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OOC: This is THE FWS war thread as to consolidate things abit. If it is not posted here, then it is not official. Enough with the dozens of scattered threads.

Due to massive flamewars already, I'll take the liberty of laying down some rules. Hopefully we can start things over and have a good RP.

1. NO puppet wank. This includes other people not involved creating nations solely to make 1 post.

2. NO flaming. Can we keep things civil?

3. NO unusually large amount of nuclear warheads. In fact, NO nukes period. All nukes do is kill RP's.

4. NO repeat threads. I.I is clogged enough the way it is.

If any of these rules are borken by anybody, I will have the mods deal with the offender. Now, can we play nice please?

IC:

It has come to my attention that there has been much fighting and controversy over a nation known as Fascist White States. It is unclear at this point with all the mud slinging exactly what FWS has done to create such anger towards them. I know it is not our place to stick our noses in other nation's business, but we believe very strongly in defending those that cannot defend themselves.

While we may not be fans of what FWS has done, we see the true aggressors in this scenario to be the ones that are attacking FWS. We've seen little resolve on anybody's behalf to try and talk FWS into an agreement, and for that you are to blame.

In order to help end this conflict, Automagfreek herby offer FWS total amnesty under our banner. FWS will become a vassal state under The Excessively Armed Empire and will recieve all it's perks and protection. BUT, for this service we ask that FWS not intentionally shit stir or abuse our protection, for if you do I will personally destroy every last person in FWS.

There is my offer for peace, now FWS, what say you?


http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

If we can do this properly, without FWS godmodding, and his massive river swell up ill un-ignore him and play properly. Although, you must understand AMF that all the attacks we have made against him have been countered with some impossible act.

If we can do this properly, without FWS godmodding, and his massive river swell up ill un-ignore him and play properly. Although, you must understand AMF that all the attacks we have made against him have been countered with some impossible act.

OOC: Yes I know, but those that have attacked him aren't exactly innocent either. 5,000+ nuclear warheads comes to mind....

I wasn't part of that, I was just subjected to river's flooding to 1000 Miles, Kamikaze pilots for anything he can't counter, and the fact napalm doesnt bother him.

I wasn't part of that, I was just subjected to river's flooding to 1000 Miles, Kamikaze pilots for anything he can't counter, and the fact napalm doesnt bother him.

OOC: Hopefully we can put that behind us and start over. From what I've read he's willing to take his losses if anybody would actually give him a chance.

If he starts godmodding I will be the first to ignore him henceforth.

OCC: To me he's died and its over with, He is ignored for permanently by me and the RBA, i suggest allies do the same as this has just turned stupid. Also the reason why so many were used is because the last 5 nations that nuked him he said his ABM system stopped them all so we figured it had to be done in such number's that he couldn't stop it.

Seconded. For instance, I didn't use nuclear technology (though I could have), despite his godmodding. Honestly, it's impossible. You attack and he has well-trained and well-equipped troops wherever you go. You defend and he has the miraculous ability to smash anything. He has an SDI intiative despite not even having the capability to develop indigenous WMDs. He can somehow keep his troops fully supplied despite continuous attacks on his supply lines by aircraft and artillery. He can deploy thousands upon thousands of artillery pieces and never run out of ammunitions. He can deploy a one GIGATONNE nuclear device. He still has an airforce. His troops are totally unaffected by artillery, both HE and chemical, airstrikes, rockets, bombs and fatigue. These are just a sample.

OOC: My question to the world is why even bother with such a puny nation? He's just a newbie annoyance, if you ignore him, maybe he will have some sense.

To FWS: You're only like 14 days old, and we've got people here (Such as myself, which I just got ressurected, which is why it says I joined today, but I've got my 1.225 billion population, so I was formed in like april of last year), that are over a year old in NS. Why do you even think of messing with them? You do realize that someone could just shoot a few paperclips at you from a linear cannon and your nation would be completely obliterated, correct?

Have some sense. They *will* slaughter you in many ways.

OCC: To me he's died and its over with, He is ignored for permanently by me and the RBA, i suggest allies do the same as this has just turned stupid. Also the reason why so many were used is because the last 5 nations that nuked him he said his ABM system stopped them all so we figured it had to be done in such number's that he couldn't stop it.

OOC: If you ignore him then follow through and just ignore him, that includes posting in threads like this. Not much sense in following him around reminding him that he's been ignored.

OCC: To me he's died and its over with, He is ignored for permanently by me and the RBA, i suggest allies do the same as this has just turned stupid. Also the reason why so many were used is because the last 5 nations that nuked him he said his ABM system stopped them all so we figured it had to be done in such number's that he couldn't stop it.

OOC: If you ignore him then follow through and just ignore him, that includes posting in threads like this. Not much sense in following him around reminding him that he's been ignored.

OCC: i anit following him around? I just clearly stated in this Thread that he is ignored Permanently and the reason why so many nuke's were used. The amount of godmodding done by this nation is unbelievable, he has no idea at all how this works.

OCC: i anit following him around? I just clearly stated in this Thread that he is ignored Permanently and the reason why so many nuke's were used. The amount of godmodding done by this nation is unbelievable, he has no idea at all how this works.

OOC: Good then, I guess I'll be seeing you in some other thread than this one then. Later.

I'd be quite willing to continue it with a select few.

Now if we can get back to RP.....



Per Lord Dreadfire's orders, the 2nds and 4th fleets are prepped and ready to depart from St. Freeksburg port should FWS accept Lord Dreadfire's offer. These fleets are to ensure the safety of FWS.

Lord Damien would also like to remind all nations against FWS that until an answer is given you are to cease and desist all aggressions against Fascist White States. Starting now, if any attacks are made agaisnt FWS during these negotiations there will be an instant declaration of war on the offender.

We now leave things in the hands of Fascist White States.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires

Where is FWS?

I honestly wouldn't bother. I reckon he'll just BS his way through this one too.

FWS = Unignored

The BMP's took it as an oppurtunity, and rolled over the ribbon bridges in place. The 56th Mechanized infantry inside the lightly armoured casing of the infantry carriers, felt invincible. But that was not for long.

The Empire will be monitoring this situation closely. Hopefully, with the guidance of AMF he will learn to RP properly and mabey, someday be removed from the Empire's IGNORE List. We applaud AMF's patience in dealing with this situation as you will need alot.

In any case, we will remain sidelined but sympathetic to AMF's cause. Long live APTO.

Respectfully,
Emperor Mwto'ar Uganda
Foreign Diplomat/The Allied Powers
CEO Aero-Tech/IVA Industries
-APTO-
-NAIA-
-NATO-
-LFW-
-TFA-
-UTP-

[encrypted]

Dear Damien,

The Sambizie have activated some 50,000 Legions to be at your disposal and under your command if so desired.

Best Wishes,
Mwto'ar

"We've been prtecting Hendrik rhodes for a while now, wonder in we should help."
"defanetly sir, how about suggesting a peace keeping force or an allied expedition or something like that?"
"BRILLIANT! send the message with your idea."

TO: DAMIEN, LEADER OF AMF
FROM: ILLIORIAN GOV.
in anyway you require help just ask. At the moment there are 230 illiorian service persons protecting hendrik rhodes, the 5th and 7th fleets are on their way to help out.
ENCRYPTED
if you want maps... locations of anything just ask now

double post

[Transmission to all aggressors inside FWS]

This is a mass transmission to any and all aggressors inside Fascist White States. I will be arriving outside FWS territorial waters in a day or two along with 100,000 of His Lordship's Sentinels (OOC: No, not from The Matrix, they're my brand of soldier that shares the same name). Any and all units inside FWS are to retreat to the outermost borders of Fascist White States effective immediatly, or we will remove you ourselves. There will be no interference with current negotiations.

There will be 100% compliance or blood will be spilled.

http://invisionfree.com/forums/WMNK_Coalition/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=969543
-=Zander=-
-Warchief of AMF Forces-


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[Encrypted message to Sambizie]

Your help is greatly appreciated. Should there be interference in negotiations we will be needed additional assistance. We will keep you posted, and thank you.


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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

Octagon - May 24th, 2004
Comm: Sir, we've recieved a message from intelligence that there is, and/or will be a large war going on between a 14 day old nation, and quite a few larger ones. They suggest that we monitor the situation.

Admiral: Communications, please put me through to the capital.

Comm: Aye sir.

Admiral: Hello President Kyle, long time no chat.

Me: How long has it been? 9 years?

Admiral: About. Anyways, here's the sitation. We've got a large-scale war between 14 day old FWS and quite a few larger ones. Intelligence wants to monitor the sitation, but I don't know if that would be such a bright idea with Delta Fortress being built.

Me: Position the satellites over any and all war scenes. If Kamata is threatened, bring up the alerts to black and keep me updated. It'll be better that way.

Admiral: Aye sir. Admiral Michael Straussheimer out. Have a good day.

Comm: So that's a yes then admiral?

Admiral: Have intelligence position satellites on any and all war scenes. If anything happens at any time of day, awake or contact me immediatly.

How big is this river again?

Apparently 5 miles. However it seems to vary according to whenever it's needed to.

Hmm... The Freeks are telling us to withdraw.. No chance

The BMP's crossed the river silently, the Fascian troops were assumed to be too tired to fight, thanks to the constant bombardment earlier, or maybe they had actually gone along with the peace treaty.

No no no HS...you've been repulsed by FWS forces using their TMARs (Techno-Magical Ammunition Replacers) and oil wells nearby from their 1,000 foot-deep bunkers, not to mention their AAA and SAM-prooof MiG-21s and jam-proof radars. :roll: Don't bother man, he's just gonna BS it away.

If we can do this properly, without FWS godmodding, and his massive river swell up ill un-ignore him and play properly. Although, you must understand AMF that all the attacks we have made against him have been countered with some impossible act.


Monsoon season started a few days ago in Africa... So my nation being in africa will certainly be affected... Also Sith is where Angola would be in relation to me, a nation that would me massively affected by Monsoons, more so that my nation.

No no no HS...you've been repulsed by FWS forces using their TMARs (Techno-Magical Ammunition Replacers) and oil wells nearby from their 1,000 foot-deep bunkers, not to mention their AAA and SAM-prooof MiG-21s and jam-proof radars. :roll: Don't bother man, he's just gonna BS it away.

OOC: Knock it off or I bring in the mods. Don't start the flaming.

I appreciate your concern DPUO, but im gonna try RP this out fairly and see if he will actually go along with being hit for once. Calm myself.. this is turning to flame guys, lets just RP ok?

Alright, but I'll be interested to see what really happens. IF he shows himself capable of behaving in a realistic manner (i.e. not doing what he has done in the other threads) then why not. I'll un-ignore him if that happens.

Hmm... The Freeks are telling us to withdraw.. No chance

The BMP's crossed the river silently, the Fascian troops were assumed to be too tired to fight, thanks to the constant bombardment earlier, or maybe they had actually gone along with the peace treaty.



My men have been taking amphetamines and steroids... They're awake, paranoid, and overly aggressive.


Also the BMPS cannot cross a raging river. The river is flooding and the waters are moving at about 45-50 mph


In answer to those who say I don't have the bunkers... I had construction begin by foreign powers the day I started playing. They've been done for a few days now.

"We've been prtecting Hendrik rhodes for a while now, wonder in we should help."
"defanetly sir, how about suggesting a peace keeping force or an allied expedition or something like that?"
"BRILLIANT! send the message with your idea."

TO: DAMIEN, LEADER OF AMF
FROM: ILLIORIAN GOV.
in anyway you require help just ask. At the moment there are 230 illiorian service persons protecting hendrik rhodes, the 5th and 7th fleets are on their way to help out.
ENCRYPTED
if you want maps... locations of anything just ask now
just un reiteration

Posters are being stuck up around Hogsweat, mainly for recruition, but also to "let the people know" What "tragedies and disgusting acts" Have happened around FWS.

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"We've been prtecting Hendrik rhodes for a while now, wonder in we should help."
"defanetly sir, how about suggesting a peace keeping force or an allied expedition or something like that?"
"BRILLIANT! send the message with your idea."

TO: DAMIEN, LEADER OF AMF
FROM: ILLIORIAN GOV.
in anyway you require help just ask. At the moment there are 230 illiorian service persons protecting hendrik rhodes, the 5th and 7th fleets are on their way to help out.
ENCRYPTED
if you want maps... locations of anything just ask now
just un reiteration

[Confirmed]

***

OOC: FWS, a response to my first post would be apprecaited.

I've already talked to some of you and told you how we can RP you getting across the river, and how many men you'll need to lose to take each of my various cities... We can do it realistically (my way) because city fights are no cake walk... Or we can do what one guy (who I ignored) tried to do earlier by "poofing" his way across the river, destroying my entire Northern Army, and losing only 2 regiments.

My men have been taking amphetamines and steroids... They're awake, paranoid, and overly aggressive.

Bear in mind they'll come back down again, and be unable to fight...after 12 hours, your men'll be in a state of collapse.

OOC: How about we put the fighting on hold for a second so FWS can respond to Damien's offer.

I know, but what I was mainly against was the fact you would not let anyone cross the river without losing 1,000,000 Men at least. Ill go along with most of the city fight rules, so lets just RP it ok?

"We've been prtecting Hendrik rhodes for a while now, wonder in we should help."
"defanetly sir, how about suggesting a peace keeping force or an allied expedition or something like that?"
"BRILLIANT! send the message with your idea."

TO: DAMIEN, LEADER OF AMF
FROM: ILLIORIAN GOV.
in anyway you require help just ask. At the moment there are 230 illiorian service persons protecting hendrik rhodes, the 5th and 7th fleets are on their way to help out.
ENCRYPTED
if you want maps... locations of anything just ask now
just un reiteration

[Confirmed]

***

OOC: FWS, a response to my first post would be apprecaited.

OK then... shall our fleets meet up just outside APTO waters then and move in convoy?

The BMP's crossed the river under cover of darkness, and proceeded out and away from the Fascian defenses. Most of the soldiers' hearts were beating, with excitement, or just the fact they could be discovered at any moment.

OOC: How about we put the fighting on hold for a second so FWS can respond to Damien's offer.

OOC: Can you humor me Hogsweat, PLEASE?

Wait, ILl post a thread with a little bit of Information, alright? On myself I mean...

OOC: If it's in flood it's not likely a BMP could cross it. Nor could a GSP...I doubt a PMP could bridge it either. *CoughAISTSCough*

FWS, the only reason I was able to do that is that I was RPing the effect of an insanely heavy barrage on your troops. I didn't say you lost that army, I said a large advance was made, on a front of about 3 miles, and that they fell back.

OOC:

FWS: I will pause this RP until you are able to respond, ok?

By the way, what part of Africa are you?

Hes a bit of south africa. Alright, Ill do no more. Dontpissusoff, please go away if your not going to RP it.

OOC: AMF, FWS can't be reasoned with. I offered the same thing, and he threw it in my face.

Message to the AMF fleet:

Hello, we are the Sigma Octavus 1st Naval Bombardment Group. We are aware of your presence and wish to know if our shelling can continue.


(Yeah, it's not quite a fleet, but designed for bombardments. The ships are posted in one of the other FWS threads.)

OOC: If he RPs properly, I'll unignore him

IC; In preparation for a war, most of the IDF fleet is being sent over to the coast of FWS. They are well in Int. waters

3 Yorktown CVN (270 F-35}
3 Nimitz CVN (210 F-35)
1 Nimitz CVN (normal US loadout of planes)
4 Charles de Gaulle CVN (180 F-35)
7 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa BBG
19 Ticonderoga CG
10 Kirov CGN
48 Arleigh Burke DDG
25 Farragut DDG
12 Kidd DDG
16 OHP FFG
24 Grisha V FF
12 688i SSN
8 Seawolf SSN
18 Galaxy SSN
8 Ohio SSGN

OOC: THis seams like a large navy and it is. just run a budget calc on me, I have 20% budget to military. I have 35% of military budget going to navy. The navy is my militaries heart and soul.

AMF, FWS can't be reasoned with. I offered the same thing, and he threw it in my face.

OOC: If he wants to have a nation, he'll listen. If not.....

Alright, I just can't ignore this anymore.

Nations fighting against FWS, I know I said that my Small-Scale Hydrogen Demolition Technology (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147334) wasn't designed for war use, but it may be useful to you. Anyone who wants a few hundred or thousand for free, drop by the construction site of Delta Fortress - 24, 137, 82, and pick them up. I would be very interested in dropping them myself, but I'm more curious to see if other nations have a use for this. Note: This is only for nations against FWS. Drop these around his capital, and the buildings *Will* crumble for a few hundred feet. You're talking shockwaves that you can feel through walls that it's so powerful. Enjoy!

OOOC: Don't drop them. They'll blow your eardrums.

Alright, I just can't ignore this anymore.

Nations fighting against FWS, I know I said that my Small-Scale Hydrogen Demolition Technology (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147334) wasn't designed for war use, but it may be useful to you. Anyone who wants a few hundred or thousand for free, drop by the construction site of Delta Fortress - 24, 137, 82, and pick them up. I would be very interested in dropping them myself, but I'm more curious to see if other nations have a use for this. Note: This is only for nations against FWS. Drop these around his capital, and the buildings *Will* crumble for a few hundred feet. You're talking shockwaves that you can feel through walls that it's so powerful. Enjoy!

OOOC: Don't drop them. They'll blow your eardrums.

OOC: Uh huh.....sure...and risk total war against AMF and it's allies?

Fuhrer Land is sending in Defense experts to assist construction of fortifications and defense installations.

OOC: All I'm doing is giving away what are designed to be construction tools away for free. Right? I never said that they had to use them on FWS. I said that they could if they wanted to. Besides, it's pretty much a non-lethal demolition tool, so not many lives if any would be lost if they decided to drop them on FWS.

OOC2: Check my population AMF. I'm not a tiny nation, I just had internet troubles for three months.

OOC:

FWS: I will pause this RP until you are able to respond, ok?

By the way, what part of Africa are you?

Namibia (this part borders sith, who is in angola's spot). Also Rhodesia (now zimbabwe) and Botswana... We are a union of the three.

0582 ILLIOR TIME
"sir, the fleets are in position,"
"good, wait for fws to give the word then launch cruise missles and ac's at advancing land forces, but get recon on those areas first and the enemy's land supremacy"

OOC: If he RPs properly, I'll unignore him

IC; In preparation for a war, most of the IDF fleet is being sent over to the coast of FWS. They are well in Int. waters

3 Yorktown CVN (270 F-35}
3 Nimitz CVN (210 F-35)
1 Nimitz CVN (normal US loadout of planes)
4 Charles de Gaulle CVN (180 F-35)
7 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa BBG
19 Ticonderoga CG
10 Kirov CGN
48 Arleigh Burke DDG
25 Farragut DDG
12 Kidd DDG
16 OHP FFG
24 Grisha V FF
12 688i SSN
8 Seawolf SSN
18 Galaxy SSN
8 Ohio SSGN

OOC: THis seams like a large navy and it is. just run a budget calc on me, I have 20% budget to military. I have 35% of military budget going to navy. The navy is my militaries heart and soul.

You said you were ignoring me earlier... If you choose to not ignore me, post damage done to the 45-50 ships that my combat divers stuck charges to.

Stop avoiding AMF's request and reply.

Stop avoiding AMF's request and reply.
THANK YOU

Army (These figures reflect current armed forces)

10 Paracommando regiments (1,000 each)

4 armored Divisions (18,000 soldiers and 3,000 T-100 tanks each)

5 horse mounted Brigades (5,000 each)

4 airborne paratrooper divisions (18,000 each)

6 light infantry airmobile divisions (18,000 each)

4 mechanized infantry divisions (18,000 each)

2500 organized militia / reservists regiments (1,000 each) (Technically all males are in reserves or militia)

Knights Of the Teutonic Order (Strength Classified)

Secret Police (Strength Classified)

City police, and other Law Enforcement (100,000)

10 regiments of Fascist Grenadier Guards (2,500 each plus 250 super T-100-G tanks)

1 Division of Rhodes Youth (16-17 year olds). One of the most fanatical Divisions in the Fascian Defense Forces. Well trained youths who spent 9-12 months in Rhodes youth militia / army training. 18,000 soldiers, 500 AMX-10 Recon Vehicles. 500 AMX-10 APC Vehicles. 250 AMX-13 Recon Vehicles. 250 AMX VCI APC Vehicles


All but the police, grenadier guards, Rhodes Youth Division, and 800 reserve regiments are now in Northern Province.

500 Reserve Regiments / Youth units are in Central Province tunnels ready for OPERATION VIETNAM

Army (These figures reflect current armed forces)

10 Paracommando regiments (1,000 each)

4 armored Divisions (18,000 soldiers and 3,000 T-100 tanks each)

5 horse mounted Brigades (5,000 each)

4 airborne paratrooper divisions (18,000 each)

6 light infantry airmobile divisions (18,000 each)

4 mechanized infantry divisions (18,000 each)

2500 organized militia / reservists regiments (1,000 each) (Technically all males are in reserves or militia)

Knights Of the Teutonic Order (Strength Classified)

Secret Police (Strength Classified)

City police, and other Law Enforcement (100,000)

10 regiments of Fascist Grenadier Guards (2,500 each plus 250 super T-100-G tanks)

1 Division of Rhodes Youth (16-17 year olds). One of the most fanatical Divisions in the Fascian Defense Forces. Well trained youths who spent 9-12 months in Rhodes youth militia / army training. 18,000 soldiers, 500 AMX-10 Recon Vehicles. 500 AMX-10 APC Vehicles. 250 AMX-13 Recon Vehicles. 250 AMX VCI APC Vehicles


All but the police, grenadier guards, Rhodes Youth Division, and 800 reserve regiments are now in Northern Province.

500 Reserve Regiments / Youth units are in Central Province tunnels ready for OPERATION VIETNAM
your still ignoring AMF's and my offer

Can we speak via msn or yahoo?

Can we speak via msn or yahoo?
I've got AIM though tg's work too

Very well, in adherance to Automagfreaks 'request' we are postponing our amphibious assualt. We ask that all nations cease fire until FWS responds to Automagfreeks terms.

We also wish for Automagfreek to realise that he is potentialy taking under his wing an anti-semetic, racist and generally unpleasent little nation.

I am currently in discussion with the nations in question. Send TGs back and forth. We have to smooth out some of the minor details.

OOC: This is THE FWS war thread as to consolidate things abit. If it is not posted here, then it is not official. Enough with the dozens of scattered threads.

Due to massive flamewars already, I'll take the liberty of laying down some rules. Hopefully we can start things over and have a good RP.

1. NO puppet wank. This includes other people not involved creating nations solely to make 1 post.

2. NO flaming. Can we keep things civil?

3. NO unusually large amount of nuclear warheads. In fact, NO nukes period. All nukes do is kill RP's.

4. NO repeat threads. I.I is clogged enough the way it is.

If any of these rules are borken by anybody, I will have the mods deal with the offender. Now, can we play nice please?

IC:

It has come to my attention that there has been much fighting and controversy over a nation known as Fascist White States. It is unclear at this point with all the mud slinging exactly what FWS has done to create such anger towards them. I know it is not our place to stick our noses in other nation's business, but we believe very strongly in defending those that cannot defend themselves.

While we may not be fans of what FWS has done, we see the true aggressors in this scenario to be the ones that are attacking FWS. We've seen little resolve on anybody's behalf to try and talk FWS into an agreement, and for that you are to blame.

In order to help end this conflict, Automagfreek herby offer FWS total amnesty under our banner. FWS will become a vassal state under The Excessively Armed Empire and will recieve all it's perks and protection. BUT, for this service we ask that FWS not intentionally shit stir or abuse our protection, for if you do I will personally destroy every last person in FWS.

There is my offer for peace, now FWS, what say you?


http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-


I accept your terms... We will however have to work out the minor details..

AMF you got MSN?

I would like this known tha I will not give back the territory i have taken on my side of the river. This can be considdered as compensation for your warmongering FWS.

I would like this known tha I will not give back the territory i have taken on my side of the river. This can be considdered as compensation for your warmongering FWS.


I will not renounce legal claims to my territory North of the Victorian River unless you agree to renounce all claims to the River and South of the river. Furthermore, never will a bridge be allowed built on the river.

Also you must agree not to interfere in the internal affairs of FWS. Furthermore, I will not be accepting some "Versailles style War-Guilt"... This war was not my fault...

I will renounce all claims North of the Victoria River and sign the land over to you if you agree.

OOC: If he RPs properly, I'll unignore him

IC; In preparation for a war, most of the IDF fleet is being sent over to the coast of FWS. They are well in Int. waters

3 Yorktown CVN (270 F-35}
3 Nimitz CVN (210 F-35)
1 Nimitz CVN (normal US loadout of planes)
4 Charles de Gaulle CVN (180 F-35)
7 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa BBG
19 Ticonderoga CG
10 Kirov CGN
48 Arleigh Burke DDG
25 Farragut DDG
12 Kidd DDG
16 OHP FFG
24 Grisha V FF
12 688i SSN
8 Seawolf SSN
18 Galaxy SSN
8 Ohio SSGN

OOC: THis seams like a large navy and it is. just run a budget calc on me, I have 20% budget to military. I have 35% of military budget going to navy. The navy is my militaries heart and soul.

You said you were ignoring me earlier... If you choose to not ignore me, post damage done to the 45-50 ships that my combat divers stuck charges to.

OOC: I will not as my fleet had left by that time, there were no ships there. They returned to IDF home ports. They aren't even back in FWS area yet. I sent them out this morning and they are now clearing the straights of Gibraltar.

Also, your attack would be considered a godmod, if you launch an attack you would make your 1st post saying the subs were leaving. Then you give a chance for detection and with my numerous ASW platforms, few would get through.

Then the survivors go out and place the mines. That is how you do proper RP. Not just saying that they are already there without chance of counteractance. You RP in ways that don't allow and that is why most people have ignored you. However, if you change your RP style, you will find others more willing to Rp with you (including me)

OOC: If he RPs properly, I'll unignore him

IC; In preparation for a war, most of the IDF fleet is being sent over to the coast of FWS. They are well in Int. waters

3 Yorktown CVN (270 F-35}
3 Nimitz CVN (210 F-35)
1 Nimitz CVN (normal US loadout of planes)
4 Charles de Gaulle CVN (180 F-35)
7 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa BBG
19 Ticonderoga CG
10 Kirov CGN
48 Arleigh Burke DDG
25 Farragut DDG
12 Kidd DDG
16 OHP FFG
24 Grisha V FF
12 688i SSN
8 Seawolf SSN
18 Galaxy SSN
8 Ohio SSGN

OOC: THis seams like a large navy and it is. just run a budget calc on me, I have 20% budget to military. I have 35% of military budget going to navy. The navy is my militaries heart and soul.

You said you were ignoring me earlier... If you choose to not ignore me, post damage done to the 45-50 ships that my combat divers stuck charges to.

OOC: I will not as my fleet had left by that time, there were no ships there. They returned to IDF home ports. They aren't even back in FWS area yet. I sent them out this morning and they are now clearing the straights of Gibraltar.

Also, your attack would be considered a godmod, if you launch an attack you would make your 1st post saying the subs were leaving. Then you give a chance for detection and with my numerous ASW platforms, few would get through.

Then the survivors go out and place the mines. That is how you do proper RP. Not just saying that they are already there without chance of counteractance. You RP in ways that don't allow and that is why most people have ignored you. However, if you change your RP style, you will find others more willing to Rp with you (including me)

Oh well, your fleet can head home. War is over.

[code:1:6648b9ed46][color=green] TO: Unified Sith
We request ability to use your bases for our Air Force. We will use them to help you in wars with FWS. If you allow us to base our forces there, we will both benefit from the added security. I can have planes on Combat Air Patrols in case of air attacks incoming. I can even give you comms equipment for you and other allies in the conflict to ask my pilots for air strikes on certain targets. They will obey your ground commanders for those.

I want to base this for now:
FIGHTERS
188 F-22A Raptor (stealth)
512 F-35C JSF (stealth)
288 F-15C (air superiority fighter)
312 F-15E Strike Eagle
400 F-16C Falcon
256 F-14D Tomcat
256 F/A-18E Super Hornet
BOMBERS
56 F-111 Aardvark (supersonic strike bomber)
48 B-2A Spirit (stealth bomber)
56 B-52H (heavy bomber)
36 B-1B Lancer (supersonic bomber)
HELICOPTERS
144 AH-64D Apache longbow
36 MH-60 Nighthawk
73 RAH-66 Comanche
60 CH-60 Blackhawk
72 AH-1 Super Cobra
SUPPORT
18 E-3C Sentry AWACs
36 KC-135 Extender (tanker)
24 KC-110 (TANKER)
30 C-17 Globemaster III (supplier to ferry bombs and equipment)
48 C-130 Hercules (cargo)[/color][/code:1:6648b9ed46]

OOC: If he RPs properly, I'll unignore him

IC; In preparation for a war, most of the IDF fleet is being sent over to the coast of FWS. They are well in Int. waters

3 Yorktown CVN (270 F-35}
3 Nimitz CVN (210 F-35)
1 Nimitz CVN (normal US loadout of planes)
4 Charles de Gaulle CVN (180 F-35)
7 Arizona BBG
8 Iowa BBG
19 Ticonderoga CG
10 Kirov CGN
48 Arleigh Burke DDG
25 Farragut DDG
12 Kidd DDG
16 OHP FFG
24 Grisha V FF
12 688i SSN
8 Seawolf SSN
18 Galaxy SSN
8 Ohio SSGN

OOC: THis seams like a large navy and it is. just run a budget calc on me, I have 20% budget to military. I have 35% of military budget going to navy. The navy is my militaries heart and soul.

You said you were ignoring me earlier... If you choose to not ignore me, post damage done to the 45-50 ships that my combat divers stuck charges to.

OOC: I will not as my fleet had left by that time, there were no ships there. They returned to IDF home ports. They aren't even back in FWS area yet. I sent them out this morning and they are now clearing the straights of Gibraltar.

Also, your attack would be considered a godmod, if you launch an attack you would make your 1st post saying the subs were leaving. Then you give a chance for detection and with my numerous ASW platforms, few would get through.

Then the survivors go out and place the mines. That is how you do proper RP. Not just saying that they are already there without chance of counteractance. You RP in ways that don't allow and that is why most people have ignored you. However, if you change your RP style, you will find others more willing to Rp with you (including me)

Oh well, your fleet can head home. War is over.
They will remain at current time seeing that peace never lasts long here

IDF, ferrying in bombs by plane is about as efficient as flying in gravel for building roads. Unless they use the same bombs as you, you are not going to be able to get ordenance for your aircraft to use! With exceptions of the heavy bombers which can probably fly out with 1 load.

IDF, ferrying in bombs by plane is about as efficient as flying in gravel for building roads. Unless they use the same bombs as you, you are not going to be able to get ordenance for your aircraft to use! With exceptions of the heavy bombers which can probably fly out with 1 load.

Oh ****. You're right. And I learned that lesson from "Bear and the dragon" too. I will have some with planes, but I guess I can use ships too and will do that since U SIth isn't too far away.

IDF, ferrying in bombs by plane is about as efficient as flying in gravel for building roads. Unless they use the same bombs as you, you are not going to be able to get ordenance for your aircraft to use! With exceptions of the heavy bombers which can probably fly out with 1 load.

Oh ****. You're right. And I learned that lesson from "Bear and the dragon" too. I will have some with planes, but I guess I can use ships too and will do that since U SIth isn't too far away.

OOC: Yeah damn good book that one. Taught me about using JSOW's :). Just tellin ya so no GODMOD allegations get thrown about :)

Hmm... how about FWS Lets us build bridges across, because if he does some mad thing we will be able to stop him easier.

Hmm... how about FWS Lets us build bridges across, because if he does some mad thing we will be able to stop him easier.

Or you'll be able to invade him more easily.

Yeah, but .. but... But still... Yeah, shutup *_*

Hmm... how about FWS Lets us build bridges across, because if he does some mad thing we will be able to stop him easier.


There will not be a single bridge allowed on the river.

im deploying my space marines 500 dropships loaded with space marines land in f.w.s terrotery

Hmm... how about FWS Lets us build bridges across, because if he does some mad thing we will be able to stop him easier.

Or you'll be able to invade him more easily.
that actually goes both ways

im deploying my space marines 500 dropships loaded with space marines land in f.w.s terrotery


HUH?? Dropships.... Sorry... No future crap, whether to help or hurt me... I don't want future stuff.

DMZ ZONE PROPOSAL!!!!


The former "1 Mile Zone", the zone 1 Mile Wide north of the Victoria River, land that FWS used to own but has now passed to Sith. This Zone runs along the river the entire length down to mozambique... All of the Zone on the Sith border has been passed to Sith.


I am proposing that the Zone be made a DMZ... No armed forces will be allowed within 1 Mile North of the Victoria River...

What say you all.

we are here to bloster ure shaterered defences with our aa pulse cannons known as harbinger

we are here to bloster ure shaterered defences with our aa pulse cannons known as harbinger


That's okay. I don't believe in future tech, even to help me. I am a modern nation. Send modern if you want. But no future. Also the war is over, no real need for more nations to be involved... Now is the time for demobilization.

I would suggest a larger DMZ. Artillary and mortars can easily fire across the river with that.

I would suggest a larger DMZ. Artillary and mortars can easily fire across the river with that.

Most small arms, mortars etc will be prohibited from firing. Only the larger stuff like 155s would work.


If you want, extend the DMZ 10-20 miles North of Victoria River.

I would suggest a larger DMZ. Artillary and mortars can easily fire across the river with that.

Most small arms, mortars etc will be prohibited from firing. Only the larger stuff like 155s would work.


If you want, extend the DMZ 10-20 miles North of Victoria River.

I think that would be a good idea, but that's not for me to decide, It's up to you and U Sith

No. Forces will be removed in time. when i see you will not make threats towards my nation. I will reduce the forces along the river.

OOC: could not be assed relogging in as Unified sith

I will continue to fortify my side of the river and build more bunkers, trenches, anit-tank ditches, dragons teeth, etc.

This is just to guarantee my nation remains safe.

Already we have about 20,000 bunkers along my side of river.



Edit: Also, we'll continue to lay millions of land mines on our side of the river.

is ok if i send my 43 mechanized repair devison to asist u in rebuilding

News from the FNN.

Fascian Defense Forces in all provinces other than Northern Province are demobilizing and standing down.

The Northern Army under Field Marshal Hans Von Model is still in position pending the de-escalation of hostilities and demobilization of forces one both sides.


Colonel Leon Degrelle III a regiment commander in the 1st Rhodes Youth Elite Division on the outskirts of Rhodes City was quoted as saying, "Why did the fighting end, we were going to win. The youth were ready to die for the Emperor."

Propaganda Minister Joseph Cannon spoke to the nation via FNN, he said "The time for peace is now. Our great emperor Hendrik Rhodes has spared the enemy soldiers from the millions of losses they would have incurred had they decided to keep attempting to cross the Victoria River. Not to mention the trouble they'd have in our cities, and then crossing the Rhodes River north of Rhodes City."


Hendrik Rhodes speaking via the FNN stated, "Our nation has suffered greatly, although I would like to commend our armed forces for their galant efforts in the face of overwhelming odds. They truly are soldiers that any commander would be proud to call his own. But now peace is the order of the day."


Several citizens in Alexander City were asked what they thought of the peace. One of them replied, "We are just glad the suffering has ended."

one thing u start firing on our forces and the space marines ocupy ure nation my main forces are in op stand by

sephrioth forces will also put up a no fly zone over the dmz witch will be patrolled by the z wing fighter

PEACE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!!!

Automagfreek and Fascist White States have come to terms via private communications, and I am now announcing that the war is over. FWS has agreed to AMF terms and is willing to abide by them. I now urge all aggressors to return to their homelands, for this conflict is now over.

I wish FWS the best of luck in rebuilding their credability, and I offer 50 billion to the reconstruction of their lands.


http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

sephrioth forces will also put up a no fly zone over the dmz witch will be patrolled by the z wing fighter
sorry modern nations only.

We will also offer money to help rebuild our shattered fascist bretherin. Specifically, 40 billion USD.

You have won peace only on the wish of the great lord Dreadfire. You would do to heed his terms. The AMF military forces are immensely powerful.

FWS is requesting 400 billion dollars to help rebuild the Fascian Air Force.


Also FWS is requesting foreign firms help rebuild:

Alexander City (80% in ruins) in Northern Province

Gustavus City (25% in ruins) in White Western Province

Wilhelm City (30% in ruins) in Central Province

Rhodes City (10% in ruins) in Rhodes Province

Philip City (5% in ruins) in Southern Province

Forrest City (20% in ruins) in Eastern Province

Salisbury (10% in ruins) in Eastern Province

20,000 Commercial farms throughout the nation are in ruins or seriously damaged and will need to be rebuilt and have new soil brought in. This will no seriously affect domestic food production. Why? Because FWS has 300,000 commercial farms each a minimum of 5,000 acres. We are a major food exporter. Our food exports will be down for a while though.


FWS Defense Forces Arms Production in Rhodes and Alexander Cities will need to have major repairs down.

Rhodes Steel Works Companies in Alexander, Rhodes, Gustavus,Wilhelm, and Philip Cities will need major repairs.

Rhodes Chemical Works in Alexander, Wilhelm, and Rhodes Cities will need major repairs.

4 FWS Air Force bases in Central Province
2 FWS Air Force bases in Rhodes Province
4 FWS Air Force bases in Northern Province
2 FWS Air Force bases in White Western Province
3 FWS Air Force bases in Southern Province
2 FWS Air Force bases in Eastern Province
Will require major repairs to runways, hangars, etc.

80 early warning radar sites in Northern Province, Central Province, White Western Province, and Southern Province will need rebuilding or major repairs.

1 million bodies of civilians throughout FWS will need to be buried.


12 Bridges over the Rhodes River will need to be rebuilt. (The Rhodes river runs from North of West Victoria, passes Gustavus City to the South, passes Wilhelm City to the North, passes Rhodes City to the North, and then hits the border with South Africa.)


At least 10 tons of unexploded ordinance will need to dealt with in Northern Province.

no fly zone erected and heavily petrolled by f 18s any un arthaoutzied craft will be shot down

we will help on cive buildings only we are a peacekeeping force

no fly zone erected and heavily petrolled by f 18s any un arthaoutzied craft will be shot down
wait for both sides to approve, you may find yourself shot at by both sides

Fascian Defense Forces are turning over all of the 1,000 Nuclear Tipped Artillery shells, along with about 100 nuclear warheads that were given to FWS by foreign nations.

FWS is also turning over 10 Crusader Class cones (each cone contains 9 warheads).

As soon as the FWS Crusader Class SSBN makes it back to South Victoria, the missiles will be unloaded, and the warheads all turned over to foreign nations for dismantling.


All warheads are to be turned over for dismantling.

The missiles (once the warheads are given up) will be stored at "Site 2" a large bunker complex about 800 feet below the 1st Paracommand regiment base.

Fascian Defense Forces are turning over all of the 1,000 Nuclear Tipped Artillery shells, along with about 100 nuclear warheads that were given to FWS by foreign nations.

FWS is also turning over 10 Crusader Class cones (each cone contains 9 warheads).

As soon as the FWS Crusader Class SSBN makes it back to South Victoria, the missiles will be unloaded, and the warheads all turned over to foreign nations for dismantling.


All warheads are to be turned over for dismantling.

The missiles (once the warheads are given up) will be stored at "Site 2" a large bunker complex about 800 feet below the 1st Paracommand regiment base.
you can convert your SSBN to an SSGN (cruise missile carrier) just like the US Navy did to the first 4 Ohio SSBNs

do u agre fws about our no fly zone

no fly zone erected and heavily petrolled by f 18s any un arthaoutzied craft will be shot down


What exactly is this "No fly zone" how far does it extend?

I'm willing not to fly any fixed wing aircraft within 10 miles of the Victoria River. I will still need to fly in helicopters to move paracommando regiments out and to move other helicopter units out (all 6 of the light infantry divisions are helicopter borne units).

Current FWS Air Force

Recent purchases and gifts of F-22s, F-16s, and MiG-29s have helped to boost those numbers.

Air force (these numbers are 1-2 month goal figures)

1000 Mi-17 (have 300)
500 Apache attack helicopters
1000 Mi-24 Hinds (have 200)
1000 “Elephant” Transport Craft (have 500)
1000 MiG-29 (have 500)
1000 MiG-31 (have 200)
1000 MiG-21s (have 1000) (had more but used many in Kamikaze attacks)
1000 MiG-15s (have 1000) (had more but used many in Kamikaze attacks)
500 F-14
500 F-15
500 F-16 (have 350)
500 F22s (have 118)
500 Mirage 2000
500 Joint Strike Fighter
500 EuroFighter
5500 various transports (C-130s, etc) (current numbers unknown due to recent war damage)

Fascian Defense Forces are turning over all of the 1,000 Nuclear Tipped Artillery shells, along with about 100 nuclear warheads that were given to FWS by foreign nations.

FWS is also turning over 10 Crusader Class cones (each cone contains 9 warheads).

As soon as the FWS Crusader Class SSBN makes it back to South Victoria, the missiles will be unloaded, and the warheads all turned over to foreign nations for dismantling.


All warheads are to be turned over for dismantling.

The missiles (once the warheads are given up) will be stored at "Site 2" a large bunker complex about 800 feet below the 1st Paracommand regiment base.
you can convert your SSBN to an SSGN (cruise missile carrier) just like the US Navy did to the first 4 Ohio SSBNs

Very well, it is underway.

it extends all over the dmz ure choppers arahtourzired if i see 0ne fighter plane or bomber expect repcusions

if i can the 43 mecanzied repair divsion are on way

it extends all over the dmz ure choppers arahtourzired if i see 0ne fighter plane or bomber expect repcusions
where will they be based off of? The F-18s that is

or if fws allows it we will take over 10 of his air feilds

or if fws allows it we will take over 10 of his air feilds


No, my airbases will be for my air force... You may use them for emergency landings and refueling though.

You don't need a patroled No Fly Zone. The US had one in Iraq to protect teh Kurds, who had no weps to fight planes. Both sides have ample Air defense and don't need a 3rd party there

You don't need a patroled No Fly Zone. The US had one in Iraq to protect teh Kurds, who had no weps to fight planes. Both sides have ample Air defense and don't need a 3rd party there

You don't need a patroled No Fly Zone. The US had one in Iraq to protect teh Kurds, who had no weps to fight planes. Both sides have ample Air defense and don't need a 3rd party there

You don't need a patroled No Fly Zone. The US had one in Iraq to protect teh Kurds, who had no weps to fight planes. Both sides have ample Air defense and don't need a 3rd party there

is it ok if we build some in ure nation then fws we will pay u 600 billiom us.d for the land

is it ok if we build some in ure nation then fws we will pay u 600 billiom us.d for the land

600 billion US dollars????

Yes, you may build 3 air bases, All must be in Central Province though. Deal?


Send the money right away...

I am going to use every penny to rebuild the FWS Air Force...

Joy, Joy, Joy...

they need to be near the dmz for fast response the money is for ten bases

we will cease seven others near the dmz if we have to

we will cease seven others near the dmz if we have to


First of all, no offense, but I am having a massively difficult time understanding you because of the bad grammar, spelling, usage. For once, I am not pointing out bad spelling to offend or put down. But rather for necessity of communication.

Secondly, any attempt to seize FWS property will be considered an act of war...

Thirdly, you are not going to need 10 bases because that would imply a massive amount of aircraft in FWS. You are authorized to construct 3 airbases in Central Province and 2 in Northern Province... Not 1 base more... Also each base will be limited to 100 fixed wing aircraft.

Lastly, the air bases may be allowed to be permanent depending on our future diplomatic relations.

we will cease seven others near the dmz if we have to


It has come to my attention that your nation is not highly regarded and that you are largely ignored... Thus I will do the same to you... As you are a largely future tech nation anyway... I don't take future tech, whether it helps or hurts me... I don't want it.

“Sir, it appears that FWS and Sith reached a peace deal,” said the Secretary of War.

“This can't be,” said the President of the rogue nation. “We need that war to divert attention from our drug smuggling operations and weapon smuggling.”

“I know sir,” said the Sec. War. “Now we will have all those nations damn fleets after our smuggler ships.”

“I want you to conduct operations to reheat this war. This war is polarizing for everyone. It draws in other nations and draws away attention from our smuggling,” said the President.

“Yes sir," was the reply.

later

The Generals had been alerted. Mercenaries had bases in Madagascar and planned on using them.

144 F-117A's were to be sent up and attack the nations on both sides of the river. They would target cities and try to kill civilians thus angering the governments of both nations to blame eachother.

12 B-2As would bomb bases to give the nations the impression these were strikes to weaken defenses.

10 Virginia class attack subs would launch a total of 60 missiles at each of the nation.

The plan went into effect at 1500. The planes took off from Madagascar.

72 of the F-117s, 6 of the B-2s, would attack Unified Sith 3 NS hours after takeoff. They would target both cities, civilian areas, and military bases. Air bases were primary targets among bases. This would simulate a strike by FWS.

Then 1.5 NS hours later, the other F-117s and B-2s would attack Rhodes City to kill civilians and simulate a counter strike by Sith. They would also strike airbases, other cities, and other military bases. Some of the B-2s would napalm cities to cause an emotional effect among FWS.

Right after this attack is recorded, 5 of the subs will launch a total of 60 cruise missiles at Sith. After those are detected, 60 missiles will be launched at FWS. The plan is by then there will be a war between the two nation.

OOC: The planes take off right as this is being posted.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s



Added: Hendrik Rhodes to his secretary "Get me the Sithian President on the phone immediately, it looks like somebody is trying to spark a war."

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.

OOC: you won't detect this group anyways. The 1st group will hit Sith without going through your air space or radar zone before even heading to you so let the 1st group strike Sith before anything else happens.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

OOC: How do spies and informants help in the case of this? You never Rped placement of spies in my gov. WHo are your allies? I have a feeling that they don't exist. Besides,these 1st planes are headed for Sith not you. Let them find their targets so we can have a RP.

You are giving me the impression that you are a godmodder. You can't know everything going on

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

OOC: How do spies and informants help in the case of this? You never Rped placement of spies in my gov. WHo are your allies? I have a feeling that they don't exist. Besides,these 1st planes are headed for Sith not you. Let them find their targets so we can have a RP.

You are giving me the impression that you are a godmodder. You can't know everything going on


Iraqi radar was garbage. Sithian radar is great. FWS radar is rather good. South African radar is great. Mozambiquean radar is probably rather good also.

The point is nothing is radar invisible, it is covered up somewhat... Never totally.

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

OOC: How do spies and informants help in the case of this? You never Rped placement of spies in my gov. WHo are your allies? I have a feeling that they don't exist. Besides,these 1st planes are headed for Sith not you. Let them find their targets so we can have a RP.

You are giving me the impression that you are a godmodder. You can't know everything going on


Iraqi radar was garbage. Sithian radar is great. FWS radar is rather good. South African radar is great. Mozambiquean radar is probably rather good also.

The point is nothing is radar invisible, it is covered up somewhat... Never totally.

But invisible enough not to grab attention.

Show me RP evidence that you are allied with the other nations. My routing doesn't even take me over those nations (except Sith) since I took northern routing.

The planes have now entered Sith airspace and the 1st bombs will hit in 10 minutes

Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

OOC: How do spies and informants help in the case of this? You never Rped placement of spies in my gov. WHo are your allies? I have a feeling that they don't exist. Besides,these 1st planes are headed for Sith not you. Let them find their targets so we can have a RP.

You are giving me the impression that you are a godmodder. You can't know everything going on


Iraqi radar was garbage. Sithian radar is great. FWS radar is rather good. South African radar is great. Mozambiquean radar is probably rather good also.

The point is nothing is radar invisible, it is covered up somewhat... Never totally.

But invisible enough not to grab attention.

Show me RP evidence that you are allied with the other nations. My routing doesn't even take me over those nations (except Sith) since I took northern routing.

The planes have now entered Sith airspace and the 1st bombs will hit in 10 minutes


Well they'd be seen by observatories, amateur telescope types etc... The alarm would be raised.

OOC: The serbs used cell phone towers to pinpoint a stealth fighter's location once, IIRC.

Anyway, total stealth is impossible for modern tech. The best one can do is try to limit the size of the radar signature. If you get close enough to a reasonably good radar, you will get detected.

[quote:e9ddfb2d2a="Fascist White States"]Early Warning radar in Mozambique picked up massive aircraft movements towards the coast of Africa... They quickly phoned their president who phoned Hendrik Rhodes. "Yes, we're picking them up also."

Hendrik Rhodes to Air Force bases 1-4 "Scramble your planes."

Half of all FWS Fixed Wing Attack craft were scrambled.


250 MiG-29

100 MiG-31

500 MiG-21s

500 MiG-15s

170 F-16

59 F-22s

they are stealth, how do you detect them?

Early Warning radar... Satellites, take your pick. That many planes will still make some small radar registry.

DId the Iraqis who had top Radars detect the stealths? No! then how did your radar detect what no modern radar can?

How do satelites detect the planes when you never RPed launching a satelite to watch your own nation? You have to RP that since it is a space move.


Allies provide constant satellite intel to FWS.

what allies? And also tell me one instance where a nation used satelites to detect planes?

Besides, read my previous post, they are no where near you at this time and not even headed for you or in your radar range

Nobody in any part of Southern Africa sneezes without FWS knowing about it. We haves spies, informants, allies, etc, in place everywhere.

OOC: How do spies and informants help in the case of this? You never Rped placement of spies in my gov. WHo are your allies? I have a feeling that they don't exist. Besides,these 1st planes are headed for Sith not you. Let them find their targets so we can have a RP.

You are giving me the impression that you are a godmodder. You can't know everything going on


Iraqi radar was garbage. Sithian radar is great. FWS radar is rather good. South African radar is great. Mozambiquean radar is probably rather good also.

The point is nothing is radar invisible, it is covered up somewhat... Never totally.

But invisible enough not to grab attention.

Show me RP evidence that you are allied with the other nations. My routing doesn't even take me over those nations (except Sith) since I took northern routing.

The planes have now entered Sith airspace and the 1st bombs will hit in 10 minutes


Well they'd be seen by observatories, amateur telescope types etc... The alarm would be raised.[/quote:e9ddfb2d2a]
LMAO! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Godmodd
Tell me one instance where that has been used. remember these planes blend in with the night

OOC: The serbs used cell phone towers to pinpoint a stealth fighter's location once, IIRC.

Anyway, total stealth is impossible for modern tech. The best one can do is try to limit the size of the radar signature. If you get close enough to a reasonably good radar, you will get detected.

my routing is north to avoid most radar

LEAD BOMBER:

"We are over target of Sith's capital," said the navigator.

"Roger we are clear for drop," said the pilot
The B-2A dropped 8 mk-84 2,000 lb bombs on civilians areas. Other bombers did the same and struck at bases and runways

OOC: The serbs used cell phone towers to pinpoint a stealth fighter's location once, IIRC.

Anyway, total stealth is impossible for modern tech. The best one can do is try to limit the size of the radar signature. If you get close enough to a reasonably good radar, you will get detected.

my routing is north to avoid most radar


When the planes come in from the north, he'll know it wasn't me... My planes aren't advanced enough to pull of such a sneak attack without raising radar. I have no bombers in my air force either... Only fighters, interceptors, and multirole fighters

OOC: The serbs used cell phone towers to pinpoint a stealth fighter's location once, IIRC.

Anyway, total stealth is impossible for modern tech. The best one can do is try to limit the size of the radar signature. If you get close enough to a reasonably good radar, you will get detected.

my routing is north to avoid most radar


When the planes come in from the north, he'll know it wasn't me... My planes aren't advanced enough to pull of such a sneak attack without raising radar. I have no bombers in my air force either... Only fighters, interceptors, and multirole fighters

The whole idea of using B-2s and F-117s is that he won't know where they came from.

they aren't coming directly from the north, they are taking a northern routing, coming south and then entering Sith from the EAst

Off the coast of FWS. Onboard the RNS Athena, Fleet Flagship

ComOfficer: "Admiral, we are receiving an encripted communication from Naval Command"

Admiral Charters: "Put it through, Lieutenant"

ComOfficer: "Aye Ma'am"

[code:1:c471aa0d27]Attention: Fleet Admiral Charters, commander of the Fourth Fleet stationed of the coast of Facist White States. By order of the President of Rotovia you are ordered to stand down and assume an obxervatory position only. Do not engage any forces unless engaged first. Confirmation: Alpha-Theta-Pye. Naval Command Out[/code:1:c471aa0d27]

Hearing of the bombing against Sith, Hendrik Rhodes was quite alarmed... "My God, they'll think we did it... Hurry, get me the Sithian President on the phone, right now."

OOC: But you are going over Unified Sith, who has just been fighting a war with FWS. His radar coverage is likely to be very heavy. And that's assuming he doesn't have any exotic systems like Thermal imaging, Lidar, or other stuff like that.

Chances are that you are not going to get through without being detected. Besides, AMF is likely watching the two nations with spysats.

Hearing of the bombing against Sith, Hendrik Rhodes was quite alarmed... "My God, they'll think we did it... Hurry, get me the Sithian President on the phone, right now."

The 2nd group, the one going after FWS, is going to enter FWS from Sith air space. The idea is to create the illusion of counter attack. Northern cities will be targeted and possibly the capital, if the planes get close enough.

With FWS on higher alert I will say only 1/2 of the planes get to their targets

Hearing of the bombing against Sith, Hendrik Rhodes was quite alarmed... "My God, they'll think we did it... Hurry, get me the Sithian President on the phone, right now."

The 2nd group, the one going after FWS, is going to enter FWS from Sith air space. The idea is to create the illusion of counter attack. Northern cities will be targeted and possibly the capital, if the planes get close enough.

With FWS on higher alert I will say only 1/2 of the planes get to their targets


I have 15,000 Patriots, 5,000 SAMS... Etc... And I can scramble my entire airforce... In fact that is what I did the second I heard Sith was hit... I knew somebody was trying to provoke a war.

when the leaders saw that this wasn't going well, the subs launched early to improve the counter attack, civilians were targeted in FWS to make a psycological effect

I recommend we wait for sith to come and make his statement before we get far into this

when the leaders saw that this wasn't going well, the subs launched early to improve the counter attack, civilians were targeted in FWS to make a psycological effect


THE FWS NAVY will intercept and destroy the submarines before they get away. Also the FWS Air Force will attack some submarines.

Chances are that you are not going to get through without being detected. Besides, AMF is likely watching the two nations with spysats.

OOC: Exactly.

IC:

There will not be any DMZ's or No-Fly Zones in Fascist White States. FWS is under direct authority of The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek and will conduct itself accordingly. Therefore, FWS will recieve the FULL protection of Automagfreek and His Lordship's Sentinels, and the first person that makes any aggressive moves towards FWS will pay the dearest costs.

FWS has been instructed as to what is and isn't acceptable conduct, and we trust that their word is true. Our fleets (since AMF is located in the mid-Atlantic) have arrived in FWS territorial waters and the Sentinels stand ready to defend FWS if need be. Do not force our hand.


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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires


OOC: Mercenaries1, I am watching every inch of FWS with my satellites, which are far superior to yours or anyone else's that is participating in this war.

the missiles were already launched and fly at low altitudes (thats what TLAMs do). No one knows there are subs at this point. The missiles are waypoint guided and are suppose to enter from Sith

Chances are that you are not going to get through without being detected. Besides, AMF is likely watching the two nations with spysats.

OOC: Exactly.

IC:

There will not be any DMZ's or No-Fly Zones in Fascist White States. FWS is under direct authority of The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek and will conduct itself accordingly. Therefore, FWS will recieve the FULL protection of Automagfreek and His Lordship's Sentinels, and the first person that makes any aggressive moves towards FWS will pay the dearest costs.

FWS has been instructed as to what is and isn't acceptable conduct, and we trust that their word is true. Our fleets (since AMF is located in the mid-Atlantic) have arrived in FWS territorial waters and the Sentinels stand ready to defend FWS if need be. Do not force our hand.


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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires


OOC: Mercenaries1, I am watching every inch of FWS with my satellites, which are far superior to yours or anyone else's that is participating in this war.
explain how it is possible to have enough assets and people to monitor 2 nations (about 1/3 of Africa) every inch of it all the time live and not miss anything GODMODD!

AMF is a massive nation that almost has more money than god. He also has many allies who would likely let him borrow spysats for something like this.

Edit: He has 2 billion+ people

explain how it is possible to have enough assets and people to monitor 2 nations (about 1/3 of Africa) every inch of it all the time live and not miss anything GODMODD!

OOC: Obviously you missed the first few pages where my APTO allies pledged their support. You do know that intel is apart of support, right?

And if you're going to accuse me of godmodding at least spell it right. :roll:

IDF reports some losses of planes stationed at Sith.

We lost 16 F-22A (with 11 pilots and 56 grounds crew)
6 B-52H (with 27 crew and 145 ground crew)
15 Apaches (with 29 crew and 112 ground crew)

IDF is demanding an immediate investigation and called for FWS to prover her innocence or face our wrath

Comm Center: *Falls over in an anime-style comical way, the whole lot of them, all at once*

Admiral: Is the war going on again!?

Comm: *Lay there with a swirly look in their eyes*

Admiral: GET UP!!!

Comm: *Leap up and pretend nothing happened* Aye sir, the way is on again.

Admiral: Send all recon satelites back to their original positions, we'll let them handle it. As long as they don't get within the range of Kamata.

AMF is a massive nation that almost has more money than god.

OOC: Especially since I purchased The Resi Corporation.

IDF is demanding an immediate investigation and called for FWS to prover her innocence or face our wrath



Neither AMF or FWS forces have been engaged. We are convinced that there is a 3rd party meddling in this.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

IDF is demanding an immediate investigation and called for FWS to prover her innocence or face our wrath



Neither AMF or FWS forces have been engaged. We are convinced that there is a 3rd party meddling in this.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

He does sound like one

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

Even if that was so, FWS and AMF are not responsible for the actions of other nations, now are we? If someone is attacking assets of another nation, they are doing it on their own accord.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
In that case they wouldn't be responsible, but we still need FWS to tell us anything he knows about this guy so we can attack him

IDF is demanding an immediate investigation and called for FWS to prover her innocence or face our wrath



Neither AMF or FWS forces have been engaged. We are convinced that there is a 3rd party meddling in this.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

He does sound like one


Don't start with the claims that my allies are behind every mailbox and that they're lurking in all the shadows... You are starting to sound paranoid.

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

He does sound like one


My good man, what are you getting at? In case you live in a cave and have missed the recent events, FWS became a vassal state of AMF. Therefore they are APART of The Excessively Armed Empire.

Is our government a dictatorship? Yes. does that matter? No.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

IDF is demanding an immediate investigation and called for FWS to prover her innocence or face our wrath



Neither AMF or FWS forces have been engaged. We are convinced that there is a 3rd party meddling in this.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

He does sound like one


Don't start with the claims that my allies are behind every mailbox and that they're lurking in all the shadows... You are starting to sound paranoid.
Even if it is one of your allies, you won't be held responsible by me, but they will be

Are you sure this isn't one of FWS's facist allies

He does sound like one


My good man, what are you getting at? In case you live in a cave and have missed the recent events, FWS became a vassal state of AMF. Therefore they are APART of The Excessively Armed Empire.

Is our government a dictatorship? Yes. does that matter? No.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
I didn't know that

I didn't know that

Then my claim that you live in a cave stands.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

I didn't know that

Then my claim that you live in a cave stands.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

It must. Send my regards to Mr R Lee Ermey

And tell that lazy SOB to answer my Mail Call letters

And tell that lazy SOB to answer my Mail Call letters

OOC: Can we keep things IC please? Thanks.

And tell that lazy SOB to answer my Mail Call letters

OOC: Can we keep things IC please? Thanks.
sorry I couldn't resist when I saw your picture you posted for your minister

And tell that lazy SOB to answer my Mail Call letters



What do you want to know about weaponry?

And tell that lazy SOB to answer my Mail Call letters



What do you want to know about weaponry?

I never actually sent one to him, but I do watch his show. I just made that post for laughs

<AMF News Update>

We have recieved word from the Ministry of Defense that AMF warships and subs are aggressively ousting any and all remaining combatants from FWS territorial waters. We recieved a short breifing from Lord Dreadfire's personal servant.

Effective immediatly, if ANY unauthorized vessels are found inside of Fascist White State's waters they will be sunk regardless of their origin. Lord Dreadfire will not allow any vessles to move from territorial waters to FWS waters, save for merchant ships. Those ships will be inspected from floor to ceiling, and if any sensitive items are found, the ship's crew will be slaughtered and the vessel sunk.

This warning will not be issued again.

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The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires

FNN Reports:


FWS Defense Forces have released 75,000 Sithian "peace keepers" who were captured by FWS guerillas during the last war between FWS and SITH (The Second War of Fascian Independence). These "peace keepers" were set to be released much earlier but after the outbreak of the Third War of Fascian Independence, they had to be held until that war ended.

Since hostilities have ended, all Sithian "peace keepers" who were captured have been boarding trucks and are being sent north to the River Victoria. There, they will board either helicopters or boats to be taken to the other side. Viewers might recall that the "peace keepers" were captured attempting to smash Fascian Freedom Fighters... They were split into about 2-3 main groups and surrounded by hundreds of thousands of Ex-Fascian Soldiers. "Peace keepers" had ordered the government and army disbanded, but the soldiers just became guerillas then.

The return of POWs is expected to be completed in several days.

OOC- Damn... I wasn't on to participate at all in this... Anyways...


Seeing that AMF has control over the situation and if they don't require ARSB assistance (we were working with FWS), we will pull back our fleet and head for home port. We also wonder if our small 600-man force (with assorted equipment and aircraft), that had remained after the bulk of our main force had left, could stay to monitor ARSB assets in the country. If not, they will leave with the fleet.

We also offer to purchase back our VEPR systems from FWS. If not, that is still fine but we do not think that FWS should probably ever need them now.

FWS Defense Forces have begun to clean up the scars of war... All along the southern side of the Victorian River, knocked at tanks, burning trucks, piles of corpses...

It is estimated that 1,000 T-101 tanks were destroyed... (I'm calling them T-101 since T-100 has been taken by somebody else and he just brought it to my attention).

It is estimated that 340,000 Fascian soldiers were killed in the conflict.

It is estimated that 1,000,000 civilians were killed as heavy air attacks were conducted against major FWS civilian population centers.

It is estimated that enemy action destroyed or damaged 800 FWS fighters.

Furthermore, estimates for the amount of FWS fighters that flew kamikaze style attacks into enemy navies is placed somewhere around 200.

OOC- Damn... I wasn't on to participate at all in this... Anyways...


Seeing that AMF has control over the situation and if they don't require ARSB assistance (we were working with FWS), we will pull back our fleet and head for home port. We also wonder if our small 600-man force (with assorted equipment and aircraft), that had remained after the bulk of our main force had left, could stay to monitor ARSB assets in the country. If not, they will leave with the fleet.

We also offer to purchase back our VEPR systems from FWS. If not, that is still fine but we do not think that FWS should probably ever need them now.


We'll keep them... We like nice weapons and such. We're going to be doing lots of friendly wargaming inside FWS so we can have soldiers well-trained and ready to help in the event allies demand a deployment.

Very well. If you ever need anything else, feel free to contact us.

"Pulling out... ah shit I didb't even get to let a round off"
The young soldier said.
"Doesnt matter, we'll get em sometime. Then we'll smash em good!"

The withdrawal of Army Group C is taking place.

Momanguise asks for a period of one RL day to completely clear her forces from the Fascist White States border.

ooc: FWS, you still need to post casulties for your airial attack against my fleet, bearing in mind that all planes were shot down.

The withdrawal of Army Group C is taking place.

Momanguise asks for a period of one RL day to completely clear her forces from the Fascist White States border.

ooc: FWS, you still need to post casulties for your airial attack against my fleet, bearing in mind that all planes were shot down.


If they're all shot down then I don't need to post anything. My work is done :)

just a reminder... the illiorian 5th and 7th fleets are with AMF ships and those 2 fleets are the biggest of illior's fleets.
each fleet has:
3 modified nimitz called Illian class
each one holds 150 fighters
2 helo carriers
each one takes 100 KL-55s
3 seawolf subs
4 los angeles or ohio subs
3 Iowa class battle ships
5 AEGIS destroyers
10 Oliver Hazard Perry frigates