loaded torpedo tubes

Armour: Composite
Draft: 28 meters
Displacement (fully loaded): 1,750,000 tons
Troop Capacity:
1,500 troops

Aircraft Capacity:
100 Fighters.

Cruising speed: 20 knots
Maximium safe speed: 35 knots
Power plant: 8 reactors
Build Time: 7 years/ 2 RL weeks.

Draft:
Cost: NOT FOR SALE

http://aa.1asphost.com/AllyG/pred3.jpg
http://www.stewarts.net/zac/sealcrappy1.gif

Build Time: 2 years/ 2 RL weeks.

Ignored. Also, what about it's armour?

Build Time: 2 years/ 2 RL weeks.

Ignored. Also, what about it's armour?

Explain?

Build Time: 2 years/ 2 RL weeks.

Ignored. Also, what about it's armour?

Explain?

Do you actually understand how long it takes to build a ship? It takes 2 or 3 years just for a sub-standard corvette. A fully kitted out battleship on this scale would take decades. I do maritime design as one of my university courses, and, as this is an oil-driven city most of my time is spent looking at VLCCs and ULCCs. Even with modular construction, this cheap-rate ships still take six-ten years to build.

And no, I don't care how good or bad your workforce is or how fast they work. They could work 24/7 and all have PhDs in engineering, but it would still take into the double figures of years to build the basic hull, let alone kit it out.

2 years?... it took over 30-40 years to build one Doujin with hundreds of thousands +++ of men..

And how armoured is it? What type of armour?

OOC: It's Ineffable Advanced Arms Construction, if you're interested.
Armour, personally I'm in favour of artificial diamond but no-one else is. Most probably composite, d.u.'s too heavy, and the ship's a beast as it is.

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And no, I don't care how good or bad your workforce is or how fast they work. They could work 24/7 and all have PhDs in engineering, but it would still take into the double figures of years to build the basic hull, let alone kit it out.

Have you not noticed? This ship is highly advanced-thus he's obviously advanced in construction also. Think BEFORE you say.

your build time is fine to me.

That thing got enough guns? You'll have to devote a fair bit of space just to storing all that ammo.

That thing got enough guns? You'll have to devote a fair bit of space just to storing all that ammo.

Ship size= Yadda yadda Meters.

Large floating warehouse behind the ship storing all the ammo=Pretty big. :D

So what is the proper way to do it? is 2 years fine, TIN?

And no, I don't care how good or bad your workforce is or how fast they work. They could work 24/7 and all have PhDs in engineering, but it would still take into the double figures of years to build the basic hull, let alone kit it out.

Have you not noticed? This ship is highly advanced-thus he's obviously advanced in construction also. Think BEFORE you say.

your build time is fine to me.

What......the......

Do you even know anything about ship construction?

He's right about ship construction. By the time you lay the hulld down you'd run out of metal alone. Prefabricating parts and sections of the ship wouldn't help much either. It'd take a while and as a result wouldn't be as effective. A normal vessel would be much easier to build and less difficult to resupply.

Whatever, I'm your ally. Have fun. Make it a bit longer to construct though.

OOC:im sure he knows as much about future construction techniques as you do, what with them not existing yet in RL and all.

OOC:im sure he knows as much about future construction techniques as you do, what with them not existing yet in RL and all.

Its not just a question of outright construction...you need to be able to gather the materials, build the weapons, dredge the shipyards a few times over and gather up the necessary workforce. Assumign this is a new design you also have to conduct research and work out design faults and such. Building a ship requires an incredible amount of time and energy and whereas I don't really have that much of a problem with the ship itself (although speed is an issue, but Ive seen worse), saying it can be done in 2 years is laughable at best.

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What is the ships displacement? How about the thickness of it's armour? What is it's draft? What is it's propulsion system? It's very number-wanked for guns and it's carrying capacity but very sparse on vital naval data.

On the construction issue, it took my advanced (much more so than all but 800 other NS nations) 1 RL year to build 20 of my Revenge Battleships at 2 seperate shipyards with guns and weaponry being built by ordinance manufacturers and only fitted at the shipyards. During this time no other ships were built.

Ship construction is a very time consuming, complicated thing.

Today, the Allanean Arms corporation announces the commencement of building of 3 Predator-Class battleships, which will be ready in 12.5 years (3 RL weeks). The ships will be built on three separate shipyards.
Name: Predator
Developed: Allanean Arms / The Silver Turtle
Dimensions:
Length: 1021m
Beam: 84m
Total Width: 332m

Armament(offensive):
24 30" ETC-acceleratred cannons, range- can fire to extra-planetary targets if need be (not v accurately of course)
480 missile tubes, can be used for land attack or anti-ship missiles
40 76mm OTO Melara cannons

Armament (defensive):
60 AK-630 30mm cannon
20 Shrike SAM launchers
8 magazine-loaded torpedo tubes

Armour: Composite
Draft: 28 meters
Displacement (fully loaded): 1,750,000 tons
Troop Capacity:
1,500 troops

Aircraft Capacity:
100 Fighters.

Cruising speed: 20 knots
Maximium safe speed: 35 knots
Power plant: 8 reactors
Build Time: 7 years/ 2 RL weeks.

Displacement: Classified
Armour: Classified
Draft:
Cost: NOT FOR SALE

http://aa.1asphost.com/AllyG/pred3.jpg
http://www.stewarts.net/zac/sealcrappy1.gif

OOC: You still havn't changed your build time.

I have, actually.

I have, actually.

OOC: Build Time: 7 years/ 2 RL weeks.

You have, eh? mmhmm :roll:

OOC:um you do realize that ship is nearly a mile long. Thats extremely excessive. With the amount of resources your spending on those you could build probably build a dozen conventional battleships or more.

OOC:um you do realize that ship is nearly a mile long. Thats extremely excessive. With the amount of resources your spending on those you could build probably build a dozen conventional battleships or more.

Yeah, but they wouldn't be as cool.

OOC:um you do realize that ship is nearly a mile long. Thats extremely excessive. With the amount of resources your spending on those you could build probably build a dozen conventional battleships or more.

Yeah, but they wouldn't be as cool.
OOC: Indeed. Allanea wanted it to be excessive, not practical.