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Official Statement of the Camewotian Government

We are in Civil War with Fascists, they control only a small part of our country and we are currently driving them out, thats why the follwing resolution has been passed:
The National Army is being split in 3 Groups:
Group 1 will fight together with the other forces trying to kill the CF (Camewotian Fascists)
Group 2 will invade other Fascist countrys.
Group 3 will stay on international alert, any calls by allys will be responded by them.
As the nation grows these 3 groups will grow also, the government may decide to sometimes put troops from Group 1 to Group 3 depending on the current situation. From now on today our goal will be to kill al Fascists.
We hereby call our allys to fight with us - if you want - and destroy these scums of the earth!

OOC: Can I be the first to point out that most fascist nations have militaries with more people in them then then you would have in your population?

Please, go and attack Iesus Christi. He hates all minorities, and shoots them.

OOC: Can I be the first to point out that most fascist nations have militaries with more people in them then then you would have in your population?

Please, go and attack Iesus Christi. He hates all minorities, and shoots them.

OOC: I know that, thats why we will only concentrate on New Fascist nations so that the evil can be destroyed before it grows! For any large nations we call on our allys!

IC:
Do you have any more intell about Iesus Christi?

We would like to send 7,000 troops to aid group 1, and later on, aid to group 2 might be considered

We would like to send 7,000 troops to aid group 1, and later on, aid to group 2 might be considered

Aiding group 1 needs to be put here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=145811&highlight=

Aid to group 2 will be gratly taken!

I'm not a Fascist nation, but you're looking pretty tasty for invasion right now. :P

I'm not a Fascist nation, but you're looking pretty tasty for invasion right now. :P

We are sick of having troubles with Fascists!

We are sick of having troubles with Fascists!

Then perhaps I should put you out of your misery. :twisted:

This is getting out of hand. Just killing the brainwashed and ignorant for being taught to be fashists is not right. There has been enough poinltess mulit directional fighting lately for no cause but because.

People are dying for reason and commiting slaughter of people for being brainwashed is little above genocide. Make of that what you will, but we see it as wrong.

Any agressive action against a brother state will be considered as an attack against all of us!

Camewot, do you rember a nation called Mongus?

He said he would destory all communist nations.

Can you guess what happend? The communist nations all destroyed him.

Don't go down the same road.

I'm not a Fascist nation, but you're looking pretty tasty for invasion right now. :P

You're not? :shock:

Seriously, Camewot. You'll die, instantly, if you try anything like that. What next? Attacking Melkor Unchained because he's evil incarnate?

Unless you're looking to entertain the rest of us, go and find something useful to do.

Since the coalitionist way, is semi-fascist in its nature, we ask you to stop before we flatten you cities from orbit, or annnex parts of your nation.

While we at AWS definetly agree with your position on fascists, we implore you not to crusade in a way that kills innocent people based on their beliefs. Realize that this is fascism. You yourself are a facist if you do this.

Fascists= Bad
Genocide= worse

Think about it.

While we at AWS definetly agree with your position on fascists, we implore you not to crusade in a way that kills innocent people based on their beliefs. Realize that this is fascism. You yourself are a facist if you do this.

Fascists= Bad
Genocide= worse

Think about it.

No...

Nazis= BAD
Fascist= Depends on current government
Genocide= Killing someone named Geno
Communist= Evil

Stop this right now or the Fascist will decimate you. Trust me it won't be pretty.

Camewot: we are willing to offer you protection from Fascist nations, if in return you pledge to go to war with them for a invalid reason.

No...

Nazis= BAD
Fascist= Depends on current government
Genocide= Killing someone named Geno
Communist= Evil[/quote]



Communism is not evil, in fact, its about the most ideal form of government based on the will of the people. The people make the decisions in AWS and are represented in the best possible way. Dictatorship of the proletariat.

So if it's evil then i guess that makes us just about the most evil country in the world, Comrade.

No...

Nazis= BAD
Fascist= Depends on current government
Genocide= Killing someone named Geno
Communist= Evil



Communism is not evil, in fact, its about the most ideal form of government based on the will of the people. The people make the decisions in AWS and are represented in the best possible way. Dictatorship of the proletariat.

So if it's evil then i guess that makes us just about the most evil country in the world, Comrade.

Ok now your being a commie idiot that the capitialist want war with, but I don't wanna wipe another commie nation out again. So, Auf weidersein, komrad

How does this make us idiots? You need to explain this and your hatred of communists, we have not perpatrated any sort of crime against your nation, we are peaceful, pacifistic, nation that has no desire to start a war against anyone, and we understand that you could wipe us out, but that won't stop us from being communist, and it won't stop others, we come from a long line of those who fight for their beliefs, and you, even with your power, simply don't frighten us, cuase we will keep coming back either way.

Communism is not evil, in fact, its about the most ideal form of government based on the will of the people. The people make the decisions in AWS and are represented in the best possible way. Dictatorship of the proletariat.

So if it's evil then i guess that makes us just about the most evil country in the world, Comrade.

Yes... and that works, how?

Long live the rule of the aristocracy! Crush the proletariat! Crush the petty bourgois! Crush the bourgois!...actually, crush just about everyone, and then eliminate their willpower.

Auf weidersein, Camewot. If I were sticking around after my thread, you'd be first on my list.

I'll make sure I send a nuke your way on my last post, just to get it started. Anyone else can follow up after that.

Auf weidersein, Camewot. If I were sticking around after my thread, you'd be first on my list.

I'll make sure I send a nuke your way on my last post, just to get it started. Anyone else can follow up after that.

AWS, btw, I was just kidding up there. I don't have that kind of government any more, too boring.

Ruhr, whatever happened to a 'false sense of security?'

I never said I was gonna attack immidiaetly, I said as the nation grows more soldiers would go in Group 2 and if they are strong enough they would attack Fascists who commit crimes in theyre nation.
Alright?

We'll be blunt with our allies on this situation so that the gravity of the problem can be fully understood.

Firstly we need to note that Iuthia will not support acts of aggression towards nations recognised by yourselves or others as fascist run. While we do not agree with most "fascist" nations we cannot go against their soverign right to run the nations as they wish, we are not in the business of changing a government unless it has clearly presented a threat to Iuthia or her allies by acting against us and showing unwilling to stop. We are wholly unprovoked aggression against any nation in order to change it's governance.

We are, however willing to support our allies to clear their nation of terrorist factions but it needs to be understood that Iuthia is not obliged to defend your nation if your nation starts wars with other nations. If you act against other nations as you have described we will not be able to support you in any military efforts which were started by yourselves.

Sorry we must warn you like this, but Iuthia cannot support aggression like this.

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Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
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I suggest you read my last post :S

I didn't see it until I'd finished, but the consept is sound and we are glad that you have made some form of concession. However it remains true that Iuthia doesn't have to support your nation should a counter-attack result from your actions in other nations.

Iuthia prefers to avoid military use until all options are exhausted and then only if our nation or allies are under threat. As it stands we do no agree with wars against nations whom "commit crimes" as there is no actual international law for or against actions a government uses against it's people. We may not like what happens in another nation but it's not our business to police the world, whats so say that a nation can't justify a war with Iuthia because our people have no democracy... we are still in the top 500 happiest people in the world despite this but it's no different from declaring war with a nation over slavery. Cultures are different and Iuthia will at most condemn and embargo such nations, but we will not go in guns blazing unless they present a serious threat to ourselves or other nations.

We will honor our defence obligations and assist in many other non-military matters, we will support you as much as we can without going against our beliefs but we will reserve our right not to aid you should you act without due cause.


Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
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OOC: Should the situation be dire we will probably help regardless of your actions as we do not wish to see your nation get annexed or your people suffer... but don't rely on it. Concordia constitution states our obligation only stands if you are not the aggressor.

North Germania is a fascist nation. I wouldn't suggest you try and invade, Camewot. That would be a recipe for defeat.

Amen . The loyal followers of National Socialism are ready to back you up if these tricky communists and liberals try anything.

I may not be fascist but stop this anti-fascist crusade or me and my allies will inhalate you.

I may not be fascist but stop this anti-fascist crusade or me and my allies will inhalate you.

Quit jumping on the bandwagon, Iuthia may not be willing to support Camewot in a crusade against fascism but if you declare war on them without a damn good reason we will back them with our military might...

Our entire intention is to work this our diplomatically and I'm tired of pissant little nations jumping in and talking about how they will destroy others instead of working things out.

No offence but you are outnumbered so don't try to protect him or you may be in the cross fire. This has happened before in other RP's were the diplomatic nation is caught between cross fires and is destroyed.

We are sick of having troubles with Fascists!

Then perhaps I should put you out of your misery. :twisted:

lol i looked at your month you started and looked at your post count and almost fainted

OOC: Well, although TRUE communism (not state led) is the ideal way, and the way it SHOULD be in a perfect world, it cannot happen. Under true communism, everyone would have to basically be non-human. Robots, all looking alike. You would have to over rule the human desire to achive, the human desire to be better, and the human greed. This is impossible to achive in a world. This world is not perfect, and it cannot hold a perfect society.

Free men are not equal.
Equal men are not free.

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Although the Czar wishes that no war occurs, he also expresses his desire to throw you in a concentration camp along with the rest of the scum of the earth. If you declare war on a nation solely on the basis that they are facist, the Derscon military will be forced to defend them and crush you. Again, the Czar does not want conflict. He takes no desire to crush smaller nations for their stupid mistakes.
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OOC: I run my nation semi-facist. Although I do not belive in a "master race" and kill all that are not part of it, I do belive there are certain groups of people that are scum of the earth (not just races of people), and they are thrown in to concentration camps.

Camewot, if you want to attack a fascist nation, try taking me on. I will leave your invading soldiers dead upon my borders.

The Grand Prince of Skeelzania laughs at the Camewot threats against facism, in all its forms. We Skeelzanian's have been under Monarcho-Facism for nearly 100 years, and we have only prospered. We warn Camewot that any overt, unprovoked actions against a facist power will be responded to with force.

OCC: Like Derscon, Skeelzania's Monarcho-Facism doesn't believe in a "master race", though we do maintain that Human beings are the superior species and that all others are little better than cattle. So I guess we're "speciest" instead of "racist".

OOC: Actually, that isn't what I meant. I meant that certain ethnic groups were deemed "scum" and killed. One example would be the Nazi's main enemy the Jews and Slavs. Hitler belived in a single, master race, but these were the ones that he hated the MOST.

I do not believe in a master race, but certain races, such as Jews, for instance (no, I don't kill Jews. Jews are fine. I have friends that are Jewish), are deemed as "scum" by the Clensing Act, and are purged. THAT is what I mean.

OOC: Also, I want to crush Camewot very badly, but I have to wait for him to make a move. Damn. :cry:

No offence but you are outnumbered so don't try to protect him or you may be in the cross fire. This has happened before in other RP's were the diplomatic nation is caught between cross fires and is destroyed.

You have clearly missed my entire previous posts regarding this incident and quite frankly I'm couldn't care less as to how many nations I may face should I defend an ally, because if those nations don't have a damn good reason I will defend my ally and I assure you that Iuthia is very capable of defending itself, though I can hardly imagine any nations using my defence as a reason to declare war as it would bring many of our alliances into effect in our own defence.

However, as previously stated you seem to be blind to the fact that Iuthia is unlikely to defend our ally if they start wars with other nations. Should you or any other nation declare war on Camewot because of what they said they may do in opposed to what they have done then Iuthia will defend our ally seeing as we would see a war against our ally as unjustified until they have actually done something bad.

We are tired of little warmongering nations such as yourself whom leap on the lasted craze to threaten other nations with destruction, I personally doubt you would have even bothered had other nations not commented.

You notice how other nations await Camewot to make a mistake and actually do something wrong instead of just shouting the war cry and threatening destruction? They imply that if they act Camewot will be pacified... however they stop short of actually threatening them for just talking about it.

Try diplomacy for a change instead of thuggish threats.

I said I would invade if I have prove that the Facists kill minoritys in theyre state

Sorry I will back down.

I said I would invade if I have prove that the Facists kill minoritys in theyre state

The temptation is overwhelming...........

No offence but you are outnumbered so don't try to protect him or you may be in the cross fire. This has happened before in other RP's were the diplomatic nation is caught between cross fires and is destroyed.

You have clearly missed my entire previous posts regarding this incident and quite frankly I'm couldn't care less as to how many nations I may face should I defend an ally, because if those nations don't have a damn good reason I will defend my ally and I assure you that Iuthia is very capable of defending itself, though I can hardly imagine any nations using my defence as a reason to declare war as it would bring many of our alliances into effect in our own defence.

However, as previously stated you seem to be blind to the fact that Iuthia is unlikely to defend our ally if they start wars with other nations. Should you or any other nation declare war on Camewot because of what they said they may do in opposed to what they have done then Iuthia will defend our ally seeing as we would see a war against our ally as unjustified until they have actually done something bad.

We are tired of little warmongering nations such as yourself whom leap on the lasted craze to threaten other nations with destruction, I personally doubt you would have even bothered had other nations not commented.

You notice how other nations await Camewot to make a mistake and actually do something wrong instead of just shouting the war cry and threatening destruction? They imply that if they act Camewot will be pacified... however they stop short of actually threatening them for just talking about it.

Try diplomacy for a change instead of thuggish threats.

Yeah, what he said....

I said I would invade if I have prove that the Facists kill minoritys in theyre state

Well siad. Obvously Camewot is saying that he is against GENOCIDE, not FASCISM itself ;)

Apparently Camewot has summarily threatened my allies governments without reason aside from the government style they have chosen.

As it stands, there is no reason to harrass new players because they decide to imitate a fascist government. I hardly see *aside from the recent case* capitalists and free republics alike harrassing communist nations. It is your choice.

I'm pressuring Camewot to apologize to the following nations in a public thread, and to permanantly stand down:

Light Red Germany
Big Shiny Guns
Unlimited Powers

They have done nothing wrong to you (both as a player or as a nation) and were in no right to be threatened.

I don't think Camewot has actually gone as far as threatening new nations because of governments and they have changed their stance to reflect that they are not interested in wars against Fascist States until they commit serious offences against their own people, such a genocide... alot of nations would agree with this point of view though personally Iuthia doesn't go in for this method.

Eitherway it's nice to see that things have calmed down a little. Camewot has changed their stance and others have withdrawn their threats. I think it would be best that we try remain civil as it's in everyones interest.